'Death by Devotion:Tragic Tale of Scientology Celeb. Cntr. Brainchild Yvonne Jentzsch
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afaceinthecrowd
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Thanks, Ogs.
Along with knowing El Ron and Yvonne, I also knew Skip Press. I know for a fact that his story is accurate in every way, including the part about the International Public Relations Organization.
Face
Wasn't sure where to place this story so HERE it is, comments are open and already being trolled by the Ronbots.
I found it an interesting read that fills in a few gaps of history, enjoy!
Thanks, Ogs.
Along with knowing El Ron and Yvonne, I also knew Skip Press. I know for a fact that his story is accurate in every way, including the part about the International Public Relations Organization.
Face
Ogsonofgroo
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Thanks to you too Face, glad to be of service. The story had an air of veracity imho, which is why I posted it.
Thanks to you too Face, glad to be of service. The story had an air of veracity imho, which is why I posted it.
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I wonder what's going through the minds of the OSA bots attacking article after article. The entheta has grown so much over the last years, do they really believe that this is a sign that Scientology is winning?
I wonder what's going through the minds of the OSA bots attacking article after article. The entheta has grown so much over the last years, do they really believe that this is a sign that Scientology is winning?
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Yes…actually in the their tragically skewed “World View”, Scns have been inculcated with the El Ron “Datum” that when you are “Winning”, going “Up Scale” as “Theta the Solver” and bringing “Sanity” to a “World Gone Mad” from “Whole Track Implants”, “SP’s” are “Attracted” and “Attack” which is an "Indicator" of your “Success”.
That's why, as the story goes, El Ron went "Fabian" and founded the SO to "Put in Ethics" in this "Sector".
Face
I wonder what's going through the minds of the OSA bots attacking article after article. The entheta has grown so much over the last years, do they really believe that this is a sign that Scientology is winning?
Yes…actually in the their tragically skewed “World View”, Scns have been inculcated with the El Ron “Datum” that when you are “Winning”, going “Up Scale” as “Theta the Solver” and bringing “Sanity” to a “World Gone Mad” from “Whole Track Implants”, “SP’s” are “Attracted” and “Attack” which is an "Indicator" of your “Success”.
That's why, as the story goes, El Ron went "Fabian" and founded the SO to "Put in Ethics" in this "Sector".
Face
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Besides Yvonne, during the time I was Flag Crew at the FLB, another of my fellow Crew Members died of Brain Cancer…Ralph Soma. I liked Ralph and so did just about everyone else…he was a real fine, fun feller. He and his wife, Rhaylin (sp?) were good, decent folks and had a baby shortly before he died. I’ve often wondered over these many years what has happened to Ralph’s beloved wife and child…and fervently hope that they are out and living well.
Ralph, like Yvonne, was not treated for the Cancer. The sad thing is that both Yvonne and Ralph became quasi non-persons that just disappeared one day and a month or so later the Crew was informed that they had passed on and a bland, short memorial service was cobbled together that “upstats” could attend.
I had several chats with Yvonne shortly before she was shunted off to die. As always she was smiling and spoke most properly and discreetly in her lilting voice, kind manner and lovely eyes…eyes that I had first gazed into over 12 years before, and years before she Founded Celebrity Center…eyes that, at our last meeting, could not mask the hurt of the betrayal, nor the tears from her physical and emotional pain...tears that she bravely fought back.
Yvonne ended our last chat by placing her hand softly on my cheek while saying, “You are such a dear, Face.”
I miss her and love her to this day.
Face
Thanks to you too Face, glad to be of service. The story had an air of veracity imho, which is why I posted it.
Besides Yvonne, during the time I was Flag Crew at the FLB, another of my fellow Crew Members died of Brain Cancer…Ralph Soma. I liked Ralph and so did just about everyone else…he was a real fine, fun feller. He and his wife, Rhaylin (sp?) were good, decent folks and had a baby shortly before he died. I’ve often wondered over these many years what has happened to Ralph’s beloved wife and child…and fervently hope that they are out and living well.
Ralph, like Yvonne, was not treated for the Cancer. The sad thing is that both Yvonne and Ralph became quasi non-persons that just disappeared one day and a month or so later the Crew was informed that they had passed on and a bland, short memorial service was cobbled together that “upstats” could attend.
I had several chats with Yvonne shortly before she was shunted off to die. As always she was smiling and spoke most properly and discreetly in her lilting voice, kind manner and lovely eyes…eyes that I had first gazed into over 12 years before, and years before she Founded Celebrity Center…eyes that, at our last meeting, could not mask the hurt of the betrayal, nor the tears from her physical and emotional pain...tears that she bravely fought back.
Yvonne ended our last chat by placing her hand softly on my cheek while saying, “You are such a dear, Face.”
I miss her and love her to this day.
Face
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In the wog world good guys finish last. In Scientology they are finished first.
In the wog world good guys finish last. In Scientology they are finished first.
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Nothing ... they are in a box and therefore cannot think outside it. No critical thinking switched on at all, they are brainwashed.
Sad really
I wonder what's going through the minds of the OSA bots attacking article after article. The entheta has grown so much over the last years, do they really believe that this is a sign that Scientology is winning?
Nothing ... they are in a box and therefore cannot think outside it. No critical thinking switched on at all, they are brainwashed.
Sad really
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Re: 'Death by Devotion:Tragic Tale of Scientology Celeb. Cntr. Brainchild Yvonne Jent
I knew Yvonne from the early days at CC in downtown LA. She befriended me more than once ( as in saved my ass from getting busted hard ).
Two stories I heard that I hope someone like Face can confirm or debunk.
One is that she came to LA to start CC to get away from Ron hitting on her - which she really did NOT like. And the other is that she started CC by herself with an old desk in the parking structure. What CC became under her was obvious to all!
All of my first hand memories of Yvonne are of one the very finest people I have ever known.
The last time I saw her was at Flag skimming trash out of the pool.
Someone said she was on the RPF. Broke my heart.
I knew Yvonne from the early days at CC in downtown LA. She befriended me more than once ( as in saved my ass from getting busted hard ).
Two stories I heard that I hope someone like Face can confirm or debunk.
One is that she came to LA to start CC to get away from Ron hitting on her - which she really did NOT like. And the other is that she started CC by herself with an old desk in the parking structure. What CC became under her was obvious to all!
All of my first hand memories of Yvonne are of one the very finest people I have ever known.
The last time I saw her was at Flag skimming trash out of the pool.
Someone said she was on the RPF. Broke my heart.
Ogsonofgroo
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My friends sometimes wonder why I cry a bit reading people's stories occassionally... Now some know why...
Oh man.
Besides Yvonne, during the time I was Flag Crew at the FLB, another of my fellow Crew Members died of Brain Cancer…Ralph Soma. I liked Ralph and so did just about everyone else…he was a real fine, fun feller. He and his wife, Rhaylin (sp?) were good, decent folks and had a baby shortly before he died. I’ve often wondered over these many years what has happened to Ralph’s beloved wife and child…and fervently hope that they are out and living well.
Ralph, like Yvonne, was not treated for the Cancer. The sad thing is that both Yvonne and Ralph became quasi non-persons that just disappeared one day and a month or so later the Crew was informed that they had passed on and a bland, short memorial service was cobbled together that “upstats” could attend.
I had several chats with Yvonne shortly before she was shunted off to die. As always she was smiling and spoke most properly and discreetly in her lilting voice, kind manner and lovely eyes…eyes that I had first gazed into over 12 years before, and years before she Founded Celebrity Center…eyes that, at our last meeting, could not mask the hurt of the betrayal, nor the tears from her physical and emotional pain...tears that she bravely fought back.
Yvonne ended our last chat by placing her hand softly on my cheek while saying, “You are such a dear, Face.”
I miss her and love her to this day.
Face
My friends sometimes wonder why I cry a bit reading people's stories occassionally... Now some know why...
Oh man.
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Interesting story and an indication of the rewards that await scientology's super acheivers.
Interesting story and an indication of the rewards that await scientology's super acheivers.
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Re: 'Death by Devotion:Tragic Tale of Scientology Celeb. Cntr. Brainchild Yvonne Jent
Yes. The mind drifts aimlessly across decades of Scn Superstars that rose to heights of OT perfection and fell into ignominious disgrace moments later. The first few being...
John McMaster, Bill Robertson, Quentin Hubbard, David Mayo, Yvonne & Heber, Rinder,Rathbun, Mary Sue Hubbard and many others....
Scientology appears, in my experience, to be the only religion that is capable of robbing you of your money, your health and your sanity...whilst pushing you into an early grave. And simultaneously convening a Committee of Evidence against you to convict you of the crime of allowing Scientology to kill you, resulting in your stats not being up.
Yes. The mind drifts aimlessly across decades of Scn Superstars that rose to heights of OT perfection and fell into ignominious disgrace moments later. The first few being...
John McMaster, Bill Robertson, Quentin Hubbard, David Mayo, Yvonne & Heber, Rinder,Rathbun, Mary Sue Hubbard and many others....
Scientology appears, in my experience, to be the only religion that is capable of robbing you of your money, your health and your sanity...whilst pushing you into an early grave. And simultaneously convening a Committee of Evidence against you to convict you of the crime of allowing Scientology to kill you, resulting in your stats not being up.
I told you I was trouble
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I am sitting here absolutely appalled, I didn't know she had developed a brain tumour, extreme stress doesn't help in these matters!
I don't know whether I am angry or sad ... both I suppose.
Scientologists are led to believe that they are "the natural aristocracy of the spiritual universe" ....... I could reword that slightly to be accurate.
Sad, sad, sad.
I am sitting here absolutely appalled, I didn't know she had developed a brain tumour, extreme stress doesn't help in these matters!
I don't know whether I am angry or sad ... both I suppose.
Scientologists are led to believe that they are "the natural aristocracy of the spiritual universe" ....... I could reword that slightly to be accurate.
Sad, sad, sad.
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Most who do this kind of work are adding it either to their "resume", for becoming "eligible" to do the OT levels, or to even get back on lines. Or get "okay" to go to one org or another for their next service.
One of L. Ron Hubbard's worst "gifts" to humanity, is Hubbard's Liability Formula step 2 :
"Deliver an effective blow to the enemies of the group despite personal danger."
In the GO days, I remember people being suggested to check with the GO for a GO listed local "enemy" that one could do one's Liability step 2 against.
Hubbard has institutionalized his inhumanity and mostly official Scientology follows Dead Hubbard's script/rules and Hubbard's "timeless tech."
The more I read this excellent chat site, the MORE I see the harshest anti Scientology critics have been correct.
Scientology is Xenu's Wall of Fire R6 Implanted body thetans high volume exorcism therapy.
I wish someone would do a "Wall of Fire" "Xenu" "Body Thetans" "4th Dynamic Engram" for Idiots book.
The Advanced Orgs today are there to help run out the 4th Dynamic Engram, and THAT is still the biggest target of the Hubbard years of psychotherapy (soul therapy) research.
"Body Thetan" exorcism should be explained simply to everyone who asks "What is Scientology?"
Answer: Scientology is really trying to deal with the effects of the 4th dynamic engram. And THAT means "body thetan" exorcism!
The more people gotten UP to the "body thetan" exorcism levels, the MORE the effects of the 4th dynamic engram (Xenu's hydrogen bombing volcanoes mega mass murdering then implanting the billions of souls with the R6 implants, creating the "body thetan" and "body thetan cluster" mental problems that all human beings suffer from today).
Scientology is trying to get high volume exorcism done, to clean up people's heads/minds of all the snippets of R6 implants coming out of the minds of all the STILL loose and active "body thetans" that infest ALL OF US!
All the controversies relating to Scientology, divert attention OFF of what they really are trying to accomplish spiritually (which only ex members have the luxury of explaining, since existing members are still caught in the penalty traps Hubbard laid for any members who explain the Xenu "body thetans" exorcism theory.
I wonder what's going through the minds of the OSA bots attacking article after article. The entheta has grown so much over the last years, do they really believe that this is a sign that Scientology is winning?
Most who do this kind of work are adding it either to their "resume", for becoming "eligible" to do the OT levels, or to even get back on lines. Or get "okay" to go to one org or another for their next service.
One of L. Ron Hubbard's worst "gifts" to humanity, is Hubbard's Liability Formula step 2 :
"Deliver an effective blow to the enemies of the group despite personal danger."
In the GO days, I remember people being suggested to check with the GO for a GO listed local "enemy" that one could do one's Liability step 2 against.
Hubbard has institutionalized his inhumanity and mostly official Scientology follows Dead Hubbard's script/rules and Hubbard's "timeless tech."
The more I read this excellent chat site, the MORE I see the harshest anti Scientology critics have been correct.
Scientology is Xenu's Wall of Fire R6 Implanted body thetans high volume exorcism therapy.
I wish someone would do a "Wall of Fire" "Xenu" "Body Thetans" "4th Dynamic Engram" for Idiots book.
The Advanced Orgs today are there to help run out the 4th Dynamic Engram, and THAT is still the biggest target of the Hubbard years of psychotherapy (soul therapy) research.
"Body Thetan" exorcism should be explained simply to everyone who asks "What is Scientology?"
Answer: Scientology is really trying to deal with the effects of the 4th dynamic engram. And THAT means "body thetan" exorcism!
The more people gotten UP to the "body thetan" exorcism levels, the MORE the effects of the 4th dynamic engram (Xenu's hydrogen bombing volcanoes mega mass murdering then implanting the billions of souls with the R6 implants, creating the "body thetan" and "body thetan cluster" mental problems that all human beings suffer from today).
Scientology is trying to get high volume exorcism done, to clean up people's heads/minds of all the snippets of R6 implants coming out of the minds of all the STILL loose and active "body thetans" that infest ALL OF US!
All the controversies relating to Scientology, divert attention OFF of what they really are trying to accomplish spiritually (which only ex members have the luxury of explaining, since existing members are still caught in the penalty traps Hubbard laid for any members who explain the Xenu "body thetans" exorcism theory.
afaceinthecrowd
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Re: 'Death by Devotion:Tragic Tale of Scientology Celeb. Cntr. Brainchild Yvonne Jent
I’ve read some stories on the Net (don’t remember where or from whom) about El Ron hitting on her in the early SO days in the Med (I wasn’t there in first couple of years). I think maybe Dart or Alan wrote some about it, as well as one or two others. Those stories re: El Ron and Yvonne makes sense to me…knowing Hisself and Yvonne. She was not a “come on” in any way or a “vamp”…she was, inside and out, head to toe, an absolutely stunningly sincere, brilliant and attractive woman and El Ron was…well El Ron was Hisself. Having known both El Ron and Yvonne I, personally, believe this story to be credible. Yvonne consistently put the best interests and well being of others before herself. And, she was nobodies fool...'cepting, like me, El Ron's.
I wasn’t in LA when Yvonne started CC from nothing but her vision, grace and determination. Purple Haze was there near the beginning and Lakey has posted a detailed narrative on ESMB about some of CC’s early days.
I saw Yvonne cleaning the pool at the Ft. Harrison, too…it was gut wrenching and heartbreaking to see for all that knew her. She was not on the RPF…she was doing self assigned “amends” for her “Overts” and “Transgressions” over the decade or so she was the Commanding Officer, Celebrity Centre.
Thank you for this post, Toady. You, Ogs and so many of all y’all are the folks whose voices continue to “draw me out”.
Yvonne was truly one of the finest persons I have ever known, as well.
More later...my heart is aching right now.
Face
I’ve read some stories on the Net (don’t remember where or from whom) about El Ron hitting on her in the early SO days in the Med (I wasn’t there in first couple of years). I think maybe Dart or Alan wrote some about it, as well as one or two others. Those stories re: El Ron and Yvonne makes sense to me…knowing Hisself and Yvonne. She was not a “come on” in any way or a “vamp”…she was, inside and out, head to toe, an absolutely stunningly sincere, brilliant and attractive woman and El Ron was…well El Ron was Hisself. Having known both El Ron and Yvonne I, personally, believe this story to be credible. Yvonne consistently put the best interests and well being of others before herself. And, she was nobodies fool...'cepting, like me, El Ron's.
I wasn’t in LA when Yvonne started CC from nothing but her vision, grace and determination. Purple Haze was there near the beginning and Lakey has posted a detailed narrative on ESMB about some of CC’s early days.
I saw Yvonne cleaning the pool at the Ft. Harrison, too…it was gut wrenching and heartbreaking to see for all that knew her. She was not on the RPF…she was doing self assigned “amends” for her “Overts” and “Transgressions” over the decade or so she was the Commanding Officer, Celebrity Centre.
Thank you for this post, Toady. You, Ogs and so many of all y’all are the folks whose voices continue to “draw me out”.
Yvonne was truly one of the finest persons I have ever known, as well.
More later...my heart is aching right now.
Face
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Its win win all the way with that logic
eL Ron said
when "The Master Hand" is running the show its all calm and peace.
Thats why it was so calm & peaceful when eLRon was on guard.
Yes…actually in the their tragically skewed “World View”, Scns have been inculcated with the El Ron “Datum” that when you are “Winning”, going “Up Scale” as “Theta the Solver” and bringing “Sanity” to a “World Gone Mad” from “Whole Track Implants”, “SP’s” are “Attracted” and “Attack” which is an "Indicator" of your “Success”.
That's why, as the story goes, El Ron went "Fabian" and founded the SO to "Put in Ethics" in this "Sector".
Face
Its win win all the way with that logic
eL Ron said
when "The Master Hand" is running the show its all calm and peace.
Thats why it was so calm & peaceful when eLRon was on guard.
Free to shine
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Re: 'Death by Devotion:Tragic Tale of Scientology Celeb. Cntr. Brainchild Yvonne Jent
I borrowed this from Janis's FB, I hope she doesn't mind. (Click for larger version.)
Besides Yvonne, during the time I was Flag Crew at the FLB, another of my fellow Crew Members died of Brain Cancer…Ralph Soma. I liked Ralph and so did just about everyone else…he was a real fine, fun feller. He and his wife, Rhaylin (sp?) were good, decent folks and had a baby shortly before he died. I’ve often wondered over these many years what has happened to Ralph’s beloved wife and child…and fervently hope that they are out and living well.
Ralph, like Yvonne, was not treated for the Cancer. The sad thing is that both Yvonne and Ralph became quasi non-persons that just disappeared one day and a month or so later the Crew was informed that they had passed on and a bland, short memorial service was cobbled together that “upstats” could attend.
I had several chats with Yvonne shortly before she was shunted off to die. As always she was smiling and spoke most properly and discreetly in her lilting voice, kind manner and lovely eyes…eyes that I had first gazed into over 12 years before, and years before she Founded Celebrity Center…eyes that, at our last meeting, could not mask the hurt of the betrayal, nor the tears from her physical and emotional pain...tears that she bravely fought back.
Yvonne ended our last chat by placing her hand softly on my cheek while saying, “You are such a dear, Face.”
I miss her and love her to this day.
Face
I borrowed this from Janis's FB, I hope she doesn't mind. (Click for larger version.)
