I'm here to tell my boyfriend's story since he is currently stuck in
the "high desert" and cannot. For the time being I want his identity
to remain anon. so let's just call him John for John Doe lol.
John had left just last week, on Aug 11th. His brother was referred to
Sunshine Summit Lodge aka Narconon Warner Springs from a referral
hotline.
I looked at the website and it looked good and like he would learn something from the "life courses".
Now the night before he left I came across a few things online that
mentioned something about Sci. relations to Narconon. At the time I
didn't know the seriousness of it because I saw it for 5 mins and
decided to stop with the computer and spend time with J before he left.
However I did mention it to him quickly, and he knew nothing about
where he was going he said.
It wasn't until the morning he left that I googled some stuff,
expecting to find just simple reviews that kinda go "program helped,
food sucked" type of BS. That's not exactly what I found...
I don't have to get into the things that I came across because you all
are already aware. I was horrified to say the least.
I sent multiple links to his brother informing him on where we had just
shipped him off to. The more digging I did (and still am doing) the
more I am getting worried, and really PISSED off.
I contacted CRR, Mark from XENU, and Proff. T and they all have been so
kind and helpful sending me informative info ect. They are truly
awesome people!! (Thank you guys if you're reading this!)
John's brother thought they had no religious affiliation of any kind so
on that same night, he called up the facility and asked them straight
out
if they had any ties or affiliation with Scientology. They said NO.
LIED
plain and simple as that.
The next day I spoke with John's brother pleading with him to send him
somewhere else, that all he's learning here is Scientology! Telling
him about everything I learned, the unsafe Sauna, the Niacin, the
everything!
He admitted to me that I may have a point that it may be based on some
theories of Sci, but if it works so what!
He basically took and is still taking this situation very lightly.
I think he thought I was being paranoid so he made me call Josh. Josh
was the referral hotline dude. Josh was no help, I new right away what
his deal was because he was waaayyy too biased and defensive over
Narconon. He did admit that Narconon was based on some theories of
Sci. I asked him why they lied to us and he said that it was probably
the way we asked?!
The rest of the convo was filled with useless crap bc all he did was
talk over me, get extremely defensive over Narconon (yet claiming to
have no ties to them other then going years ago).
I told Mark B about the convoo and he dug up that the number is owned
by Narconon and registered under a a Sci. I knew what to look out for
beforehand, and get other info thanks to CRR.
I immediately emailed this info to John's brother! Instead of
getting help choosing the best place for John, his brother basically
called Narconon directly to hear a good pitch from a salesman.
I wanted to scream at this point because wrong just isn't the word for
it anymore. These people are really getting under my skin at this point!
Over the past few days I have been in contact with my boyfriend.
The first day he was at the Dr getting a full phys. I talked to him the
next day and by the end of his first day at the actual facility he was
complaining. He said he was seeing weird things, people do weird
things. ect.
I had to tell him that "thing" I brought up to him before he left, that
it runs much deeper. He responded back to me with "I know TRUST ME, now
I KNOW"
Then the director of the facility, Marty, wanted to speak to me.
Nothing was anything of importance that I can remember in the convo
other than towards the end him repeating to me THREE times in different
words, that if
John complaints about weird stuff going on to call him and ask him
directly and he'll clear it up! (how convienient)
On Friday I spoke with John again throughout the day. He was
complaining about them making him stare at people, ect. Basically he
started Book 1 of the TR's. (Thank's to the leaked books on here I can
stay one step ahead so I know what they are going to make him do I just
need book2 and 4a seems to be the same as book1)
He started telling me about how all the books were by Hubbard, ect. He
then told me that he had gotten yelled at earlier in the day by a staff
member.
He went over by the pool area to just walk around and relax and one of
the staff members was holding a course session for book 4a I think and
they freaked out on John, and said he "can't be over there and that he
needs to leave!!!!". THey didn't want him to see what was going on I guess.
My bf told him in a nice way to basically F off,
He said that he was relaxing by the pool and that's that. He later saw
a student get angry and start yelling how they are a cult and that he
was leaving! John said the guy started walking out with his luggage
soon after.
Now this is when things get weirder....
Last night John was complaining about more TR sessions, the impossible
sitting still for too long ect, but they started doing the bullbaiting
which really annoys me. My bf was called a whole bunch of names and
then he had to do it back to his "twin".
This is when he started getting really annoyed at the situation... He
said he knows exactly what this place is, that his roommate even warned
him what its about and to be careful what he says.
John said they want to control every
little movement he makes. ect. I was telling him the stuff I read on
what the purpose for all the TR's were ect, I told him that he needs to
tell his brother EVERYTHING and tell him how serious this is. John
cant do anything without the ok from his brother and said so. That he
just wanted to get through this as quickly as possible so he can come
home. Now remember he never said he wanted out now, that was me telling
him I wanted that.
As soon as I hung with him last night I get a text message from Marty
saying "I'm aware John is on phone saying get me outta here, I heard
him. Ill speak to him, ...freely call me if you wish. Marty"
I checked the time of the text and he sent it while we were on the
phone with eachother. So he's basically admitting that the phones are
"bugged" and he
was listening! He had to be because It was really me who said that in
that wording. I didn't answer for him. 2 minutes later he called me and
left a
vmail saying that he is going to contact his brother and clear
everything up to make sure everything is ok and that he wants to talk
to me ect. (of course he does, nothing like being able to cover your
ass and save face by lying and BSing us)
I haven't called him. Why waste time listening to lies?
I talked to John today and he said he didn't talk to his brother yet.
He said Marty came into his room last night and asked him if everything
was ok, and he said Yes. Marty then was like well I heard you saying
you want to leave and J was just like na I'm fine...trying to play it
off like things are cool.
So folks these are the current happenings in Warner Springs,
It's insane that they get away with any of their nonsense!
Anyway my problem now is that John's brother has been BSed sooo bad by
Josh, sooo bad by Marty that he believes despite some relations to Sci
they might have, that he still might get something out of it. He doesn't see the
seriousness in the situation and he doesn't see Narconon for what it
REALLY IS!
I sent him a text last night just updating him on how Marty seemed to
be listening, the phones being bugged ect. He didn't answer me. I think
he thinks that I'm paranoid and being a bit too much and crazy!
The only thing I can do now is continue to try my best supplying John's
brother with info, waiting for J's phonecalls on updates, and read the
leaked books so I know whats going on. So all I have now is to hope
things will turn out ok, and I am relieved to now have this forum, CRR,
Proff T, and Mark to turn to for help and to vent.
If you please know any info specifically about Warner Springs Narc.
or any other general info, comment, anything at all! I will keep
posting updates about John's days ect.
