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Mark A. Baker said:
Thanks for this, Magoo. I never knew these people, but I do know of Mittoff by reputation. In particular, I remember he was the 'respected class xii' who agreed to turn against David Mayo and justify his removal from post in return for preferment by Miscavige and advancement to Mayo's senior technical position.

The circumstances you described appear in keeping with his approach to handling others in matters of the tech and clearly contrast with that of David Mayo's.


Mark A. Baker
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FYI: What I'm describing happened in the 70's. David Mayo was not on the scene...at least that I (or anyone else, that I'm aware of) knew of.
Certainly if he was, I didn't know about it. This was before Ray became a Class X11

ALL of that came later.

Best,

Tory/Magoo
 
sallydannce said:
Hi Johnd :flowers:
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sallydance...you are SO sweet~ :flowers2:

I'm not sure why, but John stopped writing his story some time ago.

If you want to chat w/ him, my suggestion is to check him out on Facebook (if you're on it)

He's John Dries on Facebook...and I know he's been posting there for awhile.

((He's been picketing as such, so I don't feel like I'm "outing" him))

I KNOW that all of your support and just great responses meant a ton to him.

I'd love for him to tell more of his story---as he has some key things in his life that *hopefully*

He will share. (I knew him most of my adult life, as his wife (now ex-wife, she's still "in") was a dear friend of mine,
as was he---at least I considered him to be). :)

I understand if he does not want to...........it's his choice- but I just wanted you to know
you could go there and ask him to at least get up to OT 5 when things changed
for him, dramatically. I hope he tells that story. :biggrin:

I'm bad...........I'm REALLY bad :witch2:
But my intentions *are* good :thumbsup::happydance:

My best and love to all,

Tory/Magoo
 
Scientology Sea Org & DOUBT Pt 3 The Shocking TRUTH
Published on Oct 9, 2012

Meet John Dries, an Ex-Sea Org member who is speaking out, sharing some of his experiences within Scientology's "Elite" Sea Org. If you have questions or areas you would like answered, please post them in the comments, or PM me. Thank you John and all of you here :) My love, Tory/Magoo
http://youtu.be/nNFT64hokr0


Keeping Scientology Working Pt 5 The Shocking Truth
Published on Oct 15, 2012

This goes over "Keeping Scientology Working" and how that one policy is used to begin
the mind control in Scientology, and how. Thanks to John Dries for his observations!
http://youtu.be/840MCMRsnNc


Scientology Communication Course X Member Gives His Views

Published on Jun 2, 2012

Today we picketed at Orange County "Ideal Morgue" Grand Opening (which please note: Not One person went "in" after---so it's probably not done). This is an interview w/ my friend, John Dries and his views about the Communication Course, L Ron Hubbard and things. Hopefully he will do more in the future. Enjoy!
http://youtu.be/wv0nFtgm8T8
 
I've read two of your stories so far. I wanted to say how much I like your writing.

You had a sentence in Johnd's Story Part 1 that will have me laughing all day. Thank you.

It was:

"You had to "know" it worked because uh... just because"
 
I wrote this on Aug 22, 2014:
My dear, sweet roommate, John Dries, is transforming from this world into the next as I type. He's still alive, but probably not for long. He, with great gallantry, fought Lung Cancer for 3 years now. Tonight he is struggling for breaths ...even on Oxygen full time. Please do what you can do to help our friend make this spiritual transition. Thank you ALL I'm sharing a few photos of John's wonderful flowers, his gorgeous table he built, Elvis ...our cat we inherited from our neighbors. As the sun sets here....and people say, watching the big ship float farther and farther out: "There he goes"......
Never forget the ROAR of friends on the other side, cheering: "Here HE COMES!!" Blessings to ALL PS: There aren't enough words to thank those who have helped me, daily. You are angels.
— with John Dries.

And this on Aug 23, 2014:

Tory Christman
Yesterday at 1:31am · Like · 1
Tory Christman One of my interviews with John. More can be found over on the right, after you click on this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840MCMRsnNc
Play Video
Keeping Scientology Working Pt 5 The Shocking Truth

Tory Christman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-Vh3j8sys

At 9:12 PM John Dries finally passed from this world to the next adventure....whatever that may be.
He was surrounded by his family and loved ones...and was SO thankful for each of you and your kind comments,
which I read to him, today. Blessings and Hugs.......................Tory/Magoo
PS: FLY HIGH JOHNNY!!! :bighug:



 
I never met John in "real life", we were FB friends.
Kindness is the vibe I always get about him.

John also had golden hands of mad skill and was giving life
to flowers and trees. :rose: Hugs, Tory. :hug:

Rest in peace, John.

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Re: Johnd's story part 3

Johnd said:
Johnd’s story part 3




My delight in the ideas about thetans and the bridge didn’t make them real any more than my fascination with Gulliver’s Travels made it real.

I don’t see any real science in the modern science of mental health or in scientology. Where were the case histories, the studies, the cures?

And if scientology could produce real clears, and even ‘operating thetans’ why on earth did they want me to join the sea org? I was barely above the status of ‘wog’ (infidel).

But while these thoughts began, I couldn’t complete them. My ability to think was just too weak--too unpracticed and naive. I was adrift without power. Honestly, I was overwhelmed by the power of the group and its precious fantasies, by the inundation of tech and research and anecdotes about OT and past lives and Hubbard’s exploits and by the constant control, control, control that permeates scientology. Somehow scientology had become my tribe, my people, my matrix, my culture, my dialect, my thetans, and Hubbard my monarch. And so I had duties, could be called to arms.
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Hi John,

I totally relate to these statements. I could see so many things which I thought were so far fetched form reality, especially when I often made myself unpopular as I freely admitted I had an 'open mind'. I also was so freaked out when you could not query the validity of anything.
 
I met, knew, respected & learned from John back in 70's.

This world has lost a very fine man & the next one gained one.
 
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Beam-Me-Up-Scotty said:
Hi John,

I totally relate to these statements. I could see so many things which I thought were so far fetched form reality, especially when I often made myself unpopular as I freely admitted I had an 'open mind'. I also was so freaked out when you could not query the validity of anything.
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Hi and belated welcome! Glad you liked and could relate to John's post. Same here. Thank goodness we are free of all that crap. :thumbsup:

ps: Seems you missed Tory's and others recent posts in this thread. John passed away last week :bigcry:
 
Magoo said:
I wrote this on Aug 22, 2014:
My dear, sweet roommate, John Dries, is transforming from this world into the next as I type. He's still alive, but probably not for long. He, with great gallantry, fought Lung Cancer for 3 years now. Tonight he is struggling for breaths ...even on Oxygen full time. Please do what you can do to help our friend make this spiritual transition. Thank you ALL I'm sharing a few photos of John's wonderful flowers, his gorgeous table he built, Elvis ...our cat we inherited from our neighbors. As the sun sets here....and people say, watching the big ship float farther and farther out: "There he goes"......
Never forget the ROAR of friends on the other side, cheering: "Here HE COMES!!" Blessings to ALL PS: There aren't enough words to thank those who have helped me, daily. You are angels.
— with John Dries.

And this on Aug 23, 2014:

Tory Christman
Yesterday at 1:31am · Like · 1
Tory Christman One of my interviews with John. More can be found over on the right, after you click on this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=840MCMRsnNc
Play Video
Keeping Scientology Working Pt 5 The Shocking Truth

Tory Christman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-Vh3j8sys

At 9:12 PM John Dries finally passed from this world to the next adventure....whatever that may be.
He was surrounded by his family and loved ones...and was SO thankful for each of you and your kind comments,
which I read to him, today. Blessings and Hugs.......................Tory/Magoo
PS: FLY HIGH JOHNNY!!! :bighug:
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PSS: Re-posted for anyone who missed that John passed away, August 23rd at 9:12 Pm.
He was surrounded by loved ones and friends, and passed peacefully into the night.

I had read him earlier in the day the many wonderful comments from his many friends on-line.
I know it meant a ton to John. :heartflower:

Once more: :thankyou: ALL.........
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r01YiEgNa0

Today I go to pick up my friend of 40+ years and roommate the past 6 years, John Dries' Ashes. :bigcry:

For years he told me: "I wish I was dead...I have nothing to live for" (which changed once he got Lung Cancer 3 years ago).

May his extremely painful life be a lighthouse for anyone feeling the same: beware of what you wish for.
By the end...he would have given ANYTHING to change that.

And IF you smoke: STOP NOW! :thumbsup:

Smoking *does* kill and it's an awfully painful way to die. :yes:

:hug: to ALL :rose:

(Sorry for those who "hate being lectured"---it's your choice, just realize there ARE consequences and they are NOT nice).

LIVE TODAY~~And Johnny---May you Fly High :fly2::fly2::fly2:

:hattip: Meetcha on the other side, I hope.

PS: I just looked at the date this thread began, with John telling his story.
It began 4th July 2012, 07:23 PM. Prior to this he was pretty much keeping everything secret.
I reminded him of how Jesse Prince had Stage 4 Cancer and shared his experience with all on FB, and was getting better.
I knew John was an "Atheist" then.........but told him: "What IF people sending blessings, prayers, good
wishes do help?" I told him he knew SO much...and he needed to write *his* story.

I cannot tell you all how much he telling his story, and ALL of your kind and loving words meant to John.
Truly..........................it gave him hope and light. (<<< My observation, not his words) :thankyou::flowers::grouphug:

His son was born on July 4th. I always felt that was why he quit telling his story....he
was getting too close to having to tell *that* and as far as I know, he only told me it once--and I was
at UCLA the night his son shot himself to death and was brought there, and soon after pronounced D E A D. (1997)
He could barely say his son's name when I found him in 2000, once I escaped out.

Oh! I hope they get to meet up :) :hug: :bigcry: :bighug:
 
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