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RogerB

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The Second Dynamic

All the talk about the dynamics, and in particular the 2nd Dynamic, reminds me of a definition of the 2D from Creation of Human Ability that I've always liked.

I like it because it's very much a spiritual definition rather than being pinned to that mucky bodily stuff :D

In COHA, Hubbard wrote: the Second Dynamic is duplication of purposes for and in the future. :D

Is that neat or is that neat?

I'll say one thing about it, it makes for wonderful relationships between "consenting adults" . . . and, MAB, you don't need any bloody beer! :no:

RogerB
 
Kayaker comes face-to-face with great white shark as it tips his boat

(This is between San Francisco and Santa Cruz, in Northern California) The article is from the Santa Cruz Sentinel

By Allen Bushnell
Posted: 08/17/2010 01:30:41 AM PDT


Adam Coca measures the marks left on the bottom of his 13-foot kayak...
PIGEON POINT -- A 45-year-old kayak fisherman from Pinole angling near Pigeon Point on Saturday came face-to-face with the biggest fish of his life -- a great white shark.

Adam Coca launched from a small cove just north of Pigeon Point on the San Mateo coast. Located within the "Red Triangle," an area described by Año Nuevo on the south, the Farallon Islands to the west and Bodega Bay north, this section of water is known for the frequent sightings and occasional interactions with great white sharks.

Coca was paddling his yellow Ocean Kayak Prowler, a 13-foot sit-on-top fishing boat, and had just stopped to fish in about 30 feet of water when he encountered a great white.

"I was south of Bean Hollow off those beaches toward Pigeon Point," Coca said. "I felt it hit the nose of my boat from below, like boom! kaboom! then it flipped the boat over. I was halfway in the water, basically an anchor point as the shark chewed my boat and pushed. We must have done three or four full circles like that."

Coca was finally able to climb atop his overturned boat and hugged the stern while the shark continued to chew on the nose.

"I held onto my boat and looked right into its eye," Coca said. "The shark was at least as long as my boat."

The great white became tangled in Coca's paddle leash and was distracted by the flailing paddle, toward which it turned and bit, severing the leash. After that last bite the shark submerged and disappeared.

"I flipped my boat back over and jumped in quick like a cat," Coca quipped. "Then I just hung onto the rails and braced for the next bump, which never came."

Alerted by Coca's distress call on the VHF radio, other kayak anglers quickly appeared on the scene and helped collect his floating gear, including the damaged paddle that had a gash in one of the blades.

Despite some water leakage from tooth holes in the bow, Coca was able to paddle his Prowler 13 safely into shore with just a scratch on his shin, and neat triangular holes in one wetsuit bootie and paddling shoe.

The bite marks on the bottom of the boat measured 18 inches at the widest portion of the arc, and the individual tooth marks were about 2 inches apart, Coca said.

In July 2007 kayak fisherman Dan Prather had an almost identical experience at Bean Hollow. He was thrown from his kayak while a great white chewed on the nose of his boat. Prather also was able to paddle in safely with no injuries.

Santa Cruz shark expert Sean Van Sommeran from the Pelagic Shark Research Foundation is not surprised at this recent interaction or the location.

"It's a matter of acclimation," Van Sommeran said. "Just like the fly fishermen have gotten used to fishing rivers 10 feet from the bears, we have to get used to being in their shark territory."

According to Sommeran, "safety while in the ocean is a matter of familiarity and possessing some situational awareness."

Understandably, Coca is relieved to have escaped his close encounter relatively unscathed. He plans to return to ocean fishing, even at Bean Hollow, as soon as he repairs his boat. "Oh yeah, you gotta get back on the horse, for sure."

When asked his thoughts while staring at the chewing shark, Coca said, "I have these stripes on the bottom of my boat, a pattern of camouflage, like a home-grown shark shield. I just thought I might need a new pattern."
 

Blue Spirit

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Good Observations

Your discussion of the dynamics sounds very valid to me. I agree with everything you say. I would be interested in doing Mary Freeman's ethics class if it became available to me. As I always say, her Mom, Adele Vonnie, was a very close friend of mine and was my junior in CCLA treasury.

Just a thing about the Harmonic of the dynamics. It seems to me that LRH had no choice but to initially focus on the lower harmonic of the dynamics as lived by nearly all human beings who came through Scientology's doors. What is lacking and does not exist as far as I know was an appropriately higher toned version of the dynamics to be taught to OT's and/or people above 4.0 on the tone scale.

This was a big omission. It seems as if Mary Freeman has plugged this gap in the tech but unfortunately a lot of would be OT's left the Orgs not really making the grade due to the lack of this data being available to them.

Once people attested to states of OT, they were still operating off of the lowest harmonics of each condition as exemplified by everyday dealings in life on Earth. This is perhaps one reason why so many who attested to various OT levels show very few signs of being an OT. Had they been given a course or hatting such as Mary provides, many with OT certificates would be actually exhibiting real OT abilities. As it is now, most so called OT's have no OT like powers whatsoever.
Lakey

Your observations certainly appear to be correct to me.

Additionally the later OT Levels really didn't concentrate on pure OT abilities.
 

Blue Spirit

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For FACE

FACE, your experiences in your #5 segment remind me of ALAN's Rugby stories.

You might enjoy that and maybe some of his Tech posts too.

He was the first, I believe, on this board to spot where and when and how LRH went off the rails,
although that is most likely of no interest to you any longer.
 

Blue Spirit

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ETHICS

Let me say at the outset that I myself have never done either Exchange nor Conditions by Dynamics nor have I seen it done on another. So I accept that there may well be great benefits to these, however, I myself have not seen them.

The views I had in the CofS on Ethics Conditions were all thrown in the bin after I left when I had the lucky chance to do Mary Freeman's 1st Dynamic ethics program. The whole meaning of everything was turned on its head and, judging by the results I personally had from the program, I knew that this was the correct approach to the matter. This has been confirmed over and over since then by the results attained on the dozens and dozens of people whom I have guided through the program.

The Dynamics were always drawn schematically as a series of concentric circles with First Dyn at the centre; the other dynamics radieting around that one. Well, if the centre is in a low condition all the others are non-optimum as well. Not that they are of lesser value than the first but because the basic theta being who is the person is missing, or at best present on a substitute basis only.

So this has to be handled first, and when it is handled the guy can safely be left to his own devices in cleaning up the others. If he needs a bit of guidance then OK, but if he really is there as a being he likely won't need it. Remember that every policy letter, every law in every country, every command that has to be obeyed, is always a substitute for the thetan being present. very often it is a direct attempt to unmock the thetan, as in the case of "When in doubt, do what Ron says". [When was that ever part of the Doubt Formula?]

Also recognise that what is described as what the dynamics consist of in most Scientology literature by LRH is not a description of the true dynamic itself, but is rather a description of how a lower (much much lower) harmonic of the dynamic manifests on this planet. The booklet on Dynamics and the Tone Scale (based on an early LRH lecture) gave a chart which laid this out.

The true first dynamic only appears when the being reaches 4.0 on the Tone Scale, the second at 6.0, the 3rd at 15.0. Below 4,0 one is dealing not with a true first dyn but with a mestified lower harmonic of it - the body, and its health and fitness and so on.

So there is much to this area. I am not here going to go into a full exposition of it - that would take a book. But you have some basic ideas that I take as a starting point in this subject.

Always remember that LRH was never a Scientologist.

I agree fully with this sentiment. We've had enough if it.

All of the above makes absolute Common Sense, Leon.

I think I need Mary's program, although much progress has been made on my tone, recently.


I asked LRH recently if he was a Scientologist.
He replied (jokingly) "Never".
Then he said that he keeps that beingness around secondarily to be in comm
with those who consider themselves Scientologists.

When all intended comms with "LRH" are complete, I will post the whole of them.
 

Blue Spirit

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Lakey Stats

Lakey, only 12 posts to go for 5000 posts !

Are you keeping a graph with an inverted scale to track your progress toward
the #1 position for number of views ?
 

Blue Spirit

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Water Machines

This is a fist preamble to responding to what Roger asked for, having to do with Kangen Water. It is not what Roger requested. To get that, I will have to do a lot of research on line. Just to give you an idea of how Kangen presents their own case, this short video is typical.

The presentation if direct and honest appearing, no competitors are mentioned and no one is bashed or criticized. They just present their case in a simple to understand format designed mainly for the layman. There is a small bit of science presented but no rigorous chemical analyses. If you take the information presented in this short video and build it into a 2 hour presentation, using more tests, a series of slides, and presentation of many anecdotes from adherents present in the crowd, you will get the idea of what they are saying and claiming. There are no boisterous claims by the company merely suggestions that aging can be slowed and the body can be aided by drinking their water.

I will try to get more tech data on the actual chemistry of the ionization process and what goes on inside the machine as far as what filters they use, what chemicals they use and how the ionization is performed. There a are a tremendous amount of very vocal critics on the internet. I am steeled to that type of thing and pay most of the critics no mind. Many of them work for other companies which sell a similar unit at a much lower price. Here is a company sponsored video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8PBufEjRzo

Here are some testimonials, not for Kangen but for ionized water in general.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBvvaqrIsY8&NR=1


I think these videos have enough merit to warrant further research into the matter.
lakey

I believe the Kangen claims, but I strongly object to its GREEDY price of $4000. More MLM insanity.
I have bought two of these machines, one at $600 and one (still in the box)
at $1000, which has the fancy digital readouts, etc.
These machines all use the same essential coil element to create their effects. That is a standard item, made in Japan.

Another effective type of machine that I also own is the
"Vitalizer Plus" which spins the water with a vortex using a mineral "cube"and magnetic power. It does make good water of a 6-sided molecule type.

If you have Fluoride in your water you need a special filter for that alone.
 

Blue Spirit

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Beautiful Machine

Here is the aircraft that I'd like to own and fly.

It cruises at 333 mph behind a super-reliable turbine engine with the safety
of a reversible propeller.
It is perfectly engineered and a work of art too.
It uses the state-of-the-art avionics (electronics for the panel) where all of the
needed information is combined on one screen in front of each pilot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIEYiE7UFq4&NR=1
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
No graphs, I avoid them in deference to Challenge

Lakey, only 12 posts to go for 5000 posts !

Are you keeping a graph with an inverted scale to track your progress toward
the #1 position for number of views ?

Seriously, I never keep any graphs on this stuff. Do you know, I was going through my PM's and Carmelo PMed me on Christmas day that we had just passed 16,000 views! Here it is less than 9 months later and we are well over 121,000 views and do 16K in less than a month.

I decided not to emphasize stats much anymore other than comment on major milestones mainly to Carmelo. Some people really seem to be offended by mentioning the stats or shooting to achieve some stat goal. To me, that is their problem and not mine, but why stir something up and annoy someone when you don't have to, so I have chosen not to mention them much if at all. Now when someone brings up stats or asks about them, I sure have the right and duty to answer them.
Lakey
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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My bird!

Here is the aircraft that I'd like to own and fly.

It cruises at 333 mph behind a super-reliable turbine engine with the safety
of a reversible propeller.
It is perfectly engineered and a work of art too.
It uses the state-of-the-art avionics (electronics for the panel) where all of the
needed information is combined on one screen in front of each pilot.

I LOVE it! :biglove: (not yer average, run-of-the-mill "doctor killer" is it?) :p

EP
 

Blue Spirit

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Single versus Twin Engines

I LOVE it! :biglove: (not yer average, run-of-the-mill "doctor killer" is it?) :p

EP

Hi EP,

I believe you are referring to the twin piston engine planes which are death traps if you lose an engine on takeoff where the engine is stressed the greatest.and also if you didn't drain enough fuel from the tanks on your preflight check, then you could have an engine choking on water and failing.

That Socata costs $3 million, but you can find a self-built single engine turbine with a Czechoslovak engine (simpler) for way under a million. I think about 1/2M. The trick is to get one already built, as who has time to build one ?

Do you have a license ?
 
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Blue Spirit

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Hairy Airliner Landings

Two places that fit the title are St. Maarten Island and Hong Kong.

Here are a few videos to get you started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-2vqC4fk6M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkeVHBnPMco&feature=fvsr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVy6cgbF3F4&feature=related


An interesting thing is that a wing generates a horizontal tornado coming off of each wingtip, which on a large airliner is very powerful.
I was landing at Dulles one day and a plane was disabled on the runway causing a 747 to abort its landing in front of me. I called the tower and told them I wanted to leave the area to avoid possibly hitting the 747's "wake turbulence" which can flip a small plane instantly.

If you want to have some fun sometime get close to a landing airliner on foot and be on a grassy area where it will knock you off of your feet when the
spinning tornado "wake turbulence" hits you.
 

afaceinthecrowd

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All the talk about the dynamics, and in particular the 2nd Dynamic, reminds me of a definition of the 2D from Creation of Human Ability that I've always liked.

I like it because it's very much a spiritual definition rather than being pinned to that mucky bodily stuff :D

In COHA, Hubbard wrote: the Second Dynamic is duplication of purposes for and in the future. :D

Is that neat or is that neat?

I'll say one thing about it, it makes for wonderful relationships between "consenting adults" . . . and, MAB, you don't need any bloody beer! :no:

RogerB

I like this, Rog...good stuff!:yes:

Face:)
 
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