Since it's making a splash...do any of you remember Margery Wakefield? And if so-what do you recall?
Where/how is Dan Demming? I liked Dan.
Well, here's a site of some things she had to say: http://www.lisamcpherson.org/wakefrpf.htm
Hi guys.
I saw long-timer George Papaherekles (spelling?) for the first time tonight. He is an awesome guy and the same goes for his wife Dagmar. Unfortunately his daughter joined the Sea Org about 10 years ago and went to the Freewinds right away.
At least when you're at Gold you can always run away. Imagine what it must be like to be trapped on the friggin' Freewinds.
Anyway, I tried to convey to him my concern about his daughter. It went so-so. Here's the vid.; it's about half-way through:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUTcszl6qcg
Hi guys.
I saw long-timer George Papaherekles (spelling?) for the first time tonight. He is an awesome guy and the same goes for his wife Dagmar. Unfortunately his daughter joined the Sea Org about 10 years ago and went to the Freewinds right away.
At least when you're at Gold you can always run away. Imagine what it must be like to be trapped on the friggin' Freewinds.
Anyway, I tried to convey to him my concern about his daughter. It went so-so. Here's the vid.; it's about half-way through:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUTcszl6qcg
Hmmm.....for a brief moment, you had his attention. I would have played the Blue Asbestos card, instead of the violence at Int card, just because....
But when he started to run his scientological ser fac ("I am on OT VII....do you know what is on OT VII...") I'd ask him how long he was on the level, and if he knew how many were OFF the level as opposed to finishing it....
They were always nice people....too bad they are culturally illiterate as regards their own "church".
It's hard to come up with just the right stuff at exactly the right time. You could tell that AnonSparrow was flummoxed when he first starting talking to him - like "My God! One of them is talking to me! You mean I exist??"
It is fabulous what he is doing.
The fact that so many know him there, and he cares enough to stand there and try, week after week.
It's awesome.
Thanks Alanzo! I was caught off guard big time.
After it took place I thought about it and was sorta ticked. Blue asbestos was the best card but I didn't come up with it. Next time though...
It's hard to come up with just the right stuff at exactly the right time. You could tell that AnonSparrow was flummoxed when he first starting talking to him - like "My God! One of them is talking to me! You mean I exist??"
It is fabulous what he is doing.
The fact that so many know him there, and he cares enough to stand there and try, week after week.
It's awesome.
Wow...do you have any more info on this case? What she detailed would be considered a federal crime--kidnapping. I keep wondering why the cult has gotten away with so many crimes--why local, state and federal law enforcement does not pounce on them. Could it be true that the CIA is involved?
Big hugs to you! Thanks for posting the vids!Sparrow -
I like your communication concepts and your "Total Freedom" concepts.
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Or "What part of Total Freedom includes people beating each other?"
Or "David Miscavige beats his staff and you are totally powerless to do anything. What part of Total Freedom or Causative OT is that?
Or "Scientology is a top-down authoritative system where "The Chairman" beats up his staff members. And every one just sits around and watches him do it. Is that really Total Freedom?"
Or "Scientology can't possibly lead to freedom or enlightenment if its Chairman is allowed to beat his staff"
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