Some Really Good Advice in Infographic Form

[Lermanet_com]

I had a good experience with it, I got the worst flu Ive ever had around thanksgiving which evolved in a few days after the fever went down into the worst head cold with bronchitis and a touch of pneumonia on the right side.

I went to my Dr, and his waiting room was filled with people coughing and I got a very painful shot of some new antibiotic for penumonia. And 5 days of doxycycline. $100 later I did feel a bit better for a three days, getting my hopes up, but then the damn thing came back with a vengeance... for a while I wasnt posting cause I was too ill to think and slept all the time, so I did one thing - out of desperation...

1) I used colloidal silver as nose drops 2x a day, - had a bottle sitting there from almost a decade ago...

and another that came to me as a morning whisper after meditation the night before:

2) I took a 1/4 teaspoon of water miscible elemental sulfer from my garden supplies 1x a day for two weeks. The sulfer is eaten by certain strains of bacteria that naturally grow in your gut naturally, and produces powerful antibiotics. (note I routinely drink a bit of Kefir)

Between the two I recovered nicely from the worst chest cough/cold/flu or whatever I ever had.

Your mileage my vary...

And it cost pennies.

And yes going to the toilet did require turning on the exhaust fan....

Arnie

Edit: The large intestine is basically the human body's compost heap..I think using it to generate your own - custom built for the ecology of your body - antibiotics makes use of something that otherwise would be just more waste..

 

[elwood]

There are some really ineffectual snake oil cures but the fact is that they can work. They don't work physically but they do work as placebos. A patient believing that something prescribed or even an operation will cure the problem can get cured even from sugar pills, injections of water or being knocked out and scratched and sewn up as if a procedure had taken place. The immune system is designed to fight infection, natural pain killers can be released into the effected area simply by feeling that the doctor has looked at 'it' and told you what 'it' is. There are cases of people knowingly taking placebos because they are the only thing that works, it might be anecdotal but there are real cases. Searching the forest for the herbs the wise old woman told you would cure it is all part of the process of telling your mind to relax that relief is on its way. The mind is key in overcoming pain and infection and sugar pills might not work for diabetics but may well work for tension headaches without nasty side effects. I watched a program the other week about this there was guy who been hypnotised getting dental treatment without anaesthetic, it was grim to watch but he was fine. This is not the same documentary, but it's interesting.

Snake oil salesmen do see a few people getting cured, they then believe that it works, it may only be a very small percent but some people will be cured by anything. Some people get out of wheel chairs and walk because they let the little baby Jesus into their hearts, or the Lord Krishna, or because they kiss the stone representing Shivas penis or because they paid a priest to look after an orphan or because they had dianetics. The point is not that they got better but why and what percent of people get better. Most people who take cures for the common cold do get better, after a week, but so do most people who take nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvbQnMvhQFw

Nothing says "credibility" like a British accent.

 

[Free Being Me]

I'll see your silver colloids and raise you an e-meter.

Is the new design of the e-meter deliberate?

OK, let me step back, is it indeed true that early Dianeticist and Elron rival Robald B. Howes was indeed the same Ronald B. Howes who invented the E-Z Bake oven?

Oh yes, the e-meter pictured is the most advanced skin galvanometer/brownie bt buster to date. Yummy chocolate confections and a cult rolled into taste bud Elcon velvety chewy dissonance. The two Ronald B. Howes are in fact one in the same, having a body in pawn at the Pyrenees Mountains Implant Station, trading off bodies as needed for maximum mayhem. Sector Commander Parmesan Cheese probably issued a Decree about the whole affair but I didn't get the memo due to thankfully wearing my tinfoil hat inside out.

 

[Free Being Me]

I had a good experience with it, I got the worst flu Ive ever had around thanksgiving which evolved in a few days after the fever went down into the worst head cold with bronchitis and a touch of pneumonia on the right side.

I went to my Dr, and his waiting room was filled with people coughing and I got a very painful shot of some new antibiotic for penumonia. And 5 days of doxycycline. $100 later I did feel a bit better for a three days, getting my hopes up, but then the damn thing came back with a vengeance... for a while I wasnt posting cause I was too ill to think and slept all the time, so I did one thing - out of desperation...

1) I used colloidal silver as nose drops 2x a day, - had a bottle sitting there from almost a decade ago...

and another that came to me as a morning whisper after meditation the night before:

2) I took a 1/4 teaspoon of water miscible elemental sulfer from my garden supplies 1x a day for two weeks. The sulfer is eaten by certain strains of bacteria that naturally grow in your gut naturally, and produces powerful antibiotics. (note I routinely drink a bit of Kefir)

Between the two I recovered nicely from the worst chest cough/cold/flu or whatever I ever had.

Your mileage my vary...

And it cost pennies.

And yes going to the toilet did require turning on the exhaust fan....

Arnie

I don't deny there's some benefit, my objection is intentional misleading marketing.

 

[Mimsey Borogrove]

The leadership aspect has nothing to do with vibration, or even rhythm, and everything to do with concentrating on a leader and following his / her commands or movements. Once you're conditioned to be following that person in a given activity, it's easier to allow yourself to follow in other activities. That's why the military still puts marching in formation into basic training, despite that tactic being obsolete since the Civil War. It makes the non-com's jobs a lot easier off the parade ground. But it doesn't have to be movement. It's the same thing the TRs are used for to get you thinking in sync with the cult.

The desire to move in sync subconsciously is likely an evolutionary adaptation to keep enemies / predators from knowing exactly how many members are in a band of approaching humans.

I am not talking about leadership, following a leader, etc. I am talking about the unconscious harmony people fall into. The article was perhaps a bit off subject. Nevertheless, I think these harmonies are part of how we are wired, and not a metaphor like you propose.

You see it in so many aspects of life, these harmonic vibrations. I think to a large extent, it is a reflection of how our bodies function, all the cells in sync. Perhaps it is a survival mechanism, like a herd of water buffalo bonding together to drive of a lioness gnawing on a helpless calf. Or maybe it is an essential survival mechanism, to create and form groups to overcome the obstacles to survival.

Have you even noticed how, when you're not clicking with your spouse, after sex, you both seem to be on the same track? The affinity being higher, etc. What happened there? A re-syncing of the "vibrations"?

Mimsey

 

[kate8024]

Have you even noticed how, when you're not clicking with your spouse, after sex, you both seem to be on the same track? The affinity being higher, etc. What happened there? A re-syncing of the "vibrations"?

Oxytocin appears to play a role in this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

edit: as a side note Daniel Tosh has a joke that goes something like "when women orgasm their brains release a chemical that causes them to pair-bond, so it's important not to let that happen." (I looked for the exact wording or a clip of it without any luck)

 

[MissWog]

Is the new design of the e-meter deliberate?

OK, let me step back, is it indeed true that early Dianeticist and Elron rival Ronald B. Howes was indeed the same Ronald B. Howes who invented the E-Z Bake oven?

Same Ronald Howes! See my complete right up and links to his obituary for confirming details on this thread at this link... http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...R-is-delivered&p=911086&viewfull=1#post911086

I even got the HH seal of approval

 

[FlagEmDown]

Mainstream horseshit seems to get pulled in line more than the fringe stuff. Recall the yogurt company that got nailed in several countries for false advertising. They were claiming great benefits from what their marketers had decided to call "B L Regularis". I knew many people who bought into that horseshit.

 

[Lermanet_com]

I don't deny there's some benefit, my objection is intentional misleading marketing.

And we are in complete agreement regarding that...

 

[Lermanet_com]

Oxytocin appears to play a role in this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

edit: as a side note Daniel Tosh has a joke that goes something like "when women orgasm their brains release a chemical that causes them to pair-bond, so it's important not to let that happen." (I looked for the exact wording or a clip of it without any luck)

Men's brains release it also,
Perhaps that is also why some men seem to be so in love with themselves.

though men do not have an exclusive on this.....

 

[SweetnessandLight]

All right, I'll see your adaptogens and raise you colloids! Silver Colloids!

Oh Lord...someone just gave me a spray bottle!

 

[SweetnessandLight]

The leadership aspect has nothing to do with vibration, or even rhythm, and everything to do with concentrating on a leader and following his / her commands or movements. Once you're conditioned to be following that person in a given activity, it's easier to allow yourself to follow in other activities. That's why the military still puts marching in formation into basic training, despite that tactic being obsolete since the Civil War. It makes the non-com's jobs a lot easier off the parade ground. But it doesn't have to be movement. It's the same thing the TRs are used for to get you thinking in sync with the cult.

The desire to move in sync subconsciously is likely an evolutionary adaptation to keep enemies / predators from knowing exactly how many members are in a band of approaching humans.

Google "entrainment"

 

[DagwoodGum]

Oxytocin appears to play a role in this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

edit: as a side note Daniel Tosh has a joke that goes something like "when women orgasm their brains release a chemical that causes them to pair-bond, so it's important not to let that happen." (I looked for the exact wording or a clip of it without any luck)

That must be true then because we men often are shocked at the losers that women choose, so they're good in bed and that's all that was necessary? I've never ever used that as the basis for my choice largely because the women who are usually the best in bed are not necessarily relationship material...

 

[The_Fixer]

That is both a simple and a complex question.

First, for the simple: it means something is moving back and forth around a central point or anchor, and can be basically described by the mathematics here.

For the complex: when people use this term esoterically, they generally mean quantum vibration. But they mix it up with the vibration we are more familiar with - mechanical vibration, especially sound. We speak of being "in tune" with someone when we are clicking with them. That is perfectly fine as a metaphor. But our minds are not vibrating in any meaningful sense other than the pulse of blood carrying oxygen to our neurons.

The quantum world is quite different form the world we perceive, despite the fact that the world we perceive is made up of particles that exist in the quantum domain. Because all those quantum effects are in random directions, and they cancel each other out as you scale up your statistical mechanics. For example, it is quite possible that a single electron in an oxygen atom in your lung could remain "attached" to that atom and briefly appear somewhere near Mars, only to come back near the oxygen nucleus in your lung a moment later. Mind you, that would be exceedingly unlikely, but it's still allowed under the rules of Quantum Mechanics as we currently understand them.

That's quite weird and wonderful, and one of the things that got me interested in Quantum Mechanics when I first encountered Pauling and Wilson's book back in high school.

But all the electrons in your body won't do that at the same time, leaving you to blow apart in a gooey residue of positive charge. While still allowed under the rules of QM, the probability of that happening is now in the realm of that plied by Zaphod Beeblebrox in the Heart of Gold. Because each atom in you is doing its thing independently.

But then people who are not technically proficient, the kind of people SOT described as having a kindergarten level of understanding (too true), are claiming just that when they point at some improbable woo doctrine and then justify it with "because, quantum!"

So now we get to vibration. There is vibration on the quantum level. You can think of the bonds between atoms as tiny springs in certain respects. When those springs absorb light of the proper energy, they start to bounce back and forth like a spring with a weight on each end and can be described with math very similar to the kind you encountered as an undergrad in your Physics and Differential Equations classes if you were a techie like me. Light of higher energy (visible, UV) will cause the electrons in the bonds to jump around and light of a lower energy (microwave) will cause the molecules to spin (rotational quanta), but infrared light is exactly the right energy to make individual molecules go "boing".

But just as all your ground-state electrons won't find Mars at the same time, all the vibrations in your body are going every which way and cancel each other out. You don't have a quantum vibrational state as a macroscopic being. You do have a mechanical fundamental vibrational frequency, but that is not what these woo-loons are talking about. If someone talks about your "vibrational level" and upon questioning doesn't know how IR light works into this (and doesn't explain why their vibrational theory seems unaffected by oh, say proximity to a friggin' campfire), they are almost certainly pulling stuff out of their posterior orifice.

I hope I didn't make your eyes glaze over, happy to say more if I was unclear.

Oh no, I'm fine. Really. Thank you. Umm, Perfectly clear.

Oh looky there! Over yonder.... you see it??? (points finger somewhere). ... .....





(Fixy is still thinking that sometimes, ignorance really is bliss)

More seriously, good points on the OP.

 

[Udarnik]

I am not talking about leadership, following a leader, etc. I am talking about the unconscious harmony people fall into. The article was perhaps a bit off subject. Nevertheless, I think these harmonies are part of how we are wired, and not a metaphor like you propose.

You see it in so many aspects of life, these harmonic vibrations. I think to a large extent, it is a reflection of how our bodies function, all the cells in sync. Perhaps it is a survival mechanism, like a herd of water buffalo bonding together to drive of a lioness gnawing on a helpless calf. Or maybe it is an essential survival mechanism, to create and form groups to overcome the obstacles to survival.

Have you even noticed how, when you're not clicking with your spouse, after sex, you both seem to be on the same track? The affinity being higher, etc. What happened there? A re-syncing of the "vibrations"?

Mimsey

Harmony is a human social feedback mechanism. It exists. But not on the cellular level.

What exactly do you think is vibrating?

Human social harmony can be described as an interlocking set of feedback and feedforward mechanisms. The math that describes those systems is very different from the math of oscillations. Thinking about human harmony in the former terms yields to useful methods such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Thinking about it in the literal later terms leads people to believe that they have a vibratory state, and then that other physical objects have this state and can influence it. There is just no comparison in explanatory power of the two ways of looking at things. One leads to people healing through the power of science, the other leads to people staring at colored rocks - not all that different from staring at an e-meter read-out in my book.