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lkwdblds

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Re: An LRH look alike, an actor from Finland.

A friend watched a movie and notice an LRH look alike, he even has red hair and blue eyes.

Check it out and see if you think there is a resemblance/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0489858/?ref_=tt_cl_i9

Here is a link about the movie, it is a Danish movie made in 2006.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457655/

I think there is a good resemblance. Put a naval uniform on him with a commodore's had and let him start walking the sidewalk outside Big Blue and I'll bet that a lot of S.O. members would freak out.

Lakey

PS - link to more photos: Pictures of Rolf Laasgard:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rol...%2Fwww.imdb.com%2Fname%2Fnm0489858%2F;214;317
 
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i've always believed gert frobe was chosen to play goldfinger because of his resemblance to elron and in fact i believe the flick to have a subtheme of a sendup of the man...

"golden words he will pour in you ear
pretty girl don't believe what you hear..."
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Johnny the The Magic Thetan is in the process dying

I just received an email from a good friend of Johnny the Magic Thetan, John Rafenello. Johnny has been battling cancer for some time. I knew he had been dealing with prostate cancer and then recently heard that he also had colon cancer.

The doctor's pronounced that he was now in late stage cancer. Johnny decided to enter a Hospice to prepare for end of life. While there just a short time, he decided to pull his IV and his feeding tube so as to hasten his body death. He then left the hospice facility and moved to a friend's house to spend his last days. About one or two days ago, he removed his feeding and drinking tubes. He told his care givers that he is anxious to go to his next level of life and feels it best to speed up the process.

For anyone who is interested, a phone number was given where he will take calls. PM me if you want that phone number. From the sound of it, he only has a matter of days to live.

Johnny is sure a talented, brilliant and likable guy and he has many friends. I wish him the very best as he leaves his current body and moves on. It was really a pleasure to have known him these last 4 years.
Lakey
 
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lkwdblds

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I saw a great movie called "Whip Lash". It had to do with Jazz music and it showed how a band leader, similar to a basketball coach can get extremely tough with his group of athletes or musicians in order to bring them to the pinnacle of excellence. It is quite an inspirational movie and some of the jazz numbers featured in the movie are outstanding.
I rate the movie an A+ or 5 stars.
Lakey
 
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lkwdblds

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

On that recent post from Mama about Charlie Rush battling recurring cancer, Mama posted a recent photo of Charlie which I could not reproduce on ESMB. Mama has been so kind as to supply me with a link to a recent picture of Charlie, shown with an attractive woman who I don't know. Here is the link: http://www.forum.exscn.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8601&d=1415469549[/url]

Well, I got that link in a PM from Mama and it worked fine but when I post it here on ESMB, it doesn't work.

Lakey
 
Re: LRH smashed his name into history, well sort of.

Who said that postulates don't work? L Ron Hubbard had a postulate to smash his name into history.

This morning I was working the crossword puzzle in the Orange County Register. Clue #47 across said: "Hubbard of sci-fi (2 wds)" and left 4 spaces to fill in the name. I put in "LRon" and that turned out to be correct.

Its funny with these crossword puzzle clues, once they come into use, they usually last for decades. One such clue is a 4 letter word for a dog who played in the movies. the answer is "ASTA" who is the dog owned by Nick and Nora in the movie series "The Thin Man". This puzzle clue appears all the time but unless you are old or a crossword fan, no one would know the answer. I am both old and a crossword fan. The Thin Man movie genre is from the late 1930's and early 1940's.

Kids on my block started going to the movies on Saturday from about 1947 to 1950. I saw the "Thin Man" play there but it was already pretty old. I'll Google The Thin Man and see what they say. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Man_(film)

For nostalgia buffs, prices movie tickets in the late 40's were generally 50 cents for adults and 25 cents for kids. However, the movie we went to, called the Variety was a budget type theater and the rate was only 25 cents for adults and 9 cents for kids. THAT'S RIGHT, 9 CENTS FOR A CHILD TO ATTEND THE MOVIES!! Even with a conversion factor of 10 or 11 to one for inflation, that would still be only $1 for kids and about $2.50 for adults in today's money. Not only that but for that tiny bit on money, we got to see previews of common attractions, 2 feature films, 5 cartons, a newsreel and a Serial!! The neighborhood parents loved it. They would drive about 6 kids to the movies on Saturday afternoon and dump us there for about 5 hours so they could have their private time. The movie theater, the "Variety" on West Adams Blvd. was about 1 mile from our house so we could walk home if we had to, but one of the parents always showed up to drive us home.

The first Thin Man movie came out way back in 1934. It starred William Powell and Myrna Loy as Nick and Nora Charles and of course their dog Asta was featured in the movie. The film was so successful that it spawned 6 sequels with the same stars. The last sequel came out in 1947. What a successful franchise, seven films over a 13 year period and then immortalized in crossword puzzles. Besides Asta, the dog, there are sometimes crossword puzzle clues asking for a star of the "The Thin Man". They leave 4 letters but the two answers Nick or Nora both contain 4 letters one doesn't know which one is the correct answer until one solves some more neighboring clues.

In closing, I might add that its funny how postulates can work, Hubbard wanted to SMASH his way into History. In a way, he did that by becoming a crossword puzzle clue. We have The Thin Man as a puzzle clue 80 years after the movie was made, and Hubbard will probably be a clue for many decades to come. I don't think that being a puzzle clue was what LRH had in mind but in a sense, he has become a part of history by being a crossword puzzle clue:coolwink:
Lakey

PS, I forgot to mention food prices. Small candy bars were 6 cents while popcorn and large candy bars were 12 cents, about 75 cents and $1.25 resoectively in today's money. They sold an "all day sucker" for 12 cents. It would last hours if one just sucked on it and did not bite into it. As to drinks, I don't remember that because my parents did not allow my brother or I to drink soft drinks. Probably a small coke was 6 cents and a large coke was 12 cents. Just imagine popcorn then and popcorn now, what a difference!

yeah...

hubbard's intention to smash his name into history dates back to the thirties

and i've often wondered if perhaps...

this was why he may have been chosen by some higher power to initiate an advance in human knowledge; that he was the draft animal of a transcended master...
 

lkwdblds

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Re: LRH smashed his name into history, well sort of.

yeah...

hubbard's intention to smash his name into history dates back to the thirties

and i've often wondered if perhaps...

this was why he may have been chosen by some higher power to initiate an advance in human knowledge; that he was the draft animal of a transcended master...

Interesting conjecture. Have you read any of LRH's Ole Doc Methuselah? It is sci-fi and features the lead character, Ole Doc Methuselah. Doc is one of 76 Soldiers of Light stationed who reside in our Galaxy. He is the one soldier of light assigned to this Earth sector of our Milky Way Galaxy. In this series of books, there is an inter galactic counsel who governs our galaxy. I read quite a few of those books after I left the S.O. in the 70's, As I recall, their is no President or head man of the intergalactic counsel, rather it is ruled by a committee.

Ruling by committee seems to be a method of running things which LRH liked. He talks about the possibility of our Universe being created by a sort of Universal Corporation, with a Board of Directors. I've heard these type of lectures on 2 or 3 of LRH's audio tapes. He cites one to one comparisons of how a Corporation is set up and how the Physical Universe is set up. The key thing is how the public gets involved. In a corporation, individuals by shares and in that manner, they have a stake in the Corporation. For the Physical Universe, individuals are recruited to join up by the founders of the corporation. We don't literally buy shares but figuratively, when we agree to the terms of the Physical Universe that constitutes buying into it. Buying in allegedly makes us the equal of the initial Officers and Board of Directors but in the real world, I tend to believe that those beings, without admitting it, always consider that they are higher in rank than we rank and file people who bought into this Universe.

Those 76 Soldiers of Light were basically the top beings in their given districts. You could liken them a bit to James Bond types of figures, big beings who can get things done. Knowing LRH's outlook on life, I don't see him submitting to or even acknowledging any power higher than himself. For example, in his existence as LRH, he refused to take second billing to any other person except when he served in the Navy. He was a low level officer, and so of course he had seniors. But then, look at his Naval record. He resented being ordered around by any other officer. When he screwed up and fired training rounds of ammo into Mexican territory and caused damages to Mexico, he was upbraided by his seniors and they recommended that he was no longer fit to be the top officer of a ship. Hew was then transferred into the intelligence gathering part of the Navy and then quickly became inactive due to illness.

Look at his beliefs as regards a diety. His philosophy does not espouse a God. He seemed to resent the big splash which Jesus made on Earth. He did have kind words for Buddha, but then, since he claimed to be a promised reincarnation of Buddha, named Metayah..his admiration of Buddha was more like self admiration.

MY opinion is that LRH did not consider that there was any power in this universe which was greater than himself. Humility and being humble about who he was were not part of his universe.
Lakey
 
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Re: LRH smashed his name into history, well sort of.

Interesting conjecture. Have you read any of LRH's Ole Doc Methuselah. It is sci-fi and features the lead character, Ole Doc Methuselah. Doc is one of 76 Soldiers of Light stationed in this sector of our Milky Way Galaxy. In this series of books, there is an inter galactic counsel who governs our galaxy. I read quite a few of those books after I left the S.O. in the 70's, As I recall, their is no President or head man of the intergalactic counsel, rather it is ruled by a committee.

Those 76 Soldiers of Light were basically the top beings in their given district. You could liken them a bit to a James Bond type of figure, big beings who could get things done. Knowing LRH's outlook on life, I don't see him submitting to or even acknowledging any power higher than himself. For example, in his existence as LRH, he refused to take second billing to any other person with one exception. The one exception was his career in the Navy. He was an officer, but a low level officer, and so of course he had seniors. But then, look at his Naval record. He resented being ordered around by any other officer. When he screwed up and fired training rounds into Mexican territory and caused damages to Mexico, he was upbraided by his seniors and they recommended that he was no longer fit to be the top officer of a ship. Hew was then transferred into the intelligence gathering part of the Navy.

Look at his beliefs as regards a diety. His philosophy did not espouse a God. He seemed to resent the big splash which Jesus made on Earth. He did have kind words for Buddha, but then, since he claimed to be a promised reincarnation of Buddha, that admiration of Buddha was more like self admiration.

MY opinion is that LRH did not consider that there was any power in this universe which was greater than himself. Humility and being humble about who he was were not part of his universe.
Lakey

however, in his parting shot, ME, he uses a familiar literary device to name jesus of nazareth as god
 

strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
Re: LRH smashed his name into history, well sort of.

this was why he may have been chosen by some higher power to initiate an advance in human knowledge; that he was the draft animal of a transcended master...
There was a phrase used by the tennis player John Mcenroe back in 1979 for which he will always be remembered. For some reason it just sprang into my mind...
 
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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

http://www.forum.exscn.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8601&d=1415469549[/url]

Well, I got that link in a PM from Mama and it worked fine but when I post it here on ESMB, it doesn't work.

That's because you left off the at the start of the link. Here, a...attachment.php?attachmentid=8601&d=1415469549
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Re: LRH smashed his name into history, well sort of.

however, in his parting shot, ME, he uses a familiar literary device to name jesus of nazareth as god

Where have you been CB? It is common knowledge on ex Scientology sites all over the internet that on the last version of OT 8 which has been issued, there is an audio tape where Hubbard states that Christ never existed and that the Jesus story was an implant from 600 B.C., the material from which the religion of Christianity was formed. Here is a link to the video containing that audio of Hubbard's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjsn2soN6w

While we're at it, I found a Wikipedia article on Ole Doc Methuselah and would like to supply a link to that article as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_Doc_Methuselah

Lakey
 
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Re: LRH smashed his name into history, well sort of.

Where have you been CB? It is common knowledge on ex Scientology sites all over the internet that on the last version of OT 8 which has been issued, there is an audio tape where Hubbard states that Christ never existed and that the Jesus story was an implant from 600 B.C., the material from which the religion of Christianity was formed. Here is a link to the video containing that audio of Hubbard's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjsn2soN6w

While we're at it, I found a Wikipedia article on Ole Doc Methuselah and would like to supply a link to that article as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_Doc_Methuselah

Lakey

yes indeedy, i'm well aware of that report and recently found it reported on this board that hubs denies the christ in the CLVIII materials. also i long ago noted in the thirties short story "sleepy mcgee" he used a very subtle literary device to deny christ. although i am for the most part a worthless clod i do have moments when i can be pretty sharp lakey. in sleepy mcgee they're building a road and are using explosives to carve out a piece of a ledge and the whole mountain proves to be hollow and collapses. the next paragraph begins by noting the natives on the island where they're doing the project are all named "jesus" pronounced "'zeus". as anyone who held on to the captain miudnight secret decoder ring their high school english teacher gave them should know the author is using juxtaposition to say he finds the whole mountain of christianity to be empty inside

but...

all along hubbard remained engaged with christian thought usually denying it or distancing his own thought from it. yet he remains engaged with it. and we who are well steeped in zen are aware of how denials are affirmation and affirmations deny...

also...

examine SOS

after the publication of dmsmh hubbard engaged in some very lively 2WC with many substantial figures and even though you are yiddishe i'm sure recall how america was a far more christian land back then. and the results of this dialogue are very evident in SOS; god or supreme being gains more than half a dozen mentions, scripture is effectively enthroned and for the most part the book conforms well with the judeochristian template

and...

in his parting shot ME, where he uses three alter egos; gris, heller and penwell who plainly conform to freud's id, superego and ego he writes in the first person as gris to deliver his confession and uses a familiar literary device to name the nazarene as god
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Re: Church of Scientology Court Cases

I have been following various court cases which COS is involved with on Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker. I then compared how these cases are being handled in the courts with how David Miscavage came to power and took over COS un 1986 after LRH's passing.

Say what you will about DM, he has "cajones" when it comes to getting his will enforced on others. Basically, he doesn't play by the rules, i.e the Marques of of Queensberry's gentlemanly rules for the sport of boxing in old England. Here is a article on those rules;

Marquess of Queensberry Rules
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A caricature of John Douglas, Marquess of Queensberry, the caption reads "A good light weight"
The Marquess of Queensberry rules is a code of generally accepted rules in the sport of boxing. They were named so because John Douglas, 9th Marquess of Queensberry publicly endorsed the code,[1] although they were written by a sportsman named John Graham Chambers. The code of rules on which modern boxing is based, the Queensberry rules were the first to mention gloves in boxing.[2] The Queensberry rules are intended for use in both professional and amateur boxing matches, thus separating it from the less popular American Fair Play Rules, which w
ere strictly intended for amateur matches. In popular culture the term is sometimes used to refer to a sense of sportsmanship and fair play.


Basically, DM and LRH, for that matter, did not play by sportsman's rules, always giving one's opponents a fair chance to win. Rather, DM and also LRH played by cut throat rules, stopping at nothing to get their will to prevail in any disagreement or test of wills. As LRH says in KSW#1, "Scientology is a deadly serious activity." DM, if anything, plays things even more cut throat than LRH ever did. DM does not adhere one iota to the rules and etiquette of societies. He attempts to establish his own rules!!

Fast forward up to present time and you see COS in a lot of trouble with out ethics at its Narconon resulting in deaths occurring at many of the Narconon facilities. There are dozens of law suits against Narconon plus the Garcia's lawsuits and the Rathbun lawsuit and more for COS to deal with.

On the surface, playing by the accepted rules of law would put COS in a lot of trouble. In response, COS bends the rules, has judges dismissed, springs traps on plaintiffs. In fact they will go to any ends and any costs to delay cases from coming to trial, to prevent DM from having to testify or even be deposed, etc. It's pretty obvious that their legal strategy is being masterminded, not by their high priced lawyers, earning up to $1,000 an hour, but rather, when the going gets tough, these odd legal manuevers which suddenly appear out of nowhere are the product of some fantastic scheme which DM dreamed up to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. High priced lawyers still think inside the box, DM thinks outside the standard legal box. He pushes hard to make his own reality prevail over all accepted wisdom.

I personally don't think much of DM but you have to give him credit for creatively attempting to force his own reality on his lawyers, the judges and the court system. It takes a lot of "balls" to do that. Those tactics worked to get him to be Chairman of the Board, they worked against the IRS and he is trying to make them work in the US legal system. I am reminded of the old saying, "give the devil his due,"
Lakey
 
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lkwdblds

Crusader
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

"hunh?"

i dunno, as a jew it might be more of a challenge to grasp my last post but try a second reading...

I was born into a Jewish family but I'm not a practicing Jew. I left the religion in 1961 as I found my particular synagogue too materialistic for my tastes. My parents were just middle class people, while the Temple, in prestigious Tustin, CA seemed to be focused more on who had the biggest diamond ring, the most expensive mink coat or the most lavish Cadillac. Our Rabbi fawned all over the wealthier members and looked at middle class parishioners in an insulting manner. He more or less looked through us, as though we didn't even exist.

I was going to Cal State Fullerton at age 22 and one day I happened to see the rabbi out at the vending machines. He was in a line at a vending machine to get coffee and I was right behind him. After he purchased his coffee he turned around our eyes met. I smiled and extended my hand for a hand shake, he did shake with me and then I bought my coffee and came over to his table and sat down saying, "Rabbi, I didn't know that you were taking courses here. He answered, "I'm not taking courses here, the head of the University called me and wants me to teach a course here on comparative religion. As he finished his sentence, he stood up, turned his back on me and started walking away, saying, "As a matter of fact, I'm on my way to his office right now."

I already didn't like the Temple, except for the duplicate bridge night which they had. My parents both played bridge and they dragged me along one night and I loved it and started trying to improve my game. This wasn't the first time the rabbi had snubbed me, there were 2 earlier snubs. if my parents had been very wealthy, you can be assured that he would have made time to speak to me. Anyway, the 3rd snub turned me off so much that I left the temple for good, except for continuing with the weekly bridge game.

My true religious leanings are more along the lines of Buddhism, a subject which I sought out in 1967 at a UCLA Evening Extension Class. Also, just a couple years ago, I discovered the Reverend Joel Osteen on TV. I'm certainly not into 'born again' Christianity but Osteen has a tremendous communication ability such that he can take Scripture and word it so that it conveys universal themes which make sense to Christians, Jews. probably Buddhists and Hindus as well and maybe even atheists.

Check out this sample video by Reverend Joel! This hombre has a real gift of being able to communicate. He can make biblical verse apply to all manner of people. In some strange way, it seems as if everything he says is the truth, the gospel truth! If you dissect his speech, you really can't find anything which is a lie or is over exaggerated. Osteen doesn't demand that people have blind faith, rather, he uses persuasion and logic to reach us, using modern day language and situations. Check out his video and see what I'm talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcByLln3cl0

Lakey
 
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lkwdblds

Crusader
Jim Dincalci - Amazing Video about LRH

Tony Ortega's blog featured an amazing video interview of Jim Dincalci who lived with LRH in New York City in 1972 and 1973 when the yacht Apollo was undergoing a refit in dry dock in Lisbon, Portugal. Dincalci was privy to many secretes of Hubbard's life and reveals them in the fascinating interview.

Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pzNgVvV_Zc

Lakey
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Re: Johnny Raffenello RIP

Johnny Rafaello, aka Johnny the Magic Thetan passed away quietly in his sleep just after 1:00 PM today.
Lakey
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

damn!

i have got to get some earbuds!

i might be interested in what pastor joel has to say but visually he looks pretty gruesome

but...

that's what works and you can't blame someone for doing what works

i go long on gautama too lakey. and zoroaster, gurjoof and alfred e neuman. i'd probaly get off on some krishnamurti if i got into him but i haven't

but...

maimonides rocks!!!

and i like to sling some tall mud myself now and then...

your tale of temple is of course the sort of thing the antisemites feed on; that judaism is all about money. but adonai bless you lakey for being of a better nature

and of course the historic horrors of organized christianity...

fusing church and state in 300 AD sent it all off to hell and gone. god bless america!!! separation of church and state! we still have some casualty lists from religious conflicts in this country but they are miniscule in comparison to the vast slaughters of the old world. still one of the names on these short lists is my son. kidnapped and killed by a muthuhfukkah who hates scientology. because he hates scientology...

where have all the flowers gone?
long time pa-assing...
where have all the flowers gone?
long time ago..
 

purple haze

Patron with Honors
Re: Church of Scientology Court Cases

Anyone going to the hearing tomorrow in Tampa? Aloha!


I have been following various court cases which COS is involved with on Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker. I then compared how these cases are being handled in the courts with how David Miscavage came to power and took over COS un 1986 after LRH's passing.

Say what you will about DM, he has "cajones" when it comes to getting his will enforced on others. Basically, he doesn't play by the rules, i.e the Marques of of Queensberry's gentlemanly rules for the sport of boxing in old England. Here is a article on those rules;

Marquess of Queensberry Rules
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A caricature of John Douglas, Marquess of Queensberry, the caption reads "A good light weight"
The Marquess of Queensberry rules is a code of generally accepted rules in the sport of boxing. They were named so because John Douglas, 9th Marquess of Queensberry publicly endorsed the code,[1] although they were written by a sportsman named John Graham Chambers. The code of rules on which modern boxing is based, the Queensberry rules were the first to mention gloves in boxing.[2] The Queensberry rules are intended for use in both professional and amateur boxing matches, thus separating it from the less popular American Fair Play Rules, which w
ere strictly intended for amateur matches. In popular culture the term is sometimes used to refer to a sense of sportsmanship and fair play.


Basically, DM and LRH, for that matter, did not play by sportsman's rules, always giving one's opponents a fair chance to win. Rather, DM and also LRH played by cut throat rules, stopping at nothing to get their will to prevail in any disagreement or test of wills. As LRH says in KSW#1, "Scientology is a deadly serious activity." DM, if anything, plays things even more cut throat than LRH ever did. DM does not adhere one iota to the rules and etiquette of societies. He attempts to establish his own rules!!

Fast forward up to present time and you see COS in a lot of trouble with out ethics at its Narconon resulting in deaths occurring at many of the Narconon facilities. There are dozens of law suits against Narconon plus the Garcia's lawsuits and the Rathbun lawsuit and more for COS to deal with.

On the surface, playing by the accepted rules of law would put COS in a lot of trouble. In response, COS bends the rules, has judges dismissed, springs traps on plaintiffs. In fact they will go to any ends and any costs to delay cases from coming to trial, to prevent DM from having to testify or even be deposed, etc. It's pretty obvious that their legal strategy is being masterminded, not by their high priced lawyers, earning up to $1,000 an hour, but rather, when the going gets tough, these odd legal manuevers which suddenly appear out of nowhere are the product of some fantastic scheme which DM dreamed up to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. High priced lawyers still think inside the box, DM thinks outside the standard legal box. He pushes hard to make his own reality prevail over all accepted wisdom.

I personally don't think much of DM but you have to give him credit for creatively attempting to force his own reality on his lawyers, the judges and the court system. It takes a lot of "balls" to do that. Those tactics worked to get him to be Chairman of the Board, they worked against the IRS and he is trying to make them work in the US legal system. I am reminded of the old saying, "give the devil his due,"
Lakey
 
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