The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[lkwdblds]

Re: Reconstitute Charge, Don't Just Blow It

Nice, Lakey!

You've hit the nail on the head.

In actuality, the notion of restoring one's encysted spiritual Life-Force that has been trapped in negativity back to positive is, by and large, and omitted datum in most human tech. It's not in $cn: they only practice "get rid of."

In truth, it is a missing point in our education generally. Yet, it is an easy lesson to comprehend when given . . . any person ought be able to get the message when given. All they have to do is observe that a negative condition is changing, and that they have the option of knowingly restoring the encysted "energy" to positive, or of "wasting" it.

Though in actuality, it would not be truly "wasted" but instead would simply float off outside of one's knowing control and direction . . . . but could be recovered with the correct later address.

As a comparable, I posted over on the "Life Between Lives" thread on this theme this morning, here:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...Michael-Newton&p=587601&viewfull=1#post587601

Rog

Rog, nice knowing the charge could be recovered later. I suspected that was the case. Great on posting this theme on the Life-Between-Lives thread.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

How did this thread morph into a place for racist rants?

What words in your quoted post do you consider racist? I could find none in reading what Ted posted. Surely, if someone disagrees with the way a politician is doing his job and that politician has some Black blood in his family tree, a person has the right to critique the politician's job performance.

What are we supposed to do, withhold critiques of a particular politician just because of his racial heritage? I submit to you that to do that would really be racist, while actually critiquing the person in an honest manner is non racist.

An honest critique, good or bad, treats the person being critiqued as a man (or woman), here on an even playing field with the rest of us. To withhold criticism solely BECAUSE of someone's race, treats the person as less than a person by tacitly saying to him that is not up to playing on a level playing field with the rest of us and needs "special treatment" and must be handled with kid gloves. To me, that is real racism!
Lakey

 

[LongTimeGone]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

UK is the 1st.

Yes that is worth a giggle.

http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/14/world-happiest-countries-lifestyle-realestate-gallup-table.html

LTG

P.S. NZ is higher on the list than Australia because they can just wander over here any time they like.
How the others beat us is beyond me. LTG

 

[RogerB]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

In the vein of politics, since I see Ted's little utterance sparked some response . . . .

Ponder on these . . .

25 of the best QUOTES that are CLASSICS

1. In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress. -- John Adams

2. If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain

3. Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain

4. I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -- Winston Churchill

5. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. -- George Bernard Shaw

6. A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -- G. Gordon Liddy

7. Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. -- James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

8. Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. -- Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

9. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

10. Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. -- Frederic Bastiat, French economist (1801-1850)

11. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. -- Ronald Reagan (1986)

12. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. -- Will Rogers

13. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J. O'Rourke

14. In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. -- Voltaire (1764)

15. Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -- Pericles (430 B.C.)

16. No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain (1866)

17. Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it. -- Anonymous

18. The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. -- Ronald Reagan

19. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill

20. The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. -- Mark Twain

21. The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

22. There is no distinctly native American criminal class ... save Congress. -- Mark Twain

23. What this country needs are more unemployed politicians. -- Edward Langley, Artist (1928-1995)

24. A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -- Thomas Jefferson

25. We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. -- Aesop

 

[lkwdblds]

What incredible insights by some incredible people!

In the vein of politics, since I see Ted's little utterance sparked some response . . . .

Ponder on these . . .

25 of the best QUOTES that are CLASSICS

1. In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress. -- John Adams

2. If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain

3. Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain

4. I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -- Winston Churchill

5. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. -- George Bernard Shaw

6. A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -- G. Gordon Liddy

7. Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner. -- James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)

8. Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. -- Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

9. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

10. Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. -- Frederic Bastiat, French economist (1801-1850)

11. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. -- Ronald Reagan (1986)

12. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. -- Will Rogers

13. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J. O'Rourke

14. In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other. -- Voltaire (1764)

15. Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you! -- Pericles (430 B.C.)

16. No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain (1866)

17. Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it. -- Anonymous

18. The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other. -- Ronald Reagan

19. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. -- Winston Churchill

20. The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin. -- Mark Twain

21. The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

22. There is no distinctly native American criminal class ... save Congress. -- Mark Twain

23. What this country needs are more unemployed politicians. -- Edward Langley, Artist (1928-1995)

24. A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -- Thomas Jefferson

25. We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. -- Aesop

These are so true! My favorites are 2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.13.14.15.16.18.20.23.25.

As bad as government can be, anarchy is worse. We need some form of government. If people could be made wiser, more discerning, mor ethical, etc. then perhaps a more perfect government could be devised.

Unfortunately, our society is working in the opposite direction, dumbing down the populace and flooding them with a lot of false information. For governing mankind in it's current state, I believe the constitution originated by the founders of the United States iss by far the best model ever devised.

A country declares its independence in 1776 and adopts a constitution in 1789 with a population of around 3.9 million. By 1945, the country has 150 million and is by far the most powerful country in the world. Along the way, slavery has been abolished, women have received the right to vote and technology has completely revamped the way people live.

1789 to 1945 is only 156 years, about 2 lifetimes. Actually by 1919, the USA was the most powerful country in the world, only 130 years from adoption of its constitution. This is fast!

Sure the country was not perfect. The native Indian people were treated extremely poorly, the Southwest was wrested away from Mexico with no exchange, and a great Civil War had to be fought. All the while, black people were generally treated as second class citizens, with Jim Crow laws in place of slavery. The Federal Reserve Bank was created in 1913 and income tax appeared in the country. Nevertheless, things were moving in a positive direction and far more good was being done than evil.

Under our constitution, things were improving. The country needed to strengthen those things which were good and correct the things which were corrupt. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a huge step in doing away with racial and ethnic discrimination.

Now, it seems that forces are here to change the form of the USA to something else. This "change" as President Obama prophetically called it is well underway and nearly past the point of no return.

The whole system which built the country is now being scorned by many in a sly manner. It's detractors do not openly come out in the open and state that the country is evil because they know that if they did so, almost no one would vote for them or their views. PR and subterfuge are being used to trick the people into giving up their form of government. The forces behind this movement are making steady progress. President Obama is one of their key spokesman. These people probably actually believe they are doing the right thing.

Lakey

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

... Ponder on these . . .

25 of the best QUOTES that are CLASSICS ...

And even more ironically congress truly does represent the american people.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Captain Koolaid]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

What words in your quoted post do you consider racist? I could find none in reading what Ted posted. Surely, if someone disagrees with the way a politician is doing his job and that politician has some Black blood in his family tree, a person has the right to critique the politician's job performance.

What are we supposed to do, withhold critiques of a particular politician just because of his racial heritage? I submit to you that to do that would really be racist, while actually critiquing the person in an honest manner is non racist.

An honest critique, good or bad, treats the person being critiqued as a man (or woman), here on an even playing field with the rest of us. To withhold criticism solely BECAUSE of someone's race, treats the person as less than a person by tacitly saying to him that is not up to playing on a level playing field with the rest of us and needs "special treatment" and must be handled with kid gloves. To me, that is real racism!
Lakey

I didn't imply that Obama cannot be criticised because he's black. I was feferring to Ted stressing Obama's skin colour to imply that he (Obama) has an agenda. And how is one supposed to interpret "Remember, he's the first mulatto president"?

Bush was a puppet for the neo-cons, he was well-meaning but totally inept. Under his guidance civil rights were eroded and disbanded and cutthroat capitalism was pushed relentlessly. Bush took 200 bn dollars and gave it to to the richest 4% owning 90 % of the entire US wealth. Criticising this doesn;t make you a socialist. But that is what the conservatives are trying to make it look like. Just because Obama is trying to reverse this trend does NOT mean he wants to push the country to the far left.

The times when other nations were fawning to be in America's good book are coming to an end, these days "American exeptionalism" is increasingly seen as "American arrogance". Obama is doing well to mend relationships with countries that were pissed off by Bush's ignorance and arrogance. America cannot afford to lose them to other emerging superpowers. Change is not necessarily a bad thing, because the times change as well.

And what's wrong with the US becoming a little more European? We have more liberties, an equal or higher standard of living, a lot less crime. We may pay more taxes but it's well worth it. But that;s just my opinion. But don't worry, maybe Sarah is gonna fix it soon.

 

[Ted]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

I didn't imply that Obama cannot be criticised because he's black. I was feferring to Ted stressing Obama's skin colour to imply that he (Obama) has an agenda. And how is one supposed to interpret "Remember, he's the first mulatto president"?

Bush was a puppet for the neo-cons, he was well-meaning but totally inept. Under his guidance civil rights were eroded and disbanded and cutthroat capitalism was pushed relentlessly. Bush took 200 bn dollars and gave it to to the richest 4% owning 90 % of the entire US wealth. Criticising this doesn;t make you a socialist. But that is what the conservatives are trying to make it look like. Just because Obama is trying to reverse this trend does NOT mean he wants to push the country to the far left.

The times when other nations were fawning to be in America's good book are coming to an end, these days "American exeptionalism" is increasingly seen as "American arrogance". Obama is doing well to mend relationships with countries that were pissed off by Bush's ignorance and arrogance. America cannot afford to lose them to other emerging superpowers. Change is not necessarily a bad thing, because the times change as well.

And what's wrong with the US becoming a little more European? We have more liberties, an equal or higher standard of living, a lot less crime. We may pay more taxes but it's well worth it. But that;s just my opinion. But don't worry, maybe Sarah is gonna fix it soon.

To quote that fictional character, Mr. Spock, "I endeavor to be accurate."

Obama is in fact African-American. He is one of the few people that I know of who can legitimacy make that claim. He is not a negro. He is mulatto.

 

[freethinker]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

If you can believe this:
http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/19/no...hington-world-happiest-countries_slide_2.html

I am a Dutchologist We have Capitalism and Socialism at the same time. Most liberal and least religious

so there

5th country on the happiest list by the way.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

I didn't imply that Obama cannot be criticised because he's black. I was feferring to Ted stressing Obama's skin colour to imply that he (Obama) has an agenda. And how is one supposed to interpret "Remember, he's the first mulatto president"?

Bush was a puppet for the neo-cons, he was well-meaning but totally inept. Under his guidance civil rights were eroded and disbanded and cutthroat capitalism was pushed relentlessly. Bush took 200 bn dollars and gave it to to the richest 4% owning 90 % of the entire US wealth. Criticising this doesn;t make you a socialist. But that is what the conservatives are trying to make it look like. Just because Obama is trying to reverse this trend does NOT mean he wants to push the country to the far left.

The times when other nations were fawning to be in America's good book are coming to an end, these days "American exeptionalism" is increasingly seen as "American arrogance". Obama is doing well to mend relationships with countries that were pissed off by Bush's ignorance and arrogance. America cannot afford to lose them to other emerging superpowers. Change is not necessarily a bad thing, because the times change as well.

And what's wrong with the US becoming a little more European? We have more liberties, an equal or higher standard of living, a lot less crime. We may pay more taxes but it's well worth it. But that;s just my opinion. But don't worry, maybe Sarah is gonna fix it soon.

I don't know, to me what Ted said about President Obama being Black did not register. Certainly there was no racism intended. I believe the word racism is being over used. It is used improperly when no actual racism is taking place. All this does is to cheapen the meaning of the word so when real intended racism occurs and the word is used, the word does not impinge as much as it should.

I don't see Bush's tax cuts the way you see them. I have come around to agreeing that Bush was wrong in going to war with Iraq. That was a very serious mistake which has had huge repurcusions for the USA and the rest of the world. I do feel that he went in for unselfish reasons but his notion of democracy building in the Middle East proved to be a huge mistake.

On those tax cuts, I don't see it at all the way you do. I don't want to debate this on this thread. It is not the proper forum for such a debate and the debate would drag on and on without either side changing one iota so it is a waste of time.

There is nothing wrong with the USA becoming a little more European but that is not the goal. I believe Obama's goal is that we give up American exceptionalism and become a country nearly totally in the European mold.

The main problem in the Euro system is that it is not self sustaining. Religion is in disfavor leading to marriage between men and women being in disfavor, leading to a low birth rate which is also looked on as good in the European view of things.

The low birth rate, less than two children per man and woman leads to a population which is shrinking rather than growing. The problem with that is that the Euro governments need huge tax revenues to float their welfare system type of economies.

With a shrinking population, a country begets a preponderance of non working older people and a shortage of young working age people. Because of this, there is not enough revenue available to the government from taxes to perpetuate the welfare system.

The only solution is to import foreign workers and this is the Achillies heel of the European System. Patriotism is discouraged in the Euro countries. Meanwhile, the third world people entering those countries do not want to become Frenchmen, Germans, Dutch, Swedes, Norweigans, etc. They prefer to keep their existing cultures and resist adopting the cultures of their hosts countires. In particular this is true for Muslim immigrants coming in from Turkey, the Arab countries and North Aftrica.

The European system cannot sustain and the host countries will probably see their Nations and national cultures diminish and ultimately vanish within a realatively short period of time, perhaps 50 or so years.

To sustain the Euro System, a country needs a continuous large flow of new workers who are loyal to their host country. This class has to be increasing faster than the number of older people who are retiring from the work force. It is a wealth distribution scheme and it needs fresh money coming in in ever greater numbers from the workers to support the welfare system for the retired and elderly. There is no way the Europeans can sustain this system without making drastic changes, such as encouraging a higher birth rate.

The USA has the same type of thing occuring with people now living longer causing a reduced number of workers to have to pay the way for the older folks who are now receiving Social Securtiy and other forms of government assistance. We are in a better position to deal with this than the Europeans if we act now. If instead of dealing with it, we adopt the European model, it will cause a financial debacle to occur for us.

This is not really the time for us to transfer to a more European type of economy. If we want to be a bit more European and learn to speak more languages, travel more by rail, learn to appreciate fine foods, films, art, music and things such as that, I am all for it.
Lakey

 

[RogerB]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

To quote that fictional character, Mr. Spock, "I endeavor to be accurate."

Obama is in fact African-American. He is one of the few people that I know of who can legitimacy make that claim. He is not a negro. He is mulatto.

'Tis a factual statement. What's to be upset with it?

Our president played the "I'm a black man" card masterfully in the campaigning game.

Hell, it's even possible that had he spoken the truth that he is mulatto . . . it might well have cost him his game: he'd have probably
either upset a lot of "his constituency" or killed off half the population with a misunderstood!

Personally, I was glad to see the healing in the nation that occurred when he was elected.

But as more and more truth about the man is revealed, and as one gets to see his performance in office . . . . it's one hell of a disaster.

Too much incompetence, too many betrayals.

RogerB

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

I don't know, to me what Ted said about President Obama being Black did not register. Certainly there was no racism intended. ...

Well, Lakey, if you think the word 'mulatto' is a polite word to use about a person's ethnicity then perhaps you should do an extensive word clearing on its origins.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Lesolee (Sith Lord)]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

Well, Lakey, if you think the word 'mulatto' is a polite word to use about a person's ethnicity then perhaps you should do an extensive word clearing on its origins.

wikipedia: Henings Statutes of Virginia 1705

And for clearing all manner of doubts which hereafter may happen to arise upon the construction of this act, or any other act, who shall be accounted a mulatto, Be it enacted and declared, and it is hereby enacted and declared, That the child of an Indian and the child, grand child, or great grand child, of a negro shall be deemed, accounted, held and taken to be a mulatto.

For me there are normal people and there are inbred people with pedigrees.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

wikipedia: Henings Statutes of Virginia 1705


For me there are normal people and there are inbred people with pedigrees.

Virginia in 1705 was not an 'ethnically sensitive' society. For those among us who are naturally a bit thick ...

Mulatto Mu*lat"to, n.; pl. Mulattoes. [Sp. & Pg. mulato,
masc., mulata, fem., of a mixed breed, fr. mulo mule, L.
mulus. See Mule.]

Mark A. Baker

 

[Ted]

Truth or Bull...

I will soften the blow for easy assimilation: Obama is of mixed breed. A claim that he is Black is a misnomer. Everything else about him is debatable. Some people say he's really intelligent. I say he is devious. Some say he is a great leader. I say he is feckless.

And so it goes. On and on...

 

[freethinker]

Re: The Apollo Narcissist

could you expound on what you mean by this because personally I never saw the "healing"

Personally, I was glad to see the healing in the nation that occurred when he was elected.

.

RogerB

 

[lkwdblds]

I see your point.

Well, Lakey, if you think the word 'mulatto' is a polite word to use about a person's ethnicity then perhaps you should do an extensive word clearing on its origins.


Mark A. Baker

I see your point about it not being polite. My point is that I do not believe that it's use automatically qualifies the remark which contains it as a racist remark.

In summary, the truth is that President Obama is a mulatto. I agree with you that for some reason probably having to do with the history of the word, in today's society, it is not a polite word to use. Using it may offend some people and it would be more politically correct to choose some other word. However, if one does choose to use the word "mulatto", to me that would not in any was give sufficient cause to call the person's remark racist.
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

The "Healing"

could you expound on what you mean by this because personally I never saw the "healing"

The "healing" began before President Obama declared his candidacy. To be aware of the healing that occurred, one must have some reality on the disease which existed prior to said healing.

Black people were slaves in this country for an extended period and even when slavery ended, they were generally not thought of as equal to White people by many whites.

I witnessed Jim Crow laws in action in Miami, Florida in the summer of 1955 when, as a 15 year old, I went to work for my Aunt and Uncle in their business. Water fountains and restrooms were labeled "White" and "Colored". The Blacks had to ride in the back of the bus. Most lunch counters had signs prohibiting them from eating there.

In 1950, I was a movie, The "Jackie Robinson Story" about the fabeled athlete from U.C.L.A. becoming the first Black baseball player to break the color barrier.

Even in 1962, a Black friend who visited Las Vegas with me could not gain admittance to my hotel. In 1964, we tried it again and and he was able to register.

In the 1950's black people were a sub culture of America and had the worst jobs. They were primarily "garbage collecters", washroom attendants, shoe shine boys, "Red Caps' at the train stations and airports, busboys, and unskilled laborers. Black women usually were maids or came to people's houses to clean them.

In the South in the 1960's, those Whites who marched with the Blacks to improve conditions were often singled out to be beat up or even murdered. Somewhere after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, things began to improve.

One of the big things which contributed to this in the USA were the sports heroes. Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls brought the entire city of Chicago together. Fans rallied around the Willie Mays's, Wilt Chamberlins, Kareem Abdul Jabbars, etc in professional sports. One could feel racism lessening when attending a baseball, football or basketball game at a University or in the arenas of the big cities. White fans where wearing the jerseys of the top black players, cheering for them, idolizing them and buying their mementos and sports paraphenalia.

When that started happening, I began to feel that the walls of racism were crumbling. The White fans absolutely went crazy and cheered at the top of their lungs for their Black players. HEALING HAD BEGUN!

There are two impressive facts about President Obama's being voted into office as the President of the USA. First, when Obama entered the race for the Democratic party nomination, Hillary Clinton was far ahead of all other candidates. The Clintons. Bill and Hilary, were one of the most powerful political families in American. Obama with very little political experience was able to topple Hilary Clinton and wrest the nomination away from her. A majority of White voters prefered Obama to a powerful and well known White woman, Hilary Clinton.

Next came the general election. WHEN I WAS A KID, PEOPLE USE TO SPECULATE THAT SOMEDAY, PROBABLY IN THE DISTANT FUTURE, THE USA WOULD ELECT A BLACK PRESIDENT. President Obama swept to a convincing victory in the general election with considerably more White people voting for him than for his White rival, John McCain. The fact that more white people voted for Obama than for Mc Cain illustrated clearly that much healing had already taken place in the United States since those days when I was a teenager down in Miami in 1955.

I'll tell you this. If our country was getting stronger, the economy was good and there was low unemployment, President Obama would easily sweep to victory for a second term. THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. The proof is that he may win anyway, even though the country is in financial disarray and unemployment is high. The next election is going to be very close. If Obama loses, it will be because of his record.

In summary, to be aware of the healing that has occurred, you must compare the country's current performance in dealing with racial relations to the performances of earlier days such as prior to 1860, between 1865 and 1955, between 1955 and 1964 and between 1964 to the present. Though there is still more healing which must take place, an enormous amount of healing has already occurred!
Lakey

 

[lkwdblds]

Excellent points about President Obama

'Tis a factual statement. What's to be upset with it?

Our president played the "I'm a black man" card masterfully in the campaigning game.

Hell, it's even possible that had he spoken the truth that he is mulatto . . . it might well have cost him his game: he'd have probably
either upset a lot of "his constituency" or killed off half the population with a misunderstood!

Personally, I was glad to see the healing in the nation that occurred when he was elected.

But as more and more truth about the man is revealed, and as one gets to see his performance in office . . . . it's one hell of a disaster.

Too much incompetence, too many betrayals.

RogerB

Terrific post Roger! Short, concise and to the point. I agree with every word of it.
Lakey

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Re: I see your point.

I see your point about it not being polite. My point is that I do not believe that it's use automatically qualifies the remark which contains it as a racist remark.

In summary, the truth is that President Obama is a mulatto. I agree with you that for some reason probably having to do with the history of the word, in today's society, it is not a polite word to choose. Using it may offend some people and it would be more politically correct to choose aome other word. However, if one does choose to use the word "mulatto", to me that would not in any was give sufficient cause to call the person's remark racist.
Lakey

So Lakey, as an hypothetical question, would you care to have your daughter publicly likened to a mule simply because of her parentage? What part of that would you deem as 'respectful' and not intentionally demeaning?

The fact that this reference to an 'hybrid' stems from common preconceptions about racial differences should clue you in that it is clearly intended as a racial epithet, however the appellation may have been 'meant' by 'nice people' .


Mark A. Baker