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MrNobody said:
Hugh? Whaddaya mean? An "OT" with an tuning fork in his hand is still only someone who believes he's "OT" - nothing different from that "cleared cannibal" crap.
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what do i mean?

well perhaps if i respond to your question it will but fall on the questioners deaf ears

but...

other readers might take some interest in what i might say

first, however, i'd like to ask if anyone might like to take a stab at deriving meaning from the statement

and i'll even give you a clue...

as many of you know, if you take two tuning forks and hold one in each hand then strike one of them against the table and hold it up then the unstruck fork will start to vibrate as well...
 
Commander Birdsong said:
what do i mean?

well perhaps if i respond to your question it will but fall on the questioners deaf ears

but...

other readers might take some interest in what i might say

first, however, i'd like to ask if anyone might like to take a stab at deriving meaning from the statement

and i'll even give you a clue...

as many of you know, if you take two tuning forks and hold one in each hand then strike one of them against the table and hold it up then the unstruck fork will start to vibrate as well...
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Yes that is called sympathetic vibration. Been known since the dawn of Western music. Why do you suppose all those old old stringed instruments had separate sets of strings sometimes? Yes, to enhance the sound, not to be played on. I guess they would be called hurdy-gurdies, but I ferget.
 
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There is a science associated with all this, called "Cymatics". Even has a Wikipedia. When I first ran across it some years ago, a gentleman named Hans Jenny would cover a steal plate with sand and then play sound into the plate. The sand would vibrate into various Sacred Geometry configurations, particularly with the Om sound.
 
Winston Smith said:
Yes that is called sympathetic vibration. Been known since the dawn of Western music. Why do you suppose all those old old stringed instruments had separate sets of strings sometimes? Yes, to enhance the sound, not to be played on. I guess they would be called hurdy-gurdies, but I ferget.
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In your instrument family, the baryton is the most famous.

I've taken the kids to Europe twice, now. We've been to the musical instrument museums in both Vienna and Brussels. We've seen about 5 or 6 of those things, even heard one played.
 

Tibetan meditation bowls are great, already tuned.

When the monks mine the ore, they chant.
When the monks smelt the ore, they chant.
When the monks pour the metal, they chant.
When they tune a bowl, they chant.

The Buddha prescribed what 7 metals are to go into a meditation bowl.

 
Winston Smith said:
OK Mystic. This A=432 stuff has me really whacked. I listened to your youtube, and tried to match the pitch on cello. It was excruciating, and I am quite used to adjusting pitch to fit circumstances. Then I took my trusty Deagan/Chicago A=440 tuning fork and placed it agains mine ear and wow was there a throbbing against your 432. "Beats," we call it.

This whole thing is a bit esoteric, because I submit they could have performed the same thing just here with A=440 and the effect would be about the same. What I am saying is the choice of voice, gongs, electronic synthesizer, and other sounds produces the effect, not the pitch. But I am sure there are quite adamant contrarians out there who swear by their "findings."
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"Beats", aka "super hetrodynes", aka "dissonance". Who was it, Arnold Schoenberg the composer it was. Arnie did a lot of playing around with dissonances then back to resonance. The art comes in the making it all sound good.
 
Udarnik said:
Have you ever seen one played? I would imagine tuning would be an absolute bitch. :omg:
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I don't know. Those extras do not need to be in perfect tune to still vibrate sympathetically, a near approximation will do. And like anything, one becomes expert at it given enough work. Ivan Galamian, a very famous violin teacher, said one should be able to play in tune on an out of tune instrument and that is indeed true. Nah, I have never heard one, or if I have I forgot all about the experience. I seem to recall dimly hearing them in those cobwebs of my mind. They wrote a song about that, "In the Cobwebs of My Mind," I think it was.
 
Winston Smith said:
Uh, if you didjeridooists want to didjeridoo with other instruments it would be good to tune them. You know for the sensibilites of the sensitive artistes.
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If you figure out how to tune a didj...well, you could put an extension in the mouthpiece and change the pitch, but hey, the western style instruments are much easier to tune, are even made so they can be tuned. I have multiple times played with other didjers and it's sort of funny, I've never heard that hetrodyne dissonance, may have something to do with the low pitch.

My point in all this "pitch" carrying on is the continued uplifting of the human heart and soul which art provides and at present music looks to be the most popular art in our civilization. I have watched and studied this phenomena for decades now, when it gets at its best there is that spine-tingling tears and goosebumps, like the bel canto lyric soprano singing an octave above a popvoice chorus, yeow momma! I've gone around Ye Olde Tubbee and read many comments by people and you get all sorts of descriptions of "voice of an angel", "sent by God", "Heaven incarnate" and on up and down the superlatives. Yes, folks are very uplifted by this phenomena and I highly, highly approve. The divine ecstasy of art! Then Winnie tunes up his big fiddle and becomes a POG (Piece o' Gawhde). Awesome, just awesome.

And it is quite apparent to me that the more the tuning pitch is aligned with Natural Law the deeper will be the soul experience.
 
Mystic said:


If you figure out how to tune a didj...well, you could put an extension in the mouthpiece and change the pitch, but hey, the western style instruments are much easier to tune, are even made so they can be tuned. I have multiple times played with other didjers and it's sort of funny, I've never heard that hetrodyne dissonance, may have something to do with the low pitch.

My point in all this "pitch" carrying on is the continued uplifting of the human heart and soul which art provides and at present music looks to be the most popular art in our civilization. I have watched and studied this phenomena for decades now, when it gets at its best there is that spine-tingling tears and goosebumps, like the bel canto lyric soprano singing an octave above a popvoice chorus, yeow momma! I've gone around Ye Olde Tubbee and read many comments by people and you get all sorts of descriptions of "voice of an angel", "sent by God", "Heaven incarnate" and on up and down the superlatives. Yes, folks are very uplifted by this phenomena and I highly, highly approve. The divine ecstasy of art! Then Winnie tunes up his big fiddle and becomes a POG (Piece o' Gawhde). Awesome, just awesome.

And it is quite apparent to me that the more the tuning pitch is aligned with Natural Law the deeper will be the soul experience.
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There was a guy who claimed that he went Clear while tuning a piano.
I know that a person can sure go exterior on music.
 
phenomanon said:
There was a guy who claimed that he went Clear while tuning a piano.
I know that a person can sure go exterior on music.
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Well this is a complicated thing. I have to work hard to make music. I mean really hard. The process of learning difficult music is itty bitty by teenie tinys. And no matter how long i have played, it gets no easier. Not sure I understand this idea of going anywhere by playing. Yes there are sublime moments, but then you come back to earth.
 
Winston Smith said:
Well this is a complicated thing. I have to work hard to make music. I mean really hard. The process of learning difficult music is itty bitty by teenie tinys. And no matter how long i have played, it gets no easier. Not sure I understand this idea of going anywhere by playing. Yes there are sublime moments, but then you come back to earth.
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Oh man, Winnie, yes yes. In this incarnation I have played, or, tried to play: flute, sax, clarinet, drums, bugle, kazoo, didjeridoo, hollow log, various rhythm instruments including books, tables, tin cups, etc., piano and girls. None were "easy" for me. Took me 6 months to learn to circular breathe on the didj.
 
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