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I married a Scientologist. Or an 'ex' Scientologist. For years the difference can be confused. It wasn't all that hard to deliberately avoid issues, while at the same time making it clear that the avoidance is deliberate.

People come to their own conclusions at their own time; not because they've been 'convinced'.

Zinj

You MARRIED an X? Wow Zinj you are so full of surprises.
 

nozeno

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A treasure trove.....and the Go Button

Tonight I accidentally stumbled upon a small treasure trove of old FCDC stories ya may not have heard.

But first, a bit of background. My brother was on staff during roughly the same time I was involved but left about a year before me. I don't know how he managed to tear himself away from the unbearable hours, low pay, and ghetto like living conditions, but he did.

I found ESMB last November and I think I've mentioned about four times to my brother that I was posting and reading on this message board where ex scios can talk about the whole experience. Up until tonight, every time I mentioned it I would get something like this. "You fuckin' dudes gotta get a life." or "get over it." Well for some reason, tonight I must have hit his GO BUTTON and I couldn't shut him up. I think the mention of rats and and cock roaches got him going but I can't be sure.

In the interest of brevity, and since I hate long posts I'll just tell you one and probe him for more later.

I know many of you have been puzzled for the last 35 years about why Louie Bellucci walked with a limp and a cane. It seems that Louie was a drummer and he was coming home from a gig one night and was carrying some weed in a glass container in his pocket. I guess baggies weren't invented at the time. It's not known who was driving, but the car he was in was involved in an accident, the glass shattered, cut his leg and a staph infection followed, which all the kings men and all of the auditing couldn't handle. It didn't even help that he was good friends with "the old man." And you thought his only talent was borrowing cab fare from staff who had less money than him.

Now you know the rest of the story.



Stay tuned, moar stories about rats, roaches, junkies, whores and the Tours Course in LA.
 

Long Gone

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Louie Louie

I know many of you have been puzzled for the last 35 years about why Louie Bellucci walked with a limp and a cane. It seems that Louie was a drummer and he was coming home from a gig one night and was carrying some weed in a glass container in his pocket. I guess baggies weren't invented at the time. It's not known who was driving, but the car he was in was involved in an accident, the glass shattered, cut his leg and a staph infection followed, which all the kings men and all of the auditing couldn't handle. It didn't even help that he was good friends with "the old man." And you thought his only talent was borrowing cab fare from staff who had less money than him.

Now you know the rest of the story.

Hey, I'm always up for a good story, so I hope your brother can keep us entertained.

Somehow though this one doesn't ring true. I spent a fair amount of time with Louie -as did most of us probably - and he was not shy about recounting his days as a drummer. I doubt he would have withheld this vital info. My understanding, from him, is that he had problems with his sciatica nerve - a painful condition caused by certain spinal disks being out of alignment. I dont think the condition is caused by infection.

He was an imminently kind man and I took pleasure in hearing his stories. The first and second times anyway. He played with, or around, some of the greats back with DC had a lively jazz scene.

I always felt sad that he was estranged from his family. I'm not sure if his wife (ex-wife?) was still even living, but he spoke about his son occasionally. I dont think he had much contact with him and you could tell it was the cause of anguish.

Sometimes I wonder if he was able to re-establish a connection with his family before he passed. I like to think so. For me Louie was one of those people that I regret feeling too busy (and at times too important) to stay in touch with. I rather imagine his manner, which could definately be pestering, created different lingering impressions in other people.
 

GoButtonIsBlowButton

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Confirming NoZeno's brother...

Louie told me the same story. We were talking about weed at the time, right there in reception, and he went off about his leg. I never had the nerve to ask him about his leg.
 
I was talking to an old FCDC person tonight too. She told me about the time that Jeff Deitz, while wearing his minister suit, got into a fight with a person on the street. It was on the corner of Connecticut and S. She said people were walking by and watching what looked like a priest punching some guy.:omg:

The Anabaptist Jacques
 

Long Gone

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I was talking to an old FCDC person tonight too. She told me about the time that Jeff Deitz, while wearing his minister suit, got into a fight with a person on the street. It was on the corner of Connecticut and S. She said people were walking by and watching what looked like a priest punching some guy.:omg:

The Anabaptist Jacques

That's a story I could believe. Maybe he was fighting Richard Alexander.
 
Does anybody remember the name of the guy who was from Hawaii? I think he was the HAS for awhile. He also did the Integrity Processing Course, twinning with Conley Kelley. I think his first name was Al. Not to be confused with another guy from Hawaii named Rex.

The Anabaptist Jacques
 
Here is a Glen Smoak story. Glen was doing really well regging. He told me he had just seen the movie “The Sting” so his stats were in power. He was waiting for some guy who was on the comm course to come in with a check to pay for some auditing Glenn had closed him on. The guy was a German who was a pilot in the German air force (Luftwaffe). As the guy didn’t show up, Glen was pacing the floor. Finally he found out that the guy had dropped dead of a heart attack earlier that day. Or at least that was Glen’s shore story.

The Anabaptist Jacques
 

Zinjifar

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You MARRIED an X? Wow Zinj you are so full of surprises.

It's not surprising that I married *her*

It's surprising that she married *me*

After all, I was already a featured player on RFW and had OSA thugs following me around and she had no particular reason to want to have anything to do with 'critics'.

Who were not very nice about things anyway :)

Add to that that the 'Church' made her pay dearly for her decision and, well, that's what's surprising. That it still works too.

Zinj
 

Dulloldfart

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It's not surprising that I married *her*

It's surprising that she married *me*

After all, I was already a featured player on RFW and had OSA thugs following me around and she had no particular reason to want to have anything to do with 'critics'.

Interesting stuff. Maybe not on this thread, but it would be interesting to hear how you got together. And I never knew you were married to an ex either.

Paul
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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Mixed Marriages...

Interesting stuff. Maybe not on this thread, but it would be interesting to hear how you got together. And I never knew you were married to an ex either.

Paul
Perhaps a "Mixed Marriages" thread?

I too would be very interested, Zinj; and also your impressions and stories about life together as relates to the different mindsets. I have more or less the reverse situation, although we were married with almost grown children when I was "smitten" by the $cio "virus" - which I intend to write some things about soon. None of my family had the slightest interest and thought, for the most part, that I'd gone off my rocker. Most likely they were correct, now that I reflect on it!:omg: :yes:

EP
 

uncle sam

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Louie Bellucci

So the sciatica was his "shore story"

Cue the drum roll...ba da bing ba da boom

I'm going to commit "sacrilege "-may God forgive me for what I'm about to do-break an old FCDC commandment.

I could not stand "Louie Bellucci"-he bored me to tears- I often dreamed of yanking his cane away from him and to start beating him with it.

Is the old guard of "fcdc" going to banish me for saying such a thing about 'ron's" old friend? The roof of my house hasn't fallen in-no sudden heart attack -no seizures - I still live. My theatan is overjoyed as I've finally gotten rid of such a longterm "withold".

If you banish me please don't make me go to the "New York City-day org" thread. Oh- you say-there isn't one. Well how about the "aola" thread-oh you say there isn't one. Well- how about- you send me to the examiner so I can get my f/n recorded and on to write up my win. So sorry- Louie- you were "ron's" friend-not mine.
 

uncle sam

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To-Zinjifar-Congratulations!!!

I married a Scientologist. Or an 'ex' Scientologist. For years the difference can be confused. It wasn't all that hard to deliberately avoid issues, while at the same time making it clear that the avoidance is deliberate.

People come to their own conclusions at their own time; not because they've been 'convinced'.

Zinj

I am very happy to learn that you are married. You should on a daily basis get down on your knees and thank the stars and moon that she is willing to spend her life with you, Yes- you have a keen intellect-you write oh so well- you kindly help out us exes with our problematic pasts. Yet- I don't know how many gals would put up with that funny looking pink thing that rotates around on top of your head-frankly it creeps me out-but god bless the child who looks away - and only sees the good in you. You-sir- are a lucky man.
 

EP - Ethics Particle

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Know what you mean...

I'm going to commit "sacrilege "-may God forgive me for what I'm about to do-break an old FCDC commandment.
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I could not stand "Louie Bellucci"-he bored me to tears- I often dreamed of yanking his cane away from him and to start beating him with it.

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When I was around (years later - early '90's) he and some DB buddy of his were forever bumming $ for stamps, and looking for flyers to mail or hand out. They were both creepy and I avoided them like the plague. I remember Lou Dockendorf saying that she'd been giving (or trying to give) Louie a "session" and that he was completely hopeless. Well, no surprises there...

EP
 

Div6

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I'm going to commit "sacrilege "-may God forgive me for what I'm about to do-break an old FCDC commandment.
...deletions...
I could not stand "Louie Bellucci"-he bored me to tears- I often dreamed of yanking his cane away from him and to start beating him with it.

QUOTE]

When I was around (years later - early '90's) he and some DB buddy of his were forever bumming $ for stamps, and looking for flyers to mail or hand out. They were both creepy and I avoided them like the plague. I remember Lou Dockendorf saying that she'd been giving (or trying to give) Louie a "session" and that he was completely hopeless. Well, no surprises there...

EP

We had to keep the XDn tapes locked up in the FCDC acad. Louie at times would want to "listen to tapes", and LRH mentioned him by name and talked about his "case" on one of the XDN tapes.

Yeh, he got long in the tooth...came around trying to sell Scn bumper stickers, etc.....but he was a character. Reformed mafia type...
 
Uncle Sam, you are forgiven for your feelings about Uncle Louie.
Louie did bore and annoy a lot of people. But I liked him. I use to have nice conversations with him. I use to give him money for stamps for his letter writing campaign, but I also told him that if he wanted to score big ask the reges for money. (wink)

The Anabaptist Jacques
 
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