BOOK - The Original Thesis

Vinaire

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My understanding now is that it is "traumatic perceptic" that does something to the the beings ability to observe and evaluate.

Engram is suppose to be a "bundle of perceptics." I am finding it more useful to just use the term "traumatic perceptics" instead of the term "engram."

For example, one may say,

Traumatic perceptics may be identified in the mind with “hidden” personalities. This may cause irrational attachments and antipathies in one's contemporary environment.

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beyond_horizons

Patron Meritorious
I should have added that I believe we are potential. True beingness is completely spontaneous whereas fixed beingnesses rely on "now I'm supposed to's". It's that Zen thing of "it" acts through you.
Decide from your potential 'To Be' and the personality / ego takes care of itself!

Then decide what is beautiful and wise and you've created for yourself an ugly and dumb world to live in.

http://www.thetao.info/english/page2.htm
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
The "you" is better in my opinion. Personality is additive. Therefore "basic personality" is an oxymoron and far too restrictive of the nature of being. Which I believe points out a hole in the tech and in Hubbard's viewpoint.

YOU is an acronym for Your Own Universe.

Or your Own creation.
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
Which means?

It is a creation of yours! :)

The pure spiritual formless essence created the space - the container of the space - the form - the time - the energy - the things - the traits, etc.

What's in it - you put there - maybe with some help of your "friends."

Also there are millions if not billions of "you's" you created down through time, many in conflict with other "you's" one has created. :confused2:
 

nexus100

Gold Meritorious Patron
It is a creation of yours! :)

You created the space - the container of the space - the time - the energy - the things - the traits, etc.

What's in it - you put there - maybe with some help of your "friends."

Also there are millions if not billions of "you's" you created down through time, many in conflict with other "you's" one has created. :confused2:

It may not be as complicated as you think. However time will tell.
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
It may not be as complicated as you think. However time will tell.

It is not complicated - just incredibly charged! :)

To a newbie it appears incredibly complicated - but it is amazing how fast they can learn - once they get the "flinch" from contacting their own highly charged creations handled.
 

Vinaire

Sponsor
Dianetics looks at the aberration of basic dynamics.

Scientology seems to look at the basic dynamics themselves as an additive to the being.

When one achieves the viewpoint beyond even the basic dynamics, then one may go back and sort out the aberrations and the additives in much more efficient manner.

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Vinaire

Sponsor
In TOT Hubbard says,

When an individual during auditing is attempting to “hold on to his aberrations,” the auditor may be assured that that person has as part of the content of the reactive mind such phrases as, “don’t dare get rid of it,” which, identically translated, apparently applies to aberrations. It may, in fact, apply in an engram containing an attempted abortion.

Maybe the phrase “don’t dare get rid of it” simply existed as an impulse even prior to the acquisition of speech. This impulse was given mass by an actual incident, such as, attempted abortion.

This brings into question the following supposition from TOT,

With speech the reactive mind came to possess far more power and extensive content. The analytical mind, being a delicate mechanism in some respects no matter how rugged and capable in others, then could become subjected to delusions and illusions which, however shadowy and unreal, must nevertheless be obeyed.

For a command to exist, speech is not necessary.

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Vinaire

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The ideas from TOT may be expressed more clearly as follows:

Traumatic perceptics aberrate the analytical mind by creating associations and identities where such did not exist before. These very associations and identifications then make it difficult for the analytical mind to de-aberrate itself.

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Vinaire

Sponsor
Notes from TOT Chapter "The character of Engrams."

Traumatic perceptics create associations and identities in the analytical mind where such did not exist before. The individual then uses these associations and identifications to interpret what it perceives. The mind perceives the impressions left by past perceptics in the form of a time track of experience.

This derangement itself, having become part of the analyzer, cannot be perceived by the analyzer. The impression left of those traumatic perceptics, which cause this derangement, cannot be perceived by ordinary means.

Both body and mind get aligned to the engram (the impression left by traumatic perceptics) and get activated into its pattern when similar perceptics appear in the environment. The engramic content then gets dramatized.

The analyzer cannot permit itself to be wrong. So it has to justify what it does under the influence of the engram. Engramic thought is irrational identity-thought by which the mind is made to conceive identities where only vague similarities may exist.

As the analytical mind becomes more corrupted due to the infiltration of traumatic perceptics from outside it reacts to unsolved problems as follows:
(a) Succumbs – justifies the organism’s reaction to them
(b) Neglect – apathetically may neglect them
(c) Avoid – avoid them in many intricate ways
(d) Flee – causes the organism to attempt to flee from them
(e) Attack – attacks them
The problems contain their own solutions. But the analytical mind is unable to pull the strings. It cannot even isolate the situation. It becomes entirely indiscriminate and irrational.

The individual’s tone drops as engramic patterns take over more and more of individual determinism. The analytical mind introverts not being able to discover the source of its command. Below 2.0 the individual is more or less in a state of being commanded by its engramic patterns.

The tone of the analytical mind determines the degree to which engramic data is hard wired to bodies controls. The engramic pattern may be fed in sequence to accomplish a dramatization.

How traumatized the mind is depends entirely on the traumatic perceptics received from the environment. The auditor is only interested in what has been done to the person. The acts committed by the person are useful for diagnostics purposes only.

By eradicating pain from the life of an individual, the auditor returns the individual to complete rationality and sanity. The auditor should restore the person to tone-four, which is far in advance of the normal state in the society. This can be accomplished with any person who is not physically hopeless.

Anything implanted, even if “positive” is bad for the individual. This includes positive suggestions through hypnotism, auto-control hypnotism, or “education.” Only the individual can decide and evaluate things in his environment.

Traumatic perceptics disrupt the self-determination of the individual and introduce unseen foreign, careless and unreasoning commands. They are much more severe than the usual parental punishments, family complications, reprimands, minor accidents normally encountered in life.

Traumatic perceptics may cause identifications in the mind with “hidden” personalities. This may cause irrational attachments and antipathies in one's contemporary environment.

Traumatic perceptics are interpreted most literally as they were received. They can and do aberrate all the sensory perceptions, any and all parts of the mind and body. The evolution of speech has greatly contributed to this aberration. With speech the delicate mechanism of the analytical mind could be aberrated in complex ways.

Aberrations in no way contribute to individual’s power or purpose. A person may apply the impulse of “do not get rid off” unknowingly to his aberrations as well. An incident of attempted abortion may provide mass to this impulse.

Traumatic perceptics create associations and identities in the analytical mind where such did not exist before. The analytical mind cannot then perceive this derangement of itself. Aberrated eccentricities are not part of the true individuality.


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Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
Good stuff Vinaire;

I prefer selective perception - caused by trauma to perceptics.
 

Vinaire

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From TOT:

A strong necessity may help overcome dramatization. Dramatization occurs most often in the absence of necessity.

I think that Sea Org was founded upon this assumption, which may have worked to a certain point, but which has been carried beyond the point of absurdity.

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Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
From TOT:

A strong necessity may help overcome dramatization. Dramatization occurs most often in the absence of necessity.

I think that Sea Org was founded upon this assumption, which may have worked to a certain point, but which has been carried beyond the point of absurdity.

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I don't think the Sea Org was founded upon anything like this.

The Sea Org was founded upon military training and indoctrination, combined with Maoist, Stalinist and North Korean techniques of re-education.

The Sea Org was a culmination of Hubbard's work on the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course where he worked out the parts of a personality, and how to soften up the existing one to install a new one.

The reason it seems to have become absurd is because you are trying to find the technical points in early Scientology "The Basics" which culminated in the Sea Org.

They aren't there.

They are in the works of Mao, and through the study of Stalin and North Korean re-education techniques.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Didn't it start off so he could go treasure-hunting with all that "Test of Whole Track Recall" palaver?

Then, after he didn't find all the buried treasure he expected to, the other things (and high-sounding ideals) developed later?

Paul
 

Vinaire

Sponsor
Here are my notes from TOT Chapter "Dramatization."

Impressions left by traumatic perceptics become a part of the mental and physical make-up. When the organism operates through these traumatic impressions, it is said to be dramatizing.

When the general tone of the person is high he can be aware of the effect of these impressions and can override them. As this general tone lowers through ill health, reverses, or constant restimulation, the person is proportionately less aware, and dramatization ensues.

Low tone, high restimulation, creates complete dramatization in terms of identity. The person acts like one or more of the identities present in the traumatic impression. However, high tone, mild restimulation, mild dramatization in terms of similarity is the usual case.

Insanity can be acute or chronic. The common denominator of all insanity is the absence of all or almost all awareness potential in the person. By examination of the rage or apathy or hysteria patterns of a person, one may assess the character of the traumatic impressions in the person.

The dramatization of a manic, fanatic, or zealot appears to be highly purposeful. However, it has a hectic quality. It is a false purpose coming from the traumatic impression. It channels native ability into a furious and destructive effort. A deeper restimulation, however, brings about physical pain and sporadic sag of “purpose.”

A prevention of dramatization reduces the dynamic thrust and tone of the person toward a break point. Unhampered dramatization produces other harmful effects. A strong necessity may help overcome a dramatization. Dramatization occurs most often in the absence of necessity.

The mental and physical condition of the organism at the moment of trauma becomes part of the traumatic impression and gets activated by restimulation. The physical dramatization may be allayed by physical exhaustion. The mental dramatization may be allayed by mental exhaustion of the phrases uttered during the receipt of traumatic perceptics.

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