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Marthy Rathbun is a Human Being like you and me

Magoo

Magoo

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It never ceases to amaze me how words I say can be
twisted around to mean something 100% not what
I said.

Do you *honestly* think I am in the mind set of
"the greatest good for the number of dynamics"???

If you are, there's really nothing else left to say.

People .....read, look, listen make up your own minds.

You cannot lose then.

Don't listen to me, or he or she----LOOK.
LISTEN
LEARN

MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND.

Blessings TO ALL :flowers2:
My best,
:rose:
Tory/Magoo
 
Magoo

Magoo

Gold Meritorious Patron
PS: Ok, he deleted the post I was responding to---so
my last post won't make much sense---but you get the
drift, and I think he got the drift, too.

Thanks to ALL for your kind comments.:yes:

T
 
ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn

ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn

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This thread keeps coming back like a bad habit.

Every time I see it,

I still laugh at Marty thinking he's a civil rights leader,

because he got his drunk ass tossed in the can to dry out over night.
 
AnonKat

AnonKat

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Jesse Prince

Jesse Prince // July 31, 2010 at 9:29 pm | Reply

I sure had a good time having lunch with Marty here in Chicago. I seems we could have talked forever and I hope we do. My perspective on my life and experinces thus far have convinced me that it is far easier to treat another human being with indiffernece than it is to show some love to. Showing love is risk that assults our sensibilities. But on the other hand it surely offers the greatest reward. The fact of the matter is Marty is like family to me because of the amount of time we have spent working and living together. We were at is for years. During that time we have agreeded and disagreed just like regular family member do. We have a very large family that is just now starting to get together for the common good of us all. The future is a blessing that continues to unfold.

Love, Jesse Prince
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byte301

byte301

Crusader
AnonKat said:
Jesse Prince // July 31, 2010 at 9:29 pm | Reply
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We saw that already, AnonKat. Is this suppose to prove Rathbun is human? Does Jesse say anywhere that he's human? No, he doesn't.

And according to Babbles he is a clone. Are clones considered human? What does the scientific community say about the classification of clones? Has any country decided how they are to be classified?

Until I see some dox proving he is human I will have to use my powers of observation about the whole thing. So far I haven't observed him acting human. More like the lower regions of a human body. Maybe he'll work his way up...that's the premise of the title of his blog, right? He started as a heel...
 
Pooks

Pooks

MERCHANT OF CHAOS
byte301 said:
We saw that already, AnonKat. Is this suppose to prove Rathbun is human? Does Jesse say anywhere that he's human? No, he doesn't.

And according to Babbles he is a clone. Are clones considered human? What does the scientific community say about the classification of clones? Has any country decided how they are to be classified?

Until I see some dox proving he is human I will have to use my powers of observation about the whole thing. So far I haven't observed him acting human. More like the lower regions of a human body. Maybe he'll work his way up...that's the premise of the title of his blog, right? He started as a heel...
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Ya, when he's not being a dick, he's a dumb ass.
 
V

VaD

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There is a wise comment from Marta (from Jeff's "Thought-Stopping" post)

http://leavingscientology.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/thought-stopping/#comment-4311

Right! It’s a label that sums up a whole person in one word, like any other. In fact, I’ve really grown weary of all kinds of labeling. Like “he’s an asshole”. How about we label the behavior instead….he sure did act like an asshole, eh?
We’re all capable of behaving badly (some of us do so more often and much worse than others: DM). I would even rather refer to Miscavage as behaving like a stark raving mad man, or acting like a little Hitleresque, or some such, than an SP. Not to minimize, at all. But we could even say some one is psychotic, rather than a psychotic.
Labels are dismissive and have a way of triggering our not so nice human behaviors of prejudice so we can justify behaving badly toward one another.
The past 18 years I’ve worked in and around communities and community-building. One of the things I’ve learned is that every so often it’s a good idea to review the language culture to find what has become “dirty language”. These are the words and terms that may have started out as a descriptor or time saving term or phrase, and later morphs into a derogatory term that separates the user and gives them altitude. From there it’s a slippery slope to abuse, harassment, etc.
The Indie/Outie movement already has some slang slipping in there, like bot, scilon, koolaid drinker, etc. It takes more time and thought to continue to respect the person, separate out and call the behavior and discuss that.
Thanks so much, Jeff. What a terrific space this is to communicate in and what an awesome group of folks that post here. I am so grateful to have come through to here, alive and engaged in this process.
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I think this statement describes well whether or not Marty Rathbun is "allowed to be given a status" of *human being*

His words and his actions are quite aside from him being human.

Let's differentiate actions of beings from beings themselves, shall we?
 
Lulu Belle

Lulu Belle

Moonbat
I very rarely have time to read these boards any more.

And I really don't have time NOW, but I'm fucking off from the stuff I should be doing.

Marty.

OK.

Love him or hate him.

Demonize him or pedestalize him.

God.

This whole thing is just so...

BOB MINTON.

You know?

The guy may be a jackass. The guy may be a saint.

But, love him or hate him, he is definitely creating an effect.

Let's face it. Even the people that say he is 1) evil 2) worthless 3) not getting anyone out of Scientology...

....have posted hundreds of posts about him.

I don't know what to think about Marty. I see both sides.

But, in the history of taking apart COS, he will be on the timeline.

Whatever his motives, whatever his agenda, whatever his issues, he's created enough of a ripple that those who say he is "unimportant" seem to need to say it 1,000 times.

I have to say. Much as I agree with a lot of the negative stuff that is said about him, every time I see the photo of a face I know on his blog who is at least no longer in a slave camp and is leading a normal life, who is OUT, I am thrilled.

It's personal.

Shoot me.
 
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