The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[afaceinthecrowd]

Hmm,

Reading Urq's presentation (the part so far posted) and the responses to it, I have this to say.

I know Urq, and as noted he is the thorough gentleman, very considerate, kind and caring. And he is a good man by all measure.

My observation of the presentation, as transcribed, was that Urq measured what he said, and he did so for several reasons.

Firstly, he told the truth.

Next, he spoke in terms that did not an would not offend his hosts.

And in that context, it is obvious there are things he could have said but did not. Though he did point out the fact that was a severe change in Hubbard at a point in time where LRH turned from wonderful to woeful.

Next, Urq presented the positives that would be helpful to folks . . . and avoided (and you'll see that in the pauses and rephrasings) any negatives that would do no one any good and even be destructive to the good being intended and done by his hosts.

Urq is not down on anyone who is acting with good intent, no matter the tools they are employing to attempt to render their good. You see that in his comments regarding CBR's stuff. I concur with this stance; it is the way I view the actions of others.

Urq merits every courtesy that can be rendered him.

Some years ago he phoned me here in NYC asking me to give him an auditing assist session.

He of course offered to pay . . . "No," I said. "You've paid your dues in service to others. Any help I can give you is on me."

So he paddled over, and after I'd heard what he had to say about what he wanted help on, I C/Sed one of Alan's R/Ds "The Force Handling."

So I told Urq, "You're a big boy. You should do this solo . . . it'll run more smoothly for you that way." And I set him up in Virginia's office on my meter.

Good wins and revelations with the R/D, which was new to him.

Next, based on his itsa after session, I set him up to solo Alan's "Locked in Mortal Combat R/D."



Urq's one of my favorite people. Apart from contact with him in the '60's, he audited some of my NOTs at Flag.

R

Thank you for this, Rog. Very clear and, in my opinion, very correct.

Face

 

[Veda]

Ok. Some time in the 1960s, Hubbard went from happy self-aggrandizing covertly ruthless megalomaniac to unhappy self-aggrandizing overtly ruthless megalomaniac.

Hubbard was then overtly pursuing his 1938 'Excalibur' goal of "smashing," becoming a "legend," and "making Napoleon look like a punk," rather than covertly, as was the case pre-1960s.

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Now that's a fuckin' good post!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Spi_U66e0

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Facey Book Club!

Face, I think you hit the wronG key and posted your brilliant dissertation on the wrong board. You really wanted EPMB as my link will illustrate:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proctologist

Clearly, though brilliant, your post really belongs on the Ex Proctolgists' Message Board. I believe you meant to post on Aboard the Proctology Ship in 1973. Yes, proctology was primative in those days, really messy and disgusting. Nowadays, their standard tech has jumped forward by leaps and bounds.

Rats, I mispelled salute in my Title and can't fix it......Lakey

Heh, for this post! Ex-proctologists! Heh-heh!

Thank GOD Facey is writing a book! Please let it be a tell-all about his Scientology adventures (misadventures? :confused2 At least a couple a chapters of tell all?

Lakey, I had trouble with that too, until through my bumble around and learn technique of computer technology duh I found this out: when you want to edit the title line or add an emoticon, etc. to an existing post you have to hit the second edit button (hit edit again), after you have already opened up the edit window. It opens up a bigger picture where you have access to everything. Try it and let me know if it works for you!

 

[Blue Spirit]

Title Fix

Face, I think you hit the wronG key and posted your brilliant dissertation on the wrong board. You really wanted EPMB as my link will illustrate:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proctologist

Clearly, though brilliant, your post really belongs on the Ex Proctolgists' Message Board. I believe you meant to post on Aboard the Proctology Ship in 1973. Yes, proctology was primative in those days, really messy and disgusting. Nowadays, their standard tech has jumped forward by leaps and bounds.

Rats, I mispelled salute in my Title and can't fix it......Lakey

Lakey, you can fix a title by clicking on "Edit", then "Advanced".

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Another Country Heard From!

Yes you can! - When in the 'edit window', there's a 'Go Advanced' button. Hit that and the title is editable too..

Ah, my spiritual soul brother (also an artist!) from Scandahoovia knows the proper way to do it. Thank you Schwimmy, for the instruction!
Sorry I am such an amateur, but Lakey...do whatever works best for you! Hitting edit again also does it.

P.S. Thank you also to True Blue, for your instruction...another simultaneous post! Snap!

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Surf Shack!

from the San Jose Mercury


A Quick Bite: Sam's Chowdermobile

By Jason Bennert
Correspondent
Posted: 05/25/2010 06:01:34 PM PDT
Updated: 05/25/2010 06:01:34 PM PDT

For years, food writers, food shows and foodies in general have said the best lobster rolls on Earth can be found at a small roadside stand off Route 1 in midstate Maine.

The only problem, for those of us in the South Bay, is midstate Maine is more than 3,200 miles away. That's 36 hours of driving — Gumball Rally style. Even if you fly into Boston you still have around 150 miles of road ahead of you — and it's not a quick drive.

Those New Englanders don't like to hurry anywhere, even on an interstate. Maybe that's what happens when you're buried under snow for seven months of the year.

Luckily, lobster rolls are now available at regular locations in the South Bay and Peninsula through the auspices of that great California innovation — the gourmet food truck.

Sam's ChowderMobile is an offshoot of Half Moon Bay's Sam's Chowder House restaurant. It makes regular stops throughout the Peninsula and a twice-monthly stop in downtown San Jose.

Its lobster roll comes in full ($15) and half ($10) sizes. What you get is a split top bun — which you hardly ever see on the West Coast — that's soft and pillowy on the outside but with a buttery crunch inside. It's crammed full of succulent lobster, big pieces, including whole claw meat, and also smaller, super flavorful leg meat. There are also little pieces of celery for a contrasting crunch, and it's all lightly coated with a buttery dressing.

Of course, Sam's also serves New England clam chowder ($5). While the chowder is New England style, it's not so thick that you can stand a spoon up in it (New England native Pops would be disappointed). Instead, it's a deliciously light creamy broth with pronounced thyme and pepper flavors that's chock full of clams, as well as bacon, celery pieces and dime-size cubed potatoes.

I also tried the fish taco ($5). It was a massive piece of whitefish that had been battered and fried until it was nicely crispy but not oily at all. It was placed on a bed of sliced cabbage inside corn tortillas and topped with a mango salsa. It was very tasty, but very messy because the fish was oversize compared to the tortillas. So some fish and salsa leaked onto my hands.

The one negative about the ChowderMobile has nothing to do with the food and everything to do with a convenience that turns out to be not so convenient: taking credit cards.

The ChowderMobile's computer seems to break down in the field more often than it worked. On one of my visits I was part of a crowd of a dozen people that stood in the Tesla Motors parking lot in Palo Alto for 20 minutes, on a drizzly day, not ordering, or eating, our chowder but watching the three guys in the ChowderMobile trying to get the computer to reboot.

They finally ended up telling everyone it would be cash only that day.
Memo to Sam: It's a food truck; everyone is going to understand if you only take cash.

Sam"s ChowderMobile Locations vary, follow them on Twitter.com/chowdermobile or online at www.samschowdermobile.com.

Today, 110 Oracle Parkway, Redwood City. Friday, 120 Hawthorne Ave., Palo Alto. Sunday, Dominico Winery in San Carlos. Tuesday, 8000 Marina Blvd., Brisbane. Next scheduled stop in downtown San Jose (111 Market St.) is June 10.

Hours: Generally 11:30 a.m.-1:30 p.m. for lunch
Types of food: Clam chowder and seafood

Average meal price: $10 or less, unless you order the lobster roll

Good choices: The chowder, lobster roll and the Old Bay seasoned fries

Not recommended: Arriving without cash money; their credit card machine can be temperamental

Attitude: No chitchat, very businesslike

Amenities: None; it"s a food truck that serves chowder.

Vegetarian options: The Old Bay fries

Drinks: A limited selection of soft drinks, Gatorade and bottled water

Eat in car: I think Joe Simitian is trying to outlaw chowder eating while driving.

Next-day edibility: Chowder, good; lobster roll, not so much

Who goes there: A whole lot of people; there"s always a line.

Credit cards: See above

Parking: Depends on where they set up

Restaurant reviews are conducted anonymously.
The Mercury News pays for all meals.

Carmy...is this your retirement plan? p teasing!) I know a cute blond someone whose retirement plan is to run a shave ice stand on the north shore of Oahu! Might as well put it on wheels! Clam chowder, lobster rolls, crabby patties and sushi might fit in with that scheme...lobster plate lunch.... hum....

 

[SweetnessandLight]

She won.

Oh...sorry Carmelo...how's about Charles Osgood?

Face

Actually, if I remember correctly, his long-time mistress did win her case and got the Montana property in a settlement of his estate, as it seems she was entitled to, via his written promises to provide a home for her for the rest of her life.

I have a theory that most men have an overempowered sense of entitlement and will get away with whatever they are allowed to...even the "good" ones. (I think it's all that testosterone roiling around in their systems)

I always really enjoyed his reporting...human interest stories ROCK!!! Can you imagine what he would do with the current Scientology abuses expose scene? Woo-Hoo!

Carmelo's style is like his in terms of story selection...

 

[lkwdblds]

More apetizing than sauteed asshole

Sautéed face. Very interesting.

Well, it does seem a lot more appetizing than sauteed asshole. Perhaps the French could do something with it, Asshole Nicoise au jus. Maybe in Mexican Frijoles Veracruz, pronounced free holes.
Lakey

 

[SweetnessandLight]

HAW!!!

LAKEY!!!

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

Well, it does seem a lot more appetizing than sauteed asshole. Perhaps the French could do something with it, Asshole Nicoise au jus. Maybe in Mexican Frijoles Veracruz, pronounced free holes.
Lakey

 

[cakemaker]

Thanks for that Carmelo. A good read and much appreciated.

I wonder though - this line from about one third of the way down: LRH played for his courage and brilliance, his caring and his generosity. That burden may be with him for some time.

I suspect that word 'played' should be 'paid'.

I suspect you're right but the blurb sounds like "played". Maybe Ken could clarify. MP3 segment at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0N9TCCFO

 

[lkwdblds]

Thanks

Heh, for this post! Ex-proctologists! Heh-heh!

Thank GOD Facey is writing a book! Please let it be a tell-all about his Scientology adventures (misadventures? :confused2 At least a couple a chapters of tell all?

Lakey, I had trouble with that too, until through my bumble around and learn technique of computer technology duh I found this out: when you want to edit the title line or add an emoticon, etc. to an existing post you have to hit the second edit button (hit edit again), after you have already opened up the edit window. It opens up a bigger picture where you have access to everything. Try it and let me know if it works for you!

Thanks, I was hoping some good Samartan might show me a way to edit that. In this one case, I am going to leave the error intact because sauteed Face got some good laughs and one should not disconnect from a successful action.
Lakey

 

[thetanic]

Luckily, lobster rolls are now available at regular locations in the South Bay and Peninsula through the auspices of that great California innovation — the gourmet food truck.

Oh, yay!

I haven't had a good lobster roll since the last time I was on Martha's Vineyard. The peninsula is oh so much closer for me.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

http://www.antology.info/video.html

transcript of Ken's talk in Moscow last year:

Ken Urquhart
Moscow 2009

...

We got on very well for the first couple of years.

In September of 1972 he left for the USA and was away for a year. During that year his attitude towards me changed. When he returned to the ship we were not so close although he did not remove me and would often confide in me just as he had done before.

His interests and priorities had changed in that year. Back on the ship he took up with the onboard musicians. He focused heavily on the perceived dangers of potential trouble source and rock slamming crew. He became extremely bad tempered, authoritarian and demanding of instant and exact compliance. I could not follow him in this path and we grew further apart but I remained on the post.
LRH built up the Commodores Messenger Organization to serve his purposes as I would not.
In 1973 we moved ashore to Florida. In early 1974 he withdrew from Florida where his presence had become known to the local press and he left for Washington DC then for California. He left me behind at Flag to keep an eye on things. His very last words to me were,"You are too much of a gentleman." I never saw him again.

While he was away in California he used the now very much bigger CMO, Commodores Messenger Org, to do his bidding. To be his eyes and ears and get compliance.

I kept more to myself, then the inevitable happened, the CMO arranged to find that I am a rock slammer. That indicates evil purposes. So of course, they could remove me from my post. I went to the rehabilitation Project Force and I went not unhappily as I knew it would be my route into tech delivery. ...

First, I want to say thanks to CO for posting this. I always get a kick out of Ken & his insights. He is a warm & generous being and always chooses to refrain from denigrating anyone publicly no matter how fulsomely they may have warranted public derision. Ken is a person whom I admire greatly because of his ability to combine intelligence, wit, & native ability with manifest goodness & compassionate regard for others.

Secondly, the remarks I've excerpted I think are very telling with regard to LRH's history, both in highlighting a clear shift in Hubbard's mental state as well as indicating the direction of the shift. Early Ron, for all his faults, was a much more mutable being. He was clearly capable of demonstrating a high regard for others. At some point around the late '60s & early '70s, and due to uncertain circumstances - quite likely health related, much of his characteristic mutability was transformed and his attitude became much more dominantly oppressive.

It denotes a truly sorry condition of existence. And although, LRH certainly would not have welcomed it, it was a condition which warrants a degree of pity.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Next, Urq presented the positives that would be helpful to folks . . . and avoided (and you'll see that in the pauses and rephrasings) any negatives that would do no one any good and even be destructive to the good being intended and done by his hosts.

Such is characteristic of Ken. He seems to have taken deeply to heart the old adage: if you have nothing good to say about a person then say nothing. Still, Ken has a trenchant, though not severe, wit and can in personal discussions entertain a company with his humorous & pithy anecdotes.

Ken is one of the top ten for my "Desert Island List". He's right behind Rachel Weisz, Salma Hayek, & Penelope Cruz.

Other names shall remain omitted.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Mark A. Baker]

I have a theory that most men have an overempowered sense of entitlement and will get away with whatever they are allowed to...even the "good" ones. (I think it's all that testosterone roiling around in their systems)

Can't be the testosterone, it's even more true of women. Men, however, can be easily distracted and thus put off on their goals. Women, being "mistresses" of manipulation, are not so easily deflected from their objectives.

The female is deadlier than the male.


Mark A. Baker

 

[lkwdblds]

A question and a speculation

Ok. Some time in the 1960s, Hubbard went from happy self-aggrandizing covertly ruthless megalomaniac to unhappy self-aggrandizing overtly ruthless megalomaniac.

Hubbard was then overtly pursuing his 1938 'Excalibur' goal of "smashing," becoming a "legend," and "making Napoleon look like a punk," rather than covertly, as was the case pre-1960s.

Veda, on your first paragraph, it seems to me that a large part of his drop in tone level or happiness level may have come from his not being accepted and vernerated by the mental health establishment and ditto by the American Medical Association. Perhaps he longed to be invited to speak at universities and get honorary Doctorate degrees and this was not forthcoming but instead there was criticism and even ridicule. Then of course part of it well could be physical degeneration as Mark Baker suggests.

Just one small criticism on your second paragraph. I don't see "smashing" or wanting to become a legend as automatically bad in all cases. Take a prize fighter such as Ali. He wanted to be a legend and smash his name into history and he did both and also enriched a lot of people's lives. A lot of entertainers want to be legends and maybe early in the careers they walk over some people on their way to the top, the same for politicians.

In Hubbard's case, I agree with your end conclusions but not because he wanted to be a legend and not because he bashed some people, although that is part of it; it is because he did not really respect other individuals and was so willing to use and abuse them and then declare them suppresive and throw them into the scrap heap when they were no longer of use to him. I guess that consititutes "trashing". When a man routinely trashes people who sign on to serve and help him, that is where I draw the line - a little bashing, wanting to be a legend - yea, fine, go for it. Trashing someone else's very beingness, well that's going to far. Maybe I am splitting hairs but I just wanted to make this further distinction.
Lakey

 

[Terril park]

Hmm,

Reading Urq's presentation (the part so far posted) and the responses to it, I have this to say.

I know Urq, and as noted he is the thorough gentleman, very considerate, kind and caring. And he is a good man by all measure.

My observation of the presentation, as transcribed, was that Urq measured what he said, and he did so for several reasons.

Firstly, he told the truth.

Next, he spoke in terms that did not an would not offend his hosts.

And in that context, it is obvious there are things he could have said but did not. Though he did point out the fact that was a severe change in Hubbard at a point in time where LRH turned from wonderful to woeful.

Next, Urq presented the positives that would be helpful to folks . . . and avoided (and you'll see that in the pauses and rephrasings) any negatives that would do no one any good and even be destructive to the good being intended and done by his hosts.

Urq is not down on anyone who is acting with good intent, no matter the tools they are employing to attempt to render their good. You see that in his comments regarding CBR's stuff. I concur with this stance; it is the way I view the actions of others.

Urq merits every courtesy that can be rendered him.

Some years ago he phoned me here in NYC asking me to give him an auditing assist session.

He of course offered to pay . . . "No," I said. "You've paid your dues in service to others. Any help I can give you is on me."

So he paddled over, and after I'd heard what he had to say about what he wanted help on, I C/Sed one of Alan's R/Ds "The Force Handling."

So I told Urq, "You're a big boy. You should do this solo . . . it'll run more smoothly for you that way." And I set him up in Virginia's office on my meter.

Good wins and revelations with the R/D, which was new to him.

Next, based on his itsa after session, I set him up to solo Alan's "Locked in Mortal Combat R/D."



Urq's one of my favorite people. Apart from contact with him in the '60's, he audited some of my NOTs at Flag.

R

Met Ken around 2 years ago. Been in contact ever since.

He is integrity personified.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Hey, Huntington Beach, Eat My Shorts!

From the Times of London:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/holiday_type/water_sports/article7126609.ece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwgDDwb_w8

from The Santa Cruz Sentinel:

Times of London names Santa Cruz No. 1 surf spot in the world

By SHANNA MCCORD
Posted: 05/26/2010 02:53:57 PM PDT

SANTA CRUZ — There’s good reason the city is nicknamed “Surf City USA.”

Those glassy head-high waves often seen wrapping around the point at Steamer Lane put Santa Cruz on the world map of top surfing spots.

Santa Cruz landed the No. 1 spot on a recent Times of London article that listed where to find the best waves in the world.

The article, written by freelance journalist and surfer Alex Wade, pointed out the seemingly endless selection of surf spots for surfers of all abilities in Santa Cruz.

“If you rip, there’s Steamer Lane, a world-class right-hand point break, while intermediate-to-good surfers will love Pleasure Point and The Hook, two nearby right-handers,”


Winter waves line up for this surfer zipping through inside middle peak at Steamer Lane. Times of London named Santa Cruz the No. 1 surf destination in the world citing "endless selection of surf spots" from South County to the North Coast.

(Dan Coyro/Sentinel file)

Wade wrote. “If you’re a beginner, there are easy waves at Cowell’s, while along the coast Waddell Creek can provide almost empty, though sometimes sharky, surf.”

Santa Cruz beat other international destinations known for exceptional surfing, including France, Portugal, Australia, Barbados, Costa Rica, Cornwall, Hawaii, Indonesia and South Africa.

Jeff Singson, a longtime surfer who works at Arrow Surf and Sport on Mission Street, said he was surprised other warmer locations didn’t scoop Santa Cruz. The cold water here, he says, can make surfing uncomfortable.

Singson has also caught waves in Chile, Hawaii and Mexico.

“Don’t get me wrong, I love it here and I surf as much as I can,” Singson, 32, said. “But it’s not like Indonesia where you can put on board-shorts and find waves everywhere.”

In addition to surfing fame, Santa Cruz was mentioned in the June issue of Travel & Leisure magazine in a story about America’s best beach boardwalks. The 103-year-old Boardwalk was noted for being “the last remaining major family-oriented carnival-style park on the West Coast.”