The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[lkwdblds]

Can you believe this!! The two word limit post is nuts!

Can you believe this? We are the 7th highest most most read thread on ESMB, we currently have 37,283 views. The post just above us which is in 6th place is the "Two word limit thread" They were at 37,208 posts and their thread was dormant, no one had posted there for since February 9. All posts on that thread are limited to two words, such as "Hi there" or "Nice joke." Well, as we started to overtake them this morning and move into 6th place. somebody there must have put out an alert because they have had 111 posts this morning and have moved to 37,319.

Talk about a games condition. Nothing worth posting can be said in two words anyway, so what is the point in writing 37,300 such posts and then bringing the thread out of the mothballs with a flurry of posts to prevent dropping in the rankings. I thought I was the only one, except maybe Carmelo who looked at those stats but somebody over there did it as well. Since, their posts are virtually meaningless and say nothing it is easy to generate a lot of views. One person could probably make 100 posts an hour of that type but what does it prove. Quality is what counts. Just one of almost any of our posts has more meaning or relevance than all 37,319 of theirs combined. We probably have more respondents than they do and could probably write a ton of two letter posts our selves to overtake them but that would be a silly games condition and would defeat our purpose of offering a quality thread. I just posted something over on another thread which I thought was a good observation I made or sort of figured out and I am going to post it here now as my next post.
Lakey
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

THETANS AND THE TIME TRACK

Hubbard states that all beings, thetans, automatically record continuously consecutive pictures of the Physical Universe (MEST Universe). These pictures contain 57 perceptics in them and are recorded at about 24 pictures a second, similar to the speed of film type movie cameras. The recordings are not made of MEST themselves, or are they? They exist in a latent form, in chronological order and are somehow accessible by the thetan just by it directing its attention towards them and are then able to be recreated instantly by the thetan and then be revivified. The revivification process seems to give them a very small MEST component (so that they will react on a Meter).

PICTURES OF BETWEEN LIVES AND PAST LIVES
Pictures of between lives do not seems to come up much in auditing but pictures of past lives do. The pictures of past lives seem to be unavailable to nearly all people as a matter of course but do come up on chains having to do with moments of trauma. There is also often a feeling of "deja vu" where a person in a new place or doing a new experience feels that this is a repeat of some earlier experience.

A POSSIBLE HUBBARD FLAW? Hubbard suggests that we suffer whole track amnesia after living a life and dropping a body. He suggests to us that on OT VIII the reason for whole track amnesia will be a least partially revealed. This acts as a carrot on a stick for many people.

Hubbard remenines us that our pictures contain a record of 57 perceptics which are recorded into each picture. I saw no problem with this until someone on an ESMB post (I forgot who) pointed out that when a tehtan becomes disembodied at the time of body death, most of the 57 perceptics have to do with body sense channels and are no longer recorded. Typical examples are saline and adrenalin content in the blood, feeling of gravititional orientation, the entire gamut of sexual feeling, the entire gamut of body aches and pains, etc. None of these things will be recorded after body death! HUBBARD NEVER MENTIONS THIS AT ANY TIME. Instead there is a tacit assumption that the recording process in thetans is continuing on just as usual while they are in a between lives state. Introducing the awareness that there are not sense channels able to record most, if not all of the 57 perceptics sheds some new awareness as to why the recordings in a between lives area are blank. Is it really necessary for amnesia to have occured or was it that there was just nothing or very little recorded?

COROLLARY OR FALL OUT TO REDUCTION OR ELIMINATION OF 57 PERCEPTICS BEING RECORDED AFTER BODY DEATH.

A life is lived, pictures are recorded from beginning to end and then the body dies. The 57 sense channels are no longer recording. Some vestige of percetption and recording may still occur, my guess is that it does, but the 57 body sensory channels cease recording. At some future point the same thetan or group of thetan and his spiritual team mates or whatever, assumes a new body and recording of the 57 sensory channels resmes but on a reduced level at first because the body's sensory channels are not yet fully deveoloped. By 3 or 4 years of age, full sensory recordings are taking place. A person usually has different persona now in his new life rather than the people he was with previously and different ancor points such as his country, his language, his gender, etc. One key difference is that he/she is usually in a new neighborhood, with completely diffferent anchor points. There is nothing in place which would cause the memories of the past existence to kick into revivification. Those memories will revivify only if the thetan or part of his spiritual team turn their attention on them but usually the only thing that would cause that to happen is some sort of reactive experience such as an engram or a secondary. The feeling of "deja Vu" may arise when the current environment approximates conditions in the environment of a previous life; this would cause the being to put some attention on the old pictures. One does not need OT VIII to figure this out. It is just basic common sense. I think that the way Hubbard looked at it was that if the NOTS case is so extremely large, then it would be harder or nearly impossible for the being to tell which pictures from a past existence are really his and which are are from other intities but after OT VIII, this would be easy because all remaining pictures would be the being's own pictures.

Using the concept of a thetan and his spritual team mates rather than an adversarial NOTs case circumvents the necessity of having to do an OT VIII rundown to get rid of the NOTS case if it is looked at as more of a spiritual team.
Lakey

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

hmm.. Eterior with full perceptions?

 

[Leon]

Umm, just as a side note: When I ran my Int Rundown way back when I ran the time just prior to my picking up this body that I have, and the most pressing urgency that I experienced in that portion of track was that I needed a body fast so I could take a piss. I just couldn't hold on any more!

Whatever the body can do and be aware of a thetan can do and experience a hundred times better.

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Oh, for pete's sake!

Leon! LOL!

Now, now everybody...God loves the goyim, too...

Same glass beach Carmelo, I'm just singing the praises of Pismo (or Aliso, for that matter) as a nice summer gathering place... With or without Frankie and Annette...(the youngsters are thinking....who dat?)

Darn, now I have to stay off the two word post thread for awhile...

"Aw, phooey!"

Happy Chinese New Year everyone...Year of the Tiger...supposed to be a very propitious year! Gung Hay fat choy!

 

[lkwdblds]

A thetan could do that but could also not do it.

Umm, just as a side note: When I ran my Int Rundown way back when I ran the time just prior to my picking up this body that I have, and the most pressing urgency that I experienced in that portion of track was that I needed a body fast so I could take a piss. I just couldn't hold on any more!

Whatever the body can do and be aware of a thetan can do and experience a hundred times better.

A thetan could mock up and dub in sensory data on each of the idle 42 sensory channels but they could also not choose to do that. Most beings on Earth who die are lucky if they are at a tone level above 2 with a body and when they die, they drop below zero. Someone below zero is not going to have the horsepower to dub in continually simulations of body sensations on 42 sensory channels and do that just for fun with no real purpose in mind.

For a very high toned being, they could rise out the top and be up in the high reaches of the tone scale and would be capable of such feats but then, why would they do that. I guess you just gave an example, Leon, you are a pretty high toned guy and were able to mock up having to piss badly. Maybe it served the purpose of raising you necessity level so that you got a good body with good parents. Have you ended up healthy and nice looking and are your parents exceptionally good people? Just curious. Anyway you make a very good point which needs to be factored in when looking at this area.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Its okay, go back to it, we finally passed them up!

Leon! LOL!

Now, now everybody...God loves the goyim, too...

Same glass beach Carmelo, I'm just singing the praises of Pismo (or Aliso, for that matter) as a nice summer gathering place... With or without Frankie and Annette...(they youngsters are thinking....who dat?)

Darn, now I have to stay off the two word post thread for awhile...

"Aw, phooey!"

Happy Chinese New Year everyone...Year of the Tiger...supposed to be a very propitious year! Gung Hay fat choy!

How about "Oi Vey" for a Jewish posting there.
How about "Sieg Heil" for a Nazi posting.
How about "antidisestablishmentarianism suffocates' for the longest possible posting there.
How about "I do" for the shorest posting possible
How about "Nicolai Rimsky-Korsakoff for the longest name there.
Lakey

 

[Leon]

I wouldn't take the ability to reactively mock up needing a piss as any sort of evidence for anyone's tone level. Not ever.

 

[lkwdblds]

Report on our Brunch today

Brunch was held in Orange County today. A couple of our regulars cancelled out late yesterday. The turnout was not as big as we hoped but those of us who showed up sure had a lot of fun. Two new people who we did not know before showed up. Two of the male participants were in related businesses and possibly might be able to do a little networking. There was a lot of comraderie and we stayed past brunch about an extra hour talking so the waiter was finally leaving on his shift and we decided to pay and clear out. Two people came from the Marina del Rey area and suggested that we should do the next one at their place and make it a BBQ. That sounded good to all. We have not set anything yet and will let the board know when we do.
Lakey

 

[purple haze]

Brunch was held at in Orange County today. A couple of our regulars cancelled out late yesterday. The turn out was not as big as we hoped but those of us who showed up sure had a lot of fun. Two new people who we did not know before showed up. Two of the male participants were in related businesses and possibly might be able to do a little networking. There was a lot of comraderie and we stayed past brunch about an extra hour talking so the waiter was finally leaving on his shift and we decided to pay and clear out. Two people came from the Marina del Rey area and suggested that we should do the next one at their place and make it a BBQ. That sounds good to all. We have not set anything yet and will let the board know when we do.
Lakey

Lots of fun and always great to meet new people! With such a small crowd, it was very intimate and sweet. Looking forward to next month, or next week! It's so much more fun in person! Purple

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Big hugs to all the happy chatters!

 

[hbeer]

Coming West is your decision. Why not check out the opportunities in the North, South and East first and how they look. In all honesty, on the surface they offer more potential at this time. When the economy comes alive again, only then will the West be a viable alternative.

That's a good point, Lakey!

I am back from the south. Wonderful meeting, most advanced spiritual being I have met this lifetime!

Next, Copenhagen, already booked.



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[hbeer]

May I suggest that we organize a monthly coffee klatch in LA

NOT FOR BEATING UP THE Co$

BUT

for networking, creating relationships, finding OR CREATING job opportunities, some coffee shop auditing, some schmoozing, for singles - hitting on one another, for upgrading each of our standards of living.

Great idea, I wish I could participate!

BTW there is also Geir Isene's Oslo convention on the 16th of May. It is now confirmed that it will happen. I want to attend.



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[lkwdblds]

Who is this very advanced being?

That's a good point, Lakey!

I am back from the south. Wonderful meeting, most advanced spiritual being I have met this lifetime!

Next, Copenhagen, already booked.



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Heidrun - Who is this most advanced spiritual being, please tell us more? I thougt it was in Copenhagen where you were teaming with a very advanced being. Is this wrong or are there two of them? Sounds like I gave you good advice, that makes me feel good!

Lakey

P.S.Coming to Olso in May, that would be thrilling but unless business takes a sharp upturn, it is unlikely that I can attend in person. Perhaps you can bring your lap top to the meetings and I can participate via Skype? Every time I hear Norway mentioned, I think of these TV and radio commercials they ran when I was a teenager about "Sardines from Norway" I also get a picutre of large fishing boats sailing in between ice capped Norwegian fjords. As a young man, I visited Sweden and Denmark but omitted going to Norway. Well its never too late!

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Can you believe this? We are the 7th highest most most read thread on ESMB, we currently have 37,283 views. The post just above us which is in 6th place is the "Two work limit thread" They were at 37,208 posts and their thread was dormant, no one had posted there for since February 9. All posts on that thread are limited to two words, such as "Hi there" or "Nice joke." Well, as we started to overtake them this morning and move into 6th place. somebody there must have put out an alert because they have had 111 posts this morning and have moved to 37,319.

Talk about a games condition. Nothing worth posting can be said in two words anyway, so what is the point in writing 37,300 such posts and then bringing the thread out of the mothballs with a flurry of posts to prevent dropping in the rankings. I thought I was the only one, except maybe Carmelo who looked at those stats but somebody over there did it as well. Since, their posts are virtually meaningless and say nothing it is easy to generate a lot of views. One person could probably make 100 posts an hour of that type but what does it prove. Quality is what counts. Just one of almost any of our posts has more meaning or relevance than all 37,319 of theirs combined. We probably have more respondents than they do and could probably write a ton of two letter posts our selves to overtake them but that would be a silly games condition and would defeat our purpose of offering a quality thread. I just posted something over on another thread which I thought was a good observation I made or sort of figured out and I am going to post it hear now as my next post.
Lakey
Lakey

BULL PUCKY!

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Brunch was held in Orange County today. A couple of our regulars cancelled out late yesterday. The turnout was not as big as we hoped but those of us who showed up sure had a lot of fun. Two new people who we did not know before showed up. Two of the male participants were in related businesses and possibly might be able to do a little networking. There was a lot of comraderie and we stayed past brunch about an extra hour talking so the waiter was finally leaving on his shift and we decided to pay and clear out. Two people came from the Marina del Rey area and suggested that we should do the next one at their place and make it a BBQ. That sounded good to all. We have not set anything yet and will let the board know when we do.
Lakey

Can the secretary publish the minutes?

 

[lkwdblds]

The Secretary was one of those who cancelled.

Can the secretary publish the minutes?

The secretary, Sweetness and Light, was one of the ones who cancelled. Sweetness set up the whole thing but then could not make it because of some allergies acting up or some such. With Sweetness not showing and Mark not being able to make it, we barely had a quorom. Sweetness told me she did not call anyone to tell them that it was cancelled so I had to show up to avoid people coming for nothing. Purple Haze showed up as did two of the many people invited by Sweetness, one of them is an active ESMB member, Happy Girl, and the other is a friend of hers who is an ex scio but does not post here. We followed your guidelines and there was zero bashing of C of S. Happy girl and her friend were delightful to get acquainted with, they are both very interesting people. Her friend and I are in related businesses and may network, per your suggested meeting guidelines, whether there was any 2 D flirting between any of us, I will not reveal. After all a secretary's minutes must remain discrete. I'll drive out to a restaurant any day to meet with Purple Haze and two interesting ESMB members who I have never met. There is nothing like meeting ex Scios, the opening conversatiion is so interesting, comparing notes, what Orgs they were in, who they new, who they liked, who they disliked, how and why they decided to leave. Each story is fresh with its own peculiarities and I have yet to meet a boring ex Scio or hear a boring story. My one lament was that HELLUVA HOAX did not show. He was going to try and make it.

For those who want to find out more about it, well, you will just have to come to one of our future meetings, probably the next one will be a barbeque at the L.A. Marina del Rey.

Oh the lobby was full of suspicious looking people with video cameras but we four walked right by them without them filming us. After all, I am full Jewish as is one of the other 4 and of the remaining 2, one was 1/4 Jewish and only one had no Jewish blood. Our party blended in with all the Orange County Jews plus nearby Long Beach Jews who frequent this deli. Actually,there were no people in the lobby with video cameras and 3/4 of the customers are non Jewish.
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

From Mary and Frankie

This freezone convention is sponsored by the former Mary Maren, who is now not married to Artie "Schmartie" Maren, who is still "in", but married to Frankie Freedman, who is now Franklin Freeman, so Mary is Mary Freeman. There will be a test on this.

Also sponsored by Les and Anita Warren. They used to have a mission / center or something in or near Clearwater. Now they are in the middle of nowhere, Idaho, to be precise.

The last Freezone convention in the US of A was in Pasadena. It was wide open to new technology and not heavily stuck in the Standard Tech era. Somebody needs to get these guys commenting on how open or close minded they all are going to be to the other stuff that we all use.

Anybody want to comment?



2010 Annual FreeZone Convention

“Auditor Training and Standard Technology”
September 10 - 12, 2010
Deer Lake, Washington
Hosted and organized by Les & Anita Warren
and Frankie & Mary Freeman
We cordially invite all Scientologists to this grand event, held at the scenic Deer Lake Resort north of Spokane, Washington.
The topic of this year's event is "Auditor Training and Standard Tech" and will feature many guest speakers as well as Frankie and Mary Freeman, Class VIII Auditors and Case Supervisors who trained with L. Ron Hubbard. They have been delivering the Tech on both sides of the Bridge for more than 30 years.
This weekend-long event will include a casual reception with light refreshments Friday evening, convention time over the weekend. Additionally, following the convention, a two week workshop with the Freemans is being held for those who wish to stay and perfect their auditing skills.
Discount accommodations are available through www.deerlakeresort.com
The cost is $120 per person, $100 if paid before July 31st, 2010. Meals are included.
Event Details
Friday evening 9/10/10

Reception at the Warren's Life Improvement Center

Saturday 9/11/10 9:30 AM - 9:30 PM & Sunday 9/12/10 9:30 AM - 4:00 PM

Speakers to be announced.
Additionally - Beginning Monday 9/13/10

A two week long TR's and Metering Workshop to be held by the Warrens and supervised by the Freemans. Contact for additional details.
Contact information:
Anita/Les Warren [email protected] (509) 233-8219
Mary/Frankie Freeman [email protected] (214) 578-4838
For More Info on the Web: www.lifeimp.com www.deerlakeresort.com

 

[hbeer]

P.S.Coming to Olso in May, that would be thrilling but unless business takes a sharp upturn, it is unlikely that I can attend in person. Perhaps you can bring your lap top to the meetings and I can participate via Skype? Every time I hear Norway mentioned, I think of these TV and radio commercials they ran when I was a teenager about "Sardines from Norway" I also get a picutre of large fishing boats sailing in between ice capped Norwegian fjords. As a young man, I visited Sweden and Denmark but omitted going to Norway. Well its never too late!

Sorry all my laptops are old and broken

But I'll discuss with Geir what can be done - video streaming etc. It does feel like an important moment in history.



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[lkwdblds]

Any chance of telling us....

Sorry all my laptops are old and broken

But I'll discuss with Geir what can be done - video streaming etc. It does feel like an important moment in history.



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Heidrun, any chance of telling us a little bit about this incredible being whom you just visited in the South, was it. Can you not tell because of security or do you just not have the time right now. We miss your frequent postings and appreciate the small posts you are able to send to us while you are travelling.
Things are started to pick up a little in the business, my phone was ringing off the hook today. Heidrun, a good lap top can be had today for about $500.
I'd even be willing to split one with you so you could Skype from Norway.

Just thing an Aboard the Apollo - "73 lap top. Now, that would be a first!! You could attend all of our lunches and brunches which we are starting to hold and we could get to know you better, you know, pick up your emanations and aura, plus some information about you from the tone and inflection of your voice and the aura which you project into the camera. You and I already did that but Sweetness and Purple Haze, Mark and the others would love to experience that as well.

Hope you can write more soon and that Norway is a big success and you celebrate with a platter of sardines and some Norwegian beer. Prost!!
Lakey