CarmeloOrchards
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My favorite car was my Triumph TR3
Mine was in a mustard yellow. Note; I say favorite, not 'best'
Nowdays I'm more practical, but, I'd still drool at a nice TR6
Zinj
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CarmeloOrchards
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the Avanti
I just remember seeing the Avanti for the very first time at a closed off street downtown car show in San Jose in front of the Hotel Saint Claire.
Within the context that I was accustomed to sitting on fenders, working on truck engines (replacing spark plugs, changing filters, removing heads, etc.) I took one look under the hood of the Avanti, and saw no more than ten cubic inches of space with every thing tightly crammed in there. It did not put my indicators in. I did not ever want to work on something like that where I couldn't reach plugs, points, bolts easily.
My wife has an S Type that gets serviced at a garage that does lots of classic cars. the E Types have easily exposed engines.
I've thought that engineers should have to change the plugs, filters, etc of the cars, trucks, and tractors they design. What looks good in a schematic is not necessarily good for a mechanic's hands and eyes. Nothing in the world like popping a filter off and getting a face full of gas.
I just remember seeing the Avanti for the very first time at a closed off street downtown car show in San Jose in front of the Hotel Saint Claire.
Within the context that I was accustomed to sitting on fenders, working on truck engines (replacing spark plugs, changing filters, removing heads, etc.) I took one look under the hood of the Avanti, and saw no more than ten cubic inches of space with every thing tightly crammed in there. It did not put my indicators in. I did not ever want to work on something like that where I couldn't reach plugs, points, bolts easily.
My wife has an S Type that gets serviced at a garage that does lots of classic cars. the E Types have easily exposed engines.
I've thought that engineers should have to change the plugs, filters, etc of the cars, trucks, and tractors they design. What looks good in a schematic is not necessarily good for a mechanic's hands and eyes. Nothing in the world like popping a filter off and getting a face full of gas.
lkwdblds
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The Avanti's became a GM - Studey hybrid
Carmelo - I believe the trouble is that the original Avanti was engineered to take the 289 cubic inch Studebaker engine, their designation "R1". Their bigger engine option was to install a supercharger on the R1 and call it an R2. When Studebaker went belly up and the Avanti was taken over by private investor Nate Altman the Studebaker marque was out of production and no more engines were available so Altman cut a deal with the Chevrolet Division of General Motors to purchase Corvette engines for use in the Avanti II's. They wanted the big block Corvette engines of the day which the Avanti's were not designed to have originally so the engines had to be shoehorned in under the hoods.
The big GM engines were much more powerful than the Studebaker engines and they were of a later vintage too so they took up all the room under the hood. That was not the fault of Studey's original design team but a problem Altman created and had to deal with.
What did you think of the Avanti's styling, did it do anything for you? What about various models of the Dodge Viper? It seems to me that the Viper might appeal to you to some degree? It has always been a pretty slick looking package. Enthetan mentioned the Maseratti's. All of those Italian supercars are vary exotic, especially the Ferraris. What is your take on those? Also, the '36 Cord, does that do anything for you?
Its funny that you, Zinj and me all liked the Triumphs, the TR3 and the TR6 and TR7 as well. That was a real nice little package, a lot of sports car for a reasonable amount of money in all of those handsome models.
How about the ugliest cars ever. I though the 1951 Nash bathtub design was pretty awful, the 1950 Airflyte was not bad but in 1951 they ruiined the rear tail light assembly and it looked terible. The Citroen 2CV looked like a poor man's golf cart. One of the French cars look so weird to me in the 1960's that all models of that car looked as if they had been in an accident. The American Crosley was ugly but a little bit on the cute side. The Hudson Jet looked terrible, it was designed to resemble a 1952 Ford but then it was made narrower and taller than a Ford and was really ugly.
the 1957 Chrysler Corp line up introducing high fins looked great the first year or two but those morphed into some hideous designs, particularly for Dodge and Plymouth around 1961 and 1962. Those models nearly put Chrysler of of business. The 3 wheel jobs, BMW Isetta 600 plus Gogomobile and Messerschmidt models all looked terrible when they hit the USA around 1958. Its funny that those German companies were forbidden from making automobiles because of the terms of WWII but the three wheelers were considered motorcycles. Though ugly, they were kind of cute just like the Mercedes Smart Car of today, ugly but cute.
Lakey
Carmelo - I believe the trouble is that the original Avanti was engineered to take the 289 cubic inch Studebaker engine, their designation "R1". Their bigger engine option was to install a supercharger on the R1 and call it an R2. When Studebaker went belly up and the Avanti was taken over by private investor Nate Altman the Studebaker marque was out of production and no more engines were available so Altman cut a deal with the Chevrolet Division of General Motors to purchase Corvette engines for use in the Avanti II's. They wanted the big block Corvette engines of the day which the Avanti's were not designed to have originally so the engines had to be shoehorned in under the hoods.
The big GM engines were much more powerful than the Studebaker engines and they were of a later vintage too so they took up all the room under the hood. That was not the fault of Studey's original design team but a problem Altman created and had to deal with.
What did you think of the Avanti's styling, did it do anything for you? What about various models of the Dodge Viper? It seems to me that the Viper might appeal to you to some degree? It has always been a pretty slick looking package. Enthetan mentioned the Maseratti's. All of those Italian supercars are vary exotic, especially the Ferraris. What is your take on those? Also, the '36 Cord, does that do anything for you?
Its funny that you, Zinj and me all liked the Triumphs, the TR3 and the TR6 and TR7 as well. That was a real nice little package, a lot of sports car for a reasonable amount of money in all of those handsome models.
How about the ugliest cars ever. I though the 1951 Nash bathtub design was pretty awful, the 1950 Airflyte was not bad but in 1951 they ruiined the rear tail light assembly and it looked terible. The Citroen 2CV looked like a poor man's golf cart. One of the French cars look so weird to me in the 1960's that all models of that car looked as if they had been in an accident. The American Crosley was ugly but a little bit on the cute side. The Hudson Jet looked terrible, it was designed to resemble a 1952 Ford but then it was made narrower and taller than a Ford and was really ugly.
the 1957 Chrysler Corp line up introducing high fins looked great the first year or two but those morphed into some hideous designs, particularly for Dodge and Plymouth around 1961 and 1962. Those models nearly put Chrysler of of business. The 3 wheel jobs, BMW Isetta 600 plus Gogomobile and Messerschmidt models all looked terrible when they hit the USA around 1958. Its funny that those German companies were forbidden from making automobiles because of the terms of WWII but the three wheelers were considered motorcycles. Though ugly, they were kind of cute just like the Mercedes Smart Car of today, ugly but cute.
Lakey
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Be Still My Heart
I couldn’t afford my ‘60’s dream car—the Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII—so I bought a Datsun 2000 Roadster instead. It wasn’t as pretty, throaty and refined as the Healey but it would blow the doors off the Triumphs and MG's, run with the Healy's and Porsche's, had a higher top end (an honest 135 mph) than the Healey and redlined at 7,000 rpm.
My first car was a black ’57 Ford Custom 300 Police Special, 2 door Coupe with 4bl 312 V8 (the one with the small, straight fins a la the T-Bird that year). She had a great sound with the headers and glasspacks I added. You had to drop the trannie to change the Bendex Starter even though there was tons of room under the hood…go figure.:confused2:
My favorite personal vehicle of all time was my ’64 Royal Enfield Interceptor…GAWD whatamachine she was…a real beast…they came from the factory with velocity stacks on the twin SU carbs…along with the Vincent they were the first “Superbikes”. Enfield Interceptors were handcrafted in the basement of the Enfield Rifle factory (BSA's were made by Birmingham Small Arms)...every dozen or so were a little different than the previous dozen or so. I'd been riding a Honda 450 Scrambler and had taken a few spins on a Triumph Bonneville, BSA Rocket and Harley Sportster and my test ride on the Enfield was absolutely breathtaking...definately a different league. I got pulled over by motorcycle troopers now and then that just wanted to look at her and talk bikes…Enfield's were very rare in the States. I would offer every trooper the bike for a spin and a few took me up on it...they all brought her back with pounding hearts and grinning from ear to ear. With the Lucas electrics and drum brakes things could get real “sporty” sometimes!
When my first wife said either the Enfield goes or she goes I made one of the biggest mistakes of my life.
Face
I couldn’t afford my ‘60’s dream car—the Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII—so I bought a Datsun 2000 Roadster instead. It wasn’t as pretty, throaty and refined as the Healey but it would blow the doors off the Triumphs and MG's, run with the Healy's and Porsche's, had a higher top end (an honest 135 mph) than the Healey and redlined at 7,000 rpm.
My first car was a black ’57 Ford Custom 300 Police Special, 2 door Coupe with 4bl 312 V8 (the one with the small, straight fins a la the T-Bird that year). She had a great sound with the headers and glasspacks I added. You had to drop the trannie to change the Bendex Starter even though there was tons of room under the hood…go figure.:confused2:
My favorite personal vehicle of all time was my ’64 Royal Enfield Interceptor…GAWD whatamachine she was…a real beast…they came from the factory with velocity stacks on the twin SU carbs…along with the Vincent they were the first “Superbikes”. Enfield Interceptors were handcrafted in the basement of the Enfield Rifle factory (BSA's were made by Birmingham Small Arms)...every dozen or so were a little different than the previous dozen or so. I'd been riding a Honda 450 Scrambler and had taken a few spins on a Triumph Bonneville, BSA Rocket and Harley Sportster and my test ride on the Enfield was absolutely breathtaking...definately a different league. I got pulled over by motorcycle troopers now and then that just wanted to look at her and talk bikes…Enfield's were very rare in the States. I would offer every trooper the bike for a spin and a few took me up on it...they all brought her back with pounding hearts and grinning from ear to ear. With the Lucas electrics and drum brakes things could get real “sporty” sometimes!
When my first wife said either the Enfield goes or she goes I made one of the biggest mistakes of my life.
Face
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Cars I Wouldn't Have Kicked Out of Bed
Yeah, the datsun 2000 was a nice car, but, the 240Z was prettier
Some other oddballs:
Opel GT
Saab Sonett
but, my first car was a Renault Dauphine
God, I hated that car Uglier than a beetle and no poop. I wanted to put a yellow racing stripe on it, but, my dad had no sense of humor
Zinj
Yeah, the datsun 2000 was a nice car, but, the 240Z was prettier
Some other oddballs:
Opel GT
Saab Sonett
but, my first car was a Renault Dauphine
God, I hated that car
Uglier than a beetle and no poop. I wanted to put a yellow racing stripe on it, but, my dad had no sense of humor Zinj
CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
Saab Sonett
Gail Pollack had a Saab Sonnet. We were living together across from the AO. one day we were in her car leaving a grocery store, and a lady in a big Ford rear ended us. The sonnet was made of fiberglass. She barely tapped it, and yet, a big crack appeared. When she saw the damage from the little tap, and heard what what it was going to cost to repair, she came unglued.
but, my first car was a Renault Dauphine
God, I hated that car
Pronounced RE NALT DOE FEEN not Ren O
French wasn't spoken yet in the US of A.
My first car was (drum roll) an International Harvester 1958 black panel truck that I had rebuilt the engine of. It didn't have side or rear windows. Since it wasn't carpeted in back, I put a mattress on the bed for comfort. I'm not quite sure why some of my girl friends' parents didn't like me, or want their daughters riding in the truck.
During lunch break at high school, a bunch of my friends and I would smoke these refreshing herb cigarettes (that we hand rolled) inside my truck.
My girl friend, in my senior year taught art (as a student teacher) for first period at my high school. I did speech first period, and then we left for The City, the beach, or wherever in her Fix It Again Tony (Fiat), pictured in the background. It was a cute little car. She was a cute little number.
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Car Talk
So where did you send her (the wife) ?
In the sixties I bought my only new vehicle, a 6-speed (perfect ratios) two-stroke Suzuki X-6, a small bike but fastest to 50 and <6 seconds to sixty. Handled well rubbing the folding footpegs to each side.
My uncle was a real daredevil taking a Vincent Black Shadow up to 130 mph on a potholed road, and turning his jacket inside out to avoid the cops, etc.
I saw the forerunner of the Cobra at my High school when a guy put a Chevy
289 V-8 in an English AC Bristol.
Speaking of shoehorning, what about the 4-cam V-6 Yamaha in the front of a
Ford Taurus SHO ?
Lakey, I recall the TR-3, when you put your arm outside you could touch the ground.
The Studebaker would be nice with a modern small V-8 and transmission and
maybe some mods to the rear suspension.
I had a friend in college who could take an MGA through an autocross at blinding speeds. The cones were just a blur. I preferred the road, even in snow sliding around the turns with a delicate touch.
Here is one of the most aesthetic cars (not for Ego type men):
http://www.google.com/images?q=fiat...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CEAQsAQwBA
Lots of memories from better times.
PS for Carmelo: That Renault was another car with the dangerous original Corvair rear suspension and more fixing than a Fiat.
I couldn’t afford my ‘60’s dream car—the Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII—so I bought a Datsun 2000 Roadster instead. It wasn’t as pretty, throaty and refined as the Healey but it would blow the doors off the Triumphs and MG's, run with the Healy's and Porsche's, had a higher top end (an honest 135 mph) than the Healey and redlined at 7,000 rpm.
My first car was a black ’57 Ford Custom 300 Police Special (the one with the small, straight fins a la the T-Bird that year). She had a great sound with the headers and glasspacks I added. You had to drop the trannie to change the Bendex Starter even though there was tons of room under the hood…go figure.:confused2:
My favorite personal vehicle of all time was my ’64 Royal Enfield Interceptor…GAWD whatamachine she was…a real beast…they came from the factory with velocity stacks on the twin SU carbs…along with the Vincent they were the first “Superbikes”. Enfield's were handcrafted in the basement of the Enfield Rifle factory (BSA's were made by Birmingham Small Arms). I got pulled over by motorcycle troopers now and then that just wanted to look at her and talk bikes…Enfield's were very rare in the States. I would offer every trooper the bike for a spin and a few took me up on it...they all brought her back with pounding hearts and grinning from ear to ear. With the Lucas electrics and drum brakes things could get real “sporty” sometimes!
When my first wife said either the Enfield goes or she goes I made one of the biggest mistakes of my life.
Face
So where did you send her (the wife) ?
In the sixties I bought my only new vehicle, a 6-speed (perfect ratios) two-stroke Suzuki X-6, a small bike but fastest to 50 and <6 seconds to sixty. Handled well rubbing the folding footpegs to each side.
My uncle was a real daredevil taking a Vincent Black Shadow up to 130 mph on a potholed road, and turning his jacket inside out to avoid the cops, etc.
I saw the forerunner of the Cobra at my High school when a guy put a Chevy
289 V-8 in an English AC Bristol.
Speaking of shoehorning, what about the 4-cam V-6 Yamaha in the front of a
Ford Taurus SHO ?
Lakey, I recall the TR-3, when you put your arm outside you could touch the ground.
The Studebaker would be nice with a modern small V-8 and transmission and
maybe some mods to the rear suspension.
I had a friend in college who could take an MGA through an autocross at blinding speeds. The cones were just a blur. I preferred the road, even in snow sliding around the turns with a delicate touch.
Here is one of the most aesthetic cars (not for Ego type men):
http://www.google.com/images?q=fiat...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CEAQsAQwBA
Lots of memories from better times.
PS for Carmelo: That Renault was another car with the dangerous original Corvair rear suspension and more fixing than a Fiat.
Ogsonofgroo
Crusader
Hey hey Lakey, my dad restored several 2CV's back when, and I got to drive 'the limo' (shiny black w/grandma's red interior) to high school for a couple of years. Ugly? Well maybe to some, but an engineering wonder of simplicity and, it could carry three of my friends in a ride that rivaled a caddy, in any type of weather
, dump the clutch and its roaring 17-20 horses would lay 10-14ft of premium Michelin rubber (and would out-do many 4x4's in the snow. Tight parking was a snap, drive the front end in and lift/hop the rear to fit (wanna see some pizzed off people tho, oi)Don't dis da Duck! :wink2:
Love machines, had many, my favorite 'ugly' was my first 'fast' car, a Gremlin X with 340hp, still miss the old rust-bucket
What I always wanted (and still do) was an XKE 2type, Venus in a machine imho *sigh* British made some beauty cars, love the Morgans (oooo to the v8's) and Healeys (esp. the mkIII), even the v8 Rovers. Almost bought a TR6 when I was young but I figured having my knees crunched up alla time wasn't worth it, I do not regret that decision
Kk, crapped up the thread enough for now
RogerB
Crusader
My favorite personal vehicle of all time was my ’64 Royal Enfield Interceptor…GAWD whatamachine she was…a real beast…they came from the factory with velocity stacks on the twin SU carbs…along with the Vincent they were the first “Superbikes”. Enfield's were handcrafted in the basement of the Enfield Rifle factory (BSA's were made by Birmingham Small Arms). I'd been ridding a Honda 450 Scrambler and had taken a few spins on a Triumph Bonneville, BSA Rocket and Harley Sportster and my test ride on the Enfield was absolutely breathtaking...definately a different league. I got pulled over by motorcycle troopers now and then that just wanted to look at her and talk bikes…Enfield's were very rare in the States. I would offer every trooper the bike for a spin and a few took me up on it...they all brought her back with pounding hearts and grinning from ear to ear. With the Lucas electrics and drum brakes things could get real “sporty” sometimes!
When my first wife said either the Enfield goes or she goes I made one of the biggest mistakes of my life.
Face
Ah, Face, you're singing my song now when you talk Vincents and Royal Enfields . . . but for sheer grace and style on four wheels I love the Morgan.
Ya gotta love that British handmade thing they do . . . .
R
lkwdblds
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To Zinj and Face
I had a Datsun 2000 little convertible too. My first car when I was 17 was a 1952 Nash Rambler convertable. It was a nerdmobile, I was studying engineering in 2 year Fullerton Junior College. I had a flat top hair cut and wore glasses, put that together with the '52 Rambler and it spells NERD. I even wore a slide rule dangling from my belt as did most of my class mates.
I started working at North American in computers in June 62 at $600 a month which is probably about $4,000 a month today. I immediately bought a VW Beetle, which was a cream puff 1959 in blue. In "64 I read in Motor Trend about the new Dodge Dart and they rated it highly. I was dating a lot of women by then and the stick shift on my VW got in my way when I hit on the girls so I bought a brand new Dodge Dart Hardtop and sold the VW privately. In '66 I wanted something more sporty and read Motor Trend again and they were touting the Datsun 2000 sports car as a very good buy. Datsun was brand new to the USA and I had barely even heard of it. I went to a nearby dealer in Culver City and they were dealing hot and heavy, $2,600 out the door including all taxes and license. I drove out in a white one. It looked a lot like a British sports car but was maybe 1/3 less in money and was built very sturdy. It had that throaty sports car tone in its exhausts. It was not that powerful of a car. The top speed on mine was only 106 per the factory specs but I probably never took it over 85. Acceleration was peppy but not really much power, perhaps 0 to 60 took 12 or 13 seconds as compared to maybe 10 seconds in a Triumph TR 7 of the time. The Datsun got great mileage and was built like a tank, it never had even one problem in all the time I owned it. It had the stick shift again but I was a much cooler guy then, I was working out 4 or 5 days a week in the Gym and got my weight down to about 170 pounds, was about 6' tall with thick jet black hair, a great build and greenish hazel eyes. That was the best looking I ever got. I was a solid nine. Considering what my parents looked like, I did about the best that could be done within their gene pool. I only looked like that for about 3 years, ages 26 to 29 then my weight went back up to about 195. I rated my self a 7.5 to an 8 the rest of my life. You should see my hair now, just as thick and full as when I ws 26 only it is white instead of black. Well, at least the eyebrows are still black.
I am really happy that this segment on vintage autos is getting good responses on this thread. It is totally unexpected and a delight. Carmelo, Face, Leon, Zinj, Sweetness..... Its amazing how many of us have been involved with the Studebaker brand and also the Triumph TR 3 and the Datsun 2000. Absolutly amazing! If only I could get a response like this when I post on classical music but Leon is the only guy who ever responded to that except for Heidrun Beer. Speaking of her, she posts extremely heavy on facebook and I have been in touch with her over there. She no longer posts here.
Lakey
I had a Datsun 2000 little convertible too. My first car when I was 17 was a 1952 Nash Rambler convertable. It was a nerdmobile, I was studying engineering in 2 year Fullerton Junior College. I had a flat top hair cut and wore glasses, put that together with the '52 Rambler and it spells NERD. I even wore a slide rule dangling from my belt as did most of my class mates.
I started working at North American in computers in June 62 at $600 a month which is probably about $4,000 a month today. I immediately bought a VW Beetle, which was a cream puff 1959 in blue. In "64 I read in Motor Trend about the new Dodge Dart and they rated it highly. I was dating a lot of women by then and the stick shift on my VW got in my way when I hit on the girls so I bought a brand new Dodge Dart Hardtop and sold the VW privately. In '66 I wanted something more sporty and read Motor Trend again and they were touting the Datsun 2000 sports car as a very good buy. Datsun was brand new to the USA and I had barely even heard of it. I went to a nearby dealer in Culver City and they were dealing hot and heavy, $2,600 out the door including all taxes and license. I drove out in a white one. It looked a lot like a British sports car but was maybe 1/3 less in money and was built very sturdy. It had that throaty sports car tone in its exhausts. It was not that powerful of a car. The top speed on mine was only 106 per the factory specs but I probably never took it over 85. Acceleration was peppy but not really much power, perhaps 0 to 60 took 12 or 13 seconds as compared to maybe 10 seconds in a Triumph TR 7 of the time. The Datsun got great mileage and was built like a tank, it never had even one problem in all the time I owned it. It had the stick shift again but I was a much cooler guy then, I was working out 4 or 5 days a week in the Gym and got my weight down to about 170 pounds, was about 6' tall with thick jet black hair, a great build and greenish hazel eyes. That was the best looking I ever got. I was a solid nine. Considering what my parents looked like, I did about the best that could be done within their gene pool. I only looked like that for about 3 years, ages 26 to 29 then my weight went back up to about 195. I rated my self a 7.5 to an 8 the rest of my life. You should see my hair now, just as thick and full as when I ws 26 only it is white instead of black. Well, at least the eyebrows are still black.
I am really happy that this segment on vintage autos is getting good responses on this thread. It is totally unexpected and a delight. Carmelo, Face, Leon, Zinj, Sweetness..... Its amazing how many of us have been involved with the Studebaker brand and also the Triumph TR 3 and the Datsun 2000. Absolutly amazing! If only I could get a response like this when I post on classical music but Leon is the only guy who ever responded to that except for Heidrun Beer. Speaking of her, she posts extremely heavy on facebook and I have been in touch with her over there. She no longer posts here.
Lakey
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She was a cute little number.
Got her number?
She seems more my taste than yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1WKjrTH5IA
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lkwdblds
Crusader
Hey hey Lakey, my dad restored several 2CV's back when, and I got to drive 'the limo' (shiny black w/grandma's red interior) to high school for a couple of years. Ugly? Well maybe to some, but an engineering wonder of simplicity and, it could carry three of my friends in a ride that rivaled a caddy, in any type of weather
Don't dis da Duck! :wink2:
Love machines, had many, my favorite 'ugly' was my first 'fast' car, a Gremlin X with 340hp, still miss the old rust-bucket
What I always wanted (and still do) was an XKE 2type, Venus in a machine imho *sigh* British made some beauty cars, love the Morgans (oooo to the v8's) and Healeys (esp. the mkIII), even the v8 Rovers. Almost bought a TR6 when I was young but I figured having my knees crunched up alla time wasn't worth it, I do not regret that decision
Kk, crapped up the thread enough for now
Some wisened comments Ogson. An AMC Gremlin with 340 horses, that must have been fast. I know the AMX had the 340 engine but I did not know the company put that engine into a light Gremlin. What was the 0 to 60? It couldn't have been much over 5 seconds if not under 5 seconds.
Oh yes, on the subject of the ugliest cars, I forgot the Henry J. put out by Kaiser- Willys. Kaiser and Fraser broke up and "Hurry up" Henry J. Kaiser bought out Willys with their Jeep division from world war II days. The Henry J was an ugly little economy car with a 4 cylinder engine. It was even sold in the Sears catalogue as the Alstate. Very few people remember that fact.
My wife, or ex wife is from France and her Dad had a Citroen 2 CV, she pronounces it Deux Chevaux or something like that. Phonetically it would be due shvow and it means 2 cylinders I believe or the word Chevaux has some root with the French word for horse. She and her brother loved it and said it was fun. Later on her Dad bought a 4CV and they thought that was luxury. I knew a guy who owned the Renault Dauphine. I rode a lot like a VW Beetle but I thought it was much nicer looking. The one thing is that the ride was like a buckboard. If you drove over a dime, you could tell if it was heads or tails. What a bumpy suspension system, unbelievably poor. Another weird French car I remember is the Dyna - Panhard. That thing was weird looking and was around in the late 1950's. I was the type of engine where you have to add oil to the gasoline like some motorbikes or motor scooters. I went on youtube and some guy in Michigan drives his Dyna-Panhard around his neighborhood. It is really a strange design, the front and the back both - only the French could devise something so weird.
Lakey
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Ogsonofgroo
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The Gremlin I acquired had a 304/four bolt main (custom done, they did not do four bolts but had the metal to do 'em), jeep motor, jeep 3-speed, jeep rear, it'd do 0-60 in around 4 secs if I rem correctly (hey 30yrs ago fer cripes sake), top speed was around 100mph, and with my 10" TA's on the rear and 8's up front, and my wild ways, not much kept up with me on the back-roads
I had it balanced and blue-printed, dumping headers (fun), and a bit better rv cam put in, it were a good sleeper *sigh*Btw, deux Chevaux = Two Horses
afaceinthecrowd
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Lakey,
Cool story!
My Maternal Grandfather had a few Studees...and a DeSoto...I loved them.
Are you sure it was a Datsun 2000 and not the 1600?
The 1600 topped out at about 110 or so...I got my 2000 up to 125 or so a few times...but that's another story.
Face
Cool story!
My Maternal Grandfather had a few Studees...and a DeSoto...I loved them.
Are you sure it was a Datsun 2000 and not the 1600?
The 1600 topped out at about 110 or so...I got my 2000 up to 125 or so a few times...but that's another story.
Face
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CarmeloOrchards
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Lakey,
Cool!
My Maternal Grandfather had a few Studees...and a DeSoto...I loved them.
Are you sure it was a Datsun 2000 and not the 1600?
The 1600 topped out at about 110 or so...I got my 2000 up to 125 or so a few times...but that's another story.
Face
I had my "Corn Binder" (International Harvester) up to 105 downhill from the San Luis Reservoir
CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
Got her number?
She seems more my taste than yours.
yes I do, as a matter of fact.
She's a single school teacher living on a golf course in Nor Cal.
We've been friends and off and on lovers for decades. We've never even as much as kissed one another, when one of us wasn't married.
these are from the late 1960s. She's older now.
We also lived together when I was on the briefing course back in that other century.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Ar9Q0Eru4
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lkwdblds
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Lakey,
Cool story!
My Maternal Grandfather had a few Studees...and a DeSoto...I loved them.
Are you sure it was a Datsun 2000 and not the 1600?
The 1600 topped out at about 110 or so...I got my 2000 up to 125 or so a few times...but that's another story.
Face
Face, you're a genius, no wonder my Datsun topped out at 106, it was only a 1600 and not a 2000.
De Soto was a good brand, sort of a junior Chrysler. There best looking cars were the 1957 models. The brand became well known because they sponsored the Groucho Marx quiz show.
Lakey
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... that'd be a fair way ...
ta da bingggg!
Aren't we all.
Mark A. Baker
p.s. thanks for the dd cut. I always loved her voice.
CarmeloOrchards
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p.s. thanks for the dd cut. I always loved her voice.
I've always loved Doris Day, from the first time I saw her on the silver screen. if I see a Doris Day /Rock Hudson movie on the teley, I watch it.
One night on the Tonight Show, long ago, John Denver asked her out on a date. I thought that was really cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIIA-iDaQHw&feature=related
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