The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[Ted]

LOL Ted, yes, ARC is a beautiful thing!

Do you think Social Security has been infiltrated by an OSA operative?
I've had my own totally wacky problems with them recently...probably just a system on overload... Sigh!

It occurred to me.

But this is the government, so who knows?

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Although, on occasion some discourteous or overbearing asshole will tick me off to the point where I want to hunt them down to remove them from the gene pool.

You don't think I might need some more good auditing, do you?

No, just a high-power rifle with scope. PM me for a list of addresses.


Mark A. Baker

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Hmmmm, the above got me thinking.

At the risk of being facetious, the above got me looking at what is or might be the right answer/expression.

It came to me that the best answer is: The way out is throughout.

The reason I think that works is that the notion or practice of being aware of the whole of self, throughout self, and the doing so without any limiter or fixation of "direction" of view and by doing so on a permeating omni-awareness basis, would likely give one a perception of the all that would be needed and have you able to know the true infinite you.

Hmmmm, I think I'll have a brandy on that!



Rog

I like this, Rog...I really like this.

“In”, so to speak, is directional a la “Space”. “Throughout” is also directional however, as you so elegantly term it, connotes “Omni-awareness”…that’s ‘bout as gooder gets when good gets to gettin’ for now, I suppose.

For me, the “feeling” or “sense” experience, if you will, that Ted, Jung, Smith, et al are trying to describe is like the “essence” that Ekhart Tolle is trying to describe. I sure as hell can’t describe “It” accurately…but the concept of “It” is very real to me. The “All of No Thing; The Nothing of All” is a stab at “It”. I’m not “there” wherever, whatever “there” is, that is for sure, but “instinctively”, for some reason—as blind as I am—I can’t stop going “forward” towards “there”…sometimes it’s kinda like Mary Chapin Carpenter’s lyric from her song “Jubilee”:

And I can tell by the way that you’re standing
With your eyes filling with tears
That it’s habit alone keeps you turning for home
Even though your home is right here

Where the people who love you are gathered
Under the wise wishing tree
May we all be considered then straight on delivered
Down to the Jubilee

Damn Rog…you’re sippin' brandy and all I gots is my rot-gut sour mash…Hell, after the first jigger or three I can’t tell the difference anyway. Cheers, Mate!

Face

PS: I did have a Pimm's Cup once...so I'm not completely without class.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Christianity does not fit well with your statements above. My understanding is that the crux of christianity is that you give up your "id", "self determinism", "spiritual beingness" or whatever you want to call it - you give it up to the will of God, through the realization that Christ himself, personally "took it on the chin" for all of us not only in our "shared universe" but most importantly in our "own universes".

This is one of the most powerful concepts that Anyone, Anywhere has ever come up with and is at the root of the absolutely wonderful world we live in now where we now have the time and space to find and erradicate inequities and other outpoints in our lives.

It's a load of tosh invented by Paul of Tarsus for the benefit of gentiles.

For 2000 years its done far more damage than good.


Mark A. Baker

 

[RogerB]

I like this, Rog...I really like this.

Snipped . . .

Damn Rog…you’re sippin' brandy and all I gots is my rot-gut sour mash…Hell, after the first jigger or three I can’t tell the difference anyway. Cheers, Mate!

Face

I'm an Armagnac man myself Good ones are way more elegant than Cognac which to me are a little too austere

Now to the cooking, and the dinner wine. Tonight it looks like a very good Californian Zin.

R

 

[Mark A. Baker]

?? Who wrote first about Methuselah, Heinlan or Hubbard?

Some unknown jewish scribe.


Mark A. Baker

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

I'm an Armagnac man myself Good ones are way more elegant than Cognac which to me are a little too austere

Now to the cooking, and the dinner wine. Tonight it looks like a very good Californian Zin.

R

A late harvest old vines Zin is, as we say in my neck of the woods, prettly f'n good hooch.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

I like this, Rog...I really like this.

“In”, so to speak, is directional a la “Space”. “Throughout” is also directional however, as you so elegantly term it, connotes “Omni-awareness”…that’s ‘bout as gooder gets when good gets to gettin’ for now, I suppose.

For me, the “feeling” or “sense” experience, if you will, that Ted, Jung, Smith, et al are trying to describe is like the “essence” that Ekhart Tolle is trying to describe. I sure as hell can’t describe “It” accurately…but the concept of “It” is very real to me. The “All of No Thing; The Nothing of All” is a stab at “It”. I’m not “there” wherever, whatever “there” is, that is for sure, but “instinctively”, for some reason—as blind as I am—I can’t stop going “forward” towards “there”…sometimes it’s kinda like Mary Chapin Carpenter’s lyric from her song “Jubilee”:

And I can tell by the way that you’re standing
With your eyes filling with tears
That it’s habit alone keeps you turning for home
Even though your home is right here

Where the people who love you are gathered
Under the wise wishing tree
May we all be considered then straight on delivered
Down to the Jubilee

Damn Rog…you’re sippin' brandy and all I gots is my rot-gut sour mash…Hell, after the first jigger or three I can’t tell the difference anyway. Cheers, Mate!

Face

PS: I did have a Pimm's Cup once...so I'm not completely without class.

Face, have you ever read any of Rumi's poetry? If not, you might want to find some. I think you'ld enjoy it very much.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Ted]

It's a load of tosh invented by Paul of Tarsus for the benefit of gentiles.

For 2000 years its done far more damage than good.


Mark A. Baker

It is difficult enough to get a few people together to agree on what happened yesterday. I have no direct perception of 2000 years ago so I have no opinion except for an evaluation of what people talk about today.

Not trying to shove it down anyone's throat, I still like my understanding best.

History, interesting stuff.

 

[FoTi]

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A comment on Uncle Remus and the Disney Feature Movie, "Song of the South" which came out in 1948 when I was 8 and I saw it two or three times in 1948 alone.

Sure Uncle Remus talked with an Ebonics accent but so what, so the fucking what? Uncle Remus was BY FAR the wisest man in the movie and the highest toned.

Uncle Remus was at "Spirit of Play" the way he conducted his life. Being a black man in the old South he was denied formal schooling but his wisdom put to shame any of the white people in the movie. The wealthy family who owned the plantation which the movie was filmed on were constantly awash in problems with interpersonal relationships between the parents and their children and the husband and wife between themselves.

On the sly, out of sight of others, the husband and then the wife would seek out Uncle Remus and in private meetings to which no one was privy, they would ask this great man his opinion of how to solve their problems and Uncle Remus spoke from his heart with astonishing clarity and wisdom and told them common sense solutions which changed their lives. To unusual problems of theirs, he applied the usual, common sense and the wisdom of folklore and the land.

Their children could not relate to their parents or their white nannies and tutors and when they were on the verge of tears they would run out and find Uncle Remus and he would console them as no other person on Earth could.

I was always color blind when it came to race but this movie had a profound effect on me. I saw the goodness and decency and the wisdom and common sense of Uncle Remus and without knowing it, I decided that I wanted to be like him. He was my role model and I could not have chosen a better one. Lakey is Uncle Remus revisiited! Damn it Johnny, pass me that friggin box of Kleenex again, I love Uncle Remus, I have always tried to be like him and these clowns say that is a racist movie.

Then, several years later, these fools, mainly inspired by the NAACP and other such groups conducted a campaign stating that Walt Disney's Uncle Remus tales were racist and had to be removed from circulation. WHAT A TERRIBLE DESECRATION OF MY ROLE MODEL! WHAT POMPOUS OVERBEARING UNINFORMED PEOPLE WERE ON THE PANEL WHICH STOPPED CIRCULATION OF UNCLE REMUS' CHARACTER BECAUSE HE SPOKE A BIT IN EBONICS?

Here below, is what was pulled out of circulation for being racist. I think pulling that away from all children, especially white children may be worse than the things which Hubbard did!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47ak4vjiNzw

Lakey

Lakey, what's racist about that clip? I don't see anything racist.

 

[Ted]

Lakey, what's racist about that clip? I don't see anything racist.

I saw that when I was a kid. I thought he was happier than any of the old white people I knew. That's racist, right?

 

[FoTi]

I saw that when I was a kid. I thought he was happier than any of the old white people I knew. That's racist, right?

I thought he was too. I still don't see how that's racist.

This reminds me when I was in high school, we had a maid who stayed at our house 3 days a week and at the neighbors house 3 days a week and then went home to her own house in Santa Monica on Sundays. She was the neatest lady....she was like Uncle Remus always cheerful and had such a positive outlook on life and was very religious. Actually she reminded me of Aunt Gemima in the movies. I used to go to her room in the evenings and talk with her. She was my buddy.

I remember she had a wish board where she put up pictures of things she was wishing for....she said....that's the way you get things. She had a car on the board.....she wanted a car so she could drive to work instead of taking the bus. I thought her wishboard idea was cute.

She was very supportive of me and much more motherly toward me than my own mother. Eventually my mother didn't like it that she was so supportive of me and so she fired her. I thought my mother was mean.

But, I always remembered this lady ( her name was Arlene) with fond feelings. She was poor as a church mouse, but so down to earth and loving and caring. My parents had money, but she was very rich in heart and spirit. There was a big difference between her spiritual attitude toward life and my parents who were hardcore materialists. I used to think it was very unfair that a person as nice as she was, was stuck in a servile position with no way out of it at her age....she was probably around 60 at that time. She was a beautiful person.

 

[lkwdblds]

What's racist - Beat's me, maybe Remus's accent????

Lakey, what's racist about that clip? I don't see anything racist.

That was my point FoTi, there is nothing racist in the character. I beleive that what the NAACP might have perceived was that Uncle Remus's speech had an Ebonics accent, now accepted but in the 1940's it signified a lack of schooling and education. Also, it tended to portray blacks and whites as two divided groups. The whites were more educated, wore nicer clotes, though Uncle Remus was properly attired, spoke better and ran things and the blacks were subservient to the whites and did their biding.

Anyone watching the video could see that Uncle Remus was very wise, despite his lack of schooling and he knew life better than any white person in the movie. Apparently the NAACP did not care about a person's heart, his intelligence or his character, they wanted Blacks to be portrayed as equal to Whites as far as education and refinement. The strange thing about this period was that the Blacks were potentially equally refined but were hindered from realizing their potential due to the laws of the White society they were born into. If the Blacks could not be shown as socially equal, the NAACP did not want them shown at all.

The fact that Uncle Remus was wiser, and better adjusted and happier than any White was missed on the Black Leadership. Even the fact that the Whites, both adults and kids sought out Uncle Remus's advice in private did not sway the NAACP. They wanted to be portrayed as culturally equal or not be portrayed at all. IN THIS DECISION OF THEIRS, I BELIEVE THEY WERE VERY SHORT SIGHTED. THE SUPERIOR CHARACTER AND SUPERIOR WISDOM OF THE BLACK MAN AS COMPARED TO THE WHITE PEOPLE IN THIS MOVIE WAS OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN AND YET THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE SHOWN BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ON AN EQUAL FOOTING WITH THE WHITES IN SO FAR AS BEING ACCEPTED INTO THEIR SOCIAL CLASS. Had more movies of this type been made and allowed to be shown, I think integration and equal rights might have come sooner and with less violence.

I speak from experience, I was a happy, intelligent 8 year old boy of white and Jewish heritage and I saw right away that Uncle Remus was the smartest man by far in the entire movie. He was at one with life, he knew life, he spoke only truths and was always there to lend a helping hand. In the deepest crises which were faced in the movie, he was a rock of sanity and help to all people, Balcks and Whites whom he came into contact with. I saw this to such a great extent that I wanted to be just like him. Apparently Ethics Particle felt the same way. To label this movie racist and pull it from being marketed is such a short sighted and stupid act that it defies description.
Lakey

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

I thought he was too. I still don't see how that's racist.

This reminds me when I was in high school, we had a maid who stayed at our house 3 days a week and at the neighbors house 3 days a week and then went home to her own house in Santa Monica on Sundays. She was the neatest lady....she was like Uncle Remus always cheerful and had such a positive outlook on life and was very religious. Actually she reminded me of Aunt Gemima in the movies. I used to go to her room in the evenings and talk with her. She was my buddy.

I remember she had a wish board where she put up pictures of things she was wishing for....she said....that's the way you get things. She had a car on the board.....she wanted a car so she could drive to work instead of taking the bus. I thought her wishboard idea was cute.

She was very supportive of me and much more motherly toward me than my own mother. Eventually my mother didn't like it that she was so supportive of me and so she fired her. I thought my mother was mean.

But, I always remembered this lady ( her name was Arlene) with fond feelings. She was poor as a church mouse, but so down to earth and loving and caring. My parents had money, but she was very rich in heart and spirit. There was a big difference between her spiritual attitude toward life and my parents who were hardcore materialists. I used to think it was very unfair that a person as nice as she was, was stuck in a servile position with no way out of it at her age....she was probably around 60 at that time. She was a beautiful person.

FoTi,

This is a beautiful story…well told…a timeless lesson.

Thank You...Thank You So Much.

Face

 

[Ted]

FoTi,

This is a beautiful story…well told…a timeless lesson.

Thank You...Thank You So Much.

Face

Yes, beautiful.

 

[Ted]

Stones In The Road

A couple of posts back Facey mentioned MCC.

This song is as applicable to the '50s as well as the '60s which MCC referenced. I love the imagery. I love the tune. I love the pace. I love the instrumentation.

I feast on this song every time I play it. Several different versions out there, each is wonderful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztCldUuFum8&feature=related

 

[The Magic Thetan]

The WonderWorld There Paark

I want to hear more about the theme park-amusement park. Just a thought to share...several of the posters on ESMB understand well how the energy of money works and flows through life You may just connect up with someone here who can be very useful to you on finding investors for funding said venture...

The WonderWorld theme park is billed as a living invitation to make life wonderful, coupled to all the know-how to pull it off.

It entertains guests into a better life.

In my first Chronicle, there is a section devoted to the question of how we can expand the awareness of The New World Order people to the point where they fully support creating a wonderful life for everyone based on their discovery that it is their best interest to do so. You may enjoy re-reading that section.

I was a Disney Imagineer who was worked to insure that the Walt Disney World EPCOT project opened up on time. The WonderWorld theme park is my big dream. It is my way of contribution to the transformation of the planet into everything we wish it to be,

The theme park, and the twenty seven feature films that proceed its opening, entertain people into that kind of awareness.

The full story is available if you like by going to my home page, hiting the book icon on the home page, and ordering my book entitled "An Invitation to WonderWorld".

Thanks for asking.

Love John

 

[The Magic Thetan]

To Mr. Uncle Remus Lakey

John - Beautiful post, beautifully stated, an economy of words such that every word counted. Part of your narrarative reminded me of the opening of the movie Elmer Gantry where Burt Lancaster, kicked out of the last town he was in was travelling on the train tracks in open fields in the South and he he took refuge in a Black Church where he heard Gospel was being sung and there was a preacher much as the one you described. With the Magic technology of the internet, your words above are brought to life in the video below!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMXR2wBcLIM

A comment on Uncle Remus and the Disney Feature Movie, "Song of the South" which came out in 1948 when I was 8 and I saw it two or three times in 1948 alone.

Sure Uncle Remus talked with an Ebonics accent but so what, so the fucking what? Uncle Remus was BY FAR the wisest man in the movie and the highest toned.

Uncle Remus was at "Spirit of Play" the way he conducted his life. Being a black man in the old South he was denied formal schooling but his wisdom put to shame any of the white people in the movie. The wealthy family who owned the plantation which the movie was filmed on were constantly awash in problems with interpersonal relationships between the parents and their children and the husband and wife between themselves.

On the sly, out of sight of others, the husband and then the wife would seek out Uncle Remus and in private meetings to which no one was privy, they would ask this great man his opinion of how to solve their problems and Uncle Remus spoke from his heart with astonishing clarity and wisdom and told them common sense solutions which changed their lives. To unusual problems of theirs, he applied the usual, common sense and the wisdom of folklore and the land.

Their children could not relate to their parents or their white nannies and tutors and when they were on the verge of tears they would run out and find Uncle Remus and he would console them as no other person on Earth could.

I was always color blind when it came to race but this movie had a profound effect on me. I saw the goodness and decency and the wisdom and common sense of Uncle Remus and without knowing it, I decided that I wanted to be like him. He was my role model and I could not have chosen a better one. Lakey is Uncle Remus revisiited! Damn it Johnny, pass me that friggin box of Kleenex again, I love Uncle Remus, I have always tried to be like him and these clowns say that is a racist movie.

Then, several years later, these fools, mainly inspired by the NAACP and other such groups conducted a campaign stating that Walt Disney's Uncle Remus tales were racist and had to be removed from circulation. WHAT A TERRIBLE DESECRATION OF MY ROLE MODEL! WHAT POMPOUS OVERBEARING UNINFORMED PEOPLE WERE ON THE PANEL WHICH STOPPED CIRCULATION OF UNCLE REMUS' CHARACTER BECAUSE HE SPOKE A BIT IN EBONICS?

Here below, is what was pulled out of circulation for being racist. I think pulling that away from all children, especially white children may be worse than the things which Hubbard did!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47ak4vjiNzw

Lakey

God what a beautiful being you are. It's an honor to know you,
Mr Uncle Remus Lakey

 

[The Magic Thetan]

I've been off ESMB for about a week and began yesterday to catch up. Your OP was among the first I read and left me eager for more. Perhaps you can imagine my dismay when, subsequently, I saw you discouraged by the initial response and contemplating withdrawal. I was heartened to see the second (partial) episode and then this supplemental post and I venture now to hope you will persevere.

By now you have noticed that many are as eager as I to hear, "The rest of the story," and too, there are those who'd rather you didn't post it at all. Some would like to see it but in much smaller increments; others would rather get it all at once.

I fall into the "All at once" bunch and following a hint that it was all available on your 'wonder' website, went there but failed to find it.

It seems to me that your most recent post could well serve as a 'preface' on ESMB that would 'position' the story well enough to reduce the flack from those who might otherwise feel obliged to protest.

Given your comments regarding the time it takes to respond to posts directed toward you, I would suggest simply posting the whole story at once, including a note that you will respond to all 'polite' comments in the order received but that responses may get backlogged. This would almost certainly reduce the total number of comments and at least reduce the ones which would be answered 'later' in the story itself. (Less DEV-T )

Another possibility, which would further reduce comments, is to -- just put the story up on some web page and throw us the link. That would seem to satisfy (nearly) all parties while also ending cycle on your initial postulate.

Please do something -- soon.

I've been 'inactive' in Scientology about as long as you have. My initial attention was drawn by reading DMSMH; but I became extremely interested after reading, "COHA," "Scientology 8-8008," "The Phoenix Lectures" and such. O.T. was the big lure.

And while it's now pretty clear that Scientology never managed to help anyone reach a stable O.T. state such as we then envisaged, unless we assume there were a hell of a lot of people willing to flat out lie, some folks did, occasionally, manage to do some extra-ordinary things. "Close but NO CIGAR, " some say. Yes, sure enough. But "CLOSE!!!"

I've heard, repeatedly, of the failures of Scientology. Got that. I still like to read of the times it got -- close.

Best,

G.

Thanks for all your suggestions, and especially your enjoyment of my posts. It always lifts my spirit when someone finds value in my writings.

I apologize for the Chronicles not being on my internet site. I have been having a hell of a time getting caught up, and the guy who does my web site and knows how to update it, is most difficult to pin down.

To date I have written 7 Chronicles, and parts of many others. I have ben so blessed, the the entire story will probably fill nine books by the time I am done. So I will get them to you as I can. Thanks for your understanding and support. love John

 

[The Magic Thetan]

That was my point FoTi, there is nothing racist in the character. I beleive that what the NAACP might have perceived was the Uncle Remus's speech had an Ebonics accent, now accepted but in the 1940's it signified a lack of schooling and education. Also, it tended to portray blacks and whites as two divided groups. The whites were more educated, wore nicer clotes, though Uncle Remus was properly attired, spoke better and ran things and the blacks were subservient to the whites and did their biding.

Anyone watching the video could see that Uncle Remus was very wise, despite his lack of schooling and he knew life better than any white person in the movie. Apparently the NAACP did not care about a person's heart, his intelligence or his character, they wanted Blacks to be portrayed as equal to Whites as far as education and refinement. The strange thing about this period was that the Blacks were potentially equally refined but were hindered from realizing their potential due to the laws of the White society they were born into. If the Blacks could not be shown as socially equal, the NAACP did not want them shown at all.

The fact that Uncle Remus was wiser, and better adjusted and happier than any White was missed on the Black Leadership. Even the fact that the Whites, both adults and kids sought out Uncle Remus's advice in private did not sway the NAACP. They wanted to be portrayed as culturally equal or not be portrayed at all. IN THIS DECISION OF THEIRS, I BELIEVE THEY WERE VERY SHORT SIGHTED. THE SUPERIOR CHARACTER AND SUPERIOR WISDOM OF THE BLACK MAN AS COMPARED TO THE WHITE PEOPLE IN THIS MOVIE WAS OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN AND YET THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED TO BE SHOWN BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ON AN EQUAL FOOTING WITH THE WHITES IN SO FAR AS BEING ACCEPTED INTO THEIR SOCIAL CLASS. Had more movies of this type been made and allowed to be shown, I think integration and equal rights might have come sooner and with less violence.

I speak from experience, I was a happy, intelligent 8 year old boy of white and Jewish heritage and I saw right away that Uncle Remus was the smartest man by far in the entire movie. He was at one with life, he knew life, he spolke only truths and was always there to lend a helping hand. In the deepest crises which were faced in the movie, he was a rock of sanity and help to all people, Balcks and Whites whom he came into contact with. I saw this to such a great extent that I wanted to be just like him. Apparently Ethics Particle felt the same way. To label this movie racist and pull it from being marketed is such a short sighted and stupid act that it defies description.
Lakey

What do you think of the idea of forwarding this sequence of Uncle Remus posts to the NAACP?