For the Rathbun "Believers"
- Thread starter Mick Wenlock
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Carmel
Crusader
Yeah, way better value than reading comic books about Xenu, or watching an episode of Flashgordon.
flashgordon
Patron with Honors
Yeah, way better value than reading comic books about Xenu, or watching an episode of Flashgordon.
I love you too Carmel.
Hi all,
And hi Mick, we haven't met but I have to say I could not agree with you more. Didn't expect to post anything so soon but I just cannot resist on this one.
I've been out a good while now and have only just heard about everything that has happened recently. Saw the haggis story in the paper today and have now caught up. I think...
I'll freely admit I'm not into the ex scene, annonymous etc, (sorry if that disappoints some of you) but I am not pro Scn or DM or hubbard either. The first 19 years of my life (born into the SO) where robbed from me so I'll take the rest back thank you very much. Humans may do crazy things Mr. Baker but I'm all out of crazyness so it's normal life from now on.
Anyways, I'm glad Marty is helping to get people out if he is but I cannot believe some of the BS he has come out with. In particular his whole take on DM running black dianetics and how he will do it properly! Seriously?
Firstly DM may be doing that but I doubt it. He isn't that smart. He really believes his own hype and Marty damn well knows that. But worse is the fact that Marty has in fact run black dianetics. I know. He did it on me and it was a real piece of work, full on gang bang head fuck psycho sec check with Marty standing above me ensuring I become a complete wreck. And I did. So did others. Of course this was under DM's influence but he did it. In fact I would be suprised if DM even knew how to run dianetics, never mind the reverse.
Also why give him all this credit for what is happening now? IMHO, other than DM and Cruisy themselves there is only one other person who is responsible for the unprecedented scale of the shit storm over the last few years. No disrespect to all the others but whoever posted that medal winner video on you tube started the snowball that is now, without question, an avalanche. IMHO of course. And it wasn't me (just in case you thought that) but I think I know who it was... I'll have to read that new book and see if I'm right
Anyways, not big on lurking so I'll crawl back under my rock now. Just had to say something on this one.
Peace and love to you all.xx
Thanks glinner for that info.
My opinion is that Marty wants to start his own little cult.
Smilla
Ordinary Human
degraded being
Sponsor
Can possibly be amended to HAS started his own little cult.
skollie
Silver Meritorious Patron
glinner.Hi all,
And hi Mick, we haven't met but I have to say I could not agree with you more. Didn't expect to post anything so soon but I just cannot resist on this one.
I've been out a good while now and have only just heard about everything that has happened recently. Saw the haggis story in the paper today and have now caught up. I think...
I'll freely admit I'm not into the ex scene, annonymous etc, (sorry if that disappoints some of you) but I am not pro Scn or DM or hubbard either. The first 19 years of my life (born into the SO) where robbed from me so I'll take the rest back thank you very much. Humans may do crazy things Mr. Baker but I'm all out of crazyness so it's normal life from now on.
Anyways, I'm glad Marty is helping to get people out if he is but I cannot believe some of the BS he has come out with. In particular his whole take on DM running black dianetics and how he will do it properly! Seriously?
Firstly DM may be doing that but I doubt it. He isn't that smart. He really believes his own hype and Marty damn well knows that. But worse is the fact that Marty has in fact run black dianetics. I know. He did it on me and it was a real piece of work, full on gang bang head fuck psycho sec check with Marty standing above me ensuring I become a complete wreck. And I did. So did others. Of course this was under DM's influence but he did it. In fact I would be suprised if DM even knew how to run dianetics, never mind the reverse.
Also why give him all this credit for what is happening now? IMHO, other than DM and Cruisy themselves there is only one other person who is responsible for the unprecedented scale of the shit storm over the last few years. No disrespect to all the others but whoever posted that medal winner video on you tube started the snowball that is now, without question, an avalanche. IMHO of course. And it wasn't me (just in case you thought that) but I think I know who it was... I'll have to read that new book and see if I'm right
Anyways, not big on lurking so I'll crawl back under my rock now. Just had to say something on this one.
Peace and love to you all.xx
Mick Wenlock
Admin Emeritus (retired)
nah, just a pale imitation cult I reckon.
Blue Spirit
Silver Meritorious Patron
Carmel Sees the Truth
I can't find the long post from CARMEL regarding Marty R. to Quote it.
Having just read it under another's quote of it, I'd like to go on record
to say that Carmel does see the Marty condition clearer than anyone
posting here.
I just finished Nancy Many's new book (highly recommended) and the way
she was Reverse Audited until she went Psychotic and then they tried to
give her more of the same after that is a worse crime than Murder and
ANYONE senior to those OSA bastards above "Joan" who did this to Nancy
is just as guilty, and undoubtedly Rathbun is one of those from his former
position. You look at his face on the screen and it looks dirty and he is dirty
with unspeakable crimes against humanity.
What makes me sick is how Sycophantically oriented Scientologists are in
general and now are again with M.R. (formerly, me too
)
Out of the frying pan and straight into the fire, just like CARMEL says.
Go read Nancy Many's new book and then look at your own crimes in
supporting the fucking "Church" and then ask yourself if you want to
continue that CRAP some more !!!!
I don't see anything Marty has done or is about to do that would begin to
atone for his crimes. I recall his and Rinder's talks at major events and their
disgusting and more than obvious NAZI VALENCE DRAMATIZATIONS.
I wish more would listen to CARMEL instead of resisting her and disputing her.
I can't find the long post from CARMEL regarding Marty R. to Quote it.
Having just read it under another's quote of it, I'd like to go on record
to say that Carmel does see the Marty condition clearer than anyone
posting here.
I just finished Nancy Many's new book (highly recommended) and the way
she was Reverse Audited until she went Psychotic and then they tried to
give her more of the same after that is a worse crime than Murder and
ANYONE senior to those OSA bastards above "Joan" who did this to Nancy
is just as guilty, and undoubtedly Rathbun is one of those from his former
position. You look at his face on the screen and it looks dirty and he is dirty
with unspeakable crimes against humanity.
What makes me sick is how Sycophantically oriented Scientologists are in
general and now are again with M.R. (formerly, me too
)Out of the frying pan and straight into the fire, just like CARMEL says.
Go read Nancy Many's new book and then look at your own crimes in
supporting the fucking "Church" and then ask yourself if you want to
continue that CRAP some more !!!!
I don't see anything Marty has done or is about to do that would begin to
atone for his crimes. I recall his and Rinder's talks at major events and their
disgusting and more than obvious NAZI VALENCE DRAMATIZATIONS.
I wish more would listen to CARMEL instead of resisting her and disputing her.
Blue Spirit
Silver Meritorious Patron
Good On You For Posting
Thank you for confirming what the circumstantial evidence so overwhelmingly
indicated. What you said is all that is needed to abandon ANY support of
Marty Rathbun. It would be par for the course to find out he is working also
for the CIA, IRS, and like groups.
For all of you MR believers out there LOOK again at Marty and look carefully
at the tenseness in his face and neck and his other body language and what
he's saying. HE IS A NAZI, likely making up for his lost game in WW II.
Hi all,
And hi Mick, we haven't met but I have to say I could not agree with you more. Didn't expect to post anything so soon but I just cannot resist on this one.
I've been out a good while now and have only just heard about everything that has happened recently. Saw the haggis story in the paper today and have now caught up. I think...
I'll freely admit I'm not into the ex scene, annonymous etc, (sorry if that disappoints some of you) but I am not pro Scn or DM or hubbard either. The first 19 years of my life (born into the SO) where robbed from me so I'll take the rest back thank you very much. Humans may do crazy things Mr. Baker but I'm all out of crazyness so it's normal life from now on.
Anyways, I'm glad Marty is helping to get people out if he is but I cannot believe some of the BS he has come out with. In particular his whole take on DM running black dianetics and how he will do it properly! Seriously?
Firstly DM may be doing that but I doubt it. He isn't that smart. He really believes his own hype and Marty damn well knows that. But worse is the fact that Marty has in fact run black dianetics. I know. He did it on me and it was a real piece of work, full on gang bang head fuck psycho sec check with Marty standing above me ensuring I become a complete wreck. And I did. So did others. Of course this was under DM's influence but he did it. In fact I would be suprised if DM even knew how to run dianetics, never mind the reverse.
Also why give him all this credit for what is happening now? IMHO, other than DM and Cruisy themselves there is only one other person who is responsible for the unprecedented scale of the shit storm over the last few years. No disrespect to all the others but whoever posted that medal winner video on you tube started the snowball that is now, without question, an avalanche. IMHO of course. And it wasn't me (just in case you thought that) but I think I know who it was... I'll have to read that new book and see if I'm right
Anyways, not big on lurking so I'll crawl back under my rock now. Just had to say something on this one.
Peace and love to you all.xx
Thank you for confirming what the circumstantial evidence so overwhelmingly
indicated. What you said is all that is needed to abandon ANY support of
Marty Rathbun. It would be par for the course to find out he is working also
for the CIA, IRS, and like groups.
For all of you MR believers out there LOOK again at Marty and look carefully
at the tenseness in his face and neck and his other body language and what
he's saying. HE IS A NAZI, likely making up for his lost game in WW II.
thetanic
Gold Meritorious Patron
We were trained to be judgmental about such things.
Voltaire's Child
Fool on the Hill
That is so very true!! But we also strive to have learned from our cultic past and so many of us say that we have left the Scn mindfuck behind.
Spirited
Patron with Honors
what she said.
dont know about ESMBers but definitely further down the line from int mgment. It wasnt a marty rathbun one man show by far.
Freeminds
Bitter defrocked apostate
I'm also very pleased that the asthmatic midget is at the helm. Long may he remain in place... assuming there's anything to remain in charge of, of course.
For all their squirrelling, too many Cheapzoners are Hubbard apologists and continue to be victims of the Sunk Cost Trap. By making changes, one of the squirrels might conceivably manage to rehabilitate the name of LRH, where his "church" has failed. Better that the cult remains monolithic - monoliths make a bigger splash when they fall.
AnonKat
Crusader
Because not everyone WAS MR- in his position of power and his enabling of DM. Until I see MR show some awareness of his complicity in what SCIO is now I am not willing to give him much on anything. I have admittedly not read his most recent book- but in his previous books one would have thought that the state of affairs sprung fully bloomed from DM and others- but the truth is that MR helped care for and feed the monster that abused people and eventually turned on him.
I have said this before- MR sets himself up as Martin Luther- but the analogy would only hold if Martin Luther had spent his priestly career as a Inquisitor in Spain torturing and racking Protestant heretics and turned against the RC Church only because the Pope imprisoned him and started torturing him. MR sat at the right hand of Lucifer ruling Hell and only "got religion" because Lucifer turned on him. Had wormbrain DM not turned on MR no doubt MR would be leading the OSA trolling expedition on posters here - trying to ID them and then have them disconnected with their families.
Until I read or Hear MR state publicly how he contributed and what his role was (openly) I stand waiting. And no free auditing will not count- I would rather have a typhus infected nail drilled into my head than let him audit me.
AnonKat
Crusader
Damn that rymes, I must be Dr Seuss
