I LOVE THIS ONE.. I probably agree with 99.2% of it LOLOL
Don Juan, in the Castaneda books would agree with most of it too.. If you cannot IMAGINE that there is such a thing as OT, you will never strive to move in that direction. If you cannot IMAGINE that this world which looks SO SOLID is actually ALL ENERGY with spaces in between all the "solidity".. then you would never think to SEE it as energy.. you would be "hypnotized" into the idea that it is all SOLID, period. You'd never think to look thru a wall.. etc. I don't know if YOU agree with this Gadfly, but I certainly liked your "take".
Mostly, I agree with what you said. I will give a few examples though.
If a person could never
imagine starting his or her own business and succeeding, it is unlikely that he or she would ever try. Generally, people who have succeeded along some avenue first IMAGINED the possibility of doing so.
And, also though, MANY people who have
imagined succeeding along some avenue have FAILED.
It is not just a matter of simply imagining.
An architect first gets an idea, he entertains it in his or her imagination. Then he transfers the vision to paper, and
sometimes, eventually, it gets realized in the physical universe as a building, or bridge, or whatever. And also though, there are many ideas of the imagination. many ideas of wonderful new buildings and bridges, that NEVER manifest into the physical universe.
There is
some relationship here though to the "real world of possibilities".
A Muslim fanatic can imagine and dream of appearing in Heaven after detonating a suicide bomb on a bus of Israeli school children.
A Jehovah's Witness can imagine, believe and dream of surviving the End Times and existing on a Paradise on Earth with the 144,000 other "true Christians".
Having faith and imagining possibilities is obviously NOT the entire story.
If there WERE such a thing as OT abilities that could be attained through Scientology processes, then of course, imagining and believing such a thing would help one to get there. The problem is when it is all a big farce - which it largely is. Then ones
misdirected imagination leads to dead ends, unrealized dreams and failures.
In the end it may be true that ALL IS POSSIBLE through a
disciplined imagination, but that is NOT what Scientology teaches and delivers (keep reading).
I remember studying Rudolf Steiner when I was reading about
Theosophy and Steiner's
Anthroposophy. In his book, "
Higher Worlds and How to Attain Them, he discussed how it greatly helps if a person had a "role model" or someone who he or she looked up to when young. Why? Because it gave the person a sense of something greater. It gave the person a view larger than him or herself. This was supposedly helpful for any person choosing to head down the "occult path".
Note: There are MANY "occult paths" and all paths are NOT created equal.
I have read quite a bit about eastern yogis, sages and Bodhisattvas. Just imagining is NOT sufficient. This is NOT day-dreaming or fantasizing. Next is the theory.
The imagination is the doorway to ALL universes. It needs to be drilled, practiced, and as one does so, new abilities and perceptions appear.
On begins by spending many HOURS and DAYS involved in mental exercises to learn to focus and concentrate - getting better and better. Part of this is developing the total and complete ability to STOP all thinking, and stop all looking at ANYTHING
at will. Few even have a decent concept of what this even means, much less have the ability to do it on demand. Being able to "empty the mind" at will is simply KINDERGARTEN along this path. Most people cannot even do THAT!
A calm and empty mind is a basic
prerequisite to more advanced drills with the imagination.
Next, one spends great amounts of time exercising aspects of the imagination. Imagining various shapes - circles, squares, rectangles. Imagining various solids, such as cones, spheres, boxes, etc. Changing the shapes. Keeping them there
unchanging for long periods of time.
Hubbard introduced a MAJOR LIE into Scientology. He said that for things to persist, there
must be a LIE. Things can also be encouraged to persist (in your mind) by sheer will and determination. You don't need to "lie about it" or "alter-is" something to make it continue. THAT is "false data", though no doubt, lies, when hidden from self, will cause various unwanted conditions to persist. But, it is not the whole deal.
Then one imagines various colors. One imagines various shapes with various colors. One makes them big. One makes them small. One imagines energy centers. One "does things" with the energy centers (chakras). This all involves incredible ampounts of practice and
waking up to certain subtle aspects of a mind (your mind). THis has NOTHING to do with "auditing".
One imagines self separate from body (after having mastered a great many OTHER EARLIER drills). And, so on and so forth. This all involves the development of a practiced and disciplined IMAGINATION. This idea and practice is largely unknown to most people.
Such drills exist in various Rosicrucian practices.
Now, the theory is that once one gets REALLY GOOD at this, one begins to pull back the veil covering ALL reality and one can begin to see and control the relationship of the objective with the subjective. One can supposedly get to a point where one can create illusions for self AND OTHERS at will - to the point where one cannot tell the difference between "physical reality" and the contrived reality created by the seer or yogi.
People at this level of awareness and ability have no need or desire to enforce their visions on others - they recognize that each person must come along on his own speed and pace.
Babaji in supposedly one such entity.
He supposedly did so much extended concentration along the Chakras that his body changed colors and energy lines appeared in his permanent physical form.
The IMAGINATION that I am talking about is not just a matter of "oh, if I believe this it will come true". This is WAY WAY WAY PAST "belief and conviction". This involves the ability to control EVERY ASPECT of ones
personal mind and imagination (and eventually others too).
Of course, Scientology has absolutely NOTHING to do with such things. Scientology is a cosmic joke (of Hubbard's). It is MANY LIES masquerading as "truth". Yes, it contains "some truth", BUT and this is key, it is NOT arranged to really HELP anybody in any serious way. It was created ONLY to "help Hubbard" (in his crazed distorted view of things). Hubbard took bits and pieces from these more advanced realms of study, and incorporated them into Scientology as part of his gimmickry and entrapment machinery. What appears from these other areas of study in Scientology is only a pale shadow of the genuine.
There is also the possibility that people who are "lower in their development" along the lines of the imagination, who believe deeply and wallow in various conceptual convictions will FIND THEMSELVES in similar related scenarios after dying this body - in what is called the "astral plane". Until one gains an ability to control the imagination, at
very deep and complex levels, one will apparently continue to "go the effect" of ones own largely arbitrary self-created agreements and considerations (about all sorts of things).
Realize that a person could spend 5-10 hours a day for MANY years developing various aspects of mental concentration, focus, attention and imagining (and NOT be or go crazy). This simply involves skills that few people are aware of.
And outside of IMAGINING that such things are possible, and taking actual steps to practice such things in earnest, no amount of book study will EVER give you what "practice of such things" can deliver and provide.
But, truthfully, most people aren't that interested. :confused2:
Most people are content to live as human beings on planet Earth - which is fine. It hasn't been entirely fine for me though . . . . .
, I wasn't aware that I was lumping. I'll try to be more careful.
