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hbeer

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I was inspired by the 72 virgins article preceeding mine. One thing that is never brought up is that the suicide bomber does not meet the 72 virgins until after he dies and no longer has a body. If he meets the virgins in the spiritual world, what good does it do him because neither he nor the virgins have a body at the time of their meeting so what kind of reward is that, basking in the spiritual aura of 72 spirits that lived lives as virgins?

If the virgins are still alive, then the reward is actually a punishment such as what happened to Tantalus in Dante's Inferno. Here the suicide bomber has 72 beautiful virgins who venerate and adore him and are prepared, presumably, to finally give up their virginity for the beloved martyr who honored Allah by killing innocents in the his glorius name. Alas, the martyr no longer has a body. He has 72 beautiful virgins ready to service him and no body with which to "cash in" and collect his reward. The martyrs are therefore tantalized but can't reap their rewards, just like Tantalus in the Inferno.



Lakey,


have you never heard of astral sex? The rumor goes that any kind of physical encounter pales in comparison. And that would include the most glorious lovers that we girls have our eyes on.


http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/astral/obe-astral-sex-1.htm


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lkwdblds

Crusader
Astral Sex?

Lakey,


have you never heard of astral sex? The rumor goes that any kind of physical encounter pales in comparison. And that would include the most glorious lovers that we girls have our eyes on.


http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/astral/obe-astral-sex-1.htm


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Astral sex? I have never heard about it but I looked over the article you linked to. I don't know, Heidrun, that is some pretty far out stuff. Getting back to the topic of the 72 virgins, you can rest assured that the suicide bombers are not experiencing this type of sex. FIrst of all, if you plant a bomb in a pizza parlor and kill 40 people and wound 140 others and you even embed nails into your bomb to do even more maiming, killing and inflicting of intense pain than would otherwise be experienced, you are definitely not going to do any "projecting" astralogically or otherwise. Since you die in the explosion with your victims, you are going to experience this terrible event with them except they will be innocents and much more pure of heart and spirit and you will be the perpetrator, tremendously degraded and compromised as a free and independent spiritual entity.

You are not going to be in a land of milk and honey having sex, either physically or astrally, after pulling off a crime of this magnitude. More than likely, Allah will deal with you extremely severly for killing innocents in his name, a true form of taking his name in vain. If you ever reincarnate, you will probably come back as one of those scummy little urchins that inhabit the bottoms of large aquariums and feed off of the garbage and fecal matter at the bottom of the tank. This may be your lot for the next trillenia.
Lakey
 

AmIFree

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I wonder who else remembers the "great" Apollo Stars? The most "fantastically brilliant new music band ever in the world" ( according to LRH!

It was dreadful! We had a gathering in the mess room in Johannesburg and the new shiny LP was played for us. I was the only person with the guts to say it was hideous rubbish!

LOL
 

Challenge

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at this rate of response, it deserves nothing.

Carmelo, what I think is that not many ppl have stayed with this thread.
Interest was lost when the thread wandered into another language and too many personal stories that few others can relate to. Just my opinion. No inval intended.

I think that you should start another thread and post a bit more detail about the Memorial.
I, for one, am very interested in reading about it.

Challenge
 

Ted

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Carmelo, what I think is that not many ppl have stayed with this thread.
Interest was lost when the thread wandered into another language and too many personal stories that few others can relate to. Just my opinion. No inval intended.

I think that you should start another thread and post a bit more detail about the Memorial.
I, for one, am very interested in reading about it.

Challenge


For me the thread died for another reason which I have discussed with Ms. Orchards.

I agree, however, that ACW deserves his own posthumous thread.
 

R6Basic

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I wonder who else remembers the "great" Apollo Stars? The most "fantastically brilliant new music band ever in the world" ( according to LRH!

It was dreadful! We had a gathering in the mess room in Johannesburg and the new shiny LP was played for us. I was the only person with the guts to say it was hideous rubbish!

LOL

That pretty much what I said about 'LRH and friends" I think was the name.... the CD that was playing in 1996 or so. I was in the EPF and they kept palying it. I finally said "Is it just me or does this music suck?" Everybody looked at me kind of wide eyed :omg: Funny thing is I didn't know that it was a Scilon CD at the time. :) It wasn't until I got back (routed out of EPF) that I learned what it was. I still thought it sucked though.
 

thetanic

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have you never heard of astral sex? The rumor goes that any kind of physical encounter pales in comparison. And that would include the most glorious lovers that we girls have our eyes on.

Oh, so that's what it called.

Why yes, I have.

Only made me crave the originator up close in personal, not that I didn't already.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
The stats do not coincide with your viewpoint

Carmelo, what I think is that not many ppl have stayed with this thread.
Interest was lost when the thread wandered into another language and too many personal stories that few others can relate to. Just my opinion. No inval intended.

I think that you should start another thread and post a bit more detail about the Memorial.
I, for one, am very interested in reading about it.

Challenge

Three comments and one question -
Comment#1 - Have you checked our number of views (hits)? We are at 47,500, the 4th best ever on ESMB. The three ahead of us have had their threads going since 2007 and ours is going only really since mid October of 2009. The March beginning about my story onboard the Apollo grabbed only 2,200 hits, my CCLA story captured 4,500 hits and by mid November, 2009, we had 6,700. I thought that was successful and was going to call it quits but was encouraged to continue forward in this present format by Sweetness and Light and Carmelo. On Dec 3, 2009 we reached the 10,000 milestone. Since then we have ADDED 37,500 more views in one week less than 4 months. That is 10,000 hits a month! That is what we are getting right now and it is not letting up. Some people have dropped off and many have signed on. Just the 37,500 since Dec 3, would put is in fifth place all time. I would call these Power Stats. It is really remarkable that we have been able to do this on a forum such as this.

Comment #2 - That we have wandered off into another language. I like German and maybe 6 weeks ago, we translated a German poem or two by Goethe, using Heidrun's proficiency in German. Leon was also involved. Before that and after that, we speak totally English. Some people were introduced to the fine poetry of Goethe which has some very spiritual overtones. If that is your biggest criticism, we are doing pretty good!

Comment #3 - Carmelo should start a thread himself, containing the matter you want discussed. My take is that he is busy with business, family, helping his clients, posting here and on various threads all over the board and maybe he prefers to co host here rather than start another thread. I do not want to speak for him, but I will tell you this, if and when he wants to start his own thread, he will do so. He is not exactly a reticent type of individual.

Question - If this thread has caused you to loose interest, why do you still read and post on it?

I will tell you this in all honesty. This thread has far outstripped all expectations which I had hoped for. I desired to reach 10,000 hits as a goal and we are now at 47,600 and adding 2,500 a week with no let up. If the thread were to end tomorrow, I would yawn and post my views on other peoples threads or start a new thread myself on a specific topic. Up until two or three weeks ago, I believed that I had to host it or it would die out. What I saw was that when we hit a lull and there was no action for a day or two, when I personally got creative and came up with a clever post or two, the hits resumed immediately time after time. About three weeks ago, I noticed that there were no more lulls and if there was a short one, Carmelo or Roger B. or Sweetness or Mark Baker or Thetanic, Leon, Hedrun Beer or others would immediately post something and start our numbers rising briskly again. Carmelo just went berserk posting with great topics, great quality and innovations, such as beautiful photography, the use of Videos, stories of his family, his thoughts on Knowledgism, his early days before Scientology with his musician friends and various other topics.

I am not needed anymore. I was thinking of taking a break from posting and seeing what happens. When we hit 20,000, Sweetness said I should just sit back and enjoy the ride. I thought if I did that, the thread would die out in maybe two months. Now I am sure that would not be the case. My God, if you apply look, don't listen you see a guy who was merely the Director of Disbursements at a Class IV Org nearly 40 years ago and he was able to start a thread and bring on board enough high quality contributors to pack on 37.600 hits in under 4 months and reach 47,600 overall, the 4th highest total on ESMB. That is a Power Stat!! I achieved that plus I wrote an accurate history of CCLA in the bargain. People can knock this thread all they want, I could care less. I set a goal and to date have quintupled my goal and my stats are in Power. I caused this and brought it about initially through my storytelling ability, a strong memory, a good education, good analytic ability, good critical thinking skills and excellent writing skills. What I am most proud of however, is that in an area where I never showed much strength, "people skills" I had the ability to pull in top level associatesl. My associates are so top level that I am no longer even needed here and I can participate, go along for the ride or walk away. I am very hard on myself when I do poorly or perfom below my abilities but in this instance where I actually performed way beyond what I thought my abilities were, I KNOW I DID A GREAT JOB, A SUPERLATIVE JOB, on this thread and am going to pat myself on the back.

I have decided to not post on this thread for 7 days until next Sunday and see how it goes. Some people such as Challenge and Ted may like it better here without me. I am curious and want to see what happens. Until next Sunday then, if the thread does better without me, I will take note of that and come up with an appropriate response
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Lakey
 
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Challenge

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Certainly are impressive stats. I had no idea that stats were what we were trying for. Silly me.
I have no interest in how many stats a thread garners.
Lakey, I was not ctiticising the thread. Nor did I intend to criticise anyone posting to it.
I merely stated my opinion ( with "disclaimers) that a lot of ppl had lost interest and moved along. I should have also have said that those same ppl drop into the thread from time to time. What-the-fuck-ever.
My whole thing in even posting this was to tell Carmel that there are some of us ( me) who are very interested in Alan's Memorial and would like to read whatever he will tell about it.
I sure as hell wasn't telling Carmel what to do!

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lkwdblds

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The "views" stat indicated how many readers ......

Certainly are impressive stats. I had no idea that stats were what we were trying for. Silly me.
I have no interest in how many stats a thread garners.

Your point of view is short sighted, first dynamic only! The stats are valuable feedback which enable the host and other writers to improve the quality of what is posted!

Lakey, I was not ctiticising the thread. Nor did I intend to criticise anyone posting to it.
I merely stated my opinion ( with "disclaimers) that a lot of ppl had lost interest and moved along. I should have also have said that those same ppl drop into the thread from time to time. What-the-fuck-ever.

Stating your opinion is your right. When one states an opinion, it is best to take some responsibility for it, have it based on something meaningful, some stats, some research or discussions with people who would know. Your comment would be like me writing a letter to Mc Donald's Burgers telling them that people are losing interest in their food and dropping away from eating there and all because they introduced a German Burger of month or so back plus I was just getting bored with their food. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion but does your opinion mean anything? What is it based on?

My whole thing in even posting this was to tell Carmel that there are some of us ( me) who are very interested in Alan's Memorial and would like to read whatever he will tell about it.
I sure as hell wasn't telling Carmel what to do!

Who the hell suggested that you were telling Carmelo (not Carmel who does not post here) what to do? It wasn't me. I told you that it was a good idea. I just commented that he's the type of person who does what he wants to do when he wants to do it. (I was implying that maybe making a request wouldl spur him to want to do it}.


Challenge

Okay, Challenge. Just a word about the stats. The number of views and replies indicate the amount of interest and readership the thread is generating. The quality of the posts is the main product. If one is getting 10,000 views a month consistently which is probably the highest on ESMB in the last several months, then that indicates we are writing quality posts that are informative and interesting and people are coming back for more. The number of replies, nearing 2000 is another indicator that people do not just read our thread but they particpate and share their ideas as well. The stats are like TV and Radio Arbitron ratings, they help one see how his thread is doing so he can improve it. The alternative to using stats is using gut opinion based on nothing. One LRH datum which I believe is valid is, "If you are going to do something, do it as a professional." In runing a thread, one needs to manage it and this is best done by reviewing its stats and not listening to idle opinions.

I am the only one who sees all the people who posted on this thread and the date of their most recent views. Some people have dropped off but many more are being added than have dropped off. There is also a large numbers of Guests reading the thread, some of them doing research into Scientology. Occasionally these types of people will post or write me a PM.

In Summary, I concede that some people are losing interest in the thread but others are still discovering it so readership is staying pretty level at about 10,000 per month. Therefore, based on our readership and the number of reply posts we are receiving, our stats show that the thread currently is not dying out but is perhaps currently the most widely read and replied to thread on all of ESMB.

Lakey
 
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Carmelo, what I think is that not many ppl have stayed with this thread.
Interest was lost when the thread wandered into another language and too many personal stories that few others can relate to. Just my opinion. No inval intended.

I think that you should start another thread and post a bit more detail about the Memorial.
I, for one, am very interested in reading about it.

Challenge

I'll do photos soon.

One more comment before then:
The St. Jo ACLC ( I can't remember what it stands for), after the celebration of Alan's life had a week long course that 17 people took.

The comment that rang for me was that Neville was the adult taking care of everyone, in Alan's place.
 
I wonder who else remembers the "great" Apollo Stars? The most "fantastically brilliant new music band ever in the world" ( according to LRH!

It was dreadful! We had a gathering in the mess room in Johannesburg and the new shiny LP was played for us. I was the only person with the guts to say it was hideous rubbish!

LOL

glad you're here Am I Free.

Actually the individual members of the Apollo All Stars were and are talented. The band's leader, an older dude with perhaps a touch of dementia and megalomania was pretty much the tin ear that everyone tuned to.
 
Green Zone, the movie

Some of our best friends' children have seen action in Iraq. Nothing I write here in any way is meant to defame any soldier. Politicians - yes, soldiers -- no.


We saw Matt Damon's movie "Green Zone" today.

Matt Damon is excellent.

Greg Kinnear has certainly come a long way from "Talk Soup" on E!

The movie takes place in the early days of the American occupation of Iraq.

Greg plays a fictional version of Paul Bremer, the ambassador to Iraq. He is the bad guy.

There is a reporter who is the fictional version of the New York Times' Judith Miller.

The movie moves from start to finish. In the same breath, it makes you sick to be an American, and makes you proud. In so many other countries of the world, a movie this damning of "the government" could never have been made. This movie is big box office.

It is a really good movie.

here is a review I found in "The Hollywood Reporter"

Green Zone -- Film Review
By Kirk Honeycutt, March 04, 2010 10:00 ET
"Green Zone"
Bottom Line: An energetic, frenzied thriller -- Paul Greengrass-style -- set in Iraq in the chaotic post-invasion days.
In "Green Zone," director Paul Greengrass brings the frenetic, run-and-gun style with which he utterly transformed the movie thriller in the Jason Bourne series to a different kind of thriller, one with a sharper political edge. For "Green Zone" explores the Bush administration's willingness to embrace palpable lies over murky truths in order to sell the Iraq War to the American public.

Iraq mostly has been a nonstarter at the boxoffice, but this is Matt Damon, Greengrass and the "Bourne" team reunited on another breathless venture into ticking-clock urgency. So Universal should easily overcome that hurdle to rack up considerable theatrical coin in North America and overseas.

Drawing on his years as a British television journalist covering global conflicts for ITV, Greengrass brings a cinema verite style to his thrillers. He makes these movies look as if a guerrilla camera crew has somehow tagged along with a movie's protagonist to catch key moments in an unfolding story as it explodes in the character's face.

In Hitchcock terms, the movie has both a goal and a MacGuffin. The goal is the determination by U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer Roy Miller (Damon) to discover the reason why his team of inspectors comes up empty every time commanders send them to find chemical weapons in the Iraqi desert. The MacGuffin is a small notebook an Iraqi general grabbed four months earlier as the U.S. invasion began. It contains the addresses of Baathist safe houses in the Baghdad area.

Endangering the lives of his soldiers to hit a target, which Pentagon "intel" has fingered as a storage site for WMDs, and again finding nothing, Miller wants answers. Returning to Baghdad, he encounters three people who could supply them: Defense Intelligence agent Clark Poundstone (Greg Kinnear), CIA station chief Martin Brown (Brendan Gleeson) and Wall Street Journal foreign correspondent Lawrie Dayne (Amy Ryan). Miller doesn't like what he hears.

All the intelligence comes from a single source. This source has confirmed Dayne's many stories about Saddam Hussein's stockpiles of MWDs and now pinpoints the sites Miller's team fruitlessly searches. Then Miller runs across an individual who does have accurate information.

A local, English-speaking Iraqi who calls himself Freddy (Khalid Abdalla) risks his life to approach Miller to tell him that key Iraqi army figures, all wanted by coalition forces, are meeting in a house nearby. This proves to be true. But in a firefight, the Iraqi general escapes, leaving behind that notebook.

This is briefly in Miller's possession, but then a strange thing happens: A Special Forces unit under Lt. Col. Briggs (Jason Isaacs) abruptly moves in to snatch Miller's prisoners. Miller is forced to slip the notebook to Freddy.

Aren't we all on the same side, Miller wonders? CIA agent Brown cautions him against being naive. It now dawns on Miller that he has stumbled onto a cover-up. The race is on to find the general, who seemingly is the all-knowing source for much of the government's intelligence -- and the reporter's stories. Not everyone wants the general taken alive.

Damon, in motion the entire movie, acts as a magnet, drawing every detail of the story and its character into his orbit. Although there might be a touch of naivete to his character's determination to ferret out the truth, there is a Jimmy Stewart aspect, too. He positively will not let anyone, no matter where he belongs in the chain of command or how far "off the reservation" his character drifts, stand in the way of the truth.

The Brown vs. Poundstone dynamics -- the "dinosaur" CIA veteran and the intelligence agent bringing Neo-Con ideology to the Middle East with little thought for the actual needs of a postwar nation -- represent a dramatic standoff. The journalist, with the ghost of the New York Times' Judith Miller lurking in the background, supplies one key piece of information in the troubling mosaic the protagonist puts together.

Abdalla, operating with a prosthetic leg and a battered old Toyota, represents the modern Arab, who watches in dismay as overconfident Americans try to snatch his rebellion and country away from him.

The movie takes its inspiration from a nonfiction book by former Washington Post Baghdad chief Rajiv Chandrasekaran, "Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq's Green Zone." It's not, strictly speaking, an adaptation because Brian Helgeland's script is fiction. Rather, the book supplies something of a beacon for the filmmakers, guiding them in their interpretation of the folly of ignorance and ambition emanating from inside the Green Zone, a safety area including the old Republican Palace where American decision-makers remain cut off from the Iraqi reality.

Greengrass and his "Bourne" team -- cinematographer Barry Ackroyd worked with him on "United 93" -- do a magnificent job of turning locations in Spain, Morocco and the U.K. into a realistic Iraq, a region tumbled into chaos and devastating destruction to its infrastructure.

That chaos tips over into the action of the movie as the film hurtles from one destination to another in a race against time. John Powell's propulsive music eggs the action ever forward, and Christopher Rouse's rapid-fire editing nervously stitches the stunts, chases, fights and confrontations together. It's a remarkable film.
 
I think that you should start another thread and post a bit more detail about the Memorial.
I, for one, am very interested in reading about it.

Challenge

There seems to be a tacit agreement not to say anything. I'll say a little more, when I get some pictures.

It seems that there is some reluctance to comment.

This is just my conjecture, but it seems there was reluctance to have people come to the memorial. The invitation list was limited, to say the least.

As Dylan would say, "There's something happening here, but you don't know what it is; do you Mr. Jones?"
 
Alan's memorial

It looks to me like there were three old friends there, Dean, Neville and ____,

There were some long time students, Bruce and Shoshana Painter, Malcolm Bugler and wife, Hillory Wiggin, and Shirley Blau .

There was the doctor, who had treated him.

There were some recent students who I don't know.

And there was the staff, Lolla, Brian, Ceil, and David.

Ceil had not invited anyone from Scientology days other than the three above.

Alan over the last two decades had separated his ex Scientology on line activities from his Knowledgism activities. His old friends from Scientology, and his acquaintances from the on line world rarely entered the Dallas and St. Jo worlds.

In recent years Knowledgism has applied itself to promoting to businesses and sales people, not ex Sci. The new younger group hopes to be pushing in that area, and not having connections with the ex sci world. The new regime is essentially cutting old ties. The ex Sci aspect has too much baggage.
 
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RogerB

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ACLC stands for Advanced Coaching & Leadership Center.

As you say there were "30 attendees" . . . . the question becomes, who of them is on this site, if any? It was a relatively restricted affair; some folk who wanted to attend were deterred. :duh: (Not the way to win friends :no:)

It's also true that some who went may not yet be home to post.

I'd like to hear of the event, as I did not go/was not on the invite list:no: Besides, it's now a bitch of a journey for me with taxi's to NYC airports, 3 hours in flight, and then a couple of hours getting bruised on the drive from DFW to the ranch . . . takes me a week to put my back together again.

Maybe Dart is doing his well considered thing. :)

I'll have info on Thursday night as one of my clients was there.

And, Lakely . . . . I wouldn't be so anxious about the stats of the thread if I were you. Folks check in as and when they do . . . . there are now so many disparate things being posted to it that it is easy for folks to find things that do not interest them . . . . and the things being posted recently are no longer on the original theme of the name of the thread . . . . so Challenge is correct in her assessment and view . . . . folks who were/are interested in what the thread began with, will have lost interest in participating in something that is another subject. That's life!

So don't take her valid comment as any criticism . . . it is a simple statement of the facts of the matter; and our precious Challenge is a straight enough shooter to speak directly.

Some folks seem to live on ESMB . . . and some of us who have life beyond ESMB check in and out and in fact do not even read every thread let alone every post. I would say I have stuck my nose into maybe only a quarter of the threads.

Some who specialize in one-liner put down shit or nothings . . . get their stats up: who cares and, really, who really reads that shit?

Frankly, I find it to be in the way of the worthwhile stuff . . . . but, that's life too.

It takes some time and the use of a brain to actually formulate intelligible responses, and particularly so if your intent is to help others and benefit them . . . and these are the posts to value.

Ted did good by posting some of Alan's earlier stuff . . . it is a good reminder of valuable info folks can benefit from . . . but what was the response from the predictable one-liner put-down-artists? The usual no-value/nothing is valid/nothing works crap . . . . and these dunces wonder why they have problems either holding down a job or having money . . . . Oh yes, and of course, the no-money types want all services for free :duh:

So, Lakey, don't sweat it mate. Just let things flow. Alternatively, some bright spark could host a thread on "ramblings" and just let folks ramble on about anything and everything!:yes:

Rog
 

afaceinthecrowd

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Apollo Stars

I wonder who else remembers the "great" Apollo Stars? The most "fantastically brilliant new music band ever in the world" ( according to LRH!

It was dreadful! We had a gathering in the mess room in Johannesburg and the new shiny LP was played for us. I was the only person with the guts to say it was hideous rubbish!

LOL

Hello AmIFree. I think you might find my posts re: the Stars interesting and informative as to the creation of El Ron's Revenimus Opus Nauseous p.o.s. album "Power of Source".

They're on the Power of Source thread in the L. Ron Hubbard "Scource or Sauced" Topic, Page 8&9 post #'s 74, 78 & 84. There's also a lot of posts on this thread that show your opinion was broadly shared. Sorry, I'm new here also and a computer numbnuts so I don't know how to post the link to the posts yet.:confused2:

afaceinthecrowd:)
 
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Terril park

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Muslim suicide bombers in Britain are set to begin a three-day strike on Monday in a dispute over the number of virgins they are entitled to in the afterlife. Emergency talks with Al Qaeda have so far failed to produce an agreement

The unrest began last Tuesday when Al Qaeda announced that the number of virgins a suicide bomber would receive after his death will be cut by 25% this April from 72 to only 60. The rationale for the cut was the increase in recent years of the number of suicide bombings and a subsequent shortage of virgins in the afterlife.

The suicide bombers' union, the British Organization of Occupational Martyrs ( or B.O.O.M. ) responded with a statement that this was unacceptable to its members and immediately balloted for strike action. General Secretary Abdullah Amir told the press, "Our members are literally working themselves to death in the cause of Jihad. We don't ask for much in return but to be treated like this is like a kick in the teeth".

Speaking from his shed in Tipton in the West Midlands in which he currently resides, Al Qaeda chief executive Osama bin Laden explained, "We sympathize with our workers concerns but Al Qaeda is simply not in a position to meet their demands. They are simply not accepting the realities of modern-day Jihad in a competitive marketplace.

Thanks to Western depravity, there is now a chronic shortage of virgins in the afterlife. It's a straight choice between reducing expenditure and laying people off. I don't like cutting wages but I'd hate to have to tell 3000 of my staff that they won't be able to blow themselves up."

Spokespersons for the union in the North East of England, Ireland, Wales and the entire Australian continent stated that the strike would not affect their operations as "There are no virgins in our area anyway".

Apparently there has already been a dramatic drop in the number of suicide bombings recently, and this has been put down to the emergence of the Scottish singing star, Susan Boyle – up till now Muslims have never seen a virgin as they always wear a burqaed. Now that Muslims know what a virgin actually looks like that they are not so keen on going to paradise

This actually gave me a "bright idea". If we had a national " Virgin Deflowering" week this will considerably reduce the incidence of suicide bombing.

I am of course also influenced by that great sage Confucious, who said
" make love not war."
 

Challenge

Silver Meritorious Patron
Okay, Challenge. Just a word about the stats. The number of views and replies indicate the amount of interest and readership the thread is generating. The quality of the posts is the main product. If one is getting 10,000 views a month consistently which is probably the highest on ESMB in the last several months, then that indicates we are writing quality posts that are informative and interesting and people are coming back for more. The number of replies, nearing 2000 is another indicator that people do not just read our thread but they particpate and share their ideas as well. The stats are like TV and Radio Arbitron ratings, they help one see how his thread is doing so he can improve it. The alternative to using stats is using gut opinion based on nothing. One LRH datum which I believe is valid is, "If you are going to do something, do it as a professional." In runing a thread, one needs to manage it and this is best done by reviewing its stats and not listening to idle opinions.

I am the only one who sees all the people who posted on this thread and the date of their most recent views. Some people have dropped off but many more are being added than have dropped off. There is also a large numbers of Guests reading the thread, some of them doing research into Scientology. Occasionally these types of people will post or write me a PM.

In Summary, I concede that some people are losing interest in the thread but others are still discovering it so readership is staying pretty level at about 10,000 per month. Therefore, based on our readership and the number of reply posts we are receiving, our stats show that the thread currently is not dying out but is perhaps currently the most widely read and replied to thread on all of ESMB.

Lakey

The thread about 5 above this one "the Two Words Per Post" thread has 6200 odd messages on it.
I don't give a fuck about your stat push.
Been there.
Done that.
I want to hear something about Alan's Memorial.
I concede that I was stoopid to have posted that desire on YOUR thread. I should have PM'd Carmelo. My bad.
I will leave YOUR thread to YOU now.


Challenge

Challenge
 
The thread about 5 above this one "the Two Words Per Post" thread has 6200 odd messages on it.
I don't give a fuck about your stat push.
Been there.
Done that.
I want to hear something about Alan's Memorial.
I concede that I was stoopid to have posted that desire on YOUR thread. I should have PM'd Carmelo. My bad.
I will leave YOUR thread to YOU now.


Challenge

Challenge

people dropping off the thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZlgu3H_1YI&feature=related
 
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