DM gone, now what?

[Iknowtoomuch]

Haven't any of you learned. (sorry I had to say it that way)
There will be a power struggle yet again and the next "leader" will push their way into power with more declares and injustices.
History repeats itself.

 

[Anne Ominous]

Personally, I see a number of parallels between CoS and Communist Russia. No srsly.

Equate Lenin with LRH. Charismatic visionary who set the whole ball in motion.
DM is our Stalin. Rises to power by removing those who should be in charge. Utterly perverting the original form of the organisation he distorts it into a totalitarian fascistic system wherein dissent and critical thought is absolutely forbidden, and any indication that you aren't towing the party line results in 'reeducation'.

After this incredibly bleak period for Scn, I rather hope we'll get a Khrushchev-type reformer. Someone who can give the group some dignity again, and weed out the toxic elements that remain once Miscavige is out the picture.

 

[HappyGirl]

Where have I been? I guess I was off enjoying my birthday weekend. I just found this thread. As usual, you guys are cracking me up!!

I'd like to nominate "Pitbull". (All three of them)

How do you know there are only 3?

The simpleton Tom Cruise would be the chosen one.

TC was my first choice. He is the first to show up and take charge at any accident.
Carnaubawax! You joined on my birthday!!

 

[Stably Exterior]

DM's Escape Strategy

Here's my theory for what its worth.

I believe DM has learned well from LRH and the last few decades of corporate CEO's.

Phase 1: Blow off as many people as possible with unbearable working conditions. This brings down costs. Eg: Int base crew complement has been knocked down to 20% of it's hayday (Note that percentage).

Phase 2A: Turn whatever goodwill remains in the Scientology public sector into capital under the guise of Ideal Orgs. It's a taken that all these new assets are ultimately under DM's control.

Phase 2B: Re-market everything that possibly can be - even the basic books and cassettes. Probably a new E-meter is also on the way.

Phase 2C: Pull-off a similar scam with training and processing (Eg Preps for OT 9 & 10) . He knows what once caused an Affluence GI stat is capable of doing the same again.

Phase 2D: Do a new IAS campaign based on the latest finiancial crisis.

Phase 3: Ensure a ship exists in international waters, in tip-top condition (read 'newly renovated') where he can retire to when it all goes belly up or things get a bit too hot legal-wise. Ensure IAS bank accounts ... etc are all located/controlled from here also.

Phase 4. Ensure that the secret property in New Mexico is well stocked up with food ...etc. The private landing strip makes entry into the US possible as needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trementina_Base
(Having a few celebs in one's pocket who have pilot's licenses would be handy too.)

All of these actions and more are being done concurrently.

What do you think?

Stably Exterior.

PS DM's favorite FEBC Law (from memory): "When all seems too grim, and you can't get your point across, and it just won't organise that way; you do have a tool - and that tool is: PR."

 

[Sir Facer]

WOW!!!!!!

Here's my theory for what its worth.

I believe DM has learned well from LRH and the last few decades of corporate CEO's.

Phase 1: Blow off as many people as possible with unbearable working conditions. This brings down costs. Eg: Int base crew complement has been knocked down to 20% of it's hayday (Note that percentage).

Phase 2A: Turn whatever goodwill remains in the Scientology public sector into capital under the guise of Ideal Orgs. It's a taken that all these new assets are ultimately under DM's control.

Phase 2B: Re-market everything that possibly can be - even the basic books and cassettes. Probably a new E-meter is also on the way.

Phase 2C: Pull-off a similar scam with training and processing (Eg Preps for OT 9 & 10) . He knows what once caused an Affluence GI stat is capable of doing the same again.

Phase 2D: Do a new IAS campaign based on the latest finiancial crisis.

Phase 3: Ensure a ship exists in international waters, in tip-top condition (read 'newly renovated') where he can retire to when it all goes belly up or things get a bit too hot legal-wise. Ensure IAS bank accounts ... etc are all located/controlled from here also.

Phase 4. Ensure that the secret property in New Mexico is well stocked up with food ...etc. The private landing strip makes entry into the US possible as needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trementina_Base
(Having a few celebs in one's pocket who have pilot's licenses would be handy too.)

All of these actions and more are being done concurrently.

What do you think?

Stably Exterior.

PS DM's favorite FEBC Law (from memory): "When all seems too grim, and you can't get your point across, and it just won't organise that way; you do have a tool - and that tool is: PR."

Well Stably Exterior, GREAT POST
You have really looked at this one haven't you. I have to say I aggree with you 100% and that was one hell of a post sunshine Can't wait till the IAS event is on next to see what the next campaign will be, Its getting interesting boys & girls PS: Will you marry me Stably Exterior? Maybe on some tropical Island

 

[Stably Exterior]

Well Stably Exterior, GREAT POST
You have really looked at this one haven't you. I have to say I aggree with you 100% and that was one hell of a post sunshine Can't wait till the IAS event is on next to see what the next campaign will be, Its getting interesting boys & girls PS: Will you marry me Stably Exterior? Maybe on some tropical Island

Well thank you very much Miss Sir Facer,

I kneel here in your gorgeous presence and whole-heartedly accept you hand in marriage.

Love and kisses,

Stably Exterior

PS: Now put the bins out - it's collection night

 

[Carnaubawax]

Where have I been? I guess I was off enjoying my birthday weekend. I just found this thread. As usual, you guys are cracking me up!!

How do you know there are only 3?

TC was my first choice. He is the first to show up and take charge at any accident.
Carnaubawax! You joined on my birthday!!

Happy Birthday!

 

[Pascal]

Next CoS Boss

A council would be good. How about elections in the SO to name the boss?

For all you ex SO here, what is the word about why DM is boss? Was he appointed by LRH, he's magically delicious, etc?

How do SO members and public tolerate a class IV, failed OTVII with little admin training as master of CoS?

 

[Jakadak]

Well thank you very much Miss Sir Facer,

I kneel here in your gorgeous presence and whole-heartedly accept you hand in marriage.

Love and kisses,

Stably Exterior

PS: Now put the bins out - it's collection night

That is soooo funny !!!

 

[Pascal]

 

[Iknowtoomuch]

A council would be good. How about elections in the SO to name the boss?

For all you ex SO here, what is the word about why DM is boss? Was he appointed by LRH, he's magically delicious, etc?

How do SO members and public tolerate a class IV, failed OTVII with little admin training as master of CoS?

Scientology is the same as any other organized religion, they need leadership.
DM is almost as sacrid as Ron but in a more brutal way. He promotes upstats even if they are downstat and they all believe it...because THEY NEED TO. Ron gave the impression that Scientology will not fail, yet he says in a few places it will if not correctly applied. Yet he also set up Scientology for a loss because of shit like Fairgame, the RPF and his idea that all illness and injury in caused by the mind or being PTS.

 

[Panda Termint]

How about we liquidate all the CofS assets, find all the hidden monies, give everyone (or their surviving kin) all their money back, make full reparations for damage caused, give any remainder to a worthwhile charity and finally put the whole sorry mess behind us?

 

[Iknowtoomuch]

How about we liquidate all the CofS assets, find all the hidden monies, give everyone (or their surviving kin) all their money back, make full reparations for damage caused, give any remainder to a worthwhile charity and finally put the whole sorry mess behind us?

I vote yay!

 

[Pixie]

How about we liquidate all the CofS assets, find all the hidden monies, give everyone (or their surviving kin) all their money back, make full reparations for damage caused, give any remainder to a worthwhile charity and finally put the whole sorry mess behind us?

Go Panda... Go Panda... Go Panda...

 

[Pascal]

...

Scientology is the same as any other organized religion, they need leadership.
DM is almost as sacrid as Ron but in a more brutal way. He promotes upstats even if they are downstat and they all believe it...because THEY NEED TO. Ron gave the impression that Scientology will not fail, yet he says in a few places it will if not correctly applied. Yet he also set up Scientology for a loss because of shit like Fairgame, the RPF and his idea that all illness and injury in caused by the mind or being PTS.

Thing is LRH was no Jesus. He was just a man. A somewhat great man but there have been greater and he himself has admitted this. DM is worse, he's just a glorified cop running a Church filled with beings whose postulates don't stick. I get an image of cave trolls guarding a priceless treasure and DM is the head troll.

As for fairgame, PTS and SP, they are loopholes to get rid of people that the CoS cannot handle. Thing is getting rid of people is out-integrity as CoS's mission is to salvage all so the CoS does not progress, stuck like the frog in the well, climbing a few steps by day and falling back by night.

CoS has yet to see a proper leader that exemplifies scientology in all arenas and that exemplifies life itself.

 

[Iknowtoomuch]

Thing is LRH was no Jesus. He was just a man. A somewhat great man but there have been greater and he himself has admitted this. DM is worse, he's just a glorified cop running a Church filled with beings whose postulates don't stick. I get an image of cave trolls guarding a priceless treasure and DM is the head troll.

As for fairgame, PTS and SP, they are loopholes to get rid of people that the CoS cannot handle. Thing is getting rid of people is out-integrity as CoS's mission is to salvage all so the CoS does not progress, stuck like the frog in the well, climbing a few steps by day and falling back by night.

CoS has yet to see a proper leader that exemplifies scientology in all arenas and that exemplifies life itself.

Oh no, I didn't mean like a Jesus figure (although I don't believe in the bible). More like a Pope figure. Someone to "control" things.
Frankly an organization like Scientologywould do very well to have several people who are incharge. Kind of like WDC was meant to be. Without a DM figure.
But isn't that part of the problem. You'd think Ron would have told more people than just a couple people at the top in Scientology who was to be in charge from there on out. That just doesn't sit right with me.

 

[Pascal]

Oh no, I didn't mean like a Jesus figure (although I don't believe in the bible). More like a Pope figure. Someone to "control" things.
Frankly an organization like Scientologywould do very well to have several people who are incharge. Kind of like WDC was meant to be. Without a DM figure.
But isn't that part of the problem. You'd think Ron would have told more people than just a couple people at the top in Scientology who was to be in charge from there on out. That just doesn't sit right with me.

Yeah, LRH sure left a mess! A council would be cool, with tech, admin and justice experts who could tour around Orgs and inspire the troops. I dare to think when was the last time DM toured Orgs to give them a pep talk or give'em group processing. LRH and DM are tiny beings that need enemies. A true leader sees a big game with no enemies where everyone wins in the now.

 

[serenityview]

Hi,
New Here. Glad to meet you all.
In answer to your question of what we would ever do without COB...? LOL. He was my kids babysitter at Flag. There are hundreds who can do as well as him...
But what would happen if a truly capable Being, dedicated to the actual enlightenment of Homo Novis....(New Man) were to rise up.
The question is how would we know him/her?
Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics? Who's dynamics!!! Via who's viewpoint!!! Who gets to judge?

 

[Carnaubawax]

Hi,
New Here. Glad to meet you all.
In answer to your question of what we would ever do without COB...? LOL. He was my kids babysitter at Flag. There are hundreds who can do as well as him...
But what would happen if a truly capable Being, dedicated to the actual enlightenment of Homo Novis....(New Man) were to rise up.
The question is how would we know him/her?
Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics? Who's dynamics!!! Via who's viewpoint!!! Who gets to judge?

Well Hi there OSA!

 

[Panda Termint]

Hi,
New Here. Glad to meet you all.
In answer to your question of what we would ever do without COB...? LOL. He was my kids babysitter at Flag. There are hundreds who can do as well as him...
But what would happen if a truly capable Being, dedicated to the actual enlightenment of Homo Novis....(New Man) were to rise up.
The question is how would we know him/her?
Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of Dynamics? Who's dynamics!!! Via who's viewpoint!!! Who gets to judge?

Welcome to ESMB, Serenityview!
Yes, your point is well taken.
It seems to me, after 30+ years as a scn'ist, that altruism is not part of the CofS lexicon.
It's always been the Greatest Good for the Greatest Number of CofS' Dynamics.
The continuing exposure of CofS' operation and the actual intentions and activities of the Scampires preying on society is all part of an ongoing enlightenment of Mankind.
Cheers, Panda