The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But
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lkwdblds
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Of course steel looses strength as it heats up,,,,
The "steel doesn't melt at 1100 degrees crowd" is tacitly assuming that steel retains 100% strength all the way up to the actual point of melting. The claim that at 1100 degrees it has lost 50% of its strength makes total sense. I started out as an engineering student and took a strength of materials class. To be honest, I remember virtually nothing of what was taught in the class. It was too dry and boring for me. Moving in to the construction business in 1974, I was reintroduced to engineering because all plans, especially 2 story jobs have to be heavily engineered and then approved by the City Engineers. I know that concrete takes 30 days of drying time before it reaches 100% of its ultimate strength, however within about 3 days, it reaches 90% of its ultimate strength. It should be easy to look up or Google the strength of steel at various temperature levels, charts, tables and graphs are compiled and are available for the strengths of all building materials under varying conditions.
Lakey
The "steel doesn't melt at 1100 degrees crowd" is tacitly assuming that steel retains 100% strength all the way up to the actual point of melting. The claim that at 1100 degrees it has lost 50% of its strength makes total sense. I started out as an engineering student and took a strength of materials class. To be honest, I remember virtually nothing of what was taught in the class. It was too dry and boring for me. Moving in to the construction business in 1974, I was reintroduced to engineering because all plans, especially 2 story jobs have to be heavily engineered and then approved by the City Engineers. I know that concrete takes 30 days of drying time before it reaches 100% of its ultimate strength, however within about 3 days, it reaches 90% of its ultimate strength. It should be easy to look up or Google the strength of steel at various temperature levels, charts, tables and graphs are compiled and are available for the strengths of all building materials under varying conditions.
Lakey
lkwdblds
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2 week spots in an otherwise good post.
This post has some good points but there are two points which I conside extremely weak - I put both points above in bold type.
Your brush off or dissing of Laura Bush and what little you did to arrive at the conclusion you did are really "Bush League". (to use a baseball term for low class). I looked up the word sycophant andit says, "a person who tries to please some one to gain a personal advantage". That certainly does not describe in the least Laura BUsh. You say, "Its been my experience that SP's always marry wives who are sycophanitc and oblivious." What kind of thing is that to say when you are trying to persuade someone whom you are debating? WITH THAT STAEMENT AND $1.55, YOU COULD GET A CUP OF STARBUCKS COFFEE." Your statement carries no wieght or value. Maybe in my experience, I have experienced just the opposite. Who cares what either of our experiences have been. When Laura Bush married W., he had recently come off of alcohol and was the Owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team. His life was nothing special. It was way before Bush senior held office as president of vice president so marrying into that family was not a sure road to success. Laura Bush was a librarian for many years and taught school for many years. Her main loves in life are education, books,and helpting people. She has a very clean space, is very intelligent, a very good speaker, a very good Mother and is a high level being. When you just dismiss her with a casual sentence, to me it weakens your creditibility.
Your next passage I would like to criticize is just stating that no building hit the pentagon and not given any proof or analysis. The video which Carmelo posted with the interview of Mineta, a Democrat in the Bush cabinet, actually makes Bush look bad by making it appear that he must have called off the scrambled fighter plans and ordered them not to shoot down the highjacked jet. Mineta, who looks very sincere, and had no reason to lie was in a room with Cheney where the flight was being tracked as it neared the Pentagon. Mineta learned that an order had been given to Scramble fighter planes from Langley AFB and to shoot down the passenger plane if it appeared it was going to be crashed into the Pentagon. His conclusion was that since the plane hit the Pentagon building without being shot down, Bush must have called off the fighters because Cheney was right there in the room with Mineta and he did not call them off.
If the no airplane ever hit the Pentagon, where is the plane now, what happened to the crew and the passengers. Why were they calling their loved ones on cell phones before the plane crashed. I just don't get it.
Lakey
Yes, you are right, I've read too much on this subject of Scientology History and sometimes I go a little spinny.
Regarding out friendship, my statement was made tongue-in-cheek and I should have used thisfollowing those words. I think our friendship should continue.
You seem to have the Orange County Republican view of things. I think both major parties sold out a long time ago to the soulless big corporations.
I'm waiting for a viable 3rd party, which judging by the now old reaction to
that short Texan running for President, the public is more than ready.
I doubt that the candidate would live long though, since they got away with killing JFK and RFK and that gave them the confidence to go after Reagan too to try to get Bush in directly.
Back briefly to 9-11 (the subject bores me as it is too similar to the JFK thing)
The insurance money went to the building owner, a friend of Bush/Cheney.
It was Cheney's insane game, not Bush's directly.
The security chief, was a Bush, which allowed the 3 buildings to be closed long enough to rig the explosives, exactly like a building taken down for a new one to go up in its place, certainly by the same companies expert in that area.
The planes were just as much a Red Herring as Lee Oswald was, therefore being a Pilot familiar with the procedures to handle errant planes that I was warned about when I got my license, as I used to fly near the shooting practice range of the Navy base in the Chesapeake Bay when flying out to get a great Sunday dinner on the island there, I knew those planes would have had fighters on their wingtips if the procedure had not been purposely
subverted by Cheney at that exact time. I also read that the radar had been reprogramed to avoid detection of specific planes, although I don't know.
Common sense engineering ability, which I have a lot of, tells one that airplanes have never taken down a large building. The designers always take that into consideration.
Also the buildings fell down rapidly and in perfect symmetry from asymmetrical hits. Not possible.
Go read the "Architects and Engineers For 9-11 Truth, if you want expert opinion.
There is a video of Building #7 dropping from explosives at the top right of the opening page. There was nothing wrong with that building, but it was destroyed to collect the insurance. At least they removed the people first.
http://cms.ae911truth.org/.
As far as the wives you bring up, it has been my experience that SP's always marry sycophantic oblivious wives. Read the "Robotism" HCOB by LRH.
One would wonder how all of this could be kept quiet. Well they kill people still for political reasons and the press is so controlled today that nothing would get out, except on the net. There, those things probably exist.
Also people are afraid for their jobs. And of course you have group think always as a factor, of course.
If you recall back to the JFK assasination, many were afraid to speak up. Some did, but only when they were dying years later. The film of the shooting was doctored so that it wouldn't be obvious he was shot from the front taking out the entire rear of his skull as an exit bullet wound. The autopsy covered up all of this with documents destroyed or held up to
some future date above 2020 or something.
Poor Oswald was shot to cover up the truth, and every Nov. the TV dutifully tells you again that Oswald did it with a bullet
which came from the rear and reversed directions twice to wound two people, etc.
BTW, no aircraft ever hit the Pentagon. Another rigged explosion there.
The day I figured out that JFK was shot by a government conspiracy, was the day I lost my innocense.
Haven't felt safe since.
This post has some good points but there are two points which I conside extremely weak - I put both points above in bold type.
Your brush off or dissing of Laura Bush and what little you did to arrive at the conclusion you did are really "Bush League". (to use a baseball term for low class). I looked up the word sycophant andit says, "a person who tries to please some one to gain a personal advantage". That certainly does not describe in the least Laura BUsh. You say, "Its been my experience that SP's always marry wives who are sycophanitc and oblivious." What kind of thing is that to say when you are trying to persuade someone whom you are debating? WITH THAT STAEMENT AND $1.55, YOU COULD GET A CUP OF STARBUCKS COFFEE." Your statement carries no wieght or value. Maybe in my experience, I have experienced just the opposite. Who cares what either of our experiences have been. When Laura Bush married W., he had recently come off of alcohol and was the Owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team. His life was nothing special. It was way before Bush senior held office as president of vice president so marrying into that family was not a sure road to success. Laura Bush was a librarian for many years and taught school for many years. Her main loves in life are education, books,and helpting people. She has a very clean space, is very intelligent, a very good speaker, a very good Mother and is a high level being. When you just dismiss her with a casual sentence, to me it weakens your creditibility.
Your next passage I would like to criticize is just stating that no building hit the pentagon and not given any proof or analysis. The video which Carmelo posted with the interview of Mineta, a Democrat in the Bush cabinet, actually makes Bush look bad by making it appear that he must have called off the scrambled fighter plans and ordered them not to shoot down the highjacked jet. Mineta, who looks very sincere, and had no reason to lie was in a room with Cheney where the flight was being tracked as it neared the Pentagon. Mineta learned that an order had been given to Scramble fighter planes from Langley AFB and to shoot down the passenger plane if it appeared it was going to be crashed into the Pentagon. His conclusion was that since the plane hit the Pentagon building without being shot down, Bush must have called off the fighters because Cheney was right there in the room with Mineta and he did not call them off.
If the no airplane ever hit the Pentagon, where is the plane now, what happened to the crew and the passengers. Why were they calling their loved ones on cell phones before the plane crashed. I just don't get it.
Lakey
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CarmeloOrchards
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Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
Back in 1971, my girl friend had a session where she only saw black at first. after several run throughs, she realized that she was being hung. She was a woman. Mary Surratt. From that, the two of us started researching Lincoln's assassination.
It became clear that one person had much to gain if all of the assassinations of that date had been successful: Edwin Stanton, Secretary of War.
There has been a lot written about the conspiracy.
I just googled this web site. It looks decent.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USASstanton.htm
I haven't really visited this subject in decades.
Back in 1971, my girl friend had a session where she only saw black at first. after several run throughs, she realized that she was being hung. She was a woman. Mary Surratt. From that, the two of us started researching Lincoln's assassination.
It became clear that one person had much to gain if all of the assassinations of that date had been successful: Edwin Stanton, Secretary of War.
There has been a lot written about the conspiracy.
I just googled this web site. It looks decent.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USASstanton.htm
I haven't really visited this subject in decades.
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CarmeloOrchards
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This is a test of the ESMB picture capability. I will put a better picture in few minutes.
Lakey
This was only test, if an earthquake, tsunami, nuclear attack, or anonymous protest was predicted, this picture would live forever for future historians to discover.
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Johnny Rivers made it big at the Whiskey a Go Go - those were great days
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lkwdblds
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A better picture from my back yard
This is a nice shot from my back yard at the hills and mountains beyond.
Lakey
Added several hours later
Yes, I know it is wrong, I keep thinking I can fix it quickly and then either I get called away or it doesn't fix. What I have posted here is the link to my control panel picture, not the picture itelf, I put in the wrong URL. I need to practice more - you know - the number of times through equals certainity. Everytime I attempt a fix, there is a new roadblock I have to handle plus I keep being called away to do errands, etc. I will have to practice somewhere else until I get the procedure down better. I never had much aptitude for this side of the computer business. I lack conceptual understanding and just have to memorize cook book procedures so when a Cook Book step does not work for me, there are problems. It is a real pain in the butt.
After a couple more hours, I finally got one picture up. A view from my back yard. In real life, the mountains looked much bigger and you could really see the snow. Mount Baldy is out that way, about 10,000 tall. In the computer I can zoom in and see the mountains much better, but there again, I don't know if a zoomed picture can be printed without knowing far than I know.
Lakey
This is a nice shot from my back yard at the hills and mountains beyond.
Lakey
Added several hours later
Yes, I know it is wrong, I keep thinking I can fix it quickly and then either I get called away or it doesn't fix. What I have posted here is the link to my control panel picture, not the picture itelf, I put in the wrong URL. I need to practice more - you know - the number of times through equals certainity. Everytime I attempt a fix, there is a new roadblock I have to handle plus I keep being called away to do errands, etc. I will have to practice somewhere else until I get the procedure down better. I never had much aptitude for this side of the computer business. I lack conceptual understanding and just have to memorize cook book procedures so when a Cook Book step does not work for me, there are problems. It is a real pain in the butt.
After a couple more hours, I finally got one picture up. A view from my back yard. In real life, the mountains looked much bigger and you could really see the snow. Mount Baldy is out that way, about 10,000 tall. In the computer I can zoom in and see the mountains much better, but there again, I don't know if a zoomed picture can be printed without knowing far than I know.
Lakey
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afaceinthecrowd
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Someone/Something New, Part 1
One thing that El Ron’s predatory leech-host model required was periodically and consistently having “Someone and Something New”.
This is gonna take a few posts to elaborate, so here we go.
By the age of 40 El Ron had proven two things very clearly—that he was not suitable and trustworthy for command and that he could tell a story that many people would “buy” and he could get dough and goodies for that from them…one way or another.
DMSMH vaulted El Ron overnight into the big leagues as a story teller. The only problem was that during the months after publication it was surely evident to El Ron that Hisself was gonna be a “one hit wonder”. But Book One’s single most valuable accomplishment—even of more true value than the sales dollars—was nailed by Ted in his Sinek extrapolation and Rog's "take" on it hammered it home. Interesting, isn’t it, that what the Foundation was born of were the 2 1/2 percenters…in this case the innovators.
El Ron had “created” (more like stumbled across) a ready made audience to “buy” Hisself’s stories and all El Ron had to do now was to keep coming up with new ones, add on to old ones and fill in details here and there as the need arose.
Of the over 500 El Ron lecture tapes I’ve listened to 10% of the playing time, at best, is El Ron actually saying something of topical note and the rest is El Ron doing what? Telling Stories. One thing I learned from being up close and personal with El Ron is that Hisself hardly ever really “related” with anyone…El Ron just told stories.
Having said all that, let me tell yall a little story about El Ron’s story telling.
Once upon a time Face was one of a small group of El Ron’s Flag “play pals” “assisting” El Ron on one of Hisself’s hobbyhorse projects on shore. During the course of the activities there came a point where we had to wait for something to occur before we could continue and we all were “taking a break”. Anyone that’s been around Hisself knows that at those times El Ron does not “shoot the breeze” or allow anyone else to. El Ron, as always, was “Center Stage”. El Ron never asked you about you, where you’re from, what you think, how you feel, did you get any Nookie last night, etc.? El Ron, at these times, almost always told stories.
Face here was a newbie in being part of El Ron’s entourage so when Hisself began a story—which everyone else knew was coming—Baby Face got real excited and thought, “How cool…man, oh man, am I a lucky little Theta Being to get to be here and in on this.”
And so, with unfiltered Kool in hand and a nubile pubescent messenger holding a personalized, portable silver ashtray, El Ron El Rey began the story; “I remember this old bird I once knew in New York. He was a Pathologist and man, what he could tell you about a dead meat body was just fantastic!” And so, for the next 15 minutes or so, as members of the entourage cooed and ooed, El Ron El Rey proceeded to tell in almost exactly the same words, tone and pacing, as if we’d never heard it before, a story that every person that has ever listened to the Study Tapes has heard. After the days work was done Face commented to one of his fellow entouragists, “That was kinda cool, hearing that story 'live'". “Yeah, that’s one of his favorites,” replied the Vet. “That’s a little spooky,” Face thought to himself, for the first time of many times to come.
I think that if someone took the time to do a “lay over” analysis of the Sinek “Tech” with Ted's and Rog's interpretive treatments and the evolution of the El Ron “Tech” it would be a very interesting graphic. Functionally, what Ted and Rog have already delineated says volumes.
More Stories about El Ron Stories later…
Face
One thing that El Ron’s predatory leech-host model required was periodically and consistently having “Someone and Something New”.
This is gonna take a few posts to elaborate, so here we go.
By the age of 40 El Ron had proven two things very clearly—that he was not suitable and trustworthy for command and that he could tell a story that many people would “buy” and he could get dough and goodies for that from them…one way or another.
DMSMH vaulted El Ron overnight into the big leagues as a story teller. The only problem was that during the months after publication it was surely evident to El Ron that Hisself was gonna be a “one hit wonder”. But Book One’s single most valuable accomplishment—even of more true value than the sales dollars—was nailed by Ted in his Sinek extrapolation and Rog's "take" on it hammered it home. Interesting, isn’t it, that what the Foundation was born of were the 2 1/2 percenters…in this case the innovators.
El Ron had “created” (more like stumbled across) a ready made audience to “buy” Hisself’s stories and all El Ron had to do now was to keep coming up with new ones, add on to old ones and fill in details here and there as the need arose.
Of the over 500 El Ron lecture tapes I’ve listened to 10% of the playing time, at best, is El Ron actually saying something of topical note and the rest is El Ron doing what? Telling Stories. One thing I learned from being up close and personal with El Ron is that Hisself hardly ever really “related” with anyone…El Ron just told stories.
Having said all that, let me tell yall a little story about El Ron’s story telling.
Once upon a time Face was one of a small group of El Ron’s Flag “play pals” “assisting” El Ron on one of Hisself’s hobbyhorse projects on shore. During the course of the activities there came a point where we had to wait for something to occur before we could continue and we all were “taking a break”. Anyone that’s been around Hisself knows that at those times El Ron does not “shoot the breeze” or allow anyone else to. El Ron, as always, was “Center Stage”. El Ron never asked you about you, where you’re from, what you think, how you feel, did you get any Nookie last night, etc.? El Ron, at these times, almost always told stories.
Face here was a newbie in being part of El Ron’s entourage so when Hisself began a story—which everyone else knew was coming—Baby Face got real excited and thought, “How cool…man, oh man, am I a lucky little Theta Being to get to be here and in on this.”
And so, with unfiltered Kool in hand and a nubile pubescent messenger holding a personalized, portable silver ashtray, El Ron El Rey began the story; “I remember this old bird I once knew in New York. He was a Pathologist and man, what he could tell you about a dead meat body was just fantastic!” And so, for the next 15 minutes or so, as members of the entourage cooed and ooed, El Ron El Rey proceeded to tell in almost exactly the same words, tone and pacing, as if we’d never heard it before, a story that every person that has ever listened to the Study Tapes has heard. After the days work was done Face commented to one of his fellow entouragists, “That was kinda cool, hearing that story 'live'". “Yeah, that’s one of his favorites,” replied the Vet. “That’s a little spooky,” Face thought to himself, for the first time of many times to come.
I think that if someone took the time to do a “lay over” analysis of the Sinek “Tech” with Ted's and Rog's interpretive treatments and the evolution of the El Ron “Tech” it would be a very interesting graphic. Functionally, what Ted and Rog have already delineated says volumes.
More Stories about El Ron Stories later…
Face
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afaceinthecrowd
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Thanks, Face
With any luck, we might just blow a Zorch or two by getting all this brilliance out into people's hands.
Rog
Roger, Roger...Drover, Over.
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CarmeloOrchards
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I think I am reading new "look"s to this topic of Scientology, that I haven't heard or read before. My favorite kind of story telling - where everybody adds to the pot.
Now if we only had some home made wine, some cheese, some crackers, and a salty breeze blowing across our little group of clam diggers.
Now if we only had some home made wine, some cheese, some crackers, and a salty breeze blowing across our little group of clam diggers.
CarmeloOrchards
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you need to look and see that you posted what you think you posted.
afaceinthecrowd
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Yeah....
Yeah...that sounds real good, Carmelo. Maybe if we're real nice to Rog he'll bring along some of his Great Danes.
Yeah...that sounds real good, Carmelo. Maybe if we're real nice to Rog he'll bring along some of his Great Danes.
lkwdblds
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Incredible! Keep the stories coming
What a brilliant team we have corralled here Face to Ted to Roger to Ted to Roger to Face. GUYS, THERE IS SO MUCH TRUTH IN YOUR VARIOUS POSTS AND STORIES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, YOU MAY "AS-IS" ESMB AND PUT EMMA OUT OF A JOB!! All of the ESMB readers will walk away, not having anything else to conjecture or argue about and we will all be looking for a new game! We can't let that happen now, or can we?
Lakey
One thing that El Ron’s predatory leech-host model required was periodically and consistently having “Someone and Something New”.
This is gonna take a few posts to elaborate, so here we go.
By the age of 40 El Ron had proven two things very clearly—that he was not suitable and trustworthy for command and that he could tell a story that many people would “buy” and he could get dough and goodies for that from them…one way or another.
DMSMH vaulted El Ron overnight into the big leagues as a story teller. The only problem was that during the months after publication it was surely evident to El Ron that Hisself was gonna be a “one hit wonder”. But Book One’s single most valuable accomplishment—even of more true value than the sales dollars—was nailed by Ted in his Sinek extrapolation. Interesting, isn’t it, that what the Foundation was born of were the 2 1/2 percenters…in this case the innovators.
El Ron had “created” (more like stumbled across) a ready made audience to “buy” Hisself’s stories and all El Ron had to do now was to keep coming up with new ones, add on to old ones and fill in details here and there as the need arose.
Of the over 500 El Ron lecture tapes I’ve listened to 10% of the playing time, at best, is El Ron actually saying something of topical note and the rest is El Ron doing what? Telling Stories. One thing I learned from being up close and personal with El Ron is that Hisself hardly ever really “related” with anyone…El Ron just told stories.
Having said all that, let me tell yall a little story about El Ron’s story telling.
Once upon a time Face was one of a small group of El Ron’s Flag “play pals” “assisting” El Ron on one of Hisself’s hobbyhorse projects on shore. During the course of the activities there came a point where we had to wait for something to occur before we could continue and we all were “taking a break”. Anyone that’s been around Hisself knows that at those times El Ron does not “shoot the breeze” or allow anyone else to. El Ron, as always, was “Center Stage”. El Ron never asked you about you, where you’re from, what you think, how you feel, did you get any Nookie last night, etc.? El Ron, at these times, almost always told stories.
Face here was a newbie in being part of El Ron’s entourage so when Hisself began a story—which everyone else knew was coming—Baby Face got real excited and thought, “How cool…man, oh man, am I a lucky little Theta Being to get to be here and in on this.”
And so, with unfiltered Kool in hand and a nubile pubescent messenger holding a personalized, portable silver ashtray, El Ron El Rey began the story. “I remember this old bird I once knew in New York. He was a Pathologist and man, what he could tell you about a dead meat body was just fantastic!” And so, for the next 15 minutes or so, as members of the entourage cooed and ooed, El Ron proceeded to tell in almost exactly the same words, tone and pacing, as if we’d never heard it before, a storey that every person that has ever listened to the Study Tapes has heard. After the days work was done Face commented to one of his fellow entouragists, “That was kinda cool, hearing that story “live’. “Yeah, that’s one of his favorites,” replied the Vet. “That’s a little spooky,” Face thought to himself, for the first time of many times to come.
I think that if someone took the time to do a “lay over” analysis of the Sinek “Tech” with Ted's and Rog's interpretive treatments and the evolution of the El Ron “Tech” it would be a very interesting graphic. Functionally, what Ted and Rog have already delineated says volumes.
More Stories about El Ron Stories later…
Face
What a brilliant team we have corralled here Face to Ted to Roger to Ted to Roger to Face. GUYS, THERE IS SO MUCH TRUTH IN YOUR VARIOUS POSTS AND STORIES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, YOU MAY "AS-IS" ESMB AND PUT EMMA OUT OF A JOB!! All of the ESMB readers will walk away, not having anything else to conjecture or argue about and we will all be looking for a new game! We can't let that happen now, or can we?
Lakey
afaceinthecrowd
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Blaming Others
Nah...Lakey. If that happens it'll all be your fault...you're the one that put the pot on the stove and keeps stirrin' it. We're just fillin' it with our garbage.
Face
Nah...Lakey. If that happens it'll all be your fault...you're the one that put the pot on the stove and keeps stirrin' it. We're just fillin' it with our garbage.
Face
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lkwdblds
Crusader
A voice from on high and a high tone piece of music.
I heard this on the radio yesterday. It is one of my favoritie pieces of music by Mozart. There are several small blips in the recording but they do not ruin the performance. There are other performances on youtube without the blips but there is no live performance going on plus I just love the diva, Cecilia Bartoli of Italy. Mozart wrote this in Salzburg at age 24 and it was first performed there for his patron, the archbishop, for a Vespers service.
People who do not like classical music very much, such as my wife, liked this very much. It can be used sort of as relaxation music if you don't lke clasical - you know, if you had a hard day at work or someone cut you off in traffic or gave you the finger, this should put you back together again.
This is pure music just for the sake of music plus for Catholics, it is meant to honor God. The composer knew music backwards and forwards, upside down and inside out. I believe he only had one equal in this regard and that was the great J.S. Bach. Others may have excelled more in melody or rhythm or some specific facet of music but in just compositional knowledge alone, I think Mozart and J.S. Bach had no equals.
Aethestics is at tone 8.0 but I think this music is much higher in tone that just aesthetics. I don't know the tone where its at. Its not games or action, maybe there is a spirit of play. I don't know how Mozart was able to achieve tone levels of this elevation. In life, he was a sort of sex crazed, jokester type of guy. His personal life and his music were totally detached.
Okay Carmelo, if you want to do a Mad Magazine overlay of this article using rock musicians, I would be honored. You have more than earned the right by helping me so much.
Lakey
P.S. - I believe I was there at the opening performance in Salzburg in 1780 in the Dom Kirche (Domed Cathedral, still standing there). I was a 16 year old
lad by the name of Franz Xavier Gerl, or so I believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzVvC6NXXBA
If you'd like to hear it without sound distortions, there are two other versions on youtube with perfect sound, Emma Kirkby's and Lucia Popp's.
I heard this on the radio yesterday. It is one of my favoritie pieces of music by Mozart. There are several small blips in the recording but they do not ruin the performance. There are other performances on youtube without the blips but there is no live performance going on plus I just love the diva, Cecilia Bartoli of Italy. Mozart wrote this in Salzburg at age 24 and it was first performed there for his patron, the archbishop, for a Vespers service.
People who do not like classical music very much, such as my wife, liked this very much. It can be used sort of as relaxation music if you don't lke clasical - you know, if you had a hard day at work or someone cut you off in traffic or gave you the finger, this should put you back together again.
This is pure music just for the sake of music plus for Catholics, it is meant to honor God. The composer knew music backwards and forwards, upside down and inside out. I believe he only had one equal in this regard and that was the great J.S. Bach. Others may have excelled more in melody or rhythm or some specific facet of music but in just compositional knowledge alone, I think Mozart and J.S. Bach had no equals.
Aethestics is at tone 8.0 but I think this music is much higher in tone that just aesthetics. I don't know the tone where its at. Its not games or action, maybe there is a spirit of play. I don't know how Mozart was able to achieve tone levels of this elevation. In life, he was a sort of sex crazed, jokester type of guy. His personal life and his music were totally detached.
Okay Carmelo, if you want to do a Mad Magazine overlay of this article using rock musicians, I would be honored. You have more than earned the right by helping me so much.
Lakey
P.S. - I believe I was there at the opening performance in Salzburg in 1780 in the Dom Kirche (Domed Cathedral, still standing there). I was a 16 year old
lad by the name of Franz Xavier Gerl, or so I believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzVvC6NXXBA
If you'd like to hear it without sound distortions, there are two other versions on youtube with perfect sound, Emma Kirkby's and Lucia Popp's.
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I know, I put in the URL to link to the place where I set my picture in my control panel instead of the URL to the picture itself.
As I said above, I seem to have a mental block against being good at this type of tech. My only way to learn this is to copy it down in cook book form and execute each step cook book style since I really do not have full conceptual understanding of what is taking place. Usually, after making every mistake in the books and then some, I finally get it memorized and then do okay.
CARMELO GOES BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY!! Carmelo, heard my plea for help in this area and PMed me full instructions of how to post pictures and videos over a month ago. His instructions were for an Apple computer and did not work for me. I did not want to trouble him further so wrote something on one of Emma's threads asking her if she had posted rules anywhere. Carmelo read this and called me last night and tried to walk me through it but time was short, he had a session to give, and some problems were arising. He called the next morning and walked me through the whole process. I thought I had it down cold but I still am having trouble. I took notes and I think I can unravel the problem myself. If I can, then I will learn it better than if I get more help right away so please, let me try on my own, if I can't get it then I will send another S.O.S.
Also, thanks to Zinj. He sent me full written directions to do these operations as well. What a nice gesture and it is really appreciated. In fact, I am going to print out Zinj's notes and use them to help clear up my M/U's. We have some great people here who go out of their way to help a fellow ESMB member. It is such a blessing (for want of a better term) to encounter such fantastic people who exchange in abundance with others. On recent cycles, I want to thank Face, Roger, Ted, Carmelo and Zinj. Now there is a quintet of all stars!
Lakey
I know, I put in the URL to link to the place where I set my picture in my control panel instead of the URL to the picture itself.
As I said above, I seem to have a mental block against being good at this type of tech. My only way to learn this is to copy it down in cook book form and execute each step cook book style since I really do not have full conceptual understanding of what is taking place. Usually, after making every mistake in the books and then some, I finally get it memorized and then do okay.
CARMELO GOES BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY!! Carmelo, heard my plea for help in this area and PMed me full instructions of how to post pictures and videos over a month ago. His instructions were for an Apple computer and did not work for me. I did not want to trouble him further so wrote something on one of Emma's threads asking her if she had posted rules anywhere. Carmelo read this and called me last night and tried to walk me through it but time was short, he had a session to give, and some problems were arising. He called the next morning and walked me through the whole process. I thought I had it down cold but I still am having trouble. I took notes and I think I can unravel the problem myself. If I can, then I will learn it better than if I get more help right away so please, let me try on my own, if I can't get it then I will send another S.O.S.
Also, thanks to Zinj. He sent me full written directions to do these operations as well. What a nice gesture and it is really appreciated. In fact, I am going to print out Zinj's notes and use them to help clear up my M/U's. We have some great people here who go out of their way to help a fellow ESMB member. It is such a blessing (for want of a better term) to encounter such fantastic people who exchange in abundance with others. On recent cycles, I want to thank Face, Roger, Ted, Carmelo and Zinj. Now there is a quintet of all stars!
Lakey
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