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afaceinthecrowd

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One more thing re: Mayo, that's part of one of my "Reader's Digest" Installments I'm working on, but I want to post this excerpt now:

I think that one of the Driver's behind "taking out Mayo" was that Da Monster and CMO feared that if Mayo were truly to be the head of a "completely autonomous" Tech "Org" he would "crash the GI". If Mayo had had the power he would have put an end to the all the false promo and criminal reging and concentrated on "White" Scn and realistic results.:eyeroll:

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lkwdblds

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Official L's phenomena - Newly Announced!

another fellow I knew who was an attorney went to Flag and did all the L's - the result or EP of doing his L's was that he decided his purpose was to open a dance studio for ballroom dancing - that was his win and he was quite happy about it. - :omg: - all 3 L's and that was the result? Sheesh - I couldn't believe it.

NEW OFFICIAL END PHENOMENA FOR L'S RUNDOWNS! DIRECT FROM FLAG
Completion of one L Rundown - Watches "Dancing with the Stars" on TV
Completion of two L's - Goes out Dancing
Completion of three L's - Open one's own Dancing Studio, called "Studio L"

That explains why I Watch "Dancing With the Stars" but never go dancing and can't conceive of opening a studio.
Lakey
 
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NEW OFFICIAL END PHENOMENA FOR L'S RUNDOWNS! DIRECT FROM FLAG
Completion of one L Rundown - Watches "Dancing with the Stars" on TV
Completion of two L's - Goes out Dancing
Completion of three L's - Open one's own Dancing Studio, called "Studio L"

That explains why I Watch "Dancing With the Stars" but never go dancing and can't conceive of opening a studio.
Lakey

You've just given me a great reason why not to ever do the L's. :coolwink:

Actually, I'm a bit more sanguine than that. Trey Lotz, who I consider to be a great guy as well as a fine auditor, seems to be getting pretty good results in the freezone with his pcs on the L's. So I'm not willing to write them off completely yet. :no:


Mark A. Baker
 

lkwdblds

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Leon's Comments yesterday are still haunting me!

Leon's comments about each person being the biggest and most magnificent being in their own Universe is sitting there in my mind reverberating. The concept that for each being, their own universe is all there is.

You try and think with that concept and it can drive you batty and yet there seems to be truth in the statement. One seems to just intrinsicially know it is true and yet there is an element of doubt sitting there as well.
Lakey
P.S. to Mark Baker - I heard Trey Lotz's favorable comments on the L's on his video and want to ack that. He is a good guy!
 
Leon's comments about each person being the biggest and most magnificent being in their own Universe is sitting there in my mind reverberating. The concept that for each being, their own universe is all there is.

You try and think with that concept and it can drive you batty and yet there seems to be truth in the statement. One seems to just intrinsicially know it is true and yet there is an element of doubt sitting there as well.
Lakey
P.S. to Mark Baker - I heard Trey Lotz's favorable comments on the L's on his video and want to ack that. He is a good guy!

Lakey, maybe not each universe being all there is, but maybe the most important to them. All of our universes overlap and intersect quite a bit! Some of us just dwell in bigger (and more crowded) tents than others. :)
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
One more thing re: Mayo, that's part of one of my "Reader's Digest" Installments I'm working on, but I want to post this excerpt now:

I think that one of the Driver's behind "taking out Mayo" was that Da Monster and CMO feared that if Mayo were truly to be the head of a "completely autonomous" Tech "Org" he would "crash the GI". If Mayo had had the power he would have put an end to the all the false promo and criminal reging and concentrated on "White" Scn and realistic results.:eyeroll:

Face:)

That sounds very plausible. :yes:

I would not be surprised if one reason for getting Mayo out of the way in 1983 was because he would have been opposed to the crazy NOTs 6-month sec checking, which coincidentally got rolling about the same time that Mayo was kicked out. The NOTs 6-month check has been a big money maker for Flag, and people who queried it as out-tech (like Virginia McClaughry and Bill Rhodes in their famous write up) got seriously hammered.
 

lkwdblds

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Taking it a little further....

Lakey, maybe not each universe being all there is, but maybe the most important to them. All of our universes overlap and intersect quite a bit! Some of us just dwell in bigger (and more crowded) tents than others. :)

I am looking at the universe question as if the Physical (MEST) universe is an illusion, a mock up or whatever you want to call it. It is not "real". We come to meet here on a common agreed upon meeting grounds but the whole thing is really just smoke and mirrors. That is totally "real" to me, I am seeing it, I am living it. The Physical universe can be unmocked and a new one mocked up but the person's own universe, that just IS. That is the real goods, it IS, outside of Space and outside of any Time Stream. We each know that there are others similar to us and we surmise that each of them is a universe unto themselves but what is the "REAL GOODs" for all of us is soley our own universe. I believe that is what Leon is alluding to.

Perhaps, two beings can come into coincidence and join universes, i.e. the coexistence of spirit; that I am not sure about, one way or the other. Perhaps a being can spin off from itself other independent beings with their own universe; I am not sure about that either but I believe that is possible.
Lakey
 
I am looking at the universe question as if the Physical (MEST) universe is an illusion, a mock up or whatever you want to call it. It is not "real". We come to meet here on a common agreed upon meeting grounds but the whole thing is really just smoke and mirrors. That is totally "real" to me, I am seeing it, I am living it. The Physical universe can be unmocked and a new one mocked up but the person's own universe, that just IS. That is the real goods, it IS, outside of Space and outside of any Time Stream. We each know that there are others similar to us and we surmise that each of them is a universe unto themselves but what is the "REAL GOODs" for all of us is soley our own universe. I believe that is what Leon is alluding to.

Perhaps, two beings can come into coincidence and join universes, i.e. the coexistence of spirit; that I am not sure about, one way or the other. Perhaps a being can spin off from itself other independent beings with their own universe; I am not sure about that either but I believe that is possible.
Lakey

This is VERY metaphysical, Lakey! :happydance: I can duplicate what you are saying. To me, "space" and "time" are just considerations. :coolwink: Consciousness or awareness is what makes things "real" to us. :)
 

FoTi

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NEW OFFICIAL END PHENOMENA FOR L'S RUNDOWNS! DIRECT FROM FLAG
Completion of one L Rundown - Watches "Dancing with the Stars" on TV
Completion of two L's - Goes out Dancing
Completion of three L's - Open one's own Dancing Studio, called "Studio L"

That explains why I Watch "Dancing With the Stars" but never go dancing and can't conceive of opening a studio.
Lakey

:roflmao:
 

lkwdblds

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Right on Sweet, we are in full accord!

This is VERY metaphysical, Lakey! :happydance: I can duplicate what you are saying. To me, "space" and "time" are just considerations. :coolwink: Consciousness or awareness is what makes things "real" to us. :)

Right on Sweet, we are in full accord!

I have been attracted to this field of study for decades. The funny thing about it is that it appears to be 100% subjective and it is all speculative. Sometimes I feel that I have a parial handle or understanding in this area and then I will go onto some thread run by Vinaire usually or someone else with a lot of expertise and I will find something new which I like a lot and feel that I have pushed my understanding further.

So far so good, but if I keep reading a Vinaire thread past the new awareness I just had, I find a lot of new things I don't understand and begin to get confused again. Often, I will leave the thread and move on to less metaphysical topics. Perhaps, a month or two later, something will draw me back to the Vinaire thread and I am surprised to find that my understanding in this area seems to have stabilized out again at a higher level than I was at the last time. I then pick up another new point on his thread and the cycle repeats itself.

The thing about studying a completely subjective field with a Guru guiding you is that if the Guru is correct about things you make gains in your understanding but if your Guru is wrong about something and you follow him, you are going to end up in a potentially very bad situation. You can be worse off than you were before without knowing it.

Where does one go to increase one's awareness in a 100% subjective field of study? Probably, the answers lie within you but you can not reach them so you have to attempt to reach them on a gradient. The tools to do so seem to be limited but there are several options. Thinking is not one of them and neither is common sense! Of those two, thinking is by far the worse.

Things that do seem to work are a mixture of looking, meditating, studying a religious body of knowledge such as vedic religions, learning from a guru and receiving procesiing or having spiritual drills run on oneself, either being run by a counselor or being run solo.

How deep can one go in understanding existence. If all knowledge is represented by a sphere 100 feet in diameter, I would hazard a guess that early biblical era societies penetrated perhaps 1 foot into the sphere. Modern man today, on average may have 7 or 8 feet penetration. Some great thinker, perhaps an Einstein may have penetrated 10 -12 feet. Someone such as Vin or Roger may be able to look to deeper than that.

HOW DEEP IS MANKIND CAPABLE OF PENETRATING? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF ONE COULD GRASP THE WHOLE 100' SPHERE?

It would seem as if we are co creaters of the 100' diameter sphere since we had to agree to it in order for it to exist for us. Anything co created by a being should be able to be fully grasped by that being but things are booby trapped to keep us from grasping the totality of the game we are playing. Since the beginning of recorded history mankind has made continous progress. There is even a concept present that we are better off not knowing this type of knowledge and our time would be better spent just playing the game and not trying to figure out how the game is set up. Those with a thirst for knowledge do not fall prey to this concept and on their shoulders, mankind progresses.

The 6,000 years or so of recorded history seems like a long time, but actually that may be very short for a cycle which consists of losing knowledge as a society and then working societally to fully recover that knowledge.
Lakey
 
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Leon

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Good post, Lakey. :thumbsup:

I agree that thinking is for the most part not the way to do it, though your final answer must also be logical to an analytical mind. I'm referring here to the way Dennis Stephens sorted out the Goals material - it had to be done analytically since it was not in the bank - only the wrong answers were in the bank, not the right ones.

I tend to do my session work at 2.00a.m. and I just locate an area of interest and pervade it as fully as can be and it opens up and I get all sorts of information. Then I cogitate and inspect that info to see if it makes sense to me ans only then do I tentatively incorporate it into my view of things.
 

Vinaire

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The Makeup of Universe

This is my latest view of the universe:

The Philosophical Beginning of Universe

To understand it fully it may be necessary to view other posts under the category "philosophy." To get to them simply click on "Philosophy" under CATEGORIES in the left column.

It is interesting that my view keeps on changing.

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lkwdblds

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Yep, you make a lot of sense

Good post, Lakey. :thumbsup:

I agree that thinking is for the most part not the way to do it, though your final answer must also be logical to an analytical mind. I'm referring here to the way Dennis Stephens sorted out the Goals material - it had to be done analytically since it was not in the bank - only the wrong answers were in the bank, not the right ones.

I tend to do my session work at 2.00a.m. and I just locate an area of interest and pervade it as fully as can be and it opens up and I get all sorts of information. Then I cogitate and inspect that info to see if it makes sense to me ans only then do I tentatively incorporate it into my view of things.

You make a good point Leon. To me, thinking tends to create complexity rather than to simplify things. Complex things are usually ungainly and awkward. See my signaiture line below! That being said, our final answers must also be logical to an analyical mind.

I think that by looking and pervading you receive answers which tend to be simple and not complex but still will be logical to the analytical mind. Probably the reason this is true is that the things which are looked at and pervaded are logical themselves and in fact are created by intelligent design.

This could well serve as a proof of intelligent design. If the universe was created through random permutations along with "survival of the fittest" then if one attempted to pervade things, one would find enormous complexities rather than the simplicities which are actually found.

I'll try and do some pervading as you are doing and see what happens.
Lakey
 
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