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lkwdblds

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Lakey, if I understand you correctly you are speaking of learning after the fact and taking responsibility for having been cause, no?

I was speaking of not being aware before the incident occurs.... getting into the wrong side of things because of not knowing what would occur and making the wrong move, not knowing it would end up in an undesirable result. In other words, how can we be expected to know in advance? If people already knew in advance what would occur, depending on the choices available, would they normally not take the one that would turn out better? Most people don't like egg on their face or to muck up their lives or the lives of those around them, and usually try to do what they think is best, don't they?

FoTi, your assumption is correct. I'm taking it as a given that one is not aware of how things are going to turn out before the incident occurs. After all, we are talking about playing the games of life. If one knew 100% how something was going to turn out beforehand, that would be a no game condition. No analysis or "post mortem" study would ever have to be made. If something ended up broken, the person would not have misgivings because he/she intended it to end up that way beforehand.

I am making one important distinction. On some topics, one can be "in the know" partially. In this type of scenario, a person may try something and see what happens. If things start to go sour, the person will try mid course corrections.

An example of the above comes frequently in managing a business. The person introduces a new product or ad campaign or somesuch, not really knowing if it will catch on. He observes how it goes and adjusts his business accordingly.

This is not the type of example which I was addressing in my quoted post. In that post I was looking at examples where my knowing or knowledge was so low that I did not even realize that I was in the game being played.

An example of that would be being a child of 5 and not even being aware that one's being a family member carried some responsibility with it. In those halcyon childhood days, the 5 year old seems to be loved by nearly everybody he/she comes in contact with. The parents love the child, as do the grandparents, all the other relatives and friends who come to visit, etc. The 5 year just gets the idea that everyone loves him and that he does not have to do anything in return to merit that love.

I am saying is that if something goes wrong in a 5 year old's family life and years later the 5year old justifies his claim that he was not responsible by asserting that he was too young to know anything, then that 5 year old ,who is now grown, up would do better to look deeper and take some responsibility for his part in what went wrong rather than just justify it by stating that he was to young to know or do anything.
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FoTi

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FoTi, your assumption is correct. I'm taking it as a given that one is not aware of how things are going to turn out before the incident occurs. After all, we are talking about playing the games of life. If one knew 100% how something was going to turn out beforehand, that would be a no game condition. No analysis or "post mortem" study would ever have to be made. If something ended up broken, the person would not have misgivings because he/she intended it to end up that way beforehand.

I am making one important distinction. On some topics, one can be "in the know" partially. In this type of scenario, a person may try something and see what happens. If things start to go sour, the person will try mid course corrections.

An example of the above comes frequently in managing a business. The person introduces a new product or ad campaign or somesuch, not really knowing if it will catch on. He observes how it goes and adjusts his business accordingly.

This is not the type of example which I was addressing in my quoted post. In that post I was looking at examples where my knowing or knowledge was so low that I did not even realize that I was in the game being played.

An example of that would be being a child of 5 and not even being aware that one's being a family member carried some responsibility with it. In those halcyon childhood days, the 5 year old seems to be loved by nearly everybody he/she comes in contact with. The parents love the child, as do the grandparents, all the other relatives and friends who come to visit, etc. The 5 year just gets the idea that everyone loves him and that he does not have to do anything in return to merit that love.

I am saying is that if something goes wrong in a 5 year old's family life and years later the 5year old justifies his claim that he was not responsible by asserting that he was too young to know anything, then that 5 year old ,who is now grown, up would do better to look deeper and take some responsibility for his part in what went wrong rather than just justify it by stating that he was to young to know or do anything.
Lakey

:blink::dizzy: I think I'm done with this conversation.
 

Leon

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Any person who can watch that last viddy without being moved to tears is an emotional meathead.
 

Jachs

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Id say a Narcissist would not cry,

Like L R Hubbard , he would say the socailly acceptable "thats very sad" but devoid of sincerity ,"just" indifferent words, he may say he almost wept though, he may even state this indifference as a benefit of rising above the bank.

was he an emotional meathead..

or callous narcissist?
 

FoTi

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Yes. That is what I protest...and my Easter flower arrangement from FTD wilting...... :coolwink:

Hat, I'm missing your avatar with the ring of flowers around your head.....Easter or not...it's such a pretty picture.
 

FoTi

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Id say a Narcissist would not cry,

Like L R Hubbard , he would say the socailly acceptable "thats very sad" but devoid of sincerity ,"just" indifferent words, he may say he almost wept though, he may even state this indifference as a benefit of rising above the bank.

was he an emotional meathead..

or callous narcissist?

Maybe both?
 

Hatshepsut

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Alas, Spring gives way to summer

Keukenhof gardens in the South Holland region of the Netherlands. Someone sent me these in an email

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The Bloemenmarkt
 

RogerB

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Oh....OK

:wink2:

Thankyou...it's back

Yeh . . . . keep it up there. It reminds me of the beautiful things there are in life :yes: Rather like Voltaire's Child's old avatar with the oyster shell nestled on that lovely err, umm, torso.

Beautiful art, as these two avatars are (and I've got to include Emma's two versions of her in this!) are just so pleasing to the eye and soul :yes:

RogerB
 

FoTi

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Alas, Spring gives way to summer

Keukenhof gardens in the South Holland region of the Netherlands. Someone sent me these in an email

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image005.jpg


image003.jpg


image004.jpg


The Bloemenmarkt

Wow! That's the prettiest place I've ever seen.
 

FoTi

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Yeh . . . . keep it up there. It reminds me of the beautiful things there are in life :yes: Rather like Voltaire's Child's old avatar with the oyster shell nestled on that lovely err, umm, torso.

Beautiful art, as these two avatars are (and I've got to include Emma's two versions of her in this!) are just so pleasing to the eye and soul :yes:

RogerB

I like Voltaire's old avatar too.....it's so aesthetic. I wish she'd change it back.
 

Hatshepsut

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Yeh . . . . keep it up there. It reminds me of the beautiful things there are in life :yes: Rather like Voltaire's Child's old avatar with the oyster shell nestled on that lovely err, umm, torso.

Beautiful art, as these two avatars are (and I've got to include Emma's two versions of her in this!) are just so pleasing to the eye and soul :yes:

RogerB

Ah.....Roger is a man who appreciates women
 
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