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Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking PART 2

Boson Wog Stark

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That I *EVER* *EVER tried in any way to influence Marty's blog or offered him money to influence his blog is complete and absolute OSA Fantasy.
It was Marty that would call me up and say things like "I need a complete new computer system, can I bill it to the Amex Card ?

"I need to go on a trip, airfares will cost X amount of dollars, OK if I bill to the card ?"

Not once, ever did I EVER EVER ask Marty to post anything. The accusations on Ron Miscavige are completely distorted, altered and embellished and his deterioration into this is sad to watch


The question is : Can Marty work WITH and COLLUDE with an entity that shamed his wife in this way ?
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In answer to your last question, I bet he can, but his wife has probably agreed to it.

Thanks for setting the record straight, Karen. Marty is probably hating having to follow the OSA line about you. He probably thinks that because of the monumental tragedy you've been through, this betrayal is something you can ignore or shake off easily.

When OSA can't concoct that you are outspoken because you want more money, they try to attack you for your generosity. It's ridiculous! The lies about you are more elaborate, including the way Marty is spinning it, but they fall into the category of what Pouw was saying about Janet Reitman's book, that 99% of it was false, or whatever. Totally absurd.

And the reason Scientology wants to hurt or even stop you, is they consider you to be a major critical force. It kind of reminds me of what they did to Paulette Cooper. They didn't care that Paulette was an intelligent, creative, likeable person who was acting bravely in writing her book. They wanted to destroy her, anyway they could get away with. They took advantage of her every vulnerability and weakness.

Someone who is in a stronger position, such as Wright or Gibney, just turned the dead agent attack into acclaim and views of their work, along with exposing Scientology's nature in how they reacted to GOING CLEAR. I think Marty attacking you is too complicated and bizarre to even gain any real influence from the public who aren't following Scientology.

I think their main ulterior motive in Marty's incoherent slime attack is to make critics of Scientology, especially ex-members, mistrust each other. It's farfetched because Marty was not trusted by some of us, ever. In the last few years, he lost the trust of most people. No one knew what to expect. I expected a payoff, but I thought he would just go silent about everyone and anything having to do with Scientology, like Debbie Cook.

However, I think they may have tried something different, because they weren't satisfied with the results and consequences of how they did it with Debbie. It looked like a debacle and a loss for Scientology, including losing membership over it. Whatever they paid Debbie and her husband, it was nothing compared to the money Scientology lost because of Debbie's email and the aftermath.

They would like to make critics of Scientology paranoid about each other, afraid of speaking out, and scared of what Scientology can do to them, much like critics were years ago. They are hating seeing this new influx of ex-members speaking out on ESMB and other places because of Leah's show, and probably even more going UTR. GOING CLEAR was a blow, and Theroux's movie reached a different audience.

This may sound pessimistic, but I wouldn't be surprised if this worked for them, they went for Rinder next. Thank you so much for your courage in speaking out, and it is a relief to know you are never going to be bought.
 

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Here's my transcript of Pt. 12 of Marty's review of Leah's show. It's in a purple font. It sounds more halting and funny on the video. I'm going to comment between paragraphs in italics. For those who haven't watched the video, it might be better to just ignore my comments the first time while reading. Let Marty's ramble wash over you.

The tail end of Episode 3, at the AMA, they bring in Karen de la Carriere, who gives a big song and dance about her son and her former husband, who is her claim to fame, because he was the president of the Church of Scientology, who she’s been divorced from for 20 years? More than -- probably 25 years, and yet to this day she clings to as her 15 minutes of fame ticket.

Has Marty got the A&E network mixed up with the American Medical Association? Or does he mean an AMA Reddit forum? The theme of this segment is everyone going after their 15 minutes of fame, except Marty, of course. His fame is longer than 15 minutes. At this rate, might be closer to a trillion years.

And I think it’s appropriate to bring up now because the very next episode is about Ron Miscavige, because Ron Miscavige is the father of David Miscavige, who is now a hero in the ASC for turning on his son like a jackal. So she’s here lamenting her son and her previous husband, and we’re about to lionize her, which Karen de la Carriere has done with the rest of ASC -- Ron Miscavige as being a hero for going after his son.

"Jackal, lionize" -- sounds like Marty's talking about Wild Kingdom?

Listen, here’s the level of hypocrisy here. They literally, to a one -- Mike Rinder, the Headleys will come up later, Leah Remini, and I’ve already explained this about -- they all point the finger at their parents for quote unquote ‘getting them into Scientology in the first place,’ and that they’re all rational, straight people, that were subjected to this by their evil parents, right?

And so, but Ron, who’s the parent of David, since he’s on the ASC side and going after Scientology -- don’t apply to him. That rule, he’s the exception. He’s an exception, okay? He’s an exception to the rule. But he wasn’t always, because when he was on the inside, or perceived to be on the inside and he wasn’t out stabbing his son in the back, Karen de la Carriere offered me huge sums of cash to publicize on my blog an accusation that she made that Ron Miscavige confessed to her that he, indeed, raped a woman -- that he was indicted for-but charged with, but not indicted or convicted for, many years earlier.

Marty doesn't mention that he's also an exception. His parents didn't get him into Scientology. So what's his excuse?

Marty makes no mention that Ron covered all this stuff about the rape in his book. In general, it's difficult to tell whether Marty is talking about Leah's show, Ron's book, something someone said to him in person or via e-mail, or something he read somewhere. Also, I doubt whether Karen mentioned the Ron rape frecas to Marty more than once or twice, and it was probably in the context of wanting him to get the real story through his connections and contacts. Karen probably knew that there was an accusation that Ron had raped a woman, and that the Church or Miscavige had stepped in to get him out of it.

And as I do with anybody who wants to pay to play, and purchase what I have to say or not say, I told her no, okay? That was four or five years ago, right? So [laughs], I’m just saying she’s on Episode 3 as the cleanup for Paulette Cooper, ranting and raving about the atrocities of father-son -- mother-son relationships. But they don’t tell you that she’s the woman that tried to pay me to publish that Ron Miscavige Sr. confessed to having raped a woman. Okay. It’s just, it gets busy and it gets twisted.

WTF? Cleanup? LOL How could anyone possibly understand what Marty is babbling about?

Because the next episode is Ron Miscavige, who is now a hero, and his 15 minutes of fame come by condemning his child from the womb. And again, we have this propaganda by omission. We just -- just as, from the beginning they omit Scientology and what it does and what it’s about and what it’s for, they omit that entirely. With Ron Miscavige, we omit the first 16 years of David’s life, and it begins by, he says, he came right out of the blocks one day when he was 16 and said, “Dad, I want to go join the Sea Organization.” Okay?

...condemning his child from the womb. That wasn't in Ron's book.

Now this not withstanding the fact that Ron Miscavige has been on record for 19, almost 20 years now, with a publication in Florida, where he gave the whole background leading up to that decision, when David was 16, which also included a miraculous cure of a chronic asthma problem, which dealt with a lot of childhood travail and problems. All of a sudden, that’s gone and omitted. To make it sound bizarre and queer, all of sudden he says, when Dave -- the kid just pops out of bed and says, “I want to go join the Sea Org,” and he left, okay?

What publication in Florida? Why doesn't he name the damn publication? Was it Freedumb Magazine? Also, it makes it sound like Ron does not talk about David's asthma cure in the book, which is dealt with extensively. I think I know what Marty is getting at, but it is splitting hairs, a minor point.

Uh, he omits that Ron Miscavige considered, at that time encouraged it, that Ron Miscavige considered -- they didn’t position it like he was resistive somehow. No, he encouraged it. He thought it was the greatest honor you could possibly have was to be in the Church’s Sea Organization, okay?

If anybody, he felt -- you know, and we know in retrospect, that of course, he would -- that it would redowned (reknowned? LOL) his benefit somehow -- somehow, some benefits would inure to him by his son joining at an early age and rising through the ranks. He omits entirely the story that he told -- he’s been on record for for 20 years -- that the 16 year old revelation that David had was really sincerely backed by a concerned by the rampancy of drug in schools and the dead-end nature of where his generation was going. All right? He wanted to do something purposeful. He omits all that.

And so, you know, of all people, Ron Miscavige who acts like, you know, he really digs and understands the philosophical background and depth of Scientology? You know, if it were a natural thing, maybe he would say something about Leah’s pontificating and creation of scripture. But it doesn’t. She just lectures, because this is her gig. Quote, “No spiritual being is the father of another human being. Mother, father, son, daughter roles, all these roles are taken away and Scientology becomes your parent.” End of quote.

So she’s providing scriptural, I guess, justification for Ron turning and piling on his own son, right? Because after all, there is no mother, father, son, daughter relationship in Scientology. Again, chalk it up, and she’s been doing it all along, she literally just created this. She literally just created this. There’s no -- there’s nothing in Scientology that even resembles this and she makes it sound as if this is the actual tenets and holdings of Scientology.

Leah doesn't pretend it's scripture. She just gives people the gist of what's going on, what's behind the control.

[Laughs] So, you know, what’s remarkable is Ron had just gotten off a year world tour doing media stops, and because of the book that he had somebody write for him? He wasn’t -- he couldn’t even write a book. [Laughs] He had somebody else as a quote unquote co-author write the book, right? And he just goes right into the thesbian act with them because, I mean, he told me himself he wrote it in his book. He told it over and over again in I don’t know how many media, about this big harrowing escape he had, this dramatic escape, all the way down to the expressions of the guys he was conning to have to get around in order to get -- right?

Thesbian = gay female thespian? Oh Maaaty! And talk about the ability to write books. The same may be said of Marty as Gore Vidal said of Jacqueline Susann (Valley of the Dolls), "She doesn't write, she types."

Uh, he tells a whole brand new story. Brand new story, never heard of it. It’s not in his book. It’s not in the hours and hours of conversations he had with me. It’s nowhere. All of sudden, he says he got a Kindle from his son, right, for Christmas, and he turned it on and he did a Google search, and all it took was one Google search. Tells you the depth of this guy’s intellect, that all you do is one Google search and he changed -- he reversed his entire life for 80 years, okay?

Sometimes all it takes is one Google search. Marty could learn how to pronounce thespian by doing a Google search, and many other things.

This story is just, was literally invented for this. And I think it was literally invented in order to poke a stick in somebody’s eye because they say it like, what an idiot, what a buffoon Miscavige must be for giving his dad a Kindle without turning off the Google feature, assuming that he ever wanted to turn off the Google -- assuming that somebody was so shallow and unintelligent that it would take one Google search to change their -- change their entire psyche and everything they learned over 80 years.

So, you know, they go through this whole story about PIs allegedly being told by David Miscavige that if his father is having a heart attack during, it’s the stakeout, then don’t call the ambulance, right? You’ve heard this story, right? Well, when Ron told me of this story, I said, “Well, you know,” and I knew he was looking at doing a book and he had already gotten some media on this, I said, “Ron, I guess Rinder must’ve told you by now”-- since I get the impression he’s, you know, part of the partnership on this book deal, because he usually gets a piece of the action on anything like that that’s hot -- “that that never would happen,” since Rinder and I were in positions to know that, that David Miscavige wouldn’t talk to a P -- you know, in my 27 years involved with Scientology, he never talked to a PI, and there’s no reason to believe he would begin after that. Quite the contrary, right?

I think Marty may have covered the nitpick about Miscavige never talking to a PI before, but it's good publicity for Ron's book for Marty to bring up this interesting story. So Miscavige wouldn't talk to a PI, even if he thought his father was having a heart attack? Good to know. What a guy!

Ron was silent, right? But he goes over and tells the story again, right? Interestingly -- what’s interesting about this is when I exposed that, that he was on notice about that, then it was kind of clear that he’s just, um, that he’s just really grandstanding at the expense of his son in order to make a buck and get some fame. Um, this is where the harassment of the ASC really began with a vengeance on me. At this point when I published that, the blackmail, the infiltration, the raising money for P -- they all just went total -- the total treatment that they say Scientology does to others, they went there on this. So, this was kind of central.

The ASC did infiltration, blackmail, and raising money for PIs to follow Marty? The last thing was something it sounded like Marty started to say. LOL. Did the ASC send in Squirrel Busters, too? Okay, on a second reading I guess Marty may be referring to Ron, not himself, but it is very confusing. What would the ASC have to do against Ron?

And what I’m saying is he was on notice that this was an incredible accusation, long before he published it in a book, which was long before he got on this show, and they went ahead with it anyway. And Rinder is the producer and the director, and the guy I told Ron, “If you want to validate what I’m saying, just ask Mike Rinder.”

But he didn’t have the balls to say -- come back to me and say, “Uh, Mike didn’t agree with you.” Or Mike didn’t have the balls to call me and say, “I don’t agree with you.” No, they just, as if nothing happened, they just go with the story, because truth and getting it right has no meaning to them. Ratings, popularity and money, that’s all they care about.

Here’s the reality with Karen de la Carriere. I mean she donated to my blog. She continuously tried to get me to -- tried to influence what I put on my blog. I continuously told her that ain’t ever going to happen. “This is my running account of how I see things, and I don’t do things for effect,” okay?

I picture night and day calls to Marty, "continuously," trying to give him money. How do I get my number to Karen?

Uh, over time, I saw that she redirected a lot of that resource towards Mike Rinder and then to Tony Ortega. And particularly Ortega, I mean she was boasting and bragging to people that she owned Tony Ortega. She was boasting and bragging to people that she owned Mike Rinder, because of the amount of money that she had invested into them, and that she had kept them going, that they were -- I mean, she’s bragged about that -- she’s notorious for bragging about that.

Couldn't have been that notorious. I never heard about it. What a terrible thing, giving people money to encourage them to keep exposing Scientology's abuses.

And so, I think that kind of goes to the why she’s even in there. I mean, if you look at her in that AMA segment, she’s completely non-sequitur. What’s Karen de la Carriere got to do with --? Nothing. She knows nothing about it. Her story has nothing in common with it but she’s paid in heavily to two rungs of the ASC troika cluster, and so that’s the payback.

Is a troika cluster anything like a BT cluster? Can Scientology help with that? Well, I hope on my way to my 15 minutes of fame for transcribing this. I'd like to be part of the troika cluster somehow.

I personally think this is a glimpse into the "mind" of $cientology's Supreme Rula and reads like a fragment of that Great Man's thought processes.:omg:

Marty is just the messenger:yes:
 

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Fucking epic post, sir. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.


Sure!

As a matter of fact, your timing is excellent! Because this week, Don Hubbard, the Founder of the Church Of Hoaxology (see avatar), has declared an introductory, deeply-discounted membership rate!

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Thus, once a member, you are entirely free do DO or SAY whatever you like for eternity. All we ask is that you make the membership payment so that your exchange is fully in and you don't go criminal on us.
 
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Considering the number of Independent Scientologists supporting Marty - a small but not insignificant number - I think it's reasonable to assume that Scientology Inc. has infiltrated "Independent Scientology."


Will "Independent Scientology" become a new front group for Scn Inc.?
 

George Layton

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That I *EVER* *EVER tried in any way to influence Marty's blog or offered him money to influence his blog is complete and absolute OSA Fantasy.
It was Marty that would call me up and say things like "I need a complete new computer system, can I bill it to the Amex Card ?

"I need to go on a trip, airfares will cost X amount of dollars, OK if I bill to the card ?"

Not once, ever did I EVER EVER ask Marty to post anything. The accusations on Ron Miscavige are completely distorted, altered and embellished and his deterioration into this is sad to watch


The question is : Can Marty work WITH and COLLUDE with an entity that shamed his wife in this way ?

In answer to your last question, I bet he can, but his wife has probably agreed to it.

Thanks for setting the record straight, Karen. Marty is probably hating having to follow the OSA line about you. He probably thinks that because of the monumental tragedy you've been through, this betrayal is something you can ignore or shake off easily.

When OSA can't concoct that you are outspoken because you want more money, they try to attack you for your generosity. It's ridiculous! The lies about you are more elaborate, including the way Marty is spinning it, but they fall into the category of what Pouw was saying about Janet Reitman's book, that 99% of it was false, or whatever. Totally absurd.

And the reason Scientology wants to hurt or even stop you, is they consider you to be a major critical force. It kind of reminds me of what they did to Paulette Cooper. They didn't care that Paulette was an intelligent, creative, likeable person who was acting bravely in writing her book. They wanted to destroy her, anyway they could get away with. They took advantage of her every vulnerability and weakness.

Someone who is in a stronger position, such as Wright or Gibney, just turned the dead agent attack into acclaim and views of their work, along with exposing Scientology's nature in how they reacted to GOING CLEAR. I think Marty attacking you is too complicated and bizarre to even gain any real influence from the public who aren't following Scientology.

I think their main ulterior motive in Marty's incoherent slime attack is to make critics of Scientology, especially ex-members, mistrust each other. It's farfetched because Marty was not trusted by some of us, ever. In the last few years, he lost the trust of most people. No one knew what to expect. I expected a payoff, but I thought he would just go silent about everyone and anything having to do with Scientology, like Debbie Cook.

However, I think they may have tried something different, because they weren't satisfied with the results and consequences of how they did it with Debbie. It looked like a debacle and a loss for Scientology, including losing membership over it. Whatever they paid Debbie and her husband, it was nothing compared to the money Scientology lost because of Debbie's email and the aftermath.

They would like to make critics of Scientology paranoid about each other, afraid of speaking out, and scared of what Scientology can do to them, much like critics were years ago. They are hating seeing this new influx of ex-members speaking out on ESMB and other places because of Leah's show, and probably even more going UTR. GOING CLEAR was a blow, and Theroux's movie reached a different audience.

This may sound pessimistic, but I wouldn't be surprised if this worked for them, they went for Rinder next. Thank you so much for your courage in speaking out, and it is a relief to know you are never going to be bought.[/QUOTE]

Puts a whole new meaning on "Gag order". Sure makes me Gag.
 

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I see that the International Freezone Association now has a motto!

It translates to: "Preserve, Promote, Protect"


The purposes of the IFA (International Freezone Association) are to:

Preserve the exact technology and original workable philosophy of Lafayette Ron Hubbard for future use so it is available for all mankind.

Promote the exact technology and original workable philosophy of Lafayette Ron Hubbard so it may be known by all mankind.

Protect the exact technology and original workable philosophy of Lafayette Ron Hubbard so it is not altered, diluted or changed in anyway but remains exactly as Lafayette Ron Hubbard issued it.

Foster, promote and develop fellowship and mutual aid among the IFA members within the framework of the constitution.

Establish communication and understanding among the members of the IFA and members of other communities.

Promote and sponsor educational activities that alert and teach the general public about the exact technology and original workable philosophy of Lafayette Ron Hubbard.

Defend the IFA from any attempt to inhibit its existence and expansion from any quarter.

Assist in the defense of any of it's members in the event of any unwarranted legal process to the detriment of the member on the basis of the member's exercising their legal religious right to practice the technology and original workable philosophy of Lafayette Ron Hubbard.

Mediate in any disputes between members when requested but such mediation subject to standard ethics and justice policies as were originally issued by Lafayette Ron Hubbard.



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COMMENTARY: I noticed several things that I could recommend to the IFA to help them flourish and prosper!

* Your mission statement starts out so strong! You remembered to include the gravitas-inducing words "for all mankind" on the first two lines! Very Well Done. But, after that you forgot to mention "mankind" which is probably an overt of omission intending to sabotage all mankind, right?

* Another glaring outpoint! You committed another High Crime by failing to include the words "on this planet" at the end of each paragraph. I can no longer be suppressively reasonable about your counter intentioned-ness on helping Ron to achieve his dream, on this planet.

* Your logo! My God, I warned you about all this before! A) Why does your logo have a yellow badly pixilated lion that looks like it was a graphic reject from a 1970s Bulgarian pirated version of PONG? B) Why do you insist on cutting/pasting loser key graphics from the failed KTL course? C) Why the hell is there a fucking diamond graphic in there? LOL. That makes no sense at any level. At the very least, you could have just ripped off another Scn icon, like the waterfall from the purification R/D promo. It still would be entirely nonsensical, but at least Freezone Scientologists seeing it could have been brought uptone with the thought: "Wow, a waterfall, that is so theta!"​
 

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A waterfall?:nervous:

Perhaps a future OT level will handle it, but there is currently no tech available to deep etch a waterfall in MS Word image editor.
 

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The lion looks like it's covered in ticks.


:hysterical:

Excellent catch! There is, technically, much more to that than meets the eye! Because in the "BOOK OF E-METER ESSENTIALS' a tick can develop into a larger read or blowdown.

And that, my friend, can lead directly to a Floating Needle!

As a scientist, you would well appreciate the shattering impact Dr. Hubbard's discovery of the Floating Needle has had upon traditional physics! Before the first F/N was observed, the scientific community was held in thrall by Lavoisier's fallacious 1785 "Law of Conservation of Matter"--which laughably claimed that matter can neither be created nor destroyed.

The moment the first Scientologist erased the first engram back in 1950, it was scientifically proven that the PC had literally "as-ised" the electrical charge and particulate mass & matter comprising that mental image.

Fortunately (much like global warming) the science on Hubbard's work is no longer open to debate! Hopefully, you will join us in labeling any person who disagrees as an "F/N DENIER"! and lend your impassioned voice in helping us shout them off the stage at any symposium where they attempt to spread their bigoted, misogynistic, Islamophobic, racist, Xenu-phobic F/N hate speech!
 

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Sure!

As a matter of fact, your timing is excellent! Because this week, Don Hubbard, the Founder of the Church Of Hoaxology (see avatar), has declared an introductory, deeply-discounted membership rate!

Normally, it's $25,000, but if you get your payment in by Thursday 2pm, you are entitled to the "Deluxe Charter Member Status" for only $12,500. If you act now, you will receive the coveted COH lapel pin at no extra charge.

While the fee may, at first glance, appear steep to some, kindly keep in mind that the COH does not require you to do anything after joining. We do all the work! There aren't even any policies, bulletins, codes, scales or conditions to study--since the COH doesn't even have any!

Thus, once a member, you are entirely free do DO or SAY whatever you like for eternity. All we ask is that you make the membership payment so that your exchange is fully in and you don't go criminal on us.

That's a great discount! Is the lapel emblazoned with an upstat dumpster fire?
 

WildKat

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Exactly what skunks do to make everyone lose track of what they were doing and go away.

Hey, we need some Photoshop expert to get onto this one, it's too good an image to be forgotten.

Seriously, Marty's intended audience for these videos is very targeted. A relatively small group of people who have made GREAT impact by speaking out against the cult, people like Leah, Karen, Mike Rinder, etc. Marty is targeting these victims and whistleblowers. If they ignored him, he would hate it. He's going for their reaction.

The larger community (the world at large, exes who are getting on with their lives, and even Scientologists in good standing), will not even watch his dreck. Most would lose interest very quickly. It's confusing and downright BORING. It does provide for some comedy relief, though, which is why we need the "Marty the Skunk" meme LOL.
 
Seriously, Marty's intended audience for these videos is very targeted. A relatively small group of people who have made GREAT impact by speaking out against the cult, people like Leah, Karen, Mike Rinder, etc. Marty is targeting these victims and whistleblowers. If they ignored him, he would hate it. He's going for their reaction.

So in other words he's a troll trying to poke sticks in the eyes of critics? Is Marty's blog a troll farm where his sheep are provided with material to reaffirm their narratives (what a mimesis problem!)?
 

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Considering the number of Independent Scientologists supporting Marty - a small but not insignificant number - I think it's reasonable to assume that Scientology Inc. has infiltrated "Independent Scientology."


Will "Independent Scientology" become a new front group for Scn Inc.?

Unlikely. COS policy is that we are SPs.
 

Boson Wog Stark

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Since Marty's videos were linked to on a cult smear site, I presume that more active members will see them than the average entheta on sites critical of Scientology, such as Tony's site or Mike Rinder's site. The question is, what will they think of them? We may not know for a year or two.

When the Posse of Lunatics issue of Freedom Magazine came out, we know that it backfired. Many members in Scientology have doubts from time to time, and this issue of Freedom Magazine raised more questions than it had answers. Freedom Magazine has since revamped, and taken a much more moderate tone, focused outward on general issues in society and Scientology's grand plans to handle them, and not internal affairs about apostates.

They've relegated the smearing of people to their online sites, probably figuring that in that way it will attract only members who are curious about these things, instead of making everyone who gets Freedom Magazine start thinking about them.

In these older smear videos, whether it's saying something about Ron Miscavige or Leah Remini, a video smear of an apostate was carefully put together by the cult, and always featured a member in good standing, even if they were connected to the SP, like Paul Haggis' sister, and the character assassination was made in such a way to make a member feel confident the object of the smear was a bad person.

Some of the criticisms or complaints about Leah or Ron, for example, were petty, but they were explained clearly. I could see how a member would accept them without question. Why would someone lie about Ron splashing pee on the floor instead of in the urinal? Because that's just the type of guy he was, yup, didn't care about a fellow Sea Org member having to mop that up.

Marty's videos do not present clear anecdotal stories at all. Instead, in the second set where he's criticizing Leah's show, in the episode with Ron Miscavige, he'll skip from talking about something Ron told him on the phone or in person, to an incident Ron wrote about in his book, to a point Ron was making on Leah's show, to things that were known about Ron by others, and it's confusing to figure out what he's talking about.

Whether it was Ron and the rape, or Ron in the parking lot grabbing at his chest, as observed by the private investigator hired by Scientology calling what to do, both these stories would require the viewer to have read Ron's book or to have read a lot on the Internet about Ron Miscavige. On top of that, you'd have to have an accurate idea of what Ron said on Leah's show, a really good memory or have recently reviewed a video or transcript of the show.

So the idea of having a current member viewing a video like this may have a lot of unexpected consequences, and things we don't hear about until a year or two from now when they get out of the cult. I'm looking forward to hearing what active members think of these videos, and we probably won't know until they leave the cult.

Knowing Miscavige's penchant for micromanaging, I expect that he had a test run of Marty's video series before some selected Sea Org members, and maybe some Scientology attorneys, before he let Marty post these. They would all react by writing a review, claiming it was a scathing attack on the critics of Scientology, and what could be more devastating than a key SP like Marty turning on other critics? They probably tell Miscavige that criticism of Scientology could collapse overnight or at least be dealt a devastating blow.

Inside, they're thinking WTF? This is insane, but I'd better go along with it, or the next person they make a video about might be me.

I think a common reaction from some Scientologists who start watching the series would be that it is incomprehensible and boring, and even unhealthy for them to be thinking about such things. I think they'd have to be a real hardcore critic handler to get off on it.

If Miscavige's goal is for Marty to dead agent critics and himself in the process, close the chapter on Marty with a blow to critics, the part about Marty dead agenting himself will probably be successful. Marty doing it in this way could have a lot of unintended consequences.

Regarding Miscavige's role in this, it has a parallel with Trump's behavior. When a journalist or a beauty contestant says something Trump doesn't like, he wants to call them a loser, or smear them in public, in a way which is inappropriate and childish, especially for a president.

Likewise, Miscavige's behavior and actions are inappropriate for a leader of an organization that's trying to pretend it's a church concerned with helping others. But they both persist, don't they.

One difference -- Trump defends himself a lot. I'm rich. I'm smart. Women all want to sleep with me. No one reads the Bible more than Donald Trump.

Miscavige gets Tom Cruise to say he's the most intelligent, compassionate...
 
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Tanchi

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Unlikely. COS policy is that we are SPs.

Would COS inc. hesitate to use indies to help further its smear agenda? Im asking because I wondered at the domain change. Why would an Indie want to post on a site that's owned by CoS?
 
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