David Miscavige's abuses and violence

[anonomog]

Thanks Karen for collating all of this together. It is valauble to understand why and how people are forced to stay and endure.

 

[lotus]

I second!

recently there has been a discussion about the Big Blue RPF and the basement (old morgue - rats - roaches )

It's so unbeleivable that we might think these are made up stories.

But when it is told or reported by reliable veteran
we can only face the horrific truth

Thank you!

 

[Lurker5]

Karen#1 Thank you. I love your relentlessness . . . You go, Girl.

 

[Veda]

I second!

recently there has been a discussion about the Big Blue RPF and the basement (old morgue - rats - roaches )

It's so unbeleivable that we might think these are made up stories.

But when it is told or reported by reliable veteran
we can only face the horrific truth

Thank you!

There are many disturbing accounts from Big Blue, from the middle 1970s, of people being subjected to extreme sleep deprivation, systematic degradation, and such things as being handcuffed to pipes in the basement. Some of these accounts can be found in Professor Stephen Kent's 'Brainwashing in Scientology's Rehabilitation Project Force'.

It appears that Miscavige is continuing to apply Hubbard's tech.

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Karen#1 Thank you. I love your relentlessness . . . You go, Girl.

Yep!

This Thread is a most valuable contribution to this Community.

This stuff is not easy to read but must be read. They that have suffered are being heard and their stories are being told and, for me personally, it is incumbant that I hear their voices for I was once part of that mindless machine and a lapdog of the machines creator.

You are more than relentless, Karen...You Are a Sword of Divine Justice.

My Very Best Wishes to You and Yours Always in All Ways.

Face

 

[Auditor's Toad]

I second!

recently there has been a discussion about the Big Blue RPF and the basement (old morgue - rats - roaches )

It's so unbeleivable that we might think these are made up stories.

But when it is told or reported by reliable veteran
we can only face the horrific truth

Thank you!

Circa 1977 the morgue in big blue was where the RPFs RPF was housed.
I know it because I saw it. I was there. It might be difficult to accept it happened and that it was real, but, I saw it. And I know other people that were there then and not only saw it but lived it.

Not as awful as children in the chain locker on the Apollo but very unpleasant part of the history of that cult.

 

[Karen#1]

Miscavige LIES LIES LIES and gets others to LIE.

Incredulously, he had Norman Starkey who he has punched on numerous occasions lie to Anderson Cooper.
CNN's 'A History of Violence' Part 1. - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcg-K78i7FkMar 30, 2010
He had many victims of his beatings send lying affidavits to the St Pete Times.
Ray Mithoff, Guillame LeSevre more battered than most LIED LIED LIED to protect Miscavige.
Possible enforced. Possibly Stockholm Syndrome.

This was a very bad move. It is one thing to lie to media, quite another thing to lie in a court of law. PERJURY can give a jail sentence. The sycophants and toadies surrounding him will have a tough time repeating those lies in a Court of Law, when a huge amount of ex Sea Org will testify to eye witness accounts of his savage beatings.....

 

[Jump]

CNN's 'A History of Violence' Part 1. - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcg-K78i7Fk
Mar 30, 2010

fify

 

[Veda]

Miscavige LIES LIES LIES and gets others to LIE.

-snip-

Where do you think this pattern of lying began?

-snip-

He had many victims of his beatings send lying affidavits to the St Pete Times.
Ray Mithoff, Guillame LeSevre more battered than most LIED LIED LIED to protect Miscavige.
Possible enforced. Possibly Stockholm Syndrome.

This was a very bad move. It is one thing to lie to media, quite another thing to lie in a court of law. PERJURY can give a jail sentence.

-snip-

Lying in court has been standard Scientology procedure since the 1960s. Hubbard's covert "dirty tricks" tech requires "suitable guises," and lying and manipulation, as does his Propaganda tech.


What's difficult for Scientologists to recognize is that Hubbard internalized these and used them on his own unsuspecting followers.

"This is a cold blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillions years," L. Ron Hubbard, 1952

In Scientology, "theta" means life force, elan vital, and harmonious, serene, and affirming and validating of Scientology, and true; and entheta means anti-life, and turbulent, upsetting, and critical and invalidating of Scientology, and false.

And Scientology is "Mankind's only hope."

L. Ron Hubbard, on inventing facts, from an April 1955 'HCOB':

"A datum is an invention which has become agreed upon and solidified... When it is thoroughly agreed upon it becomes, then, a truth.

"The word 'lie' is simply 'an invention with a bad connotation'... Thus society frowns upon the invention of facts."

And this from the loose-lipped 1952 'PDC' lectures, "It's a trap not being able to prevaricate."

And then there's the old reliable, 'TR-L', the Training Routine for Lying from the 1960s.

And, of course, there's the first half of the Fair Game Law, "Trick and lie to.", also from 1960s.

And then there's Scientology's multi-layered PR Tech of the early 1970s, which, per the pattern, dishonestly announces its own honesty while, further in, instructs on how to manipulate, and further instructs on how to mislead and lie.

These things are as much a part of Scientology as the "auditing comm cycle," and discharging tension by finding "earlier similars" (wording is Korzybski's), and these ingredients, along with others, combine - per the founder's design - making Scientology.

In Scientology, lying is only supposed to flow downward, with Hubbard free to lie to Scientologists, but Scientologists expected to comply, and to open their minds completely to inspection.

It shouldn't be surprising that a 'Good Scientologist' is willing to lie to those he sees as below him: the "DBs," "SPs," and the "Wogs."

It's quite a system: an 'applied philosophy' that make liars out of good people, who - themselves - have been lied to.

The first step to unraveling this mess is to describe it.

And "DM bad," "LRH good" is *not* describing it.

From Judge Breckenridge, 1984:

"As indicated by its factual findings, the court finds the testimony of Gerald and Joycelyn Armstrong, Laurel Sullivan...Omar Garrison, Kima Douglas, and Homer Shomer to be credible, extremely persuasive... In all critical and important matters their testimony was precise, accurate and rang true...

"The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder LRH. The evidence portrays a man who has been virtually a pathological liar...

"The writings and documents in evidence additionally reflect his egotism, greed, avarice, lust for power, and vindictiveness and aggressiveness against persons perceived by him to be disloyal or hostile.

"At the same time it appears that he is charismatic and highly capable of motivating, organizing, controlling, manipulating, and inspiring his adherents..."

Thank you again for your hard work, Karen#1, but sooner or later, you and the other Independent Scientologists, are going to have to face the fact that these dishonest and abusive behaviors began with Hubbard.

 

[Karen#1]

Thanks for posting the link to the Los Angeles Press Conference where a bunch of ex Sea Org Members spoke on camera to the media. Glibby, I believe you had a lot to do with setting it up long with Benny's Friend.

A really well done job. It is interesting how people are willing to go on record and on camera to tell their atrocities within the Sea Organization. When in the Sea Organization, no person is allowed to ever read the Internet, every read a newspaper, ever go to a public library, or even communicate with the outside world~~ freely. It is done with
"Ethics officers" listening in on private phone calls to families, mail inbound and outbound is read by the "Security" division. It is a completely controlled life. It is lock down.

Maureen was recruited in the Sea Org at age 16. She worked 80 hour to 100 hour weeks as in slave labor for cents an hour and kept imprisoned for 3 years before her final escape.

Maureen Bolstad has one of the more poignant stories and her videos tell it all (posted below) but I will summarise some highlights.

In the RPF her letters requesting OUT were carefully hidden within and not allowed out of the RPF. At one point in a flare-up Maureen punched the "Ethics Officer" of the RPF and in retaliation he grabbed Maureen's hand and smashed it on the table and broke it. He then smashed her against a book case injuring her ribs and in a continuing melee pinned her to a chair injuring her wrist.


THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE RPF. IT IS ALL CLOSETED, KEPT SECRET, NO WAY OUT, ASSAULT AND BATTERY NEVER REPORTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. RPF VIOLENCE IS KEPT WITHIN THE RPF AND NOT EVEN REPORTED OUTSIDE THE GULAG.

In a last ditch effort to protest against the slavery, the imprisonment, the insanities and atrocities, Maureen threatened to stop eating and sleeping so her body would DIE. This got their attention.

She did attempt an escape when the 2 bodyguards outside her imprisoned quarters left. She ran up the nearby creek and a full pursuit occurred with flashing lights and guard dogs.

The Sea Org personnel feel they have the right to pursue a fleeing Sea Org Member as if they had Federal Marshall privileges......hunt you down like an animal and force a return or LIE LIE LIE that you will be allowed to "route out" standardly. Bait and switch.

Listen to Maureen's riveting escape and capture

Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrazhaNR5Xg

Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpAbLLi9vvs

 

[AnonKat]

lololololol

Miscavige LIES LIES LIES and gets others to LIE.

Incredulously, he had Norman Starkey who he has punched on numerous occasions lie to Anderson Cooper.
CNN's 'A History of Violence' Part 1. - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcg-K78i7FkMar 30, 2010
He had many victims of his beatings send lying affidavits to the St Pete Times.
Ray Mithoff, Guillame LeSevre more battered than most LIED LIED LIED to protect Miscavige.
Possible enforced. Possibly Stockholm Syndrome.

This was a very bad move. It is one thing to lie to media, quite another thing to lie in a court of law. PERJURY can give a jail sentence. The sycophants and toadies surrounding him will have a tough time repeating those lies in a Court of Law, when a huge amount of ex Sea Org will testify to eye witness accounts of his savage beatings.....

 

[Jachs]

Where do you think this pattern of lying began?



Lying in court has been standard Scientology procedure since the 1960s. Hubbard's covert "dirty tricks" tech requires "suitable guises," and lying and manipulation, as does his Propaganda tech.


What's difficult for Scientologists to recognize is that Hubbard internalized these and used them on his own unsuspecting followers.

"This is a cold blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillions years," L. Ron Hubbard, 1952

In Scientology, "theta" means life force, elan vital, and harmonious, serene, and affirming and validating of Scientology, and true; and entheta means anti-life, and turbulent, upsetting, and critical and invalidating of Scientology, and false.

And Scientology is "Mankind's only hope."

L. Ron Hubbard, on inventing facts, from an April 1955 'HCOB':

"A datum is an invention which has become agreed upon and solidified... When it is thoroughly agreed upon it becomes, then, a truth.

"The word 'lie' is simply 'an invention with a bad connotation'... Thus society frowns upon the invention of facts."

And this from the loose-lipped 1952 'PDC' lectures, "It's a trap not being able to prevaricate."

And then there's the old reliable, 'TR-L', the Training Routine for Lying from the 1960s.

And, of course, there's the first half of the Fair Game Law, "Trick and lie to.", also from 1960s.

And then there's Scientology's multi-layered PR Tech of the early 1970s, which, per the pattern, dishonestly announces its own honesty while, further in, instructs on how to manipulate, and further instructs on how to mislead and lie.

These things are as much a part of Scientology as the "auditing comm cycle," and discharging tension by finding "earlier similars" (wording is Korzybski's), and these ingredients, along with others, combine - per the founder's design - making Scientology.

In Scientology, lying is only supposed to flow downward, with Hubbard free to lie to Scientologists, but Scientologists expected to comply, and to open their minds completely to inspection.

It shouldn't be surprising that a 'Good Scientologist' is willing to lie to those he sees as below him: the "DBs," "SPs," and the "Wogs."

It's quite a system: an 'applied philosophy' that make liars out of good people, who - themselves - have been lied to.

The first step to unraveling this mess is to describe it.

And "DM bad," "LRH good" is *not* describing it.

From Judge Breckenridge, 1984:

"As indicated by its factual findings, the court finds the testimony of Gerald and Joycelyn Armstrong, Laurel Sullivan...Omar Garrison, Kima Douglas, and Homer Shomer to be credible, extremely persuasive... In all critical and important matters their testimony was precise, accurate and rang true...

"The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder LRH. The evidence portrays a man who has been virtually a pathological liar...

"The writings and documents in evidence additionally reflect his egotism, greed, avarice, lust for power, and vindictiveness and aggressiveness against persons perceived by him to be disloyal or hostile.

"At the same time it appears that he is charismatic and highly capable of motivating, organizing, controlling, manipulating, and inspiring his adherents..."

Thank you again for your hard work, Karen#1, but sooner or later, you and the other Independent Scientologists, are going to have to face the fact that these dishonest and abusive behaviors began with Hubbard.

There is also TR-Ignore where auditors are trained in non acknowledgement, to switch off.

But it doesnt stop auditors from hearing or seeing the information.

G. R[xxx], Jr.]Lafayette Ronald Hubbard was one of my favorite pulp fiction authors.

There was a darker side to his nature..

Don Purcell told me,[1952] very seriously, "Never do Hubbard a favor; he'll not only never forgive you, he'll do his best to destroy you!"

http://www.lermanet.com/cisar/carto/rxxx.htm

 

[GoNuclear]

The culture is based partly on policy, but also on Hubbard's confidential instructions. Hubbard's written, recorded spoken, and transcribed confidential instructions trump publicized policy. Rank and file Scientologists don't see this part of Scientology except, sometimes, when experiencing its effects. Even spitting in people's faces originated with written instructions from Hubbard. Hubbard designed Scientology to operate on the pattern of a criminal conspiracy, and it still does. Hubbard also designed it not to be fully comprehended by rank and file Scientologists, and it still isn't. What's remarkable about places such as Marty Rathbun's blog is that the folks there are "out," some for years, and still don't comprehend. The objective, apparently, is to institutionalize or, otherwise, sustain that lack of comprehension in a "group" called "Independent Scientology." It's very strange.

Not even the most ruthless criminals in various organized crime outfits will spit in faces, except if the spit is to be immediately followed by a bullet. They are big on respect and would never do that. The truely amazing thing is that nobody who was abused immediately reacted by kicking the little Ooompa Loompa's ass or even seriously trying to.

Pete

 

[Karen#1]

Laura DeCrescenzo was recruited in the Sea Org at the age of 12.

Married at 16, she fell pregnant when she was 17. But her employers forced her to have an abortion because of the ban on Sea Org members having children, the lawsuit alleges.

“Employees work 100-hour weeks in the business ventures of Scientology at far less than minimum wage. There are no contributions to Social Security or employee pensions, although there is plenty of money to pay Scientology’s Chairman of the Board [David Miscavige], private investigators and lawyers.

“Personal freedoms are restricted and severe punishments are used to keep employees in line… That is the context of this litigation.”

++++

By the age of nine, she was already working on staff at one of the movement’s centres, says the lawsuit. “She obtained a work permit and became effectively a full-time employee of Scientology from age ten.”

In 1991, at the age of 12, she was persuaded to sign the billion-year Sea Organization contract. Leaving her family behind in New Mexico, she flew to Los Angeles to start work for them there. She spent the next 13 years working for the Sea Org.

DeCrescenzo’s Sea Org recruiter had promised her she would be able to visit her parents and eventually have children of her own and raise a family.

These promises were never fully honoured, says the complaint.

+++++

“Work on the RPF is designed to control, coerce, punish, inflict emotional distress and break the will of the victim,” it says.

“The working conditions are severely harsh. Personal liberty is non-existent. Plaintiff worked on the RPF for over two years, which caused her significant emotional distress.” (For more on the RFP, see Section 10.)

The bleach incident was partly due to DeCrescenzo’s determination to quit the Sea Org after having failed to win her release from the RFP.

“Plaintiff spent over two years on the RPF and was headed back to the RPF when she escaped by swallowing bleach and pretending to be suicidal,” says the lawsuit.

Imagine a "CHURCH" where a person within has to swallow bleach in a feigned suicide attempt, just to be able to LEAVE !

Read More
http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/04/14-laura-decrescenzos-lawsuit.html

 

[Markus]

Thanks for posting the link to the Los Angeles Press Conference where a bunch of ex Sea Org Members spoke on camera to the media. Glibby, I believe you had a lot to do with setting it up long with Benny's Friend.

A really well done job. It is interesting how people are willing to go on record and on camera to tell their atrocities within the Sea Organization. When in the Sea Organization, no person is allowed to ever read the Internet, every read a newspaper, ever go to a public library, or even communicate with the outside world~~ freely. It is done with
"Ethics officers" listening in on private phone calls to families, mail inbound and outbound is read by the "Security" division. It is a completely controlled life. It is lock down.

Maureen was recruited in the Sea Org at age 16. She worked 80 hour to 100 hour weeks as in slave labor for cents an hour and kept imprisoned for 3 years before her final escape.

Maureen Bolstad has one of the more poignant stories and her videos tell it all (posted below) but I will summarise some highlights.

In the RPF her letters requesting OUT were carefully hidden within and not allowed out of the RPF. At one point in a flare-up Maureen punched the "Ethics Officer" of the RPF and in retaliation he grabbed Maureen's hand and smashed it on the table and broke it. He then smashed her against a book case injuring her ribs and in a continuing melee pinned her to a chair injuring her wrist.


THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE RPF. IT IS ALL CLOSETED, KEPT SECRET, NO WAY OUT, ASSAULT AND BATTERY NEVER REPORTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. RPF VIOLENCE IS KEPT WITHIN THE RPF AND NOT EVEN REPORTED OUTSIDE THE GULAG.

In a last ditch effort to protest against the slavery, the imprisonment, the insanities and atrocities, Maureen threatened to stop eating and sleeping so her body would DIE. This got their attention.

She did attempt an escape when the 2 bodyguards outside her imprisoned quarters left. She ran up the nearby creek and a full pursuit occurred with flashing lights and guard dogs.

The Sea Org personnel feel they have the right to pursue a fleeing Sea Org Member as if they had Federal Marshall privileges......hunt you down like an animal and force a return or LIE LIE LIE that you will be allowed to "route out" standardly. Bait and switch.

Listen to Maureen's riveting escape and capture

Part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrazhaNR5Xg

Part Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpAbLLi9vvs

My dear Karen,

Thank you for exposing all these horrible stories. This one is touching me even pesonally so very deep in my heart.

"She did attempt an escape when the 2 bodyguards outside her imprisoned quarters left. She ran up the nearby creek and a full pursuit occurred with flashing lights and guard dogs."

I don't know if you know who was one the responsible persons who imprisoned Maureen. Yes it was my brother Uwe. Karen I can tell you that when Uwe left us here in Germany 16 years young he was a handsome guy who was loving his freedom and respected his fellow men - he would never do such cruel things to anybody. Hubbard managed to transform him into a soulless robot who acted like this:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?2483-25-Years-of-Scn&p=75578&viewfull=1#post75578

I'm quoting from Maureens story here:

"I flew back to Gold and I went and pulled weeds for a while and then I went back to post. I did not even get a lower condition assignment. All that COB said was, "when is she coming back to post?" I was working on my planning for the new Cine Studio and on the re-make of the False Tone Arm Film when I noticed that I had not gotten a letter from my mother recently. I was very worried. I talked to AK about it up in Qual and she got ahold of Uwe, the Security Chf and got me a special OK to use the Security phone to call around and find my Mom. I found her. She had been committed to a high security mental institution. I managed to get her on the phone. She was in hysterics pleading with me to come and get her out. Help! She said. She stopped taking her medications like I'd told her to do, but the VOICES had come back again! And they were telling her to kill people, and so she called the police on the voices and the police put her in a straight jacket and committed her. She had very clearly become a danger to herself and others. The psychiatrist did not believe my Mom that her daughter, me, had told her to stop taking her meds. He felt that she could not be trusted to take her pills and so he was going to institutionalize her for the rest of her life!!!! Literally take away her rights as a California Citizen. My Mom urged me to call her psychiatrist and TELL HIM THAT I WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD HER TO STOP TAKING HER MEDICATION. SHE DID NOT DO IT OF HER OWN ACCORD. At this point Uwe said NO. He would not OK me to call my Mom's psychiatrist and tell him that.

What?!!! I had to save my Mom. I had to get her out. She was clearly not having fun in the psych ward! Uwe said it was "off purpose" for me to be working so hard to help my Mom. I should be on post trying to save the whole world and not just my Mom. I was so damn confused by all this. Isn't this what I was told Scientology was all about? Helping people so they wouldn't have to get oppressive psychiatric treatment and I was being expected to leave my Mom in a psychiatric ward for the rest of her life? I walked out of Uwe's office and my head was a blur. I didn't know what to do. I started feeling this detached feeling and colors and sounds became muted around me. Life got really "duled down" It was Odd."

"In the meantime, back in my own mind, I was having this horrible trapped feeling. I wanted to visit my Mom, my family. I was upset that my sister wasn't talking to me. I felt so isolated. I'd gotten some assists for the pain I was in and I got this weird idea all of a sudden, that maybe the reason why I was pulling in all this PAIN was because I had been cruel to my MOM! And I HAD TO go be nice to her, otherwise I was going to suffer and feel bad the rest of my life. She didn't deserve me not visiting her. She'd been promised by the recruiter that I would visit her every year. But in all of 14 years, I had only seen her for a total of 6 days cumulatively. So, one morning, I just packed a back pack, woke up early and ran away. I ran towards the mountains and I crawled under wild bushes and brush, crossed sand pits, hiked and hiked. I got to a clearing, a road, I was happy, I could just follow it to civilization. But the dog, Lady had followed me! Several teams of RPFers had been sent out looking for me when I had not showed up for morning muster. They could not have caught up with me. But Lady had been following me the whole time! Damn it! It was hard to be mad at Lady. She was just doing her job, being a guard dog and making sure I didn't get attacked by a mountain lion or something.

I suddently saw something coming down this road or fire break or whatever it was. It was the Gold Security SUV. Russ Andrus was driving it. I tried to dive into the bushes and hide and let the SUV drive past, but Lady stayed on the road and was practically pointing at me and wagging her tail. I called her name, tried to get her to hide with me, but she just barked when I said her name! So Russ found me. I didn't try to run away. I was exhausted and starving. I'd had no breakfast. Russ had some food inside the truck. I sat down inside the truck eating some french fries and peeling an orange he had given me. I told Russ I didn't want to go back to the RPF site. He said I didn't have to. "Cool " I said. He said that I did have to talk to Uwe, first, just to sort some things out. I agreed. He drove me back to the Ranch to meet Uwe. I said, NOT Back to the RPF site. Russ said OK.

When I got to the Ranch, Uwe was there and he sat next to me in the SUV. He said he originally wanted to talk in the Ranch Security office, but one of the kids had been red-tagged and Barbara Thompkins was using it to give him/her a session. I said, OK, fine. We can talk in the truck. Uwe said, so what's up? I said I wanted to go see my family. I missed them. I said I didn't think I wanted to be in Scientology anymore either. Uwe said that I coudln't just leave like that. It was called blowing. I said, who cares if I blow? I was sent to the RPF. That's like being fired isn't it? If I don't do the program, I'm not allowed to stay in the SO, nobody would want me. So who the F____ cares? We got out of the truck and walked around a little. Anthony Bolstad and Darren just happend to walk by. Ant saw me and smiled with a big smile and said "HI AUNT!" and I said, "HI ANT" back. I felt badly, weren't they my family too? But I really was not allowed to speak to them. Uwe wanted to get back inside the truck. I told Uwe that me and Scientology aren't mixing very well. If staying and doing the RPF Program was proper "Scientology", then I couldn't do it. I could not agree with punishing me. Uwe asked, "What about your husband Bruce?" I felt like crying. Bruce had not spoken to me since mid 1996, and I'd not even been in the same room with him since mid 1994. Uwe, it's not RIGHT that I'm on the RPF. I haven't harmed the church, I have always been a hard worker. You KNOW that. You know me! You know how hard I've worked in the SO. We've known each other for years, What am I doing on the RPF? Why did I really get declared an SP? Was I CSd for it? Did AK CS me to get declared? Or someone in RTC? I know I upset Bruce Bromley and he blew, but I had NO IDEA that he felt guilty about stat pushing the CCRD completions in the late 80's. No idea. I don't even know if that's why he blew, maybe he'd been planning it before I'd even got there! Why did it get blamed on me? Look, I just know that this isn't working out for me and I need to get on with my life.

Uwe, said, OK, I've heard all that you've said. We can deal with this. I want to show you something, we need to go to an office space. He started to drive towards the RPF Site! Uwe, I am not going back! He kept driving. Stop the damn car! Uwe said, "Look, I just want to use the trailer as my office, it's no big deal". He had me sit in front of him at a desk in the back of the men's dorm trailer. He had me read something. I don't even remember what it was. Then he told me that I was officially declared a Suppressive Person again. I said "What????" I got up and I left the trailer, I walked outside and I started to walk out of the RPF Site. I was just going to walk out. I said, "WELL IF I'M DECLARED, THEN I DON'T HAVE TO DO THE RPF DO I?" I'm going home. Tom Woodruff and another guy stopped me. Tom stood in front of me and grabbed my arms. I pushed his hands off of me and then I lunged at him and wrapped my hands around his neck. I started to choke him. I said, "Let me fucking go" And then someone had pulled me off of Tom and slammed me down on the ground really hard. I landed on my back. I started screaming, "I'm not BAD, I'm not BAD". I started to cry. Jean Disher came out and she calmly walked over and said, "Hey Mo, wanna go for a walk and have a cigarette?" The other guys had let go of me and I was just sitting in the dirt. I thought, OK, if Jean is trusted enough to walk around outside the RPF Camp boundries, then I guess I'll go with her. Jean told the guys, "We are just going to get some space, go for a walk, it'll be OK" She smiled. She seemed so calm, it was weird. The guys were all pumped up and hostile. Jean and I walked around a bit. It was a full moon. We smoked a cigarette. Jean told me a story about when she was a school teacher in Boston. I loved Jean's accent. It was a funny story. It made me laugh. She told me about her brother and how he got his picture in National Geographic for the renovations work he'd done as a weldsman on Old Ironsides. "My brother is a celebrity" she laughed. Jean told me how her best friend when she was on the East Coast was named Maureen and how I kind of reminded her of this other Maureen. I talked to Jean too about some funny stories. I told Jean what I thought was on the OT Levels and she said she thought I'd make a good reg. I said, "I don't ever want to do that!" and she laughed. I started to think about Jean and not just myself. Jean had a kid that she wasn't allowed to see. And she could not just walk out and be declared or she'd possibly NEVER see him again. Jean told me that since I'd showed up, since she somehow mystically was able to "handle' me well, she was getting more help on her program, more privelages, she'd been promoted to the RPF Qual In Charge. She didn't right out say it, but I figured it out. If I walked out right then, she would be screwed. So I agreed to go back."



I would like to emphasize that in my opinion Maureens story could have been a second "Lisa Mc Pherson case"- they locked her up several times but fortunately she survived this evil abuses - it is so important for people who just left this cult to see that it was not only their own life that was ruined by Hubbards crazy ideas. It can help them to get free from his "Soul Hacking" much sooner.

To all the lurking the newbies I recommend the essay by Caroline Letkeman about Hubbards "Soul Hacking" : http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source...w7k2LIKgaNGwYA

Thank you Karen for all what you are doing to expose the crimes of the Church of Scientology.

Love
Markus

 

[Infinite]

Suicide - The Scientology Disease

Yes, indeed, what Church leaves its adherents thinking they have no other option than meddling with suicide if they wish to escape? I wonder, are there any Exes here who *don't* know someone who has died by suicide?

Here's part of a larger list which can be found here:

1994 Gunnarson, Vicktor death Vicktor Gunnarson died somewhere between the 3 and 7 of January of 1994. Vicktor was the individual aquitted in the assassination in Sweden of Olay Palme, the high ranking Swedish politician. They are tracking Gunnarson's connection to Scientology. Detectives found a number of Scientology books at his place of residence. A reporter mentioned something about a $2 million offer to assassinate Palme being found or implicated or implied somewhere in his records.

1993 Argue, Michael psychosis In 1993, Michael Argue had two psychotic breaks. He became involved in Scientology in 1971. His first break was in the 1980s while doing OT levels at the LA Organization. He is living on Family Benefits (disability pension) for chronic depression. He is on Prozac for depression and valium and states that he looks forward to bodily death to escape his situation in life.

1992-3 Todd Hunter, Sue inducement to suicide Sue Todhunter was about 46. It happened around 1992-93. Her brother-in-law, Xxxxxx Xxxxx is now out of Scientology and lives in LA. (suspected "end-of-cycle" auditing)

1992 Luell, Mickey negligence Mickey Luell, a Scientology course supervisor, died of a flu but was at the time involved in Scientology auditing and processes. FACT's source is suspicious that Scientology prevented or discouraged his getting proper medication.

1992, Oct. Baker, (first name unknown) suicide A person with the last name of Baker committed suicide somewhere in Europe.

1992 name unknown attempted suicide FACT's source described a young guy who tried to conunit suicide in early 1992 at the Gold Scientology Center. He was in his teens to early 20s. He was a jumor of a guy named Ulf who was a foreigner, maybe from Sweden. This guy was in the mixing group with the sound people. He had brown hair, puggy and boyish looking, obviously young. Something happened to cause him to attempt suicide at the Gold Center.

1991, May Simon, Karen suicide Karen Simon died by hanging herself in London England in May 1991, shortly after she refused to sign a Sea Organization contract. She was preparing a negative report on Scientology at the time of her death.

1990-2 name unknown death A young guy at the Gold Land base died while taking high doses of hydrogen peroxide as part of some brain research project. They had to get an ambulance out to the Scientology Gold Center to haul him away. There was quite a commotion to get his body out of there.

1990, Sept. names unknown suicide Reported by the October 21, 1991 "DER SPIEGEL" and reprinted in the Newkirk Herald Journal. The last two paragraphs report a drug therapist who knew of two addicts who committed suicide after leaving Narconon, where the purification rundown was done. They committed suicide just after they left the program.

1986-8 Moro (Klinger), Cat psychosis Between 1986 and 88 Cat Moro (Klinger) became psychotic while on auditing and was taken to the home of wealthy Scientologist, Marshall Goldblatt, and kept there for months while she was psychotic. Her husband, Jim Moro, and she were both in the OSA/GO. Jim was in charge for tax task force which helped get them their IRS tax exemption.

Apparently, after 3 or 4 months at Goldblatt's Cat was transferred back to where she could be watched all the time and became a folder administrator at AOLA. These incidents all occurred between 1986 and 88. Maggie Butterworth is the person who supervised the situation with Cat Moro, the security risk who became psychotic.

1986 Rimando, Rodney CORRECTION suicide Rodney Rimondo jumped out a window at either the Celebrity Center or the LA Organization. Irene was the mother who allegedly got no settlement from Scientology. IN FACT'S JANUARY MAILING THIS NAME WAS INCORRECTLY SPELLED "RAMANDO."

1986 name unknown psychotic A young man m his 20's jumped from the Manor m Hollywood, though the report does not say that he died. He was a new recruit. There was a shore story alleging that he was a CIA operative sent to discredit Scientology by killing himself.

1985 Johnstone, Lee suicide Lee Johnstone was baby watched. He was a member of the Guardian's Office Staff m 1985 before he flipped out and committed suicide.

1984-? name unknown suicide Hawaiian mission holder was physically thrown out of his mission by three or four missionaires. Shortly thereafter he committed suicide.

1984-5 (last name unknown), Jean-Marc suicide In New York; some connection with Celebrity Center; involved with a girl who had joined the Sea Organization. He had pockets full of Scientology promo when he died.

1984 Baker, David. suicide Technical Secretary David Baker of St. Hill was an OT 3 in 1984. Committed suicide.

1982-84 Lionini, Paolo cancer At Ben Kugler's Florida condo, Paolo Lionira -- a staff member at Delphi Oregon -- died while on lines at Flag. Poalo wrote the book called Lepsig Died. He died in Clearwater, FL between 1982- 84 at 100 Pierce St #602 or 603. He was getting auditing at Flag while he had cancer.

1983 Cloud, David Orin death David Orm Cloud died on June 5, 1983 in a car accident. He was in LA for auditing before he died. He thought he was going to die. FACT's source said his comments were, "He thought he was going to die, because he was just giving up." She doesn't know much more. He was thirty years old. He was involved with the Better Baby Institute. He was involved in Scientology for 8 or 9 years beginrang in 1977.

1983 McCann, Terry Purification Rundown - death Terry McCann had his retinas detach while on the purification rundown from all the sweat outs and whatever they were putting him through. He went blind from this. He went into a depression from this and died or committed suicide.

1983 xxxxx Purification Rundown - injury "I nearly died on the Purif at the Boston Organization. I didn't know it at the time. I had a heat stroke in the sauna, stopped perspiring, teeth started chattering, and things kept blacking-out on me, visually. I put on all of my winter clothes and went back into the sauna (I was by myself at this point, as there was only one other guy on the Purif with me, and our schedules weren't quite the same), and I still felt freezing cold. I climbed from the basement to the second floor (lots of stairs) where the D of P told me that "the way out is the way through," and that's what came back from the CS, too. If the Admin who was supposed to see that I got back into the sauna, hadn't violated orders and forcibly pushed me into a cool shower, I might well have died, "just following orders." I had another heat stroke, or at least heat exhaustion (I had different symptoms, and the diagnosis varied between the two), in 1990. My last doctor suspected that I have hypothalamus damage - which can be neither tested nor treated. He checked my electrolyte reports from the last heat stroke, and he said that they didn't seem in a low enough range to have caused the damage he suspects. I've been too embarrassed to tell my doctor about the Purif heat stroke - it may be where I started having these problems - but I can't do a whole lot about it anyway. When I had a heat stroke on the Purif, the D of P was Jeannie Scoglio, the C/S was either Ken Sermo or Rick Siegal (spelling?) at Boston Organization. The Admm who pushed me into the shower/saved my life was Rich Gerard. Otherwise, I'd have died all alone in that sauna in a lonely comer of the Boston Organization basement. I believe that all of these people are still in Scientology, and most are still at the Boston Organization, Day staff.

1982 Brewer, Ed negligence Ed Brewer was involved in a car accident. Several other Sea Organization or Scientology Staff members were in the car with him. They left him in the car to bleed to death while they went back to the Scientology organization to talk to the people in the intelligence division, because they didn't know what to do. They didn't want to create a public relations flap for Scientology. When they did this, they failed to call for medical help. Brewer literally bled to death pinned in this car.

1981-2 Spheeris, Jimmie death Jimmie Spheeris died in an auto accident on approximately July 4, 1981 or 82. At the time he was on the Philadelphia doctorate course and getting auditing. He was a homosexual and was being given a lot of stress about being a homosexual and being in Scientology courses.

This somehow may link into the homosexual pressures that Travolta has been put under involving Scientology. It may not. The implication from the contributor is somehow the stress and pressure that Shpeeris was put under was connected to Scientology and his death. His sister was director Penelope Shpeeris.

1981 name unknown uncertain Chuck Newton called himself "Detective Chaz Dee" when he'd go snooping. I remember him telling me about a guy who lived near Willows or maybe Marysville, and both he and his dad were OT's.

1981 Maxwell, Robert and ????? cancer Robert Maxwell. Robert & his dad were Flag public. Anyway, xxxxx said that Robert's father developed terminal (I think) cancer, but didn't have to quit auditing because he heard (at Flag? I think so) that you could cure cancer by drinking rocket fuel, and he did, and it cured the cancer, and he kept getting his auditing. I don't know what happened to Robert or his dad after this, which was around 1981, I think.

early 1980's (last name unknown), Hugh suicide A male named Hugh (last name unknown), who was an independent C\S at the advanced organization of Los Angeles (AO), committed suicide.

1980-1 Duchette, Gay suicide In 1980, I received a call from Gay Duchette. She had left the Riverside Scientology Mission. She related to me that she had given all she owned to Scientology. When her money was gone she was persuaded get a loan on her home to continue with Scientology. When she could not repay the loan she lost the house. Her father, who had given her the house or paid the down payment for it, was in a rage. She said several men had kept her in a room trying to make her sign over the house to Scientology. She had due cause for a suit aganst Scientology. It was in big trouble over loans in Riverside but she was not strong enough to stand up to the pressure of a suit. I gave her what support I could. I wanted to talk to her father but she was against it. I put her in touch with another former Scientologist. Gay was unmarried so Duchette is the family name. I think she had a brother named Jim. She came to a CFF meeting in Culver City and may have visited our house. I spoke with her by phone several times. When I called sometime after Sept 81 I was told she had taken her life. Riverside is a long way from Redondo Beach so I cannot research Riverside records for date of death. This is the best data I can provide from memory.

1981 name unknown suicide (Reported by the actual C/S of the person who committed suicide) A female doctor from Flint, Michigan committed suicide. FACT's source remembers the person having problems with her boyfriend. "This women is still involved in doing some auditing. I don't know if she is yet willing to admit the upsetting influence auditing can be and the coercive influence."

1981 Streim, Melvin psychosis I went to junior high and high school (Belmont, MA, Class of 1969) with Melvin Streim. He went to Harvard, and I went on to my life. I saw him again in early 1981 at the Boston Foundation Organization, where he was on staff, probably Estates. He was completely spaced and barely remembered me, though we'd shared years of classes ("accelerated" and AP) together, usually sitting just two seats away. He vaguely remembered the name of his best friend (they were best buddies for at least 6 years) when I mentioned it. His second job (moonlighting) was as a bag boy at the Star Market on the Cambridge/Watertown line. He was getting worse and worse in Scientology, forgetting to shave, dressing in dirty clothes, and generally out-of-touch with reality. They off-loaded him around 1983 or 4. I don't know what happened to him. I tried to find his family in Belmont, but they've either died or moved. I didn't work very hard on that, but I've felt badly about him. Mel was always a bit of a misfit in school but he wasn't nuts. When he was off- loaded, he was defimtely schizophrenic, and broke. How does a former Harvard student, end up as a bag boy? Tragic.

1980-82 Hubbard-Horwich, Diana psychosis In 1980-82 1 was corresponding with Diana Hubbard Horwich who was definitely close to the edge in late 1980 and early 1981. I wasn't in great shape, myself. We kept exchanging hopelessly inane letters about the weather. I don't have any positive proof, but we had an understanding, a certain undercurrent where we were both severely stressed. I'll bet you can find people with more definite info. I can just say, yes, absolutely, she was having a very difficult time back then.

1980-81 Newton, Chuck psychosis My ex-husband, Chuck Newton, went nuts on audited NOTs. He was not very stable to start with, and he kept "going PTS" by "having problems" at work, problems where he just couldn't stay faithful, etc. He was miserable, and his behavior was just out of control. One night, he beat a litter of newborn puppies to death with a shovel. He felt that his behavior was out of control. We moved, but it didn't seem to help. We sent him to Flag to "get handled." He reached a "flat point" on audited NOTs (meaning: he ran out of money) and he came home completely bizarre. He sat and watched Cable Network News almost 24 hours a day. [ don't know when he slept ....

1980-81 Karr, Dale psychosis The woman my ex-husband is living with is Marilyn Fox. Her last husband--I'm trying to remember his name--Dale Cart or Karr, I think. Anyway, he was an ethics officer at some mission around LA, and in the mid-1980's. He cracked up one night and kidnapped Marilyn's two children plus the one they'd had together. He took off to another state. I don't know if she ever got the children back again, or what happened. I know that only one child is living with her, and the other two are still young enough to be at home, but they aren't with her. This is fuzzy, but I'm trying to think of everthing in case my pieces fill in the gaps of someone else's memories.

The people who will talk about Dale Karr/Carr are Marilyn's first husband's family, since her first husband was the father of two of the children who were kidnapped. His name is Chuck Peden, his mother is Lorena Peden, and his sister is Jonna or Janna Jones (Mrs. Steve ? Jones), all of Chico, CA. They don't want to talk with me anymore, due to my connection to Chuck Newton, who Marilyn's living with.

1980 Duchette, Gay vulnerable and bilked Gay Duchette had left the Riverside Scientology Mission. She related to me that she had given all she owned to Scientology. When her money was gone she was persuaded get a loan on her home to continue with Scientology. When she could not repay the loan she lost the house. Her father, who had given her the house or paid the down payment for it, was in a rage. She said several men had kept her in a room trying to make her sign over the house to Scientology. She had due cause for a suit aganst Scientology. It was in big trouble over loans in Riverside, but she was not strong enough to stand up to the pressure of a suit. Gay was unmarried so Duchette is the family name. I think she had a brother named Jim.

1980s name unknown vulnerable and bilked Jean (Mrs. Paul) Discher (then D of P, Boston Day Organization) told some woman from Maine (he hasn't remembered the name yet) that she would die if she didn't buy a certain service.

early 80's Clark, Robert cancer Robert Clark, tech sec fdn. in the Adelaide Cof S, had throat problems. He had been undergoing such treatment as being locked in all night because his stats were not up. He had been coerced into leaving his wife and selling some of their property to send money to Flag. Bob developed the cancer in the Organization before he left. I am in contact with his ex-wife who is a prominent musician recently retired.

early 80's Vigeland, Eric psychosis Eric Vigeland was in Scientology in Boston in the late 1970s and early 1980s. I worked with him on "The Show," a covert Scientology "free concert" at which we distributed Way to Happiness booklets. Eric had been a psych case, I think. He inherited some money, gave it all to the fund to help Mary Sue in the USGO/FBI lawsuit, and got a bunch of auditing as a "reward." He was not a very stable person, and even by Scientology standards, he should have been shown the door. Scientology knew Eric was not stable when they took him in, and it's not rlght to take every cent from someone who is ill-equipped to survive on his own in society. I expect that's why his parents left him the money, so they wouldn't have to worry about his care when they were gone.

1979 Marshall, Joe Lee psychosis In 1979, Joe Lee Marshall went psychotic on NOTS. Many many people back in '79 were going psychotic on NOTS, NED for OTs, and it was being suppressed.

1978-9 Griffin, John suicide John Griffin committed suicide on OT2 in Dallas. He left a suicide note. His wife's name was Avel Griffin.

1978-9 name unknown suicide The man who was in charge of Op-Z for the Portland Organization jumped to his death from the Freemont bridge in Portland. Specific details are unknown.

1978 Brown, Leila Laten suicide Leila Laten Brown, or Lila Leighton, (26 years old at the time) jumped from an apartment building several blocks from the San Francisco Scientology Organization. She had been receiving ervices there. Before commiting suicide, she went to the home of another Scientologist (FACT's source doesn't know the name). Her boyfriend at the time was a Doug Arth, who was also a Scientologist.

late '70s name unknown suicide A guy committed suicide in Royal Oak, Michigan.

late 1970s Gervais, Gloria psychosis Gloria Gervais (spelling?) was found wandering down the middle of Beacon Street (major, heavy- traffic street in Back Bay Boston, where the Organization is) while on auditing·

late 1970's McDonough, Jack psychosis Also there was Jack McDonough (again, spelling?) who was another person seeing space invaders all around, and that's while he was the Academy Sup, Boston Day Organization.

late 70's name unknown psychosis While I was at St. Hill an unknown woman was secretly escorted home to Germany because she had become mentally ill on the OT levels· I was told by a friend who was on staff. I don't remember which one though.

1977-1982 Mayer, Scott neglect According to Mayer: "Staff members were always ill-fed, ill-clothed .... I had an abscess in my tooth and I was being audited for it. I'm ready to go to the dentist, and I was being audited for it. I spent about a week, week-and-a-half, doing... what they call touch assists to get rid of the pain.. ·. And, finally... I was just delirious and--well, there wasn't any money for medical is what it boiled down to .... I went to the dentist... he told me I'd just made it... if it had been another day or so, I wouldn't be here to talk to you."

1977 Hubbard, Quentin alleged murder xxxxx is a former member of the intelligence division (B I) of Scientology. Spanky says Kennedy saw the Quentin Hubbard files. From what he saw in the files he believed that L. Ron Hubbard ordered the death of Quentin Hubbard once he reached the hospital, and was alive, after his suicide attempt. The reason he thought Hubbard had his son murdered (reading the reports from the people in Los Vegas) even though they were vetted he saw what he firmly believed was an operation to end the embarrassment of Quentin Hubbard.

1977 Hubbard, Quentin alleged murder This also parallels with another report we got where xxxxx said that Quentin Hubbard was going around the Land base telling everyone his father was insane. This could have provided the motivation for Hubbard (L. Ron) to take care of his son after he attempted suicide·

1977 Hubbard, Quentin alleged murder Another BI GO person who was OT on the Los Vegas Quentin Mission believed this same situation: that Hubbard's son was taken off life support or something like that.

1977 Hubbard, Quentin alleged murder Vaughn Young believes Quentin Hubbard was dead on arrival at the hospital. [So there is some conflict about what happened. Vaughn has looked over these reports. Quentin Hubbard lived but allegedly was murdered in his hosp room by Scientology members]

1977 Hubbard, Quentin alleged murder Quentin's girlfriend before his death (abt. 1976) was Sue Berstein, a CCLA Div. 6 reg. (If Quentin was gay, then he was bi-sexual or Sue was a shore story. But she was definitely in love back then, and I remember Q sending her flowers.) We used to jokingly say her name so it sounded like "Super Steen" so I don't know if I have the spelling right. But Quentin seemed to fail at everything. He just loved airplanes, period. He was secretly taking drawing lessons from Larry Gluck at the beach at Flag, so no one would know if he failed. Also, his former bodyguard (Scandinavian name ·.. I don't remember right now) said that it definitely was not a suicide. I have my own way of piecing together the story, and I agree that it might not have been suicide. But I don't have anything vaguely resembling hard evidence.

1977 Hubbard, Quentin suicide or murder I was told by a source very close to the family that he was found naked in the car and that it "was not murder." I confirm the report of earlier suicide attempts while in the SO. He was put in isolation for several weeks after his 1974 suicide attempt to "destimulate" and eventually then put on the RPF.

1977 Hubbard, Quentin suicide or murder About Quentin Hubbard. Denms Erlich has written that he was Quentin's auditor and that Quentin was going around declaring that his father was insane. Not long after that he was found dead.

1977 Hubbard, Quentin suicide or murder Arti Maren was the Intelligence missionmare handling the public relations around the Quentin Hubbard death in Los Vegas.

1977 Hubbard, Quentin suicide or murder Denms Erlich was the last person to speak with Quentin Hubbard before he lef~ Flag. Erlich actually performed a cramming function on him.

1977 Hubbard, Quentin suicide or murder Bruce Raymound was the B 1 guy who did the dirty work on the Quentin Hubbard death situation in Las Vegas. He is the guy who would know for sure and who would have been most involved in the dirtiest part of the coverup or the actual murder.

1976 Fenton, Becky inducement to suicide In the Boston Organization around 1976, Becky Fenton (Mrs. Bill Fenton, Jr.) was told that since she refused to have an abortion (so her husband could use the obstetrician/childbirth money for services instead) then she ought to go kill herself and "get it over with." Becky is probably still upset about being told to commit suicide. Becky lives around Brewer or Bar Harbor, Maine. I can probably locate her, if it's of any help. She has never done any major services, but her husband keeps wandering in and out of Scientology. His parents are Scienos.

1976 King, Noel psychosis Noel King went over the edge on OT3. He gave up an enormously successful career at a resort in the Bahamas, and moved to LA to be a full-time Scientologist. He was treated like a god, since he still had lots of money from the sale of his assets. Noel stopped being able to sleep properly while on OT3. I went for a walk with him in the middle of the night, down to Hollywood Blvd. He told me that he kept seeing himself being pulled into some sort of force field, and then back out of it, and he couldn't stop these pictures from flashing, and he couldn't sleep properly. This was around 1976. He also thought he'd been Jesus Christ and Napoleon, in previous lives. I don't know what happened to Noel. I saw photos of him in early Flag promo showing the diningroom, but when I asked about him in 1988, no one at Flag seemed to recognize his name.

1976 name unknown threatened suicide I remember that one of my C1 IV intem auditors at CCLA was graduated solely because he successfully talked one of his pc's in from a ledge on the building. At some point mid-session, she had gone nuts and decided to kill herself. I don't recall my auditor's name; I had him for just a couple of sessions, and they graduated him & he was gone. (Did they get him out of there to hush the tale?)

1976 xxxxx psychosis I went nuts on Power and Power Plus./Right over the edge. I thought I was moving through space, and that I didn't have my "new ability" under control. I'd be driving down the Hollywood Freeway, and I'd find myself in downtown LA, with no idea how I got there. Then I started itching all over, under my skin, like an allergy. My nerves were shot. I was the Acting ED of Larry Gluck's school, while he was at Flag, and I was rapidly losing my hold on reality. I went to ASHO to tell them that I was PTS or something. They put me in session, told me I was a "completion," and routed me out. No Reg cycle, nothing. I could barely scrawl the success story. I was in a daze. I quit Larry's school a couple of days later, and went back to Northem California, where it took me months to be able to function normally again.

1976 name unknown psychosis There's a guy in LA... he's well-known among "old timers" because he sits in Bob's Big Boy restaurants, writing pages & pages of reports to Scientology about space invaders & such. In 1976, I was introduced to him by Gary Rist, at the Big Boy in Glendale(?) and he was quite mad. He'd supposedly gone nuts on OT3.

1975-6 Rist, Gary psychosis I remember Gary Rist, a staff member at CCLA, had a breakdown. He had a major crush on me and kept going on drinking binges; HCO asked me to keep an eye on him. I went with him to visit his father one weekend, up at Bear Lake where his father owns a motel or something. Anyway, Gary got drunk and was physically abusive. I had a terrible time getting him back to LA, but I got him there, took him to SEA Organization berthing, and dropped him there. Regardless of HCO orders, I wasn't taking physical abuse. I don't know what happened to him. HCO never said anything about him again, and I never saw him at CCLA. The Disney Alumm Club might have a current address for him. Scientology - and his untreated alcoholism - ruined what had been a promising acting career.

1975-6 name unknown suicide A married man with money from the East Coast (PA or NY) shot himself to death after auditing OT levels.

1975-- Wilson (Kaup), Shirley various Shirley Wilson, ex-wife of David J. Kaup reports suicide attempt (1977), disruption of family (1978), and denial of needed orthodonic treatment to her daughter (1982).

mid 70s Gerrold, Bobby cancer Bobby Gerrold (spelling?), a good friend, died of cancer. I'm not certain when, but it was probably in the mid-to-late 1970's. He was at least OT3. Near as I can tell from accounts, he postponed medical treatment, kept getting auditing, and when he was obviously dying, they told him he couldn't get anymore auditing. By then he was bankrupted by the auditing, and it was too late for medical intervention anyway. Bobby was originally from Texas, I think. I knew him at Alan Walter's Salt Lake City mission.

mid-70sname unknown psychosis Some pc was crawling across the floor at reception in mid-1970s CCLA, making weird whimpering noises. Yvonne apparently saw the woman on the floor and cheerfully said, "Oh, that's just (name)." This was an enduring anecdote at CCLA, showing how "big a being" Yvonne was, and how tolerant CC was of "eccentricities."

1974 Dardano, Robert psychosis "I became a member of the Church of Scientology in 1974. In March of 1974 I was routed off the Church of Scientology staff for being PTS Type 3. PTS Type 3 is a Scientology term which classifies persons to be insane if they are anti-Scientology.

1974 names unknown murder At what was known as Old AOLA Organization on Brendo Street, two advanced orgamzation staff members were found murdered in the trash bin behind the building.

1973 Anderson, Kirk psychosis I was not at the mission the day (between July and October 1973) Kirk Anderson came in with a shotgun and threatened the SLC mission staff because we were alienating him from his new-Scio wife, Yolanda. However, I was there the rest of the time when Kirk and Yolanda first came in, through when Yolanda lef~ for the SO. Yolanda is the same person mentioned in "the informer," who's child was a victim of terrible Scientology childcare and I have her mailing address somewhere. Kirk was the ED of the Salt Lake mission for years, and I suspect he's still on staff there.

1973 Dalton, Jim psychosis Jim Dalton supposedly had drug flashbacks from going too quickly onto the mucusless diet in 1973. He was a Scio in Salt Lake City and Geri Knight (ED) told him that the mucusless diet was what he needed. I answered the phone at the mission a couple of times when he was talking about the visions he was having .... The mother of his son, Martha Tatum (new last name?), is an exec in Denver .... Others who knew that he'd gone nuts and he was on orders not to come into the mission: Dick Cook (course sup), Geri Knight (gd), Frances Godwin (D of P), Chuck Newton (course sup/auditor), Jay Gibson (auditor), Dave West (auditor), Hazel Dominguez West (auditor, course sup), Joe Duncanson (estates), Lindy Duncanson (public), Charlotte Sandoval (public), and others whose names I've forgotten. Hazel is still in Scientology and is a cab driver in Salt Lake City, and I've already mentioned Frances and Chuck. Joe & Lindy Duncanson are FSMs in Colorado.

1973 Surry, Steve psychosis Steve Surry (spelling?) kept having psychotic breaks, while he was the ED of Alan Walter's Salt Lake City mission. He'd be screaming his lungs out during sessions, begging for someone, anyone to help him. His auditor, Geri Knight, swore that he was just running out dramatizations, as if this was really good for him. I think Steve is still happily in Scientology.

1970's Robertson, Bill psychosis "Capt. Bill" (LA Organization and AOLA, t970's) is on your list. Surely he had a family somewhere who watched him go insane in Scientology. In the research of this rundown on Flag, Captain Bill Robertson had numerous psychotic breaks.

early 70's name unknown criminal acts In the early 70s, an older gentleman, a staff member either at the Mission or the Scientology Organization had a heart attack while he was in the building. The staff members were afraid that it would reflect badly on Scientology so they took his body out of the organization where he died, stripped him naked, stripped him of his ID, (she wasn't quite certain if they stripped him naked but is sure they took his ID) and put the dead body in a trash dumpster several blocks away.

1972 Gutmann, Mike suicide A set of twins were involved in Scientology and one of the twin brothers, Mike Gutmann, committed suicide.

1970's Patterson, Randy suicide Randy Patterson, former husband of Laurie (Best) Patterson, shot himself to death while on a Solo auditing level, probably the 'clearing course.' This was in the 70s when AOLA was located at the present celebrity center annex.

1970s Klein, Keith suicide A Keith Kline or Klein from the Detroit area killed himself by gunshot in the middle 1970s. He had done 'processing' and 'training' there and some courses in L.A. FACT's source remembers a Keith Kline or Klein who was a staff member, class IV auditor, and course supervisor on the ASHO briefing course who committed suicide. Keith's father committed suicide and he became very depressed over this. Keith got auditing at ASHO for this depression and suddenly left and went to Detroit where his family saw how depressed he was and possibly put him in a mental hospital. Then he came out and committed suicide.

. . . thanks L Ron Hubbard.

 

[Veda]

Re: Suicide - The Scientology Disease

Yes, indeed, what Church leaves its adherents thinking they have no other option than meddling with suicide if they wish to escape? I wonder, are there any Exes here who *don't* know someone who has died by suicide?

Here's part of a larger list which can be found here:



. . . thanks L Ron Hubbard.

Reading the link, I noticed that Quentin Schnehager's name was absent. He was the husband of Joan Schnehager. They were both Class VIII auditors, and were assigned the responsibility of running the Advanced Organization on Edinburgh, Scotland, in the late 1960s. He committed suicide, hanging himself, in 1969, after a Sea Org mission had arrived to deal with his being a downstat.

And then there's Susan Meister, whose name was on the linked list. She was shot dead through the forehead (Scientology insisted it was a suicide) on the 'Apollo' in 1971:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp6uh_mKLbA

 

[Infinite]

Re: Suicide - The Scientology Disease

Reading the link, I notice that Quentin Schnehager's name was absent. He was the husband of Joan Schnehager. They were both Class VIII auditors, and were assigned the responsibility of running the Advanced Organization on Edinburgh, Scotland, in the late 1960s. He committed suicide, hanging himself, in 1969, after a Sea Org mission had arrived to deal with his being a downstat.

And then there's Susan Meister, whose name was on the linked list. She was shot dead through the forehead (Scientology insisted it was a suicide) on the 'Apollo' in 1971:

Thank you.

Anyone and everyone - please - submit your data to the web site concerned so that the list can be corrected.

 

[Karen#1]

Do we live in the middle ages ?
Can medieval punishments be implemented with no law enforcement
Intervention in this new millenium?

The RPF (Punishment Prison Gulag) is worse than anything that can be said in words.

I was in it and I speak from having been IN it, not from the outside.
It is an intensely humiliating experience.
The practice of disconnection and shunning is done within the Sea Org
from Sea Org Members to RPFers. No communication permitted.
Spouse divorces the RPFer.
Instead of this program taking a few months, it now takes YEARS and YEARS.
As much as 8 to 10 years.
It is cruel.
It is heavy manual labor, with almost no pay.
An RPFer is at the mercy of his seniors within the RPF and is cut off from the world.
It is similar to a leper colony in the sense that that an RPFer is deemed a lower level
human.
If an RPFer is seen on the street, a Sea Org Member would avert their eyes and avoid looking
at the RPFer.
Because David Miscavige enjoys sadism and punishments, the RPF, the absolute bottom of the food chain
has taken "shit runs downhill" to a whole new meaning !

So the Story of Uwe Stuckenburg is painful and heartbreaking. Dead at 45 years after some years in the RPF with a serious medical condition.
Former Chief of Security at INT Base or "GOLD Base" whatever name for the
Church of Scientology main corporate headquarters, the home of David Miscavige who lives like a rock star
in a multi-million dollar palace.
No mercy. No compassion. No release from the RPF. His wife Laurisee is David Miscavige's closest aide and enabler and more.
Uwe left behind a family in emotional agony. Marcus who posts on this board and a MOM, Mrs Stuckenbruck neither of whom were given the full information of the death of UWE, Sea Org Member for 20 + Years or so.

Here is Uwe in happier days.

How does one die in the RPF abandoned by his wife at 45 ?

...to be continued

 

[Veda]

There is also TR-Ignore where auditors are trained in non acknowledgement, to switch off.

But it doesn't stop auditors from hearing or seeing the information.

It's pretty obvious that posts in this thread, reminding others that the deceit and abuses started with Hubbard, are viewed as "Dev-T" by some.

I can understand the strategic value of concentrating on Miscavige, but cannot overlook the desire of Independent Scientology to re-write History, with Hubbard the hero, surrounded by "SPs," busy undermining his work, until the ultimate "SP," David Miscavige, came along and "hijacked" the "only hope for Man."

So, I'll drop a post in now and then as a reminder of Scientology's actual pre-Miscavige history, and a reminder of its actual pre-Miscavige doctrine.