The highest OT level

[clamicide]

All I really want to do is be able to eat BBQ spare ribs while they "hold their position in space" because of my Tone 40 intention and causative mental energy!

Will someone phone or PM me when anyone gains this (or equivalent) OTness?

I hate gettin' my fingers all sticky and CREATING smudges on the Margarita glass which ya gotta admit is pretty tacky.

Thanking everyone in advance for their cooperation,

EP

You have got to be kidding...seriously...eating amazing BBQ ribs can be one of the most sensual experiences. The constant need to lick fingers, the pure carnivore lust of tearing into something so delicious... it ain't tacky if you go in with the right frame of mind, and are dining with the right person. Margarita glasses can always be washed. If the smudges on the glass are really what you are focused on, then the ribs just ain't good enough. BBQ ribs should yank you down to complete carnal abandon :wink2: OK, Clammie needs to calm self

 

[lkwdblds]

Good Point!

There's also the History of Man tapes, where he said you could be running two bodies or more at any given time and not know it.... oy. So, he COULD have been Metteyya and Buddha at the same time... I think he also might have hinted about Scientology being started by him elsewhere in the universe at the time with another body. Hard to recall that part. So much brainwashing makes the memories a bit dim.

Thanks for this astute information. I never bought in to being able to run two bodies at the same time. I have enough trouble just runing one.

In this instance I apply, "If it isn't true for you, it isn't true." Yea, sure, if you believe what Hubbard said on those tapes, he COULD have been both Buddha and Metteyya. I for one have never believed that portion of Hubbard tech. Notice, that bit of tech is only mentioned briefly on a couple of tapes from the early 1950's and I'm not aware that it was ever set down in writing.

Hubbard probably knew that if he wrote it up as official tech, his detractors would point to it and use it to discredit and mock him. The press, the AMA and Psychiatry could have mopped the floor with LRH if he had ever made that official C of S policy.
Lakey

 

[DagwoodGum]

The Devious Dwarf does too, so that after OT VIII you do Objectives.

As I wrote before, he's managed to reverse it all, so that you take an OT VIII and run him on Grades and Objectives, have him study basic books, then finally he's out of Scientology.

Paul

Spectacularly perceptive of the procedures being run in reverse gear to get people out before they realize it's all a bunch of watered down copy/paste crap stolen from other religions and psycho therapies.

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

You have got to be kidding...seriously...eating amazing BBQ ribs can be one of the most sensual experiences. The constant need to lick fingers, the pure carnivore lust of tearing into something so delicious... it ain't tacky if you go in with the right frame of mind, and are dining with the right person. Margarita glasses can always be washed. If the smudges on the glass are really what you are focused on, then the ribs just ain't good enough. BBQ ribs should yank you down to complete carnal abandon :wink2: OK, Clammie needs to calm self

Yer right of course Darlin' - I was only kiddin' and I love this incendiarily exciting and libidinous post!

 

[Winston Smith]

Re: Thanks for pointing this out!

There's also the History of Man tapes, where he said you could be running two bodies or more at any given time and not know it.... oy. So, he COULD have been Metteyya and Buddha at the same time... I think he also might have hinted about Scientology being started by him elsewhere in the universe at the time with another body. Hard to recall that part. So much brainwashing makes the memories a bit dim.

Oh my you know what this means. Leave it to Winston to think in this manner. He could have been male and female making whoopee to each other also. That is a revolting thought, given I cannot imagine that guy doing that. But you also said he could have been those two and not know it. I suppose that eases the wretchedness a notch.

 

[Auditor's Toad]

On one hand there is running a body or two and on the other hand there is ruining a body or two.

Now which was the Hubturd doing?

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

After you finally get rid of all those Body Thetans, you'll still need to do higher levels until you've been relieved of all your Wallet Thetans.

 

[DagwoodGum]

He could have made 15,000 OT Levels, however the real question is does anyone in this video look as if they gained anything of value from any of Hubbard's OT Levels, other than a silly ass fake navy costume?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4795916476185244372#

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4795916476185244372#docid=-9200465940589235031

I have yet to see a single Scientology OT who possesses any abilities that the average person on the street does not possess ... not a single one.

but I have seen numerous OTs who have become mentally and or emotionally handicapped as a result of Hubbard's batshit crazy Standard Tech.

If someone thinks otherwise I'd love to see them step up and show me I'm wrong.

D.M. makes me think of one of the Bowery Boys walking in off the street and running the COS with no clue as to any aspect of its essence or purpose other than scamming for cash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkoNoGtI5LY

 

[Lavenderlady]

Re: Thanks for pointing this out!

There's also the History of Man tapes, where he said you could be running two bodies or more at any given time and not know it.... oy. So, he COULD have been Metteyya and Buddha at the same time... I think he also might have hinted about Scientology being started by him elsewhere in the universe at the time with another body. Hard to recall that part. So much brainwashing makes the memories a bit dim.

Totally believable!!! I remember when i was ten or eleven (and an avid reader). My mom gave me a copy of 'hymn of asia'. Which "proved that LRH was the reincarnation of buddha".
I had already read the Tao de ching and tried a couple times to tackle the Ramayana....So i read it, thought it was pretty, but failed to see how it proved anything. In fact while I didn't articulate it at the time, I thought it was rather nutty to go around insinuating or outright stating that you were the reincarnation of some well respected spiritual leader. It just makes you look....well.... Dumb. And an egomaniac. Oh the childhood seeds of doubt.

 

[Happy Atlast]

What I find interesting is that we're asking how many OT Levels really existed or were created by Ron. The question is quite academic because most of us know by now that:

- the state of Clear has never existed;
- the state of OT doesn't exist;
- you can't really achieve a release from problems; service facs; communication, etc as promise on the Grades;
- ARC Straightwire promises you'll never get any worse and that is completely false as born out in numerous cases;
- doing 200 hrs of objectives is not going to put you more in PT than 10 hrs of objectives;
- Key to Life and LOC doesn't work but Management keeps on delivering it along with a lot of other courses and processes that don't work;
- Ethics tech is based on finding fault; snitching and undermining your own determinism;
- the theta/mest theory is balony and cannot be applied;
- SP/PTS Tech has destroyed more lives and families then you can shake a stick at because it usually finds a wrong why;
- most Scientologist I have met are either down toned, in state of glee and in complete denial.

How many OT levels did Ron develop? ZERO! He developed in intricate system of processes and a documentation to separate you from your money. He got so spellbound by the effect that he had created on others that began to believe it himself (in the 60s and 70s anyway). He later realized what he real menace he was and blew.

 

[Smilla]

If we take Hubbard as being the highest OT, the highest OT Level is DEAD AND GONE, and it's awareness level is NONE AT ALL.

 

[ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn]

If we take Hubbard as being the highest OT, the highest OT Level is DEAD AND GONE, and it's awareness level is NONE AT ALL.

I've seen corpses that look better than the ultimate Homo Novus which Scientologists aspire to become ... in fact just about every corpse I've ever seen looks better that Hubbard did when he was researching the highest OT levels.

 

[Smilla]

I've seen corpses that look better than the ultimate Homo Novus which Scientologists aspire to become ... in fact just about every corpse I've ever seen looks better that Hubbard did when he was researching the highest OT levels.

Looking at that photo, what I see is someone who's taken lots and lots of drugs and alcohol.

 

[Happy Atlast]

What I find interesting is that we're asking how many OT Levels really existed or were created by Ron. The question is quite academic because most of us know by now that:

- the state of Clear has never existed;
- the state of OT doesn't exist;
- you can't really achieve a release from problems; service facs; communication, etc as promise on the Grades;
- ARC Straightwire promises you'll never get any worse and that is completely false as born out in numerous cases;
- doing 200 hrs of objectives is not going to put you more in PT than 10 hrs of objectives;
- Key to Life and LOC doesn't work but Management keeps on delivering it along with a lot of other courses and processes that don't work;
- Ethics tech is based on finding fault; snitching and undermining your own determinism;
- the theta/mest theory is balony and cannot be applied;
- SP/PTS Tech has destroyed more lives and families then you can shake a stick at because it usually finds a wrong why;
- most Scientologist I have met are either down toned, in state of glee and in complete denial.

How many OT levels did Ron develop? ZERO! He developed in intricate system of processes and a documentation to separate you from your money. He got so spellbound by the effect that he had created on others that began to believe it himself (in the 60s and 70s anyway). He later realized what he real menace he was and blew.

 

[JackStraw]

I'm thinking the highest OT Level is "ex."

Jack