666 and the Church of Scientology

[GoNuclear]

Many of us have become aware of 666 as supposedly the number of Satan/Devil. I have recently come across an article which notes that the carbon atom have six protons, six electrons and six neutrons, and suggests that there could be something evil in the proposed carbon tax.

This had me thinking that there may well be a 666 associated with some key aspect of the CofS. Do you have any suggestions?

David.

I don't know about the tie in to Cof$, but this is one of those "coincidence" tie-ins regarding the end times money system. I believe that the system that we are headed to eventually, besides being all electronic, will be based upon the legal fiction of carbon credits as opposed to the legal fiction of creation of credit/debt via bond issuance, which is monetized. With carbon credits in circulation as money, booms and busts can be arbitrarily manufactured at will with a "global warming is on the rise" or "its cooler than we thought". Scientific data, which will be routinely ignored anyways, will be classified as top secret/national security such that the elites don't get embarrassed by people who read.

With a carbon credit money system comes the implication that breathing is a privilege since it puts CO2 into the air. If someone agrees to that, they have, by implication, agreed they have no rights whatsoever, since breathing is fundamental to life. If breathing is by privilege what could you call an inalienable right? And that is where the microchip comes in ... by accepting the chip implant to participate in the economic system of carbon credits, there will be some paperwork to sign off on, full of fine print, that says you are making a one time irrevokable gift of all your inalienable rights to the state or some such horseshitistic language, agree that the state or some idol they hold up is god, etc.

Pete

 

[JohnMicheal]

I was in Toronto, and in the Sea Org, when the building was acquired. It was bought because it was the best deal that served their needs at the time.

Spooky? I suppose that you can imagine (dub-in) THAT if you choose to.

So, did the Sea Org purchase the building BECAUSE it had the number "696"?

I don't think the CoS would have gone out of their way to buy a building with a 696 address. A coincidence, but still a spooky one.

Maybe it was somebody's postulate that led to that coincidental address... Who know's, lol.

 

[pollywog]

There are many interesting facts about the number "666" - many having nothing to do with Satan... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/666_(number)

As for scientology? We could probably find a way to make 666 translate into "scientology is evil." Shall we try?

 

[MafiaWog]

One thing I have always wondered is if the oh-so-evil Satan did the terrible action of having A&E eat the fruit of knowledge, doesn't that imply that the various Judeo-Xtian religions, as well as god, consider knowledge to be evil? Doesn't that essentially mean god made people to be on par with pets, or mindless slaves, something to put on his mantle and be proud of when he looks at it?


Sounds kind of like a dick move to me. Not to mention the hypocricy of any such religious group utilizing ANYTHING derived from knowledge (e.g. electronics, the wheel, even the history of their own faith).

 

[secretiveoldfag]

Who knows what any of this stuff means? It was written the gods knows when by the gods knows who for some social or political purpose, in some obsolete language like ancient Greek or Aramaic, in circumstances we know nothing about, and people are trying to make sense of a translation from a Greek dialect (probably) into English.

I mean, Jesus wept, how can anyone make life-altering decisions based on what they are told about the Bible? At least we all know who wrote Scientology scripture and why.

To add that the only coherent explanation of 666 I ever came across put it into Roman numerals (something like DCLXVI) and then deduced that these are the initials for various names of Nero, the Beast, who was at that point attacking the Jews or the Christians or anyone else who didn't agree with him. It isn't magic, it isn't religious, it has no power; it is a cryptogram with political content.

 

[guanoloco]

Who knows what any of this stuff means? It was written the gods knows when by the gods knows who for some social or political purpose, in some obsolete language like ancient Greek or Aramaic, in circumstances we know nothing about, and people are trying to make sense of a translation from a Greek dialect (probably) into English.

I mean, Jesus wept, how can anyone make life-altering decisions based on what they are told about the Bible? At least we all know who wrote Scientology scripture and why.

To add that the only coherent explanation of 666 I ever came across put it into Roman numerals (something like DCLXVI) and then deduced that these are the initials for various names of Nero, the Beast, who was at that point attacking the Jews or the Christians or anyone else who didn't agree with him. It isn't magic, it isn't religious, it has no power; it is a cryptogram with political content.

SHIT!

...there goes my Motley Crue tattoo...

 

[SpecialFrog]

To add that the only coherent explanation of 666 I ever came across put it into Roman numerals (something like DCLXVI) and then deduced that these are the initials for various names of Nero, the Beast, who was at that point attacking the Jews or the Christians or anyone else who didn't agree with him. It isn't magic, it isn't religious, it has no power; it is a cryptogram with political content.

Hugh Schonfield explains 616 thusly:

Greek and Hebrew letters have a numerical value. The Roman imperial stamp was in Greek, and the solution of the figure will depend on when the seer is writing. From tradition and the details given this would seem to be the end of the reign of Domitian, who was assassinated in AD96... From known examples the Imperial stamp for AD 95-96 would read [GREEK]ID KAISAPOS[/GREEK] (14th year of Caesar's reign). This adds up to 616 (14+20+1+10+200+1+100+70+200).

 

[scifibandit]

Since we are carbon-based life forms, and carbon-12 has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons, does that mean we are the sons and daughters of Satan? That would make things interesting...

 

[Purple Rain]

That book never claimed that 666 is the number of Satan. It is allegedly the number of a man - an Adam - the number for man supposedly being 6. The mythical beast was not Satan but 'anti-Christ' - the worship of man instead of the Christ, which does kind of fit with Scientology actually although it is by no means alone in this as an ism or logy - whether you consider it the worship of one man such as Hubbard or the superhuman abilities of man such as the OT powers are purported to be.

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

One thing I have always wondered is if the oh-so-evil Satan did the terrible action of having A&E eat the fruit of knowledge, doesn't that imply that the various Judeo-Xtian religions, as well as god, consider knowledge to be evil? Doesn't that essentially mean god made people to be on par with pets, or mindless slaves, something to put on his mantle and be proud of when he looks at it?


Sounds kind of like a dick move to me. Not to mention the hypocricy of any such religious group utilizing ANYTHING derived from knowledge (e.g. electronics, the wheel, even the history of their own faith).

It wasn't the tree of knowledge, it was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. That's a big difference.

And this is the same tree that Hubbard and Scientology does want their followers to eat from; once they have knowledge of good and evil they leave Hubbard and Scientology behind.

By the way, Adam and Eve were the first communist.

They had no home, they had no job, they had no clothes, they had no car, and yet they thought they were in paradise.

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[Rmack]

For what it's worth; 666 is the sum of the first 36 numbers.

1+2+3+4...etc, all the way to 36.

 

[mate]

Of course, the number of the beast is most likely 616 rather than 666 so it makes trying to sneak 666 into things extra silly.

On the contrary, it is almost certainly that 666 is the correct number. In ancient Rome, most communications were spoken and I suspect that as 666 and 616 sound not unlike each other in Latin, that it would be easy to record 616 incorrectly and then subsequently correct it. Wikipedia has an excellent article on 666.

However, this is besides the point. It is what Hubbard thought, and he looked to Aleister Crowley as his mentor and Crowley considered himself as the 666 beast.

I think Arnie hit it right on the head with his triangles, and Hubbard was certainly obsessed with triangles in the early days.

David.

 

[SpecialFrog]

On the contrary, it is almost certainly that 666 is the correct number. In ancient Rome, most communications were spoken and I suspect that as 666 and 616 sound not unlike each other in Latin, that it would be easy to record 616 incorrectly and then subsequently correct it. Wikipedia has an excellent article on 666.

Except that it was written in Koine Greek by someone who was probably Jewish. Schonfield previously worked on the Dead Sea scroll translation and in this case he was working from the Greek.

But yes, Crowley and Hubbard thought it was 666.

 

[Purple Rain]

For what it's worth; 666 is the sum of the first 36 numbers.

1+2+3+4...etc, all the way to 36.

That is actually incredibly cool! I had to do it for myself just to see if it was true .... I just find that so cool!