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Karen de la Carriere Hopes Leah Remini ‘Goes Public’

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Radar Online: Ex-High Ranking Scientologist Hopes Leah Remini ‘Goes Public’ With The Reason Why She Left Church
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...-remini-goes-public-with-why-she-left-church/

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Karen de la Carriere, the ex-wife of the president of Scientology and former church member, tells RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview that she hopes Leah Remini goes public with her decision to leave the religion.

“I truly hope Leah goes public, in whatever forum she wants to, whether it be doing media interviews, or posting messages on social media, with why she deiced to leave Scientology,” de la Carriere tells Radar.

“Leah is extremely brave to leave the church, especially at this point in her life. It’s my hope that Leah reveal her experiences with the church, and what fallout if any she has received from leaving. Leah was at Tom Cruise‘s wedding to Katie Holmes and knows a lot of information that the public would certainly find extremely interesting.”
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Karen wants Leah to know, “she just gained thousands of new friends and supporters. There is a world of support out there for Leah. She has stepped into the light and out of the darkness. She isn’t alone, and I’m so proud of her.”
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I hope the Truth Rundown gets more exposure and a re-enactment of how it occurs over days/weeks/months etc.
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I am still thinking about this.

Karen's video and another video I saw recently talk details about the truth rundown. I am not sure where the other one was. It covered the process fairly precisely. I think both these videos (actually the other one may have been an article? Ortega's site? )....anyway they show thought modification/thought reform .....would you call THAT brainwashing? It is difficult to get across to people the long term restructuring of cult victim's minds....BUT these two items show not the long term process but a concentrated form, which does not include endless hours of questions about general "incidents". It is interrogation style. The general public can get the horror of that very quickly. The truth rundown looks really really nasty! -with no person-on-a-self-help-course element to it at all.

I hope more comes out about it.
 
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degraded being said:
I am still thinking about this.

Karen's video and another video I saw recently talk details about the truth rundown. I am not sure where the other one was. It covered the process fairly precisely. I think both these videos (actually the other one may have been an article? Ortega's site? )....anyway they show thought modification/thought reform .....would you call THAT brainwashing? It is difficult to get across to people the long term restructuring of cult victim's minds....BUT these two items show not the long term process but a concentrated form, which does not include endless hours of questions about general "incidents". It is interrogation style. The general public can get the horror of that very quickly. The truth rundown looks really really nasty! -with no person-on-a-self-help-course element to it at all.

I hope more comes out about it.
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I suppose I could do a dummy TRUTH RUNDOWN session on YOUTUBE, but it's almost unbearable to watch as the person becomes more and more beaten down and apathetic...​
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*New Video*
http://youtu.be/FWw7jpp9SQ8
If the FBI had not raided the "Church* of Scientology and towed away the Guardian Office files, the world would never have known the depth of spying and infiltration that the "Church" was up to. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies.
But it was the depth of unconscionable conduct that a "Church" was willing to do that boggled the mind.

Some 30 Years ago a beautiful Paulette Cooper investigative reporter had 300 neighbors receive a flyer that she was a prostitute with venereal disease !
She was *ONLY* writing a book on her discoveries on the *CHURCH*.
They even painted her name and phone number in toilets in Manhatten so she received waves of obscene phone calls.
Part one is a series of 6 videos on the darker side of the Church with an IRS 501C 3 tax exemption.​
 
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Royal Prince Xenu said:
Why did you have to include that segment from "Battlefield Earth", or has that become part of Davey's new Kiss My Ass Run Down for OT9?
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Battlefield Earth was an all time disaster.
Named in 10 worst films ever over and over in various publications


After stating that Scientology Inc considers themselves the "masters" of Hollywood, where Celebrity Center is used to start careers and the President's Office is used to cater to these fledgling *stars"...I am being facetious to show a clip of the grand debut into film making...hence the clip....
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****New Video****

Geir Isene did everything required of him all the way to the *highest spiritual level* attainable in the Church "OT VIII". For 25 years while the "church" took his money, they were happy with him and used him to consult with on Internet matters. But when he spoke out, *overnight* they declared him a Suppressive Person, something they could not detect for 25 years !​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-bJrGEBSg&feature=youtu.be
 
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Karen#1 said:


****New Video****

Geir Isene did everything required of him all the way to the *highest spiritual level* attainable in the Church "OT VIII". For 25 years while the "church" took his money, they were happy with him and used him to consult with on Internet matters. But when he spoke out, *overnight* they declared him a Suppressive Person, something they could not detect for 25 years !​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-bJrGEBSg&feature=youtu.be
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What's the message?

Try it for yourself?

Scientology works?
 
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degraded being said:
What's the message?

Try it for yourself?

Scientology works?
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Yeah, it's a very odd interview the way it is edited. I have really enjoyed all the earlier interviews with Geir because they had a coherent and understandable message, delivered with his charm and intelligence. But this one…..ummm….mighty strange. Here's why. . .

The message that Geir delivers about Scientology's "tech" and "bridge":

1) Would be fully repugnant to COS Scientologists. (horrific tech degrades and squirreling)
2) Would be fully repugnant to Indie Scientologists (horrific tech degrades and squirreling)
3) Would be fully repugnant to Ex Scientologists (promoting the tech and OT levels)
4) Would be fully indecipherable to Wogs as to what the hell he is suggesting.


That last one (#4) is the most interesting.

Geir is NOT suggesting that the Bridge leads to Clear or OT.

He is NOT suggesting that the OT levels handle Xenu and BTs. He is actually saying (without being explicit) that the OT levels as written in "scripture" by Hubbard are a complete lie.

He is saying that HE was able to run the OT levels and do it in a way that is entirely different than what Hubbard wrote; a way that nobody knows or understands (since he never says what he did exactly) which gave him certain "wins" (which are vague and unspecified). I do recall in one of his blogs that he claims that the OT levels are a placebo, but that he would "do it again". Geir never explains why a placebo (which is known to be a placebo) can be done and done again with "gains".

A Wog listening to this would have no freaking clue what the hell he is trying to say. It's an awful mix of discordant & conflicted ideas that has a hastily added on "smiley face" that says "the tech can give you wins!" But he only really says that it can give HIM wins, not anybody else, necessarily. Kinda like a demolition expert telling kids in grade school that he gets "wins" on defusing terrorist bombs before they explode. What are they supposed to conclude? LOL.

As an Ex-Scientologist, I can only surmise that Geir is "in transition" from being a Scientologist to being an Ex-Scientologist and that this is one incredibly muddled and confusing part of his cult hangover.


 
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Imaging(imagining) and believing are activities which can affect one's feelings and views. A person certainly doesn't need to do those imaginings and believings in the scn framework to have those effects become 'win's. The real 'medicine' is what one brings to the table and what one does whereas scientology is the con/puppet pretending to be the master.

I am glad Isene is out and hope he continues to leave the con behind and continue to have his wins.

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Geir Isene announced that he is no longer a Scientologist.

I am observing this occur more often....years of bridge = EP End phenonena No LONGER A SCIENTOLOGIST !

Could it be connected to some of their more Memorable LIES ?

+++Scientology is expanded faster in the last year than it has in 25 years ~~look at the new Ideal orgs !
+++We have never enforced abortions
+++There is only a small handful of disgruntled apostates.
+++There is no such thing as disconnection !
+++We respect Priest/Pentient privilege and never violate the *sanctity* of a session !
+++Give us your money and we will make you into an advanced high level ethical spiritual being.​


 
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Karen#1 said:
+++Give us your money and we will make you into an advanced high level ethical spiritual being.
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THIS is the one that will ultimately do it in. IF scn actually created OT's (as originally defined), people would pay anything and do almost anything. But, since the entire premise that the Church was founded upon is false... :omg:
 
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Geir is no longer a Scientologist, but he's still enthusiastically promoting his "huge gains on the OT levels." He expressed the same view several months ago.

I don't think he realizes how many people, reading of his "huge gains," decide to do those levels - perhaps even in the CofS, after all, he did his inside the CofS.

He seems to be stalled on the bridge off the Bridge.

I'm not concerned about Geir. He's doing fine and, eventually, his awareness will change.

It's those who, reading or listening to him talk of his "huge gains," etc., who decide to do Hubbard's mind f__k "OT levels," that concern me.
 
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Karen#1 said:
Geir Isene announced that he is no longer a Scientologist.

I am observing this occur more often....years of bridge = EP End phenonena No LONGER A SCIENTOLOGIST !

Could it be connected to some of their more Memorable LIES ?

+++Scientology is expanded faster in the last year than it has in 25 years ~~look at the new Ideal orgs !
+++We have never enforced abortions
+++There is only a small handful of disgruntled apostates.
+++There is no such thing as disconnection !
+++We respect Priest/Pentient privilege and never violate the *sanctity* of a session !
+++Give us your money and we will make you into an advanced high level ethical spiritual being.​



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Acceptable Truths

Shore Stories.

TR-L

Lying masquerading as Ethics ("greatest good").​

SCIENTOLOGY: The only religion where you can't go to heaven unless your CSW evidences that you have products & upstats as a professional liar.
 
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