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Leon

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The advent of the FCCI's (term for public receiving services on the Apollo—Flag Case Completion Intensives) boomed while the Ship was in the Caribbean. The rates were high and the cost of delivery minimal. It was “easy money” and could go straight to Sea Org Reserves without any “bleed-off” or vias.

Due to security considerations the FCCI “Target Market” were established well healed Scios and Mission Holders and the focus was on expensive, “Flag Only” services, like the Case Cracker Rundown and L 10, 11 and 12. Early on during this expanded Public delivery it was seen that the Target Markets were not only viable but that there was a huge potential market in training the Mission Holders Staffs. There was only one big problem…the Apollo was not big enough and posh enough to make this possible. What small number of decent berthing spaces there was were increasingly being taken away from Senior Officers and Execs for FCCI’s, and even they were sometimes having to share tiny cabins on the MUD’s. The overcrowded course rooms were down in lower holds and that, let alone the non air-conditioned conditions in a tropical climate, was a big limiter. Confidential Missions were fired out to look for a full-fledge ocean liner (such as the Rotterdam) to replace the Apollo as “Flag”.

As I earlier said in, “Adios Apollo, Part 1”, this period was the rise of El Ron, The Director. Weekly “Theater Night’s” were held with the Aft Well Deck as the theater and Aft Fan Deck and Aft MUD’s gangways and Prom Deck as the balconies. A recent release feature film was rented by RONY (Relay Office New York) and flown in, along with the other Ext Comm bundles. Popcorn was made and everyone in attendance, upstats only of course, had a grand time. Just before show time El Ron (dressed in his finest tailored tropical white “Commodore” costume descended from the Prom Deck with Mary Sue and the Family. It was a grand entrance to cheers, hip hips and all that jolly good rot. There was a special, comparatively large, perfectly located elevated “throne area” where the family would sit in large easy chairs and watch the flick, all the while being attended to by personal stewards. When El Ron and family reached the “throne mezzanine” Hisself would smile a toothy grin, hush the audience and say a few thank-you, sat down and the flick was on.

On one of these movie nights “The Sting” was shown. The Flag Service Consultant network was being established under the command of the infamous Uber Reg, David Light, and a compliment of these soon to be unleashed buccaneers was aboard. El Ron and Family (who I guess were always upstate as they never missed a flick) made the customary grand entrance, to the obligatory cheers and hip hips. Once El Ron had quieted the crowd Hisself said, with obvious delight and joy, “Now, I want all the reges to pay close attention…there’s some real tech here that you need to know well and apply.” El Ron laughed heartily and hisself's audience joined in. That moment is still “disturbing” to me...we all know what came after with Flag Reges and Reging, and Reges and Reging in general. BLS went from a tool to the rule.

And then it happened…two events that would forever change El Ron’s and Scientology’s destiny.

The first event, Operation Snow White, I knew only general information about—that it was a “heavy and deep ops” re: the US Government and we were “getting the goods’ on “them”. That event would blow up later and is well documented. I was not a part of, nor involved in, Snow White in anyway nor privy to any of the details of what was actually being done until it “blew up”.

The second event, which I will discuss in some detail here, was…El Ron, The OT has a heart attack in Curacao. .

One could hear Hisself’s bellows and anguished shrieks of pain throughout the MUD’s. It was unnerving, scary and, in a way, “earth shattering”. After several of the yelps and bellows I knew it was not one of Hisself’s fits of rage (which had been less frequent and severe since the Atlantic Crossing). I knew El Ron was not only in agonizing pain but that Hisself was in great distress, helpless. I headed for the Research Room and while on the way realized that El Ron must be in his Cabin. I headed for his Cabin and when I got there several HU (Household Unit) staff and messengers were already there. A very frazzled Cathy Cariotaki (Co HU) saw me and took me aside and said that Kima (Douglas) was in there with El Ron and she thought Hisself was having a heart attack. I asked what I could do and she said “Nothing”. She suggested that the best thing I could probably do is go to my office and standby for any orders from El Ron, Mary Sue or Kima. I did so, for hours, even after Hisself was whisked away to the hospital. I was shittin’ bricks, and the entire MUD’s were spooked for days. But also, honestly I have to tell Yall folks, life was easier going, with much less “edge” to it with El Ron off the lines.

After Hisself was discharged from the hospital El Ron and a small entourage took up residence in the ultra-posh Intercontinental Hotel in Willemstad. Not too long after that the “inner circle” learned that we weren’t buying a bigger, better ship—we were not only heading to land, Flag would now be somewhere in the US. We were all thrilled, thrilled, thrilled that we were gonna be getting off that Ship. It was some weeks later before the majority of the Crew learned of the plans in an all Crew briefing.

The Crew briefing was, in my view, just another “Shore Story”.

I’ll pick things up from there in a few days in Adios Apollo, Part 3.

Face:)

A small anecdote - one which I have always been a bit "attached" to - I was DofP in Cape Town at that time and there was a night when for some unknown reason I simply could not get tp sleep.. I just lay awake feeling worried for no logical reason at all. Some sort of key-in I reckoned. Then towards early morning I got off to sleep and had this very vived dream of how the Apollo had crossed the Atlantic - something which she had never done before and was never designed to do.

I got to the Org at the usual time the next morning and told the guys the Apollo had crossed the Atlantic - this was their "North-west passage", I called it. Nobody believed that it had actually happened, even I was a bit sceptical of my dream.

Anyway, not too long after this I discovered that she had indeed crossed and at more or less the time of my dream.

Weird.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Thanks for Adios Apollo - 2

Thanks Face for posting Adios Apollo - 2. More gaps in my knowledge of Scio history are now filled in. I was glad to hear about His Nibbs Sr. watching the movies with his family and upstat staff being allowed to attend.

How did the crew react to LRH's severe heart attack. To me, that information would have caused a lot of people to quit. I mean C of S was selling cause over life, matter, energy, space and time both objectively and subjectively and to me that included controlling the MEST of one's body so that it functioned well at all times and I assumed that LRH could live as long as he wanted without body ailments or significant aging. If word of this heart attack and other hear attacks and subsequent strokes got out into the public, there would have been defections from the movement I am sure. That is why DM, Pat Broker and company concocted the biggest shore story of them all, that LRH causitively left a strong and healthy body for the purpose of doing higher level research which could only be done without a body. The crafty DM knew that if the public got word of how LRH's condition deteriiorated drastically and that he died from routine ailments and degeneration, there would be a large exodus from C of S. If he told the truth about LRH's death the Church would have shrunk immediately.

What about the Apollo crew? How did they take it, were there any defections there?
Lakey
 
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Today my wife and I babysat our current youngest set of grandchildren. They are 3 year old twins of our youngest boy. His wife is a teacher at my wife's school, and school is out for the summer. The son works in accounting, and has to go to work. His wife was sick today, so we got a last minute emergency call to take them. We cancelled and juggled our schedules. And so it was that we picked them up at 8 AM, took them home to play on the jungle gym, the swing set, the trampoline. My wife baked a yellow cake, and had the boys help her frost it with chocolate frosting. They really liked licking the spatulas.

Then we took them to their swimming class (which they just started this week), and they ducked under water, floated, blew bubbles, and splashed for a half hour.

We fed them a seven layer burrito fresco style with green sauce and a bowl of beans each at Taco Bell, drove them home and put them down for a nap.

When they got up we all went to the beach. They jumped off the concrete parapet into the sand. Pushed the toy metal bulldozer all over, dug a hole in the sand, and found rocks to fill the hole with. There was a free Wednesday night rock and roll concert in the bandstand by the beach. Maybe 500 people come every Wednesday night to these concerts. There's lots of dancing and picnics on the beach. We're pretty hooked on a certain hole in the wall pizza place that we've been going to for decades. We had pizza on the beach, and ice cream after walking around town.

Then we drove back over the hill, and took the boys home.

I didn't really tell you about our day to day life because it is special. It isn't. Loads of people love their children and grandchildren. I came to talk about Scientology and some of it's later day knock offs.

Especially, after reading Face's descriptions, it became completely clear to me. The tech below OT2 was a group endeavor. Something created and worked on by many very good people. The red on white up to Clear through about 1966 is not filled with money grubbing bullshit. After that, more and more opportunities to fleece the suckers reared their ugly heads. And thus was born "Standard Tech." By the mid 70s, greed had become the dominant paradigm.

I've tried a time or two to make a living with "Scientology." i've never been able to make that happen. I left the Co$ in 1976. Only in the last week or so, do I think I've separated enough of the truth from the bullshit, that I think, now, in a new unit of time, I have a good enough fix on my moral compass to offer my services without my worrying that it will lead to harm to others.

I don't ever intend to have my services be construed in any way to be a part of a "bridge"- that bridge idea is just "pie in the sky"

There are loads of processes. Most of them work really well in the right circumstances. I as a general rule, ask my clients, every session what goals they have for that session. I do my best to help my clients achieve those goals as fast as humanly possible using every bit of knowledge that I have.

Tonight I encouraged a person to talk to a local practitioner about healthier eating, sent a link about EFT, so that they could do it, and ran creative processes from the 50s.

Recently I've run power on an OT 6 and on a complete newbie also, because I thought it was the best action I could take on those clients at those exact moments. My desire is to help someone as fast as i can. I don't care what other people think is the safe way, the standard way, the way we've always done it, etc. I want my clients to win and win NOW.

It really boils down to understanding the cookie cutter grade chart and FESing and Flag only rundowns , and all the other add ons to the basic simplicity of helping someone. Money was the meta message of all of that.

I have a good life. I can help others to have a good life. I will not never no how no way ever help someone in such a way that they become a slave to the Co$ or any one of its subsequent replications. No more cults for me. Free thinking, independent, action oriented, productive, and responsible adults are what I want to help create.

Goose stepping robots aren't my people.

All of the church's BS about the only way out and the bridge and sacrificing self for the greatest good is just twaddle.

Having family, friends, dogs, cats, horses, fruit trees, vegetables, flowers, honey bees all around is what is truly important for me.

You may have an entirely different set of priorities and values. If I audit you, I work for you. I help you get what you want. It is your money and your time. I will not be helping people become Oat Tea because that is plain poppycock. It don't exist. Someday it may. that is another story. Call me when you've achieved it.

Tonight, our youngest daughter signed off in escrow for her condo in the City. It will fund and record shortly. She'll get $10K from the state for buying a new residence and $8K credit from Uncle Sam for buying a home before that cut off date. We'll get a commission for selling it to her, which will go back into paying down the note. She'll be paying a mortgage, which is tax deductible, instead of rent. She'll be acquiring equity. Her new lair overlooks AT&T Park and the Bay Bridge. There is a Whole Foods on the first floor in her building. How cool and righteous is that?! Her job is not far away. She can bike there or take public transit.

Life is for living, not for padding some fat asshole's pockets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emv3r0NxgQg

Thank you Robin, Michael, Licky, and Rose for this beautiful song. I can't say it any better.

Licky, where are you? I miss looking in your eyes.
 
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lkwdblds

Crusader
Thanks for opening the book on your life!!

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Today my wife and I babysat our current youngest set of grandchildren. They are 3 year old twins of our youngest boy. His wife is a teacher at my wife's school, and school is out for the summer. The son works in accounting, and has to go to work. His wife was sick today, so we got a last minute emergency call to take them. We cancelled and juggled our schedules. And so it was that we picked them up at 8 AM, took them home to play on the jungle gym, the swing set, the trampoline. My wife baked a yellow cake, and had the boys help her frost it with chocolate frosting. They really liked licking the spatulas.

Then we took them to their swimming class (which they just started this week), and they ducked under water, floated, blew bubbles, and splashed for a half hour.

We fed them a seven layer burrito fresco style with green sauce and a bowl of beans each at Taco Bell, drove them home and put them down for a nap.

When they got up we all went to the beach. They jumped off the concrete parapet into the sand. Pushed the toy metal bulldozer all over, dug a hole in the sand, and found rocks to fill the hole with. There was a free Wednesday night rock and roll concert in the bandstand by the beach. Maybe 500 people come every Wednesday night to these concerts. There's lots of dancing and picnics on the beach. We're pretty hooked on a certain hole in the wall pizza place that we've been going to for decades. We had pizza on the beach, and ice cream after walking around town.

Then we drove back over the hill, and took the boys home.

I didn't really tell you about our day to day life because it is special. It isn't. Loads of people love their children and grandchildren. I came to talk about Scientology and some of it's later day knock offs.

IMHO your day to day life may not consist of special things but it is nevertheless very special. Its specialness comes from its doing in abundance what so many of us want most to do in life and that is to have a family and love our spouse, our children and our grandchildren and use nature and this planet as the playground in which to express this love and also treasure man made creations such as good music, fast cars, and good food. By then having a very large family circle plus a very large group of friends and to help those friends achieve what you have, well that is a special life, very special. In fact, who could ask for more!

Especially, after reading Face's descriptions, it became completely clear to me. The tech below OT2 was a group endeavor. Something created and worked on by many very good people. The red on white up to Clear through about 1966 is not filled with money grubbing bullshit. After that, more and more opportunities to fleece the suckers reared their ugly heads. And thus was born "Standard Tech." By the mid 70s, greed had become the dominant paradigm.

We have used ESMB and this thread to come to the understandings which you have expressed in the above paragraph. We then cross check our deductions with those of wise persons such as a Ken Urquhart or a Gier Isene and find out that our conclusions and theirs match up. Step by step, with the wonderful assistance of so many contributors on this thread we were able to reach an understanding of what Hubbard and his tech were all about.

I've tried a time or two to make a living with "Scientology." i've never been able to make that happen. I left the Co$ in 1976. Only in the last week or so, do I think I've separated enough of the truth from the bullshit, that I think, now, in a new unit of time, I have a good enough fix on my moral compass to offer my services without my worrying that it will lead to harm to others.

I don't ever intend to have my services be construed in any way to be a part of a "bridge"- that bridge idea is just "pie in the sky"

There are loads of processes. Most of them work really well in the right circumstances. I as a general rule, ask my clients, every session what goals they have for that session. I do my best to help my clients achieve those goals as fast as humanly possible using every bit of knowledge that I have.

Tonight I encouraged a person to talk to a local practitioner about healthier eating, sent a link about EFT, so that they could do it, and ran creative processes from the 50s.

Recently I've run power on an OT 6 and on a complete newbie also, because I thought it was the best action I could take on those clients at those exact moments. My desire is to help someone as fast as i can. I don't care what other people think is the safe way, the standard way, the way we've always done it, etc. I want my clients to win and win NOW.

It really boils down to understanding the cookie cutter grade chart and FESing and Flag only rundowns , and all the other add ons to the basic simplicity of helping someone. Money was the meta message of all of that.

I have a good life. I can help others to have a good life. I will not never no how no way ever help someone in such a way that they become a slave to the Co$ or any one of its subsequent replications. No more cults for me. Free thinking, independent, action oriented, productive, and responsible adults are what I want to help create.

Goose stepping robots aren't my people.

All of the church's BS about the only way out and the bridge and sacrificing self for the greatest good is just twaddle.

Having family, friends, dogs, cats, horses, fruit trees, vegetables, flowers, honey bees all around is what is truly important for me.

You may have an entirely different set of priorities and values. If I audit you, I work for you. I help you get what you want. It is your money and your time. I will not be helping people become Oat Tea because that is plain poppycock. It don't exist. Someday it may. that is another story. Call me when you've achieved it.


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Carmelo, thanks for revealing your game plan of what you want to achieve out of life and how you are going about achieving it. You are very successful at what you do and it is fantastic that you are willing to share your secrets with us. I thank you very much for doing so!!

Hubbard started off on a certain course of action and delivered into our hands the makings of a self betterment system with many processes and techniques which are capable of helping people. We must acknowledge this and give him a lot of credit for doing this. At some point, he lost his focus and his way and his program degenerated into a money making and power grabbing machine.

There is a huge debate going on as to whether or not he ever intended to help people or if right from the start his only game was to gain power and control over people, use them, abuse them, take all their money and throw their used carcasses into a trash bin. I believe we, as free people who were both helped and harmed by his activities do have the right to objectively critque him. As to whether he was totally evil from the start or did really want to help mankind in the early part of his career, we all have our opinions but our opinions are subjective, it is a lot of fun for those who like puzzles and detective stories, to try and figure out Hubbard's motives but it is not really necessary nor of vital importance to do this.

SUMMARY - Creating a Fractal of Scientology!
Hubbard's method was to examine all knowledge and wisdom from mankinds' existence, then select out what worked and discard what did not work. What we need to do and what Carmelo has essentially done in his life, in my opinion, please correct me if I am wrong, is to use Hubbard's own methods to analyze his entire body of wisdom and select out what works and discard the rest. In others words, create a Fractal of all of Scientology tech and any other extant tech which has some workability. This Fractal would be the things within Scientology and other systems which are designed to help people and which work. The huge amount of garbage and non survival crap which is abundant in Scientology and vaious other practices is thrown into the trash bin where it belongs.
Lakey
 
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Ted

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Personally, I had some really big "wins" in Scn and Processing. I also had some really bad shit happen...really bad shit. I've had really big "wins' outside of Scn and Auditing...and had some bad shit happen, too. It is my opinion that Scn Processing is a crap-shoot. I think Carmelo’s post re: “God” and God-like…loving your PC, etc. has great truth and wisdom.:yes:

I think that Scn Processing can open up shit that it can’t handle…I think it also “handles” shit that wasn’t there to begin with. I think it can titillate you and lull you into a position or state wherein you are the unknowing and willing “Host” for “Parasites”. .:angry:

Shermer’s stuff is excellent. It raises important issues. I think all of us are “exterior”. I think “being in one’s head” is an illusory perception. I think all of us are our own “Philosophic” machine. Without the brain, there is “meaning” but no “context”. Without our “Essence”—or whatever you want to call “It”—there is nothing but context and no deciphering of meaning. Context is meaningless noise without “Us”. With “Us” it is still noise, but “meaning” inters in—and that can get very confusing depending upon what parts of the noise are focused on or given attention by “Us”, OR accentuated by the “feed” from the brain. There is no “Universal Best or Only Tech” for each of “Us”…there is no “Universal Path or Way” for any of "Us”. But, without “Us”, all of “Us” are without meaning and “lost” in "context".:coolwink:

Face :)


Facey, your post deserves a lengthy response because it brought to view many things I have been meaning to write. For now, here is a little video that says a bunch -- especially if all a person can afford, before or after scientology, is a 6-pack:

Satisfied Mind
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
I don't think LRH threw Ken under the bus.

At one point he told Ken he was too much of a gentleman and didn't
induct him into whatever ungentlemanly stuff he was about to embark on.

Ken eventually was leaving Flag quietly, and then Steve Marlow make a
fuss and spit in his face, and I believe issued an SP declare.

Yeah...you're right...El Ron walked away and let the runaway bus, driven by Hisself’s spawn, run over Urq. Urq, the guy that stood by Hisself through thick and thin, was at El Ron's beck and call 24-7, ceaselessly covered Hisself’s back quietly and honorably. If you or I had been fortunate enough to have an Urq at our side we woulda made sure he had a pure comm line to us for the rest of our lives…we woulda a checked on him from time to time to see how he was doing, to watch out for him, to care about him. Steve Marlow was a self affected, First Class Idiot Jackass with no clue, nor capability to have a clue, as to who and what Urq was and is. Urq was easin’ his way out ‘cause he was being squeezed out. Marlow was running an op, taunting Urq so that the CMO could get the public hanging they so dearly wanted.:angry:

Oh, and now that I think about this some more, Mary Sue wasn’t thrown under the bus, either. She jumped under the bus for El Ron and after she got out of the "hospital" the CMO cut her tongue out, gouged her eyes and cut her limbs off. Then, when El Ron El Rey checks out, that same bus, driven by Hisself’s spawn, runs over a defensless and shattered Mary Sue. If you or I had been fortunate enough to have a Mary Sue at our side we woulda “brought her home from the hospital” and cared for her, watched out for her, loved her. We woulda never let anything or anyone ever touch her again and we woulda provided for her well being and security after we were gone.:angry:

Face:)
 
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Facey, your post deserves a lengthy response because it brought to view many things I have been meaning to write. For now, here is a little video that says a bunch -- especially if all a person can afford, before or after scientology, is a 6-pack:

Satisfied Mind

I've often said, "There's two kinds of music, country and western."

But the song talks about leaving this world with a satisfied mind.

I would much rather leave this world peacefully in my sleep, like grandpa, instead of that screaming and carrying on by all the other people in the car he was driving.

As Henny Youngman would say, "But seriously folks..."

We used to rent a pasture from a guy. He got cancer, and died. He died on a Wednesday. On the Monday of the same week, he and his kids used their season tickets to a Monday night football game at Candlestick Park for a Forty Niner game.

Contrast that with dying alone with a couple of not even nurses on some far from public hideout. Having only comm lines through your "trusted" messengers. Your staff, family, etc being given a shore story of special assignment or whatever. Lies and damn lies.

I'll take being surrounded by family and friends at a football game any day of the week.
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
Hubbard started off on a certain course of action and delivered into our hands the makings of a self betterment system with many processes and techniques which are capable of helping people. We must acknowledge this and give him a lot of credit for doing this. At some point, he lost his focus and his way and his program degenerated into a money making and power grabbing machine.

What we need to do and what Carmelo has essentially done in his life, in my opinion, please correct me if I am wrong, is to use Hubbard's own methods to analyze his entire body of wisdom and select out what works and discard the rest. In others words, create a Fractal of all of Scientology tech and any other extant tech which has some workability. This Fractal would be the things within Scientology and other systems which are designed to help people and which work. The huge amount of garbage and non survival crap which is abundant in Scientology and various other practices is thrown into the trash bin where it belongs.
Lakey


^ ^ ^ ^ This is the right way tp go ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
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FoTi

Crusader
Carmelo, I just love the stories you tell about your family life. They make me feel so good. :)

I hope you keep sharing them with us.
 
Rah, Rah, Sis Boom Bah!

I've often said, "There's two kinds of music, country and western."

But the song talks about leaving this world with a satisfied mind.

I would much rather leave this world peacefully in my sleep, like grandpa, instead of that screaming and carrying on by all the other people in the car he was driving.

As Henny Youngman would say, "But seriously folks..."

We used to rent a pasture from a guy. He got cancer, and died. He died on a Wednesday. On the Monday of the same week, he and his kids used their season tickets to a Monday night football game at Candlestick Park for a Forty Niner game.

Contrast that with dying alone with a couple of not even nurses on some far from public hideout. Having only comm lines through your "trusted" messengers. Your staff, family, etc being given a shore story of special assignment or whatever. Lies and damn lies.

I'll take being surrounded by family and friends at a football game any day of the week.

Me too, Carmellow. (I've decided you're misspelling your nickname! :coolwink:)

Every member of my immediate family who has passed on during my lifetime had a VERY good death...meaning that no matter the circumstances, that they LIVED right up until the moment that they died...surrounded by family and friends, community, pets, gardens, wild critters in and at the edge of the gardens, all carrying on the fun and challenge of living together. :)

None were ever isolated, alone or overwhelmed with fear as they crossed over. I'm not sure if this is the Mennonite influence or just being from good farmer stock and living close to the earth and nature, or what...but it has been a very big blessing in my life to have experienced this with them, given the pathological fears with which our surrounding dominant western society views death and dying.

I was there to help ease many of the passings, and there was very little struggle or strain, just a sense of peacefull awareness of "self" being there, and then moving on to another understanding and expression of life in a different form.

From my perspective, there was a sense of a happy reunion of loved ones who came to greet them and accompany them to wherever they were going. The Celtic side of the family has all kept in touch with one another, both in this world and beyond it, and it was usual to rely on the aide, advice, and comfort of "unseen hands". I grew up with this awareness and practice being considered "normal" in my family, and have always secretly felt that others who didn't share these experiences were handicapped in some way, or just asleep to higher sensibilities and a greater view of "reality".

This is not a topic that is talked about much outside of the circle of family and friends who also have an awareness and daily practice of Spiritual reality, for obvious reasons. I include many of my "soul-mates" here on this thread in that community of aware beings. :D

The song makes me feel like, let's live every day "with a satisfied mind"! That's quite a discipline! :happydance: So worth the effort! :)

And on a humerous note: When the topic of dying comes up, I always say that I want to die in bed at the age of 98, shot by a jealous lover! :D (Maybe I should make that 102!)
 
I totally duplicate and validate this experience!

A small anecdote - one which I have always been a bit "attached" to - I was DofP in Cape Town at that time and there was a night when for some unknown reason I simply could not get tp sleep.. I just lay awake feeling worried for no logical reason at all. Some sort of key-in I reckoned. Then towards early morning I got off to sleep and had this very vived dream of how the Apollo had crossed the Atlantic - something which she had never done before and was never designed to do.

I got to the Org at the usual time the next morning and told the guys the Apollo had crossed the Atlantic - this was their "North-west passage", I called it. Nobody believed that it had actually happened, even I was a bit sceptical of my dream.

Anyway, not too long after this I discovered that she had indeed crossed and at more or less the time of my dream.

Weird.

Leon, this isn't weird at all, you Sweetie! :) It's just a skill or talent like any other. People communicate via their thoughts and dreams and experience a group mind or collective knowledge and awareness all the time, especially here in California!! :p

(You must have some Celtic ancestors! :D) Our minds are capable of doing much more than we are taught to think we can do. I think this kind of thing was a BIG survival skill for us collectively before we had technology to rely on for communications!

Yes, you can help the world in the middle of the night while you are asleep, or if you can't get to sleep! Beings need help, assistance, assurance, and like to give help, both. Some of us are called to do this work, Leon...maybe you are, too.

If I or any other member of this thread ever comes into your thinking like that, do some protective work for us or send them some good theta energy, because it's probably for a reason, which you may or may not ever learn about! :coolwink:

Thanks for sharing this story, I'll bet there are others out there! Let's hear them folks... :)
 
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Scavanger Hunt Additional

More Scavanger hunt:

O.K. Guys, find this!:

"Two hats were hanging on a hat rack in the hallway. One hat said to the other: 'You stay here; I'll go on a head.' " :p

A prize to whoever finds it first! :D
 
Bet Geir's reading us, too! Hi Honey!

I see that Geir used the "SO Org Chart" that you posted here some time ago...Carmelo Scripps, always with the scoop...read it first, read it here.:thumbsup:

Geir seems to think we all's kinda rabid over here...I like Geir, a lot...I'm not OTVIII and brilliant, but damnit Geir I knew the man, I personally served the man and so did a number of other folks over here...we aint all rabid, least not most the time, and we aint no bunch a rabbits, that's for damn sure.:yes:

Face:)

Heh, actually, we're Squirrels! :happydance:
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Lakey, this was financial fraud, pure and simple. :grouch:

And may I say that I platonically LOVE Brother Facey's esoteric butt, and I hope he keeps it right here and goes on sharing his insights and memories with us! :thumbsup: :happydance:

I platonically LOVES your little Tush, too..Sis.:happydance:

I didn't know what "Golden Quotes" was or meant until yesterday...you're very kind.:hattip: Lots of good stuff over there...I'm gonna read that thread from Post 1 over the next few weeks.:thumbsup:

Face:)
 
Hoo, Boy...

and you posted the Dirt Band doing "Will the Circle Be Unbroken?"

Here is the Dirt Band's first hit, Buy For Me the Rain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qhUjixmP28

which was written by Steve Noonan

whose first ex wife, was my girl friend before he met her, who was my girl friend, at one point while they were married, and was my girl friend after they were divorced ( three separate periods).

whose sister, Laurie Noonan, was also my girlfriend, and who I got into Scientology. Who has been in the Sea Org for 37 fucking years. Whose daughter, Jessica Engelhart has herself been in the Sea Org nearly ten years and (obviously) raised in the mecca of hell hole perfection.

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How can you look at that beautiful girl, and not slug me hard in the face for introducing her mother to Scientology? Ask me if I feel upset and guilt ridden about that.


Laurie's mom is still alive. Laurie has a sister and brothers that I am still connected to. They all know I'm the one who got her involved. They rarely see her. Boy, would I like to see the cult dismantled.

This post and many of the other stories here about waking up from the darkness of Corporate Scientology reminds me of the lines with which Dante's classic Inferno begins:

"Just halfway through Life's journey
I re-awake to find myself in a dark wood...
Far off course, the right way lost.
How hard it is to tell what this
wild, harsh forbidding wood was like...
whose merest memory brings back my fear;
For only death exceeds it's bitterness.
But I found goodness there: I'll deal with that
as I describe the various things I saw."

I want everyone still in to get free, and for nobody else to ever become "trapped" by Scientology. Many good people are working towards this goal in many different ways, including us, by telling the truth here.

How to handle the pain and guilt of knowing some good person is still trapped and kept from living a comfortable and fulfilling life, that someone you got in is still in? Take action (which you are doing, Carmelo) to help others heal and get more free.

Maybe you can't directly effect the ones you got in personally, anymore, but you can be a force for good for many others.

Trust the Universe to assist with this process. :) Look at our success here! :happydance:
 
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I don't think LRH threw Ken under the bus.

At one point he told Ken he was too much of a gentleman and didn't
induct him into whatever ungentlemanly stuff he was about to embark on.

Ken eventually was leaving Flag quietly, and then Steve Marlow make a
fuss and spit in his face, and I believe issued an SP declare.

My great grandfather had a gold seal for sealing wax, which is now my daughter's. It says "Words & Deeds"

If it is something I've only learned on this thread and ESMB (plus life experiences) only, it is that with LRH and Ron bots words don't have anything to do with actions.
 

afaceinthecrowd

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A small anecdote - one which I have always been a bit "attached" to - I was DofP in Cape Town at that time and there was a night when for some unknown reason I simply could not get tp sleep.. I just lay awake feeling worried for no logical reason at all. Some sort of key-in I reckoned. Then towards early morning I got off to sleep and had this very vived dream of how the Apollo had crossed the Atlantic - something which she had never done before and was never designed to do.

I got to the Org at the usual time the next morning and told the guys the Apollo had crossed the Atlantic - this was their "North-west passage", I called it. Nobody believed that it had actually happened, even I was a bit sceptical of my dream.

Anyway, not too long after this I discovered that she had indeed crossed and at more or less the time of my dream.

Weird.

Cue up the Opening Theme for "Twilight Zone"...da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da.:coolwink:

Very cool, Leon.:thumbsup:

Wish it would have been a one night dream for me...I'm prone to sea sickness. I fed a lot of fish.:melodramatic:

Face:)
 
Oh Goody!

I platonically LOVES your little Tush, too..Sis.:happydance:

I didn't know what "Golden Quotes" was or meant until yesterday...you're very kind.:hattip: Lots of good stuff over there...I'm gonna read that thread from Post 1 over the next few weeks.:thumbsup:

Face:)

Thank You! :blush: Please feel free to add to it, too...it's a co-operative, collective effort! :thumbsup: Everybody join in! :happydance:

Open invitation to everybody--
See the thread: "Golden Quotes of ESMB", and add your favorite posts from here on the board to it (from any thread). :clap:
 
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afaceinthecrowd

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Thanks Face for posting Adios Apoll - 2. More gaps in my knowledge of Scio history are now filled in. I was glad to hear about His Nibbs Sr. watching the movies with his family and upstat staff being allowed to attend.

How did the crew react to LRH's severe heart attack. To me, that information would have caused a lot of people to quit. I mean C of S was selling cause over life, matter, energy, space and time both objectively and subjectively and to me that included controlling the MEST of one's body so that it functioned well at all times and I assumed that LRH could live as long as he wanted without body ailments or significant aging. If word of this heart attack and other hear attacks and subsequent strokes got out into the public, there would have been defections from the movement I am sure. That is why DM, Pat Broker and company concocted the biggest shore story of them all, that LRH causitively left a strong and healthy body for the purpose of doing higher level research which could only be done without a body. The crafty DM knew that if the public got word of how LRH's condition deteriiorated drastically and that he died from routine ailments and degeneration, there would be a large exodus from C of S. If he told the truth about LRH's death the Church would have shrunk immediately.

What about the Apollo crew? How did they take it, were there any defections there?
Lakey

I don’t know what dots were connected by whom or what any of the Crew “fallout” was from El Ron’s heart attack. My opinion of "collateral fallout" will be covered in Adios Apollo, Part 3.

As I recall the “Event” happened at night. Most of the Crew were either secured or, in the case of FB and students, down in the tween decks holds on post or course. The way was cleared by “insiders” to get him surreptitiously off the ship. No one on the MUD’s would ever break “security” about the goings on up there. I never spoke with anyone about it…most ”insiders” just didn’t do that. I’m not sure if most of the Crew was aware of it…I was very involved with the stuff I had to do. There may have been some “Shore Story” about El Ron getting a check-up or something, but that is pure conjecture on my part. I just don’t remember.

The event was another in a series of “WTF’s” that I, personally, went through that lead me to walk away one day. My rationalization for it at the time was that maybe El Ron had run into some “Deep Doo Doo” in Hisself’s “research”…it wasn’t any of my business…he was El Ron El Rey and ole Face here was just some kid off the farm that somehow wound up in the thick of things in the “Salvaging of This Sector of the Galaxy”. Rationalization, equivocation, and disconnect was needed to survive and work “with” and around El Ron for a length of time. Due to the location of my office, I was not far from El Ron’s Digs. It’s quite possible that over half the Mud’s folks didn’t even know the totality of what was going on. The Post I was on was of ultra high trust…if Ida wanted to harm or kill Hisself I coulda done it, easily. I just kept my mouth shut and did my job.

Face:)
 
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afaceinthecrowd

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Facey, your post deserves a lengthy response because it brought to view many things I have been meaning to write. For now, here is a little video that says a bunch -- especially if all a person can afford, before or after scientology, is a 6-pack:

Satisfied Mind

Thanks Bro'...loved the cut...think I'll go get a 6-pack and watch it again:thumbsup:

Lookin' forward to a lenghty response.:yes::drama:

Face:)
 
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