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lkwdblds

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Lakey

Does there have to be a specific flow? I see your point...but also I think that he or she is probably just as usual having fun [what is fun for giz, whoever giz is, may not be fun for you] ....true sometimes trying to barb....but we all wake up on the wrong side of the bed every few minutes and wonder 'where am I'.

:flowers:

In fact I just woke up on a strange planet and hope it's not some weird Markabian (sp?) province!

Markhab, OMG Maria, you want to get away from there! I think that Captain Bill Robertson is up there trying to track down Xenu. Also, Elron Elray, the new reincarnation of LRH is out there as well and the word is out that he is upset with you for putting down his tech on the Apollo thread on ESMB. Immediately report back to your home in the USA!

You know, Maria, for you, I would apologize to "Giz" and forget being the butt of his hypocracy but I already tried that and he isn't interested. He doesn't like me and wants me out of here. That's his M.O. He likes the board, a lot and part of the reason is that you are here. CO2 is already out and I'm thinking about leaving and he can be an entertaining poster so maybe he wants to take control over the thread and run it with you as his sidekick. I really don't know if all that is true and am just speculating. I don't even have any objections to that.

What I do object to is dishonesty and hypocracy. A guy is pretending to be a happy go lucky person who loves everybody and just wants to have fun. This may be partially true but it is not fully true. He wants me out, so his words that he loves everyone are phony. He is just not being honest. That is what I object to, I don't want to be the butt of that dishonesty. If he was honest and just came out and said that he didn't like me then I would be okay with that. He is not capable of that much honesty, IMO, so I am going to stand up for myself. That's it in a nutshell. That is my whole beef.
Lakey
 

Gizmo

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Oh Dear God................

Can? Conditions? Stats? All so barfable ! And all talked about so old windbaggy !

We need more love.... more joy..... more hugs.... more smiles....more humor... more laughs..... more of life !

Love & Blessings to each & every person !


Can we have a dance party soon ?

FIFY

Unfortunately, the comments stated above by this party are not honest and they are hypocritical. A couple of days back he wrote a post citing Faceinthecrowd as an example of a knowledgeable poster and a poster who makes consistently high quality posts.

I started my post by saying that I couldn't agree with him more!! I told him that I was in full agreement with every line of his post.

His response was that after reading the first two words of my post, he quit reading. He said that he did not care one hoot whether I agreed or disagreed with him. He told me to save some keystrokes and never reply to him again because he will no longer be reading any of my posts. To acomodate this gentleman, I have put him and two others on ignore. The ignore button is working fine, I don't see any of the writings of these 3 people unless someone quotes them. Someone quoted him so I got to see what he's writing

I just find his remarks above so extremely untruthful and hypocritical that I had to reply

[ That some people do not distinguish between the dislike of a POST & the dislike of a PERSON - how is that MY problem ?]

To say, " We need more love, more more joy.....more hugs.....more humor......more laughs,,,,,,more life" and to also say "Love and blessings to each and every person" is so hypocritical and phony that I just can't sit by and allow this type of dishonesty and chicanery to take place on a thread where I am the OP. He spends a lot of his time on this thread on a daily basis and I've been paying him compliments of late to try and build up communications with him. In particular, I complimented him for a fine post which he made a couple of days ago and his response was to trash me and stop reading my post after the first two words and then tell me to save some keystrokes and to stop commenting on his posts because he has no interest in reading anything I have to say.
[ I did say VERBOSE replies that RAMBLE I find too TEDOIUS to bother reading }]

After doing this, he has the audacity to come on this thread and pretend to be a cheerful and happy go lucky person. He derides the very things which he himself does to others while posing as a man of peace, love and good will.
[ I'm not sure where this fellow feels he can LOCK another person into ANY PLACE. I have posted often I feel it is acceptable to change ones mind - un anybody here ever get a divorce?]

Excuse me for messing with the flow* of the thread right now, which is quite upbeat and positive. I hate to disturb this state of affairs but I simply don't want this person to be able to be so extremely two faced and phony on a thread where I am the OP without at least making some comments about what he is doing.
[ I don't believe you are capable of changing my flow*, period. You are the OP { Yes! YOU made the VERY FIRST POST on this thread !} & - like any other poster on the forum - can post within the guide lines of the forum. We have a different opinion of your supervisory capacity on a thread]
Lakey[/QUOTE]

Somebody will have to quote what I post to this person as they have me on ignore - LOL !
So, I'm replying to post about my post by someone who ignores my posts ! LOL !

*flow :
Anyway, let me help with "flow" - this is so elementary.

My "flow" is something I create & I control, period. Another or others can FEEL/BELIEVE/THINK they have some control over what I originate/create.

All I can say to that is, please, life doesn't work that way.

If I like someone that is a FLOW from me to them. They can accept / reject that flow or hate me.

So, yes I can offer love or like of a person that doesn't care for me OR in the past I haven't cared for, loved, blessed, been kind to.

I believe all people can CHANGE. I get some people don't believe they - or others - CAN change. OK - just not what I believe.
None of what they do has diddle de squat with MY flow.

Now somebody can feel because they have some upset with me that I must have an upset with them - & that is not true.

Perhaps some have difficulty in grasping that what they say/think/feel about me that I do not give a rip about on a chat board or in real life _ I do not do things to suit other people or conform to their beliefs / ought to's / should & etc things. What I do is what suits me. Does that cause some people to not like me ? YES & I just don't care.




As for my "pretending" to be happy go lucky ? I am

As for my pretending to whatever else it was ? I am

I am also not pretending to be in love - I AM in LOVE !

So, yes, I can say to the original poster of this thread " I love you" & " I send you blessing" & " I wish you well in your life"..... and mean it.
Does that person have to accept it ? No.
Does it mean I have to live by that persons rules or like everything that person says? No.

I do not like my long winded posts. I freely admit I do not read long winded posts by anyone ( Before anyone asks : I've skipped some of Maria's posts & also not responded to her posts - and I do love her ! )

The board rules I try to follow but other posters rules I do ignore.

So, hey, ALL of you :

I do Love you, I do send you my Best Wishes & Blessings
... and that some one makes the choice to not accept that does not mean that it is I who am pretending.
 

Terril park

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

LOL, Lakey, you tone-deaf little idiot! 432 Hz IS bullshit! Was, is, and will be forever. Bullshit! Anyone who falls for that crap, is at least as tone-deaf as you are. Oh, and about your deluded opinion: I don't care about fucking bullshit!

Want me to play you 5 different songs at 5 different center-frequencies? Because even with the 2 1/2 fingers I have currently left, I could do that. And I could I could fool you. Because you are a fool. Because if you weren't, you wouldn't waste your own or anybody's time with fucked-up theories you yourself don't even understand the basics of.

Really, man, play me any tone within the range of 50 Hz and 15 kHz and I can identify that tone within seconds. Then explain me how that specific tone (whichever frequency it is) does or doesn't relate to 432 Hz.

Oh, and about that Pachelbel canon @432 Hz: You may be stupid enough to feel "especially enlightened" by that, but to me it's just another good piece of music, well performed. I have thousands of such pieces in my collection.

Really, man, if you were right here with me, I'm certain I could play you a melody that totally touches your heart, on an instrument tuned to A=450 Hz. Because frequencies don't matter, as long as every musician is approximately in tune.

A while ago, someone posted a hearing test on Youtube. A nice test, different melodies played @ different center frequencies betw een 430 and 450 Hz. A beautiful test, which AFAIK every honest person failed, which is understandable, because a meager 8 Hz difference is almost undetectable for most people.

So, Lakey, if you like a certain version of a certain song, by all means enjoy it! But please, please, please, a very pretty pretty please with an extra sweet cherry on top, please don't bother the world with this A=432 Hz bullshit. Because that's what it is. Complete and utter bullshit. So please drop that shit and attempt to become a sane member of the human race for a change.

Oh, and why you're at it: You might also want to re-investigate your opinion about that disgusting, manipuative, fanatic Farrakhan demagogue.

'nuff said.

Just curious. Was the 440, and 342 by different performers?
 

SPsince83

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I am a lucky one who DOES NOT REMEMBER 95% of any of the tech.

So I have to view all life with fresh eyes.

It was 35+ years ago.

I couldn't repeat what M4 w/c is. I don't remember. YAY.

When I was a little girl in school, each day we were given new words to learn. We would look them up and in our homework give an definition.

But that was it. You see, context changes the meaning of words. Words are not what they are, they are AFFECTED by what is around them.

So no pure definitions are possible.

A pragmatic definition for the pragmatically minded (BORING) of course is always there....SIGH.

What matters is the context, not the word as if it was on an altar for all time.

Words have millions of meanings, each one. Archaic ones, English ones, American ones, colloquialisms, etc. The key is context. From there a word can be surmised as to meaning and intention. A sigh, a tone of voice, affects the whole meaning! To define words in absolute ways for all time DEVOID of feeling and other context is just an emotional insecurity where the person needs to be assured that a=a so they won't have a breakdown when reality does not fit their little fantasy.

MU tech = emotionally insecure and NOT a creative being = not cause ever.

I HATE that I remember all this shit. I envy you your peace of mind from it. The only way I have of dealing with it myself is to spin it into the absurd.

I never looked at word clearing like that. I always went for the understanding of the general concept of the word and absolutely loved digging into etymologies. Consequently, I have a pretty fluid english vocabulary. While I don't speak more than a smattering of other languages, I can pretty much get the gist of most Indo-European languages because of all the analogues. That's a bit of an overstatement, but I'll stay with it.

Odd that I let Elwrong s atrocious English seduce me. I spoke better than he did the day I walked into the mission.
 

Maria Cuervo

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I HATE that I remember all this shit. I envy you your peace of mind from it. The only way I have of dealing with it myself is to spin it into the absurd.

I never looked at word clearing like that. I always went for the understanding of the general concept of the word and absolutely loved digging into etymologies. Consequently, I have a pretty fluid english vocabulary. While I don't speak more than a smattering of other languages, I can pretty much get the gist of most Indo-European languages because of all the analogues. That's a bit of an overstatement, but I'll stay with it.

Odd that I let Elwrong s atrocious English seduce me. I spoke better than he did the day I walked into the mission.

Me too as to spoken English.

I am always amazed though at those who have such a great grasp of language....much more beautiful than mine.
They have an elegance for words, their arrangement, their lightness....
 

Gizmo

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

"Giz" and... He doesn't like me and wants me out of here. . ..maybe he wants to take control over the thread and run it with you as his sidekick. I don't even have any objections to that.

.... He wants me out, ...... He is just not being honest. That's it in a nutshell. That is my whole beef.
Lakey

Chat boards being chat boards one can say what they please.

Just note dear Lakey has posted he wants me out of this thread. Yet he claims it is me that wants him gone ?

Lakey says I want "control" over this thread & I ask who acts like they have some control of this thread ?

Maria is a fellow poster that I happen to like a lot & I suspect that neither one of us will post here all that much longer - she'll have to speak for herself

As I've said before, to me, not agreeing with what a person posts does not mean I do not like them as a person.
To me, words people say & the people that say those words are different.

If the above post were true, uh, why would it have been posted ?

He may not have passed that freshman class in Reverse Psychology 101 ?

Love you all !
 

SPsince83

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

White Album? From the sublime (Julia) to the ridiculous (Bungalow Bill). Lennon strung-out on heroin.

Let It Be? Fucked up by Phil Spector by all accounts. Fractious Beatles. Harrison left and came back.

My favourite Beatles album was and still is Abbey Road, but I was head-over-heels in love with an Australian beauty at the time it came out, so the association is there.



Lucky old you, I'm drug and alchohol free these days...

The Beatles went sublime to ridiculous on just about every album from Rubber Soul on. Octopus' Garden is as goofy as Bungalow Bill. And yes, Spector was always a mixed bag when he was out of his element, but Across the Universe is enough, don't you think? Jai guru deva om.
 

SPsince83

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Me too as to spoken English.

I am always amazed though at those who have such a great grasp of language....much more beautiful than mine.
They have an elegance for words, their arrangement, their lightness....

Your English can be quite graceful. You mentioned autism above, and I can see it, I think, in retrospect in your writing sometimes and the jokes you don't get even though you have a good sense of humor. You would have to be on the light Asperger's end of the spectrum but still have a bit of a disconnect, no?
 

Terril park

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

I am a lucky one who DOES NOT REMEMBER 95% of any of the tech.

So I have to view all life with fresh eyes.

It was 35+ years ago.

I couldn't repeat what M4 w/c is. I don't remember. YAY.

When I was a little girl in school, each day we were given new words to learn. We would look them up and in our homework give an definition.

But that was it. You see, context changes the meaning of words. Words are not what they are, they are AFFECTED by what is around them.

So no pure definitions are possible.

A pragmatic definition for the pragmatically minded (BORING) of course is always there....SIGH.

What matters is the context, not the word as if it was on an altar for all time.

Words have millions of meanings, each one. Archaic ones, English ones, American ones, colloquialisms, etc. The key is context. From there a word can be surmised as to meaning and intention. A sigh, a tone of voice, affects the whole meaning! To define words in absolute ways for all time DEVOID of feeling and other context is just an emotional insecurity where the person needs to be assured that a=a so they won't have a breakdown when reality does not fit their little fantasy.

MU tech = emotionally insecure and NOT a creative being = not cause ever.

One would assume a philosophy prof is comfortable with words.

Not all are.

I've spent a lot of time word clearing those of foreign languages
and those of poor education. One of the former became class VIII.
One of the latter despite all parameters of staff qual not being met
ended up in the SO and clear and very happy. [circa 1983]

The greater skill one has at words and language the more cause
one can be over ones life.


" What matters is the context, not the word as if it was on an altar for all time."

True. LRH validated this idea in an interesting and probably little known way.

He said that on OT 2 as language changed one may choose words[ probably
end words] that gave most reads.
 

Free Being Me

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

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When all else fails there's the topic of Bob Adams, osa-bot TR-L trained csi v.p. spokes-hole of the $cio-cult and senior v.p. of ABLE, composed of narconon, criminon, the way to happiness, and applied scholastics.
Basically a sleazy slimy cult tentacle.:puke2:

If only someone here could get word to Bob he's representing a vile criminal mafia mind control cult. :melodramatic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Adams_(American_football)

http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/person.php?person_id=163

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...ology-International-Vice-President-April-2014

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?15834-Bob-Adams-on-KGO-Wed-Jan-13

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?15375-Bob-Adams-99-out-100-are-footbullets

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...les-Pitch-quot-Pure-and-Simple-Blackmail-quot

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?22008-OSA-OP-Needs-some-fresh-thread-lovin

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?25191-The-C-O-S-Champion-of-Human-Rights-WTF

http://www.tampabay.com/news/scient...lecture-series-the-basics-unleashes-a/1201177

http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=4994.0

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/sc...-more-from-thr-reporter-daniel-miller-6719372

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...e-last-of-its-tenants-gets-kicked-out-6450841

http://www.reporternewspapers.net/2...cil-defers-settlement-of-scientology-lawsuit/
 

Gizmo

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Oh Christ !

A friend who is know for having perfect pitch just called & I had to ask.....

This is a very soft, kindly speaking person.

The upset of that opinion ?

Hit a tuning fork @ 432 then one @ 440 & yes, to perfect pitch those isolated tones are discernable.

However, this person said in an orchestral setting the distraction of having perfect pitch is more about hearing who is sharp & who is flat & who is just overall out of tune.
So, this person gives no credence to 432 vs 440 being anything most people could ever hear in such a setting.


Previously, a professional piano tuner with perfect pitch sais the 432 /440 stuff is pure snobbery by people who don't really hear well but would like to act like they hear something too subtle for others to hear.

My professional musician friend - credited with near perfect pitch - laughed that this is such a non-topic of buffoonery by those who only pretend to know music.


Facts do not matter. Some are going to push 432/440 is a big deal in the face of all sanity to the contrary.
Facts never matter when one 'knows best'.
 
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Gizmo

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Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Sad. But I tend to believe he believes.
Back when I knew him, he was nice but sort of dense.

 

Maria Cuervo

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One would assume a philosophy prof is comfortable with words.

Not all are.

I've spent a lot of time word clearing those of foreign languages
and those of poor education. One of the former became class VIII.
One of the latter despite all parameters of staff qual not being met
ended up in the SO and clear and very happy. [circa 1983]

The greater skill one has at words and language the more cause
one can be over ones life.


" What matters is the context, not the word as if it was on an altar for all time."

True. LRH validated this idea in an interesting and probably little known way.

He said that on OT 2 as language changed one may choose words[ probably
end words] that gave most reads.


Knowing one knows is not a philosophical stance in academia. And even viewed as naive. Sorry for the wrinkle. Am I understanding your response??

In philosophy what is prized is knowing one does NOT know. My post really does live in THAT Socratic truth.
 
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Maria Cuervo

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Sad. But I tend to believe he believes.
Back when I knew him, he was nice but sort of dense.


Isn't there a thread for this ?

Sigh. I thought I stopped posting when this thread got nasty ..... I am a wog now and don't care. Who is this guy Bob and why am I interested?
 
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Maria Cuervo

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Markhab, OMG Maria, you want to get away from there! I think that Captain Bill Robertson is up there trying to track down Xenu. Also, Elron Elray, the new reincarnation of LRH is out there as well and the word is out that he is upset with you for putting down his tech on the Apollo thread on ESMB. Immediately report back to your home in the USA!

You know, Maria, for you, I would apologize to "Giz" and forget being the butt of his hypocracy but I already tried that and he isn't interested. He doesn't like me and wants me out of here. That's his M.O. He likes the board, a lot and part of the reason is that you are here. CO2 is already out and I'm thinking about leaving and he can be an entertaining poster so maybe he wants to take control over the thread and run it with you as his sidekick. I really don't know if all that is true and am just speculating. I don't even have any objections to that.

What I do object to is dishonesty and hypocracy. A guy is pretending to be a happy go lucky person who loves everybody and just wants to have fun. This may be partially true but it is not fully true. He wants me out, so his words that he loves everyone are phony. He is just not being honest. That is what I object to, I don't want to be the butt of that dishonesty. If he was honest and just came out and said that he didn't like me then I would be okay with that. He is not capable of that much honesty, IMO, so I am going to stand up for myself. That's it in a nutshell. That is my whole beef.
Lakey

Politics bother me, being a lady. I almost regret coming back. Maybe I am not made for forums. I hate fighting and prefer things to be light. It is between you and him. All I can do is cringe. I agree that he pokes at you. But I feel helpless, don't know really how peace can prevail.

I wish each could express themselves without attacks.
 
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Maria Cuervo

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Was he the topic two or three days ago???
 

Free Being Me

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Isn't there a thread for this ?

Sigh. I thought I stopped posting when this thread got nasty ..... I am a wog now and don't care. Who is this guy Bob and why am I interested?

Was he the topic two or three days ago???


Why shouldn't you care? What happened to the altruistic virtues you speak of? You're out so tough luck to everyone else? There's an evil cult called $cientology lying, defrauding, ruining families and scamming people out of millions upon millions a year. Maybe you could get Carmelo to write a note to Bob Adams persuading Misscabbage to end the $cientology cult today, right now. :coolwink:
 
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