Introducing myself

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

Believe you me you don't owe anything. If you count up the amount of hours you worked there you will find the Church actually owes you.

In 1981, I made a rough calculation showing that I earned about 10 000 kronor a year (including food and lodging) during the five years I was in the Sea Org. If I were to pay back my "free-loader debt" over the same time, it would amount to 25 000 kronor a year.

So count up the hours you worked for them, and then times this by the minimum or executive wage in terms of the wog world, and you will find its time to send them a bill from yourself, as it will surpass what ever freeloader bill the co$ actually thinks you owe and then you hit them up for what they owe you . Remember to add up all the ridiculous all nighters and over time too.
Then if your country believes in human rights in the work force, and has an ombudsman, let the Co$ know that you will inform them of all the illegal overtime done in one day, that is never actually recorded on time sheets, and this is how they get away with the gross over working and the slave labour that has been introduced....With out any over time, no medical really being paid for as they lead you to believe, no annual leave and the list goes on & on......:confused2:

Good advice. I'll think about it.

In fact if they had just left you alone you would probably not even be posting here like many of us .

Exactly. For the last quarter of a century, I have hardly given a thought to Scientology.

 

[Cherished]

For those of you who read Swedish: The article I wrote back in 1981 is now on the web:

Scientologikyrkan och dess "snyltgäster".

The next step will be to publish the correspondence I had with the CofS about my "free-loader debt".

Per-Olof, I know you are a professional translator - any chance of an English translation?

PS. I'm Anonymous.

 

[Blue Spirit]

GULL

The CO$ has more gull than any private group, of that I'm sure.

It is funny when you think of it that the CO$ by looking up all

of these old members is causing more "foot-bullets" than they

could possibly estimate.

 

[Ex_SaintHill]

Hi Per-Olof,

Welcome here. Nice Idea on the freeloader. I never paid a cent, and was not even asked about paying it. I'll never do it.

 

[Blue Spirit]

The Church Of Spiritual Technology

D.O.F.,
It is so obvious that the CST is a front group for the IRS,

so what is the fucking difference ???

Tell me what did the CO$ REALLY do to get tax exempt status

from the IRS, against all precedence of the law ???????

The only thing that is of any logical similar magnitude to trade

for that is the giving by the traitors DM and Norman Starkey of

all of the 10,000+ copyrights of LRH's to the CST, the "organization"

above the RTC, neither created by LRH for the purposes used now.

Meade Emory cooked up the plot in 1970. LRH predicted it in 1965,

reference available if anyone wants it.

D.O.F., if the above isn't true, what is your explanation of the truth.


http://sc-i-r-s-ology.com/founder.html

Read the above site.

"The lowest confront there is is the confront of evil." = LRH

 

[Dulloldfart]

D.O.F.,
It is so obvious that the CST is a front group for the IRS, <snip>

There is not one shred of evidence that anyone other than DM runs the CofS. Of all the people who have worked with him since the early 80s, and posted about it or made affidavits etc., there has not been one single whisper that I am aware of of him taking orders from anyone.

Read Larry Brennan's articles on CST for some facts. Easy enough to Google for them

The Veritas loons have their silly speculation but it is not based on any evidence, merely conjecture.

Why did the IRS cave? I believe it was blackmail from what I have read online, but I have no proof. The official story, as stated in the recent St. Pete Times spread, was that they agreed to do it in order to have the pressure removed of thousands of law suits filed by Scientologists at the behest of the CofS, but I read it was more than that.

Paul

 

[Mark A. Baker]

D.O.F.,
It is so obvious that the CST is a front group for the IRS,

so what is the fucking difference ???

No Way, Jose!

The IRS provides a valuable service to society as a whole and is nowhere near as suppressive in it's internal policy or external practices!


Mark A. Baker

 

[Cherished]

Per-Olof, your post was cross-posted on an Anonymous forum, and there's a discussion there about the possibility that Scientology has breached laws relating to data retention and transmission that you might like to listen in on.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/scientologists-reported-harassing-swedish-family-50115/

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

Per-Olof, I know you are a professional translator - any chance of an English translation?

Not at the moment, because I am simply too busy with other things. Maybe some time in the future.

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

Per-Olof, your post was cross-posted on an Anonymous forum, and there's a discussion there about the possibility that Scientology has breached laws relating to data retention and transmission that you might like to listen in on.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/scientologists-reported-harassing-swedish-family-50115/

Good!

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

My correspondence with the C of S from the early 80s is now also available.

 

[HCObringOrder?]

My correspondence with the C of S from the early 80s is now also available.

Outstanding letters!!

I hope someday you will translate your 1981 article to english.

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

There is one more response at the same "Anonymous" forum.

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

Here, also, is the letter I wrote the other day to the Director of Income at AOSHEU in Copenhagen:

I have received your letter of June 3, 2009, together with your demand that I pay you an inordinate amount of money.

Let us get a few points straight:

1. I left the Church of Scientology in October 1977. This is almost 32 years ago. I did not then intend to ever rejoin the CofS, nor do I intend to do so now. I am living a happy and productive wog life. The years I spent in the CofS I regard as the lost years of my life.

2. The matter of my so-called “free-loader bill” was settled in 1981, when I received a similar extortion letter from one of your predecessors. Since this is a debt that can accumulate over a period of one billion years, I agreed to pay it back over the same period. This means 0.05 Swiss Francs every one thousandth year. Your predecessor wasn’t exactly happy with this solution – but I also wrote an article about it, which was published in a Swedish magazine (“Sökaren”), and since scientologists are sensitive about bad PR, it had the effect that I have been left in peace since then.

3. You didn’t bother to specify the currency, but since I do not intend to pay, that does not really matter. I would just like to point out to you that if I accepted this demand, the amount is far beyond my financial means. Should I take the demand seriously, I would be reduced to begging my daily bread. And before you take the word “help” in your mouth you should consider the simple fact that economically ruining another human being is the exact opposite of helping him.

4. I have reported the recent attempts to recruit me back into Scientology (from you and from Rickard Helander at “I Help Europe”) to the Danish police. In the wog world, extortion is considered a crime.

I sincerely hope that this is the last I ever hear from you. Any attempts from your side to contact me again will simply be reported to the police.

 

[Adrian Pybus]

Very good letters and I really liked the article. I think I heard of the article but at the time I was still inside Co$ so of course I didn't read it at the time.

The payment plan is going to become a classic!

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

Actually, Christian Zülli also threatened to charge interest on my free-loader bill. (I did not bother to include this part of our friendly exchange.) But the point, of course, is that after my article was published, they stopped harassing me for those many years. I don't believe those bills are legally collectible, anyway, and what would happened to their precious PR, if they tried?

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

Another link for those of you who read Swedish:

Replik till Bengt Friberg om scientologin

 

[HCObringOrder?]

Just to let you know that we are reading your letters.
I do not know Swedish.

I think your word smith is brilliant!

 

[Dulloldfart]

I do not know Swedish.

Google does a serviceable translation of web pages between any pair of 42 languages, Swedish and English being among them. Just drop the URL in the box, select the pair of languages, and click.

http://translate.google.com/translate_t#

Paul

 

[Per-Olof "Sam" Samuelsson]

Google does a serviceable translation of web pages between any pair of 42 languages, Swedish and English being among them.

You can try it, but I don't trust those Google translations too much. Those I have seen look rather odd. But they might give a general idea.