The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[afaceinthecrowd]

Re: More Shameless Promotion

Bingo!

You know your stuff, Rog!

And done intentionally. Low afternoon light through one north-facing window. I have taken a number of very acceptable photographs throughout the years that were done as nothing more than learning/experimenting with the equipment.

The little cutie is featured again today on her mom's blog spot: <http://www.jessicaswatts.com/blog/2011/10/daylin-1-month-personal/

... if anyone is interested.

Sweet, Sweet, Sweet.

 

[Smilla]

Re: More Shameless Promotion

Bingo!

You know your stuff, Rog!

And done intentionally. Low afternoon light through one north-facing window. I have taken a number of very acceptable photographs throughout the years that were done as nothing more than learning/experimenting with the equipment.

The little cutie is featured again today on her mom's blog spot: <http://www.jessicaswatts.com/blog/2011/10/daylin-1-month-personal/

... if anyone is interested.

Very nice photos and she's a little sweetie

 

[FoTi]

Re: More Shameless Promotion

Bingo!

You know your stuff, Rog!

And done intentionally. Low afternoon light through one north-facing window. I have taken a number of very acceptable photographs throughout the years that were done as nothing more than learning/experimenting with the equipment.

The little cutie is featured again today on her mom's blog spot: <http://www.jessicaswatts.com/blog/2011/10/daylin-1-month-personal/

... if anyone is interested.

She is so adorable ....and her eyes...they are awesome.....enchanting.

 

[Leon]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I love kids, but regretfully I can't quite get myself to go all gushy over baby photos. Yesterday in the supermarket queue the lady in front of me had a niggly squaling baby under one arm, an older boy of about 3 being a nuisance while clambering all over the trolley laden with stuff and all the while she was trying to get the stuff out of the trolley and onto the checkout desk. So I held out my arms and took the baby off her for a few minutes. The baba calmed down at once and was fascinated by who this old bugger was that was holding him/her now and proceeded to entertain me with smiles and coos and gurgles. Once her shopping was done I handed the little one back again. Fun fun fun.

 

[Ted]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I love kids, but regretfully I can't quite get myself to go all gushy over baby photos. Yesterday in the supermarket queue the lady in front of me had a niggly squaling baby under one arm, an older boy of about 3 being a nuisance while clambering all over the trolley laden with stuff and all the while she was trying to get the stuff out of the trolley and onto the checkout desk. So I held out my arms and took the baby off her for a few minutes. The baba calmed down at once and was fascinated by who this old bugger was that was holding him/her now and proceeded to entertain me with smiles and coos and gurgles. Once her shopping was done I handed the little one back again. Fun fun fun.

Lean, you old fart, that baby's response just tells me that you must be a fine auditor.

 

[RogerB]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Originally Posted by Leon
I love kids, but regretfully I can't quite get myself to go all gushy over baby photos. Yesterday in the supermarket queue the lady in front of me had a niggly squaling baby under one arm, an older boy of about 3 being a nuisance while clambering all over the trolley laden with stuff and all the while she was trying to get the stuff out of the trolley and onto the checkout desk. So I held out my arms and took the baby off her for a few minutes. The baba calmed down at once and was fascinated by who this old bugger was that was holding him/her now and proceeded to entertain me with smiles and coos and gurgles. Once her shopping was done I handed the little one back again. Fun fun fun.

Lean, you old fart, that baby's response just tells me that you must be a fine auditor.

Who'da thought? The old bugger is a softy after all

Seriously though, the youngsters are fun . . . with my whiskers, I nowadays tend to attract their attention, and so I smile to them appreciatively and give them a wave. It cheers them up enormously.

Sometimes, when they get very inquisitive, I keep my lips closed and rapidly puff and relax one cheek continuously (like a flutter) . . . it makes my moustache wave like a bird wing

That really sends them into hysterics

R

 

[Leon]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

If you watch a baby closely from birth on you'll notice that the very first item on life's agenda is to get mother under control. It's fascinating to see them find mother's buttons and then push them whenever needed.

 

[Ted]

Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness

Who'da thought? The old bugger is a softy after all

Seriously though, the youngsters are fun . . . with my whiskers, I nowadays tend to attract their attention, and so I smile to them appreciatively and give them a wave. It cheers them up enormously.

Sometimes, when they get very inquisitive, I keep my lips closed and rapidly puff and relax one cheek continuously (like a flutter) . . . it makes my moustache wave like a bird wing

That really sends them into hysterics

R

The very young ones tend to watch me because I enjoy watching them. We spot each other as soon as I walk in the room, even with total strangers. I enjoy the connection. And I recognize them at their core, and as the "pretense" of being a baby. We connect in a special way. I recall being that young once upon a time. It's good fun.

Unfortunately, there are a young ones who are so distressed over their present status, typically due to having spiritual dolts as parents, or getting mixed up with other kids and their now-I'm-supposed-to's, or TV and advertising, that we fail to connect due to the distractions. By the time they enter kindergarten most of them are lost to a quick theta exchange without some concentrated effort on my part.

I am giving away a young lady at her wedding tomorrow. More woggy stuff, right?

Living, it can be good fun with lots of choices on how to manifest.

I used to object to Alan referring to his days as a footballer as chasing bags of wind in his underwear. Then he would go off talking about responsibility, taking one's next step, and all that good stuff. I recognize when a salesman is directing my attention to what he wants to sell. Sure, I can see that windbag/underwear point of view, but why limit the experience to that?

My game was baseball. In that I found much more than taking a stick to hit a horsehide covered ball of string, in my knickers. The game, any good game, presents an opportunity to put one's skills on display with integrity, craftsmanship, love, understanding, commitment, and so on. Any virtue you care to plug in will likely work.

The games are also venues for a learning experience. Baseball taught me patience, drive, taking calculated chances, speed, competitive spirit, some politics, showmanship, and more.

Tomorrow's wedding is another venue to put such theta qualities on display. I am standing in as "Deputy Dad" for a young lady I have known since she was 12. Both of her parents are gone now, and I have the honor of standing in to give her away.

Anyway, this is my philosophy. This is what I do.

Maybe I will have some wedding pictures to post--again, for you ex-SO and SO and staff. Just a reminder that there is life--lots of life--after and without Church of Scientology.

We'll see about those wedding pictures. It's been said that I look like Frank Sinatra in my tux.

 

[Terril park]

Re: Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness

The very young ones tend to watch me because I enjoy watching them. We spot each other as soon as I walk in the room, even with total strangers. I enjoy the connection. And I recognize them at their core, and as the "pretense" of being a baby. We connect in a special way. I recall being that young once upon a time. It's good fun.

Unfortunately, there are a young ones who are so distressed over their present status, typically due to having spiritual dolts as parents, or getting mixed up with other kids and their now-I'm-supposed-to's, or TV and advertising, that we fail to connect due to the distractions. By the time they enter kindergarten most of them are lost to a quick theta exchange without some concentrated effort on my part.

I am giving away a young lady at her wedding tomorrow. More woggy stuff, right?

Living, it can be good fun with lots of choices on how to manifest.

I used to object to Alan referring to his days as a footballer as chasing bags of wind in his underwear. Then he would go off talking about responsibility, taking one's next step, and all that good stuff. I recognize when a salesman is directing my attention to what he wants to sell. Sure, I can see that windbag/underwear point of view, but why limit the experience to that?

My game was baseball. In that I found much more than taking a stick to hit a horsehide covered ball of string, in my knickers. The game, any good game, presents an opportunity to put one's skills on display with integrity, craftsmanship, love, understanding, commitment, and so on. Any virtue you care to plug in will likely work.

The games are also venues for a learning experience. Baseball taught me patience, drive, taking calculated chances, speed, competitive spirit, some politics, showmanship, and more.

Tomorrow's wedding is another venue to put such theta qualities on display. I am standing in as "Deputy Dad" for a young lady I have known since she was 12. Both of her parents are gone now, and I have the honor of standing in to give her away.

Anyway, this is my philosophy. This is what I do.

Maybe I will have some wedding pictures to post--again, for you ex-SO and SO and staff. Just a reminder that there is life--lots of life--after and without Church of Scientology.

We'll see about those wedding pictures. It's been said that I look like Frank Sinatra in my tux.

Games are good

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness

Games are good

A great way to get into communication with a baby or toddler occurs in a restaurant situation when the child is in the booth directly in front of you and facing you. Often, a kid will stare my way and I'll use the kid's game, "peekaboo" to engage him or her. That is the game where you cover your eyes with your hands and pretend that you can't see them and they can't see you. SUDDENLY, very quickly, you remove your hands from your eyes and the kid will do one of two things, either cover his or her eyes and mimic you or just start laughing like crazy. Usually they do a combination of both.

It almost always works out that way. As to the parents, most of them seem to appreciate someone taking an interest but after a short time, they try and get their kid to stop the game, saying something like, "Let the nice man alone so he can eat." I always tell them that its okay and that their baby or toddler is beautiful and a lot of fun.

Being around young children is a lift for the spirit (usually). I read several novels by Dostoyevski and he always had the hero of the novel frequently hanging around with a group of young children. His bio mentions how big a part of his life being with children was. He claimed to have obtained both wisdom and inspiration from this.

In the old days when I was a kid, around 8 through11 there was a radio show which I believe was hosted by Art Linkletter. They had a panel of young children about my same age and the panel was asked questions about much of the stuff which we discuss here on this thread. The answers given by the kids were often brilliant. There was a naivity, honesty and untainted viewpoint behind most of the answers which often made them quite profound. When a child gave an especially inciteful answer, he or she was applauded quite heavily. It was a "feel good" type of show.

Working with children and exchanging ideas with them is usually uplifting and energizing. The nutiness in society has usually not been implanted into their thought patterns yet and you get a look at a child's universe which is really quite enlightening.
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

children

[video=youtube;nNodf6HdAUA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNodf6HdAUA&feature=related[/video]

 

[FoTi]

Re: Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness

The very young ones tend to watch me because I enjoy watching them. We spot each other as soon as I walk in the room, even with total strangers. I enjoy the connection. And I recognize them at their core, and as the "pretense" of being a baby. We connect in a special way. I recall being that young once upon a time. It's good fun.

Unfortunately, there are a young ones who are so distressed over their present status, typically due to having spiritual dolts as parents, or getting mixed up with other kids and their now-I'm-supposed-to's, or TV and advertising, that we fail to connect due to the distractions. By the time they enter kindergarten most of them are lost to a quick theta exchange without some concentrated effort on my part.

I am giving away a young lady at her wedding tomorrow. More woggy stuff, right?

Living, it can be good fun with lots of choices on how to manifest.

I used to object to Alan referring to his days as a footballer as chasing bags of wind in his underwear. Then he would go off talking about responsibility, taking one's next step, and all that good stuff. I recognize when a salesman is directing my attention to what he wants to sell. Sure, I can see that windbag/underwear point of view, but why limit the experience to that?

My game was baseball. In that I found much more than taking a stick to hit a horsehide covered ball of string, in my knickers. The game, any good game, presents an opportunity to put one's skills on display with integrity, craftsmanship, love, understanding, commitment, and so on. Any virtue you care to plug in will likely work.

The games are also venues for a learning experience. Baseball taught me patience, drive, taking calculated chances, speed, competitive spirit, some politics, showmanship, and more.

Tomorrow's wedding is another venue to put such theta qualities on display. I am standing in as "Deputy Dad" for a young lady I have known since she was 12. Both of her parents are gone now, and I have the honor of standing in to give her away.

Anyway, this is my philosophy. This is what I do.

Maybe I will have some wedding pictures to post--again, for you ex-SO and SO and staff. Just a reminder that there is life--lots of life--after and without Church of Scientology.

We'll see about those wedding pictures. It's been said that I look like Frank Sinatra in my tux.

Looking forward to those wedding pics.

 

[lkwdblds]

Re: children

[video=youtube;nNodf6HdAUA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNodf6HdAUA&feature=related[/video]

I'll see your W.C. Fields and raise you one Michael Jackson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShM9K9j6zJg&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLDF520B11DCC782B9

BTW, W. C. Fields was one of the funiest people who ever lived. Though he certainly was not Jewish, he had his own unique "shtick" which he promoted so well, almost like Jack Benny promoted his stinginess when he really was not stingy.
Lakey

 

[RogerB]

Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I see from this flow chart, $cn is now a "mainstream" religion

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

The Backdoor to Machu Picchu

from the NY Times.



[video]http://video.nytimes.com/video/2011/06/24/travel/100000000874911/the-backdoor-to-machu-picchu.html[/video]

 

[smartone]

Re: More Shameless Promotion

Here I am to change the subject once again!


In the days of yore, I had the idea I would like to be a photographer for National Geographic. Traveling the world, rubbing elbows with the people, making friends, sending pictures to the less-traveled folks at home... It was an idea to occupy my mind while we were exchanging hot and heavy metal objects with some Asian natives. At the time I figured someone else would write the articles. Writing was not my thing.

The photography thing never worked out even though I have shot some weddings, portraits, and other stuff. I just never knew how to pursue it professionally. The writing thing, thanks to the internet, has become something of interest. And, I have severely edited several books. Presently working on another. The writing is enjoyable because I think that one day I might just communicate(!)--you know, like really reach someone with a meaningful message.

As for the photography, I lost interest when our kids grew up, and making a buck demanded too much of my attention. With today's cameras any numb-nuts can snap an in-focus, correctly-exposed picture. I find nothing special in that. This puts a lot of people in a position similar to that of other craftsmen like, perhaps, painters and painting: Sure, you can do it yourself, but do you want the hassle? Do you want the expense of all the tools that you will buy only for that one job? Is you hand study enough to draw a straight line?

You get the idea. Quality work is still hard to come by in whatever field.

Here's an endorsement: Recently I had my trusty Nikons refurbed by Kiwi Camera, Winter Park, FL (407-539-2731) I was so happy with the service that I am telling everyone. The Nikons are old friends brought back to life-like-nearly-new. A few small wear marks just enhance the beauty of the tool. Contact Michael. He's the owner and super-tech. Any make of camera, film of any size, or modern electronics, he does it all. Yeah, the modern stuff does break down.

Enough preamble. Here's our baby girl at just a few days plus 3 weeks. Being the proud grandparent that I am, you will have to suffer me this. Beyond that grandparent thing--we all love to show off the kids--I do hope some SO and ex-SO will look this over. There is life after Scientology--lots of it. Don't lose out. Walk away. Keep your desire to help, acknowledge your good will. Invest in something or someone who won't be ripping you off. Family is a good place to start.

Ted, she is so precious bless her! Why do they grow up so fast?

 

[Ted]

Re: More Shameless Promotion

Ted, she is so precious bless her! Why do they grow up so fast?

Grow up they do. Whether that can be deemed to be fast or not, I think, depends on mom's rest/exhaustion factor.

But yes, I do appreciate the sentiment in the oft-asked question: Why do they grow up so fast?

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

long life predictability

Faster walkers live longer. University of Pittsburgh researchers crunched numbers from nine different studies including almost 35,000 subjects ages 65 or older. The result: For each gait speed increase of 0.1 meters per second came a corresponding 12 percent decrease in the risk of death.

The average speed was 3 feet per second (about two miles an hour). Those who walked slower than 2 feet per second (1.36 miles per hour) had an increased risk of dying. Those who walked faster than 3.3 feet per second (2.25 miles per hour) or faster survived longer than would be predicted simply by age or gender.

A 2006 report in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that among adults ages 70 to 79, those who couldn't walk a quarter mile were less likely to be alive six years later. They were also more likely to suffer illness and disability before death. An earlier study of men ages 71 to 93 found that those who could walk two miles a day had half the risk of heart attack of those who could walk only a quarter mile or less.

Countless studies have found that social isolation is bad for your health, while having friends and social engagement is good. One of the more surprising findings in The Longevity Project (a book about an eight-decade study of 1,500 subjects all born around 1910) is that religious women lived longer -- primarily, as it turned out, because of the social connectedness of their faith-based lifestyle. That is, they worshipped with others, joined committees, and engaged in social outreach, from clothing drives to soup kitchens.

"There was a clear, similar trend among people who had civic engagements, were active in their communities, volunteered, and otherwise stayed connected, whether with families, friends, or coworkers," says Leslie R. Martin, a professor of psychology at La Sierra University in Riverside, California, who's the coauthor of The Longevity Project.

Popular wisdom holds that late-life babies are tougher on a mother's aging body. If so, that graying hair mixed with newborn pink or blue reflects a silver lining: According to the New England Centenarian Study, a woman who naturally conceives and bears a child after the age of 40 has a four times greater chance of living to 100 than women who don't. Moms who give birth naturally at 35-plus also make it to 100 in larger numbers than younger counterparts.

It's not the act of bearing a child late in life that extends lifespan, however. Researchers instead believe that being able to conceive and give birth in your late 30s or 40s is probably an indicator that your reproductive system is aging slowly -- and that therefore the rest of your body is likely to be aging slowly, as well.

A surprising 2011 Albert Einstein College of Medicine study of 477 adults ages 95 to 112 found that these solid-gold agers had no better health habits overall than a comparison group born at the same time that had been studied in the 1970s. One difference: Those in long-lived group were much less likely to be obese.

Both male and female centenarians in the study were overweight at about the same rates as those in the shorter-lived group. But only 4.5 percent of the long-lived men and 9.6 of the women were obese, compared to 12.1 percent and 16.2 percent, respectively, of the younger-lived controls. ("Normal weight" is a Body Mass Index -- or BMI, a measure of height in proportion to weight -- in the range of 18 to 24; "overweight" is 25 to 30; over 30 is "obese.")

This finding echoes other studies showing the greatest risks of death among those who are obese or underweight at age 65 (BMI under 18.5), compared to those of normal weight or slight overweight. A 2011 study at Loma Linda University in Southern California found that men over age 75 with a BMI over 27.4 lived nearly four years less than those with a lower BMI. For women over age 75, a BMI over 27.4 led to a two-year shorter lifespan. Studies of centenarians show that men who reach 100 are almost always lean (more so than women).

Luckily, this clue is one you can control. "Since you can't be sure if you'll live to 100, I wouldn't take the chance of ignoring the lifestyle interventions that we know will at least put you in the half the population who die after age 80 -- starting with watching weight and being sure to exercise," says the senior author of the Albert Einstein study, Nir Barzilai, director of the college's Institute for Aging Research.

"What-o-meres?" you ask. Telomeres are protective DNA sequences at the ends of chromosomes that gradually shorten as cells divide. (Pioneering telomere researcher Elizabeth Blackburn of the University of California-San Francisco compares them to shoelace caps.) Eventually the telomeres become so short that cells stop dividing, a condition called senescence, creating the effects we recognize as aging in related tissue.

Scientists are still unraveling the key role telomeres seem to play in aging, cancer, and other biological processes, but this much is clear: The longer your telomeres, the more time you're apt to have left. A 2010 Italian study reported that cancer-free people with shorter telomeres were more likely to develop cancer within ten years than those with longer telomeres, for example.

Some studies show that removing chronic stress, not smoking, and eating a diet rich in omega-3 fatty acids can improve telomere length. Those centenarians with hyperactive telomere-making apparatus can probably thank their genes, though.

New blood tests are now being marketed directly to consumers, purporting to predict longevity based on telomere length. But critics caution that there aren't standards for measuring telomere length and that there can be such variability in telomeres that it's hard to predict much of anything from a sample.

 

[RogerB]

Re: long life predictability

Faster walkers live longer. University of Pittsburgh researchers crunched numbers from nine different studies including almost 35,000 subjects ages 65 or older. The result: For each gait speed increase of 0.1 meters per second came a corresponding 12 percent decrease in the risk of death.

The average speed was 3 feet per second (about two miles an hour). Those who walked slower than 2 feet per second (1.36 miles per hour) had an increased risk of dying. Those who walked faster than 3.3 feet per second (2.25 miles per hour) or faster survived longer than would be predicted simply by age or gender.

A 2006 report in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that among adults ages 70 to 79, those who couldn't walk a quarter mile were less likely to be alive six years later. They were also more likely to suffer illness and disability before death. An earlier study of men ages 71 to 93 found that those who could walk two miles a day had half the risk of heart attack of those who could walk only a quarter mile or less.

Countless studies have found that social isolation is bad for your health, while having friends and social engagement is good. One of the more surprising findings in The Longevity Project (a book about an eight-decade study of 1,500 subjects all born around 1910) is that religious women lived longer -- primarily, as it turned out, because of the social connectedness of their faith-based lifestyle. That is, they worshipped with others, joined committees, and engaged in social outreach, from clothing drives to soup kitchens.

"There was a clear, similar trend among people who had civic engagements, were active in their communities, volunteered, and otherwise stayed connected, whether with families, friends, or coworkers," says Leslie R. Martin, a professor of psychology at La Sierra University in Riverside, California, who's the coauthor of The Longevity Project.

Popular wisdom holds that late-life babies are tougher on a mother's aging body. If so, that graying hair mixed with newborn pink or blue reflects a silver lining: According to the New England Centenarian Study, a woman who naturally conceives and bears a child after the age of 40 has a four times greater chance of living to 100 than women who don't. Moms who give birth naturally at 35-plus also make it to 100 in larger numbers than younger counterparts.

It's not the act of bearing a child late in life that extends lifespan, however. Researchers instead believe that being able to conceive and give birth in your late 30s or 40s is probably an indicator that your reproductive system is aging slowly -- and that therefore the rest of your body is likely to be aging slowly, as well.

A surprising 2011 Albert Einstein College of Medicine study of 477 adults ages 95 to 112 found that these solid-gold agers had no better health habits overall than a comparison group born at the same time that had been studied in the 1970s. One difference: Those in long-lived group were much less likely to be obese.

Both male and female centenarians in the study were overweight at about the same rates as those in the shorter-lived group. But only 4.5 percent of the long-lived men and 9.6 of the women were obese, compared to 12.1 percent and 16.2 percent, respectively, of the younger-lived controls. ("Normal weight" is a Body Mass Index -- or BMI, a measure of height in proportion to weight -- in the range of 18 to 24; "overweight" is 25 to 30; over 30 is "obese.")

This finding echoes other studies showing the greatest risks of death among those who are obese or underweight at age 65 (BMI under 18.5), compared to those of normal weight or slight overweight. A 2011 study at Loma Linda University in Southern California found that men over age 75 with a BMI over 27.4 lived nearly four years less than those with a lower BMI. For women over age 75, a BMI over 27.4 led to a two-year shorter lifespan. Studies of centenarians show that men who reach 100 are almost always lean (more so than women).

Luckily, this clue is one you can control. "Since you can't be sure if you'll live to 100, I wouldn't take the chance of ignoring the lifestyle interventions that we know will at least put you in the half the population who die after age 80 -- starting with watching weight and being sure to exercise," says the senior author of the Albert Einstein study, Nir Barzilai, director of the college's Institute for Aging Research.

"What-o-meres?" you ask. Telomeres are protective DNA sequences at the ends of chromosomes that gradually shorten as cells divide. (Pioneering telomere researcher Elizabeth Blackburn of the University of California-San Francisco compares them to shoelace caps.) Eventually the telomeres become so short that cells stop dividing, a condition called senescence, creating the effects we recognize as aging in related tissue.

Scientists are still unraveling the key role telomeres seem to play in aging, cancer, and other biological processes, but this much is clear: The longer your telomeres, the more time you're apt to have left. A 2010 Italian study reported that cancer-free people with shorter telomeres were more likely to develop cancer within ten years than those with longer telomeres, for example.

Some studies show that removing chronic stress, not smoking, and eating a diet rich in omega-3 fatty acids can improve telomere length. Those centenarians with hyperactive telomere-making apparatus can probably thank their genes, though.

New blood tests are now being marketed directly to consumers, purporting to predict longevity based on telomere length. But critics caution that there aren't standards for measuring telomere length and that there can be such variability in telomeres that it's hard to predict much of anything from a sample.

Yeh . . . I read variations of this material in different reports . . . and with regard to the "speed of walking being a factor of how long you live" ? ? ? what stupid research shit!

The slow walkers are walking slow because they already have health impediments!

Seems to me the think that came to the conclusion that faster walking is a clue to living longer came from an ivory tower type who him/herself never got out and did it themselves

AS in, arthritis screws up your walking . . . so what do you expect? The guy is already suffering bodily decay!

Oh, and they get government funding to think these thoughts!

R

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Re: long life predictability

The slow walkers are walking slow because they already have health impediments!

Which reminds me of "The Slow Talkers of America." A Bob and Ray classic:

[video=youtube;ktYwuw9Mnjo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktYwuw9Mnjo[/video]

and on the subject of talking....

[video=youtube;O9s8U0O0XPE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9s8U0O0XPE&NR=1[/video]