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Alanzo

Alanzo

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Out Ethics said:
Alanzo - you are totally picking the wrong target and it makes no sense. You are making a fool of yourself. Why don't you do something more productive. Would you want your son to get into Scientology? Mike is doing something about Scientology because Scientology does harm to families. If you watched the show on A&E, you would know that he already admitted he did really bad things in Scientology when he was under the influence of the brainwashing. Give it a rest, please? I really like you and feel you are an intelligent man...but this valence you have taken on that goes on and on and on is really weird, IMHO. You are coming across demented like Marty Rathbun (who took money from the cult in exchange for his strange behavior). Is that what you did? Please - Get deprogrammed from whatever hate mode you are in. It does not suit you.
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Outethics Officer -

This is probably stupid, but I am going to respond to you out of respect.

I don't care about who I'm supposed to be loyal to. I lost that when I got out of Scientology.

I don't care about people who are my friends only if they agree with me. I lost that too - getting out of Scientology.

In fact I never lost any of the lessons I learned getting out of Scientology. I applied those same lessons getting out of anti-scientology too.

I care about what I sincerely believe is the truth.

I'm glad you think I'm intelligent. If that's really true, and you aren't just blowing smoke up my ass, then please consider how someone you think is so intelligent would make such a fool of himself. Why would he do that? For no reason?

Is it because he's actually an idiot, or is it because he genuinely believes what he has to say to his friends is important?

Or both?

Over to you.

Thanks for your real reply.

Alanzo
 
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freethinker

freethinker

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Tanchi said:
I'm glad these threads will be archived. Everyone can see what happens to prominent critics. They are criticized, smeared, innuendo -ed from many places and many types of people, in, never in, indy, ex, Cos. As a never in, it's informative, fascinating.
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That's how the CoS works. Right Alanzo?
 
Alanzo

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
freethinker said:
That's how the CoS works. Right Alanzo?
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People evolve, learn things, and grow.

It's like a big dispersal.

People evolve and grow out of Scientology. And then they evolve and grow out of Anti-Scientology, too.

Hopefully, they can assimilate and integrate what they learned in Scientology AND Anti-Scientology and move on with all their treasure in tow.

Some can't. Some get stuck.

Don't get stuck.
 
freethinker

freethinker

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Alanzo said:
Ah. Lazy and dishonest.

Nice.

I'll do it for you then:

Trying to Warn Mike Rinder About Threats of Violence from Leah Remini's Scientology and the Aftermath
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I'll tell you, whatever stuff you have been reading lately, you ought to lay off it. From the responses, it shows that others that know you have seen a change in you and it isn't for the better.

Attacking people for what they haven't done when you have done little yourself is not the best way to spur people to action.

Your response that Mike is psychotic is irrational as has been your behavior the whole time you have been back.

You don't like not being the leader but in order to lead, you have to inspire people to follow. Instead you are making people distance themselves from you as fast as they can because they can see your attacks are without merit because you have no evidence to support your relentless attack.

You sound a little crazy.
 
freethinker

freethinker

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Alanzo said:
People evolve, learn things, and grow.

It's like a big dispersal.

People evolve and grow out of Scientology. And then they evolve and grow out of Anti-Scientology, too.

Hopefully, they can assimilate and integrate what they learned in Scientology AND Anti-Scientology and move on with all their treasure in tow.

Some can't. Some get stuck.

Don't get stuck.
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Then move on on, it's you that seems stuck.
 
Voodoo

Voodoo

Free Your Mind And Your Ass Will Follow
Alanzo said:
Worth repeating this question:
Why would she promote it in the pre-season publicity tour with Rolling Stones magazine and Hollywood reporter if, as Mike Rinder said they were "restricted"?

I've been watching Mike Rinder stringing people along, and making up these shore stories as he goes along, for 12 years.

It's amazing that so many Rinder Ninnies fall for them.
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It's Rolling Stone Magazine - not Rolling Stones.

Carry on.
 
Alanzo

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
freethinker said:
I'll tell you, whatever stuff you have been reading lately, you ought to lay off it. From the responses, it shows that others that know you have seen a change in you and it isn't for the better.

Attacking people for what they haven't done when you have done little yourself is not the best way to spur people to action.

Your response that Mike is psychotic is irrational as has been your behavior the whole time you have been back.

You don't like not being the leader but in order to lead, you have to inspire people to follow. Instead you are making people distance themselves from you as fast as they can because they can see your attacks are without merit because you have no evidence to support your relentless attack.

You sound a little crazy.
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There it is. It couldn't be what I have genuinely experienced. It couldn't be what I've written about with full-on proof.

It could only be, because you presently disagree with me, that I am crazy.

My message to you, FREETHINKER: You are too loyal for your own good. It is the same mistake you made as a Scientologist - if you were one. I don't even know because I don't know your story.

I'm only saying this to you out of respect:

You need to inspect the effect your loyalty has on your reason.

This is a greatest lesson I have learned after Scientology, and after Anti-Scientology.

Alanzo
 
freethinker

freethinker

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Alanzo said:
There it is. It couldn't be what I have genuinely experienced. It couldn't be what I've written about with full-on proof.

It could only be, because you presently disagree with me, that I am crazy.

My message to you, FREETHINKER: You are too loyal for your own good. It is the same mistake you made as a Scientologist - if you were one. I don't even know because I don't know your story.

I'm only saying this to you out of respect:

You need to inspect the effect your loyalty has on your reason.

This is a greatest lesson I have learned after Scientology, and after Anti-Scientology.

Alanzo
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Well there you have it, you say you don't know me, which you don't, and then proceed to tell me all about myself. How does that work Alanzo?
 
I told you I was trouble

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
Posted by @Alanzo ... You need to inspect the effect your loyalty has on your reason.
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Alanzo you have no idea how the people here reason.

No idea at all.

You only think you know.

I have no idea how @freethinker or @Voodoo or @JustSheila or anyone else around here really think about certain issues. When we post we are aware that every word will be permanent (after 24 hours) so I have no doubt that most are careful about what they say and how they say it (most of the time!).

Many of us are more concerned with the bigger picture and not with 'getting someone for real or imagined crimes against humanity' as you seem to be.

I don't need to know how each person really thinks because it's none of my business ... this is a message board full of individuals, we are not a cult (for the millionth time!).

Stop concerning yourself with everyone else and worry about yourself instead.
 
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Veda

Veda

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Alanzo said:
People evolve, learn things, and grow.

It's like a big dispersal.

People evolve and grow out of Scientology. And then they evolve and grow out of Anti-Scientology, too.

Hopefully, they can assimilate and integrate what they learned in Scientology AND Anti-Scientology and move on with all their treasure in tow.

Some can't. Some get stuck.

Don't get stuck.
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Tell us again how Scientology is a "minority religion," about how there's no undue influence in the Sea Org, and Miscavige's Scientology is not a cult.

Lol!

As you well know, when most leave Scientology they regard the problem as being management - the organization - not Hubbard's words, not the "tech."

As time goes by, and away from the speech and thought control of the cult, most realize the problem is deeper than that.

That's what Miscavige fears.

And that's what you're trying to prevent.


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Type4_PTS

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
Alanzo said:
People evolve, learn things, and grow.

It's like a big dispersal.

People evolve and grow out of Scientology. And then they evolve and grow out of Anti-Scientology, too.
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You keep pushing this same line over and over about:
People evolve and grow out of Scientology. And then they evolve and grow out of Anti-Scientology, too.

It may have been true for you and for some other people, but people don't all follow the same paths in life. Of course I'm sure that that IS the path that CoS desires for all of us. Just drop your opposition to Scientology and get on with your lives. And for some, that is what is right for their life.

But for others, when they realize they've been defrauded out of hundreds of thousands of dollars and/or years of their lives, and they've been part of an organization that engages in human trafficking, coerced abortions, fraudulent marketing, abusive treatment of staff and Sea Org members, ad infinitum, they choose to become a whistle blower and warn others, so others don't fall into the same trap.

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. On one hand you write that people should "evolve and grow out of anti-scientology". On the other hand, you criticize the top whistle-blowers for not doing enough.


Hopefully, they can assimilate and integrate what they learned in Scientology AND Anti-Scientology and move on with all their treasure in tow.
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If one looks at what their vulnerabilities were that led to them getting ensnared in the Scientology mindfuck in the first place, and addresses them as best they can so as not to repeat the same mistakes, that would be truly valuable.

What treasures should one take from exorcising alien spirits for 5-10 years of your life?


Some can't. Some get stuck.

Don't get stuck.
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And some get stuck in anti-anti-Scientology for years on end.

What's the next evolutionary step after that?
 
Glenda

Glenda

Crusader
Type4_PTS said:
You keep pushing this same line over and over about:
People evolve and grow out of Scientology. And then they evolve and grow out of Anti-Scientology, too.

It may have been true for you and for some other people, but people don't all follow the same paths in life. Of course I'm sure that that IS the path that CoS desires for all of us. Just drop your opposition to Scientology and get on with your lives. And for some, that is what is right for their life.

But for others, when they realize they've been defrauded out of hundreds of thousands of dollars and/or years of their lives, and they've been part of an organization that engages in human trafficking, coerced abortions, fraudulent marketing, abusive treatment of staff and Sea Org members, ad infinitum, they choose to become a whistle blower and warn others, so others don't fall into the same trap.

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. On one hand you write that people should "evolve and grow out of anti-scientology". On the other hand, you criticize the top whistle-blowers for not doing enough.



If one looks at what their vulnerabilities were that led to them getting ensnared in the Scientology mindfuck in the first place, and addresses them as best they can so as not to repeat the same mistakes, that would be truly valuable.

What treasures should one take from exorcising alien spirits for 5-10 years of your life?



And some get stuck in anti-anti-Scientology for years on end.

What's the next evolutionary step after that?
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I am chiming in and going to answer...(bad bad girl!)

The next evolutionary step is...

Dancing and sucking the juice out of life. Easy. Simple. It includes singing rousing renditions of Kumbaya, with good friends, at dinner parties (and no we don't drink a lot of wine).

Good. That's sorted then. ;)
 
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