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Vinaire said:
When one is looking at second hand observation one cannot determine the veracity of it simply from the character of the source of that data.
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See, now, you're doing what you accused others of doing - which, allow me to simplify for you, is making assumptions.

What makes you think my observations are second-hand? And what makes you think I am determining the veracity of the data from Hubbard's character?

If you read *and absorbed* what I have been saying, Vinaire, you would know that's not the case.

As you correctly said that the beingness of the source of information is irrelevant.
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That would indicate that you didn't read (and/or comprehend) past my first two sentences.

People see Hubbard's data all correct when they consider him as "good". But then others see his data all wrong and misleading when they consider him "evil".
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This would indicate that you don't read Gadfly's posts thoroughly, either.

Tell you what, Vin. You go back and re-read my posts (and Gadfly's for that matter), and then re-re-read to make sure you get it all. Once you can summarize what I said correctly, we can continue. Until then, I'm afraid I just can't take you seriously. Remember, a conversation goes two ways.

ML,
Caliwog
http://caliwog.wordpress.com
 
Caliwog said:
See, now, you're doing what you accused others of doing - which, allow me to simplify for you, is making assumptions.

What makes you think my observations are second-hand? And what makes you think I am determining the veracity of the data from Hubbard's character?

If you read *and absorbed* what I have been saying, Vinaire, you would know that's not the case. ...
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Are you suggesting that Vin hasn't bothered to LOOK! :omg:


Mark A. Baker
 
Mark A. Baker said:
Are you suggesting that Vin hasn't bothered to LOOK! :omg:

Mark A. Baker
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Say it isn't so!!!!!!!

The Master of Looking, himself not looking? :whistling:

My world is falling apart around me as I write this . . . .

The foundation of my personal reality's stable datum have been brutally shattered! :bigcry:

Oh, I know where I can find some ready-made & brand-spankin' new "stable data". Where is that copy of "Fundamentals of Thought"? :omg: :omg: :omg:
(sarcasm)

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uniquemand said:
Is there some reason posters are devolving to attributing evil intentions (or any intentions) to Vinaire? Is there some reason this is acceptable?

I'd love it if we could stick to discussion of the OP, or skip the thread if it's not of interest.
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I agree.
Mark A. Baker said:
Fine. You go. You're an OT VIII. You can confront anything. :)
Mark A. Baker
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The ability to do a given thing is often quite separate from the willingness to do that thing. I sometimes regret making suggestions such as the one which prompted your comment. This is one of those times. :blush:
 
Panda Termint said:
I agree.

The ability to do a given thing is often quite separate from the willingness to do that thing. I sometimes regret making suggestions such as the one which prompted your comment. This is one of those times. :blush:
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Yes, the ability to do or not do is a d@mn good escape clause. :coolwink:


Mark A. Baker
 
*phew* pant, pant

That was a long thread, and although I read it, I don't think I remember it now.

Except at one point Mark said something was the difference between Hubbard being run over by a bus, or hit by a car. I think he meant being run over by a train (on Venus!) :eyeroll:

Sorry, don't mind me, carry on
 
Jump said:
I think he meant being run over by a train (on Venus!) :eyeroll:
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[Scientologist valence]

Flunk, Jump! LRH has NEVER said there were trains on Venus*. You need to clear the word TRAIN, which is a string of railroad cars with a locomotive on one end and a caboose or marker light on the other. How DARE you misrepresent LRH and the tech. What are YOUR crimes, Jump? How many trains have YOU used to run over people? I bet you run over your wife with trains, don't you?

[/Scientologist valence]

* LRH said he was nearly hit by a freight locomotive. For the record, Venusians are a friendly people who just want to run their railroads in peace.

ML,
Caliwog
http://caliwog.wordpress.com
 
uniquemand said:
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This is so wrong! On many levels!

LOL - literally.


Quasi
 
Jump said:
*phew* pant, pant

That was a long thread, and although I read it, I don't think I remember it now.

Except at one point Mark said something was the difference between Hubbard being run over by a bus, or hit by a car. I think he meant being run over by a train (on Venus!) :eyeroll:

Sorry, don't mind me, carry on
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lol, you're in good company. many of us have that old timer's disease! :)
 
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