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I'm also a Chef Chu's fan, only manage to get there about once a year.

(Chef) Larry Chu's son Jonathan was in musical theater with our youngest. One summer she was Dorothy and Annie for two separate theater companies performing concurrently.She went on to get a TV series in sixth grade. She impressed him. He chose the entertainment biz because of her. Now after USC film school, Jonathan has several movies under his belt. He has been signed by Sony to direct the remake of The Great Gatsby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vngJ1pWXYnU&feature=related


Also a Peetnik. :)

I used to drive to Menlo Park, where the nearest Peet's was ages ago, before there was a Peet's in our town.




The best Mexican food on the peninsula (and I prefer Mexican above all else, so I eat at Mexican restaurants a lot) is Oaxacan Kitchen in Palo Alto. It's always busy, there's almost always a wait, but they also have stands at the farmer's market on Saturday and Sunday. In fact, that's how they started. It's just as good, and less fussy than the sit-down experience. Hmm, I just looked at their pages -- they're now at even more farmer's markets including Los Altos on Thursday afternoon.

Their mole is terrific. Saw them tonight.
 
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This is NOT OK !!!!

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We should add Langer's Deli next to MacArthur park in Los Angeles - the world's best Pastrami Sandwich.
And I'm partial to Dr Babcock's restaurant in Seal Beach - he also owns a very nice unpretentious winery towards La Purisima mission near Solvang.

Roland

Langers EVERY Saturday night - blow at least half my staff pay on my Pastrami sandwich. :thumbsup:

Oh, I miss the old days ......:whistling:
 
MAB's ACTIONS IN GIVING UNSOLICITED ADVICE Mab enters the scene in the guise of a kindly friend, freely evaluating for me at will and dispensing advice, labeling my predicament as the dramatizing of a common type of Service Facsimile and recommending various things to read and process to run to handle this alleged Service Facsimile.

My first reaction is, "Well its nice of him to be concerned but why is he jumping in to evaluate for me because I did not ask for his expertise." Next, I asked myself, "What are his credentials?, Is he a classed auditor and if so, what class? Is he OT III or above, I am OT V so is he supposed to be attempting a handle on me from wherever his level of training and processing is? WHAT ARE MAB'S QUALIFICATIONS TO OFFER THIS HELP? He never states what his qualifications are. Does he know more than me, why does he want to help me.

I politely responded to him telling him that I appreciated his concern for my welfare but I strongly disagreed with him that I was dramatizing a Service Facsime. Further, after reading through his complex diagnosis of my case and his recommended actions, nothing which he wrote indicated to me as being correct so I politely thanked him for his help and suggested that he desists in helping me. His response was further evaluation that I was not thinking straight and was refusing help because of my Service Facsimile being in restimulation. NOW THIS SAME SCENE PLAYED OUT 3 TIMES IN A 4 DAY PERIOD, JULY 17 TO JUL 21.

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? I have basically three choices on what to do:
1. Follow his recommendations
2. Ignore him
3. Tell him to get lost and if he refuses then attack him.
Women must face this dilimma often when approached by unwanted sexual advances! They can go with the guy, ignore him or tell him to get lost and fight him if he refuses to comply.

I almost chose the ignore option but after much soul searching I decided to attack him. One thing about this particular individual, I see him as one who does not readily admit it when he is wrong and he does not show much capacity to change. There is a good chance that he only meant to help and meant me no harm. With all that to factor into the equation of what to do, I decided to attack him so for better or worse that is what I did. I did not ask him for his analysis and I do not seek his help. I believe I really have no problem and have worked out thing well in my own way.

I tried to help MAB by giving him a suggestion in that if he wishes to help others, he should use Rogers method of doing it. That method consists of refering the person to some proven technical information and then asking the person some probing questioins so as to get the person to look. That method is going to go a lot further than MAB's approach which is to offer unwanted help by assuming a position of altitude over the person and then evaluating heavily for the person, perhaps invalidating them in the process and then giving them a set of directions to follow. ALSO AS A SIDE COMMENT, MAB USES TOO MANY LARGE WORDS. He goes out of his way to use large words which I think he feels tend to allow more pedantic expression than simpler words. .

So there you have it Sweetness, this is the true reason why I went after MAB. I have nothing against him personally but I want him to stop evaluating for me and giving me unsolicieted advice. Being a woman, surely you have experienced unwanted advances from men who will not accept a simple "no" and sometimes women have to take extreme measures to reject an unwanted suitor. It does not mean they do not like the guy as a human being but only that they don't want the guy as their 2D. The same with me and MAB, it doesn't mean I don't like and respect him as an individual but just that I don't want him to give me unsolicited advice and evaluation. There are topics and times when I come to people and seek their advice and I would not rule out seeking advice from MAB at a future time but I just do not want unsolicited advice and evaluation from him. That is the plainest why I can think of to explain my feelings and with that I am going to permanently end cycle on this topic of discussion and move on to something more upbeat!
Lakey

Can't we just all agree that Mark Baker is the Devil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TIdoy8wFw8
 

thetanic

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(Chef) Larry Chu's son Jonathan was in musical theater with our youngest. One summer she was Dorothy and Annie for two separate theater companies performing concurrently.She went on to get a TV series in sixth grade. Now after USC film school, Jonathan has several movies under his belt. He has been signed by Sony to direct the remake of The Great Gatsby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vngJ1pWXYnU&feature=related

Cool! I just looked him up on IMDB.

Their mole is terrific. Saw them tonight.

When we go farmers marketing in that area, I always get either a quesadilla or their skirt steak enmolada -- with some of their freshly made agua fresca. Makes the shopping go faster. :)
 
House of Nanking - SF. Total dive, amazing. I was in there one time (1995?). Chef/Owner Peter Fang knew me and served crispy, chili sauce shrimp and his eggplant dish. Old guy in beard next to me say's "that's great shrimp" and we have a nice conversation and he leaves. Peter comes up to me and says, "You know who that was? Francis Ford Copola!". I laughed. Guy knows his food.

cool story

What's that place up on Skyline Drive in Woodside(?). Old school, but what a view and WHAT a wine list (if you know your Zins)!

Buck's, most likely - Woodside Rd.. More deals in Silicon Valley are made there than anyplace else. It was there, I got hired, over apple pie, a decade ago to run adidas' pregnancy sportswear line.

Draeger's Grocery (Menlo Park?).

Very classy and expensive.
I like Safeway better, more common folk.
Best I like Whole Foods. My type of food.
 
OMG!:melodramatic: OMG!:melodramatic:

Haven't been able to look at the thread in 4 days...WOW, you guys are smokin'!:thumbsup:

I'll be on vacation until Sunday...gonna take me days and days to catch up...I love it!:yes: Been doin' a quick, very brief perusal of the the posts. Whatta bunch of literate, brilliant, irreverent and f-u-n beings yall are.:coolwink: Gawd I love this thread and all yall!:thumbsup: So much good stuff to read when I get back!:happydance:

Aint life grand?:D

Face:)

PS: How did I ever get so lucky to find this thread?:confused2:

As Minnie Pearl would say, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjX1LpSow_g
 
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thetanic

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I like Safeway better, more common folk.
Best I like Whole Foods. My type of food.

Some of the Draeger's family are celiac, so for me, it means I can walk into any of their stores and buy something I can actually eat. For that reason, I do all my shopping there when I'm in the area. They carry Straus milk, which is awesome (Whole Foods carries it too).

I don't like Whole Foods's business practices overall, so I stick with Draeger's when I can.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
As long as you guys get our stats up, whose complaining?

Northern California has taken control of the Apollo thread. There is nothing that you can do about it. We will return control to other sectors of the planet when we feel like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_jopBXcbxk

I am stat crazy and as long as you guys bring in the Views and Replys, be my guest! No complaints from my end. Maybe with all the top eateries in your area, you people will overeat and be unable to work and then we will resume control from you so here's to you all, Bon Appetit! Live, drink and be merry and we will take over for you when you are too sick or to drunk to dominate this thread.
Lakey
 
Ralph Houk dies at 90; managed Yankees, Tigers and Red Sox

Thu Jul 22 06:43am PDT

Ralph Houk dies at 90; managed Yankees, Tigers and Red Sox
By David Brown

Ralph Houk managed the New York Yankees in one of their most glorious seasons and through some of the organization's roughest times.

And he had the good sense to see George Steinbrenner coming; Houk quit before the Boss could fire him.

It was no wonder: Houk also survived D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge in World War II.

Houk, a manager for 20 seasons in the majors who led the Yankees to two World Series championships and three pennants in his first seasons at the helm, died Wednesday at his home in Winter Haven, Fla. He was 90.
Houk won 1,619 games — 15th all-time — with the Yankees, Detroit Tigers and Boston Red Sox from 1961-1984. The arc of Houk's playing career was forever changed by the war, where he won a Silver Star and rose to the rank of major — which became his nickname.

Via his obituary in the New York Times, we can gain insight into how Houk handled his players:

Houk's strong point was building the morale and confidence of his players with an optimistic outlook and a refusal to criticize them publicly.

"I don't think you can humiliate a player and expect him to perform," Houk said.

Though not an icon like Steinbrenner or even public address announcer Bob Sheppard — both of whom also died within the past two weeks — Houk made an indelible contribution to Yankees history.

He went 944-806 in 11 seasons in New York, but he did his best managing in the early going when the talent was still great. Especially in '61, his baptism by fire as a major league manager.

It's hard to imagine the impact of the media circus surrounding the Yankees, particularly coverage of the pursuit by Mantle and Roger Maris of Babe Ruth's single-season home run record.

If it was anything like what Billy Crystal portrayed in "61*," then Houk had his hands full.

After a two-year stint as the Yankees' general manager, Houk returned to the dugout in 1966 and stayed until 1973 during a period of decline; the Yankees finished under .500 four times, if you can believe it. With Steinbrenner on the way in and set to clean house, Houk resigned.

Houk knew when he was in over his head.

He managed Detroit from 1974-1978, getting out just as Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Lance Parrish and Jack Morris were establishing themselves in the majors — and before Sparky Anderson took that core group to the World Series.

I'm old enough to remember Houk near the end of his career when he managed the Red Sox. He had modest success in the early '80s, between eras of Boston heartbreak. He was Wade Boggs' and Roger Clemens' first manager. And the last for Carl Yastrzemski.

As a 10-year-old, my honest impression of Houk was this: "He seems really old to be managing." And with those sunglasses, he reminded me of Douglas MacArthur.

But the guy was a survivor — and he was pretty good at being a manager, too.
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RogerB

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To clarify this point: I never myself made an invalidative reference in my posts.

My purported "offense", such as it is, lay in daring to point out what was a clear instance of self-invalidation in one of Lakey's posts and illustrating how such self-invalidations arise from our own closely held considerations.


Mark A. Baker

Yes. The trick my Dear is to ask, not tell.

To infer or suggest, not state.

To present a principle or general "rule," and allow it to be applied by the person if it fits; but not to say it fits or try to make it fit.

Rog
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
Around Christmas of 1980, my wife and I sent Christmas presents to Phil and Julie Spickler, who were plunking down money like it was going out of style for Flag auditing. The presents we sent were t shirts that we had made for them:

"The New Sea Org Motto:

Didja get the money?
"


"The Clearwater Moving Target Assn." written clearly over a large red bullseye.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

You gotta tell me what the reaction to THAT was!
 

lkwdblds

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Stated so perfectly in 3 short lines!

Yes. The trick my Dear is to ask, not tell.

To infer or suggest, not state.

To present a principle or general "rule," and allow it to be applied by the person if it fits; but not to say it fits or try to make it fit.

Rog

Stated perfectly in 3 short sentences! I might add one thing more about trying to make it fit. If TR 4 was used, treating my comments as originations from me, the being, I probably would not have become upset, but an insistant TR3 was used and that exacerbated the bad reaction I was feeling.

One final comment, if I knew what MAB's training level and qualifications were and knew them to be superior to mine and/or had I asked him for help, then even the insistant TR 3 would not have upset me because I would have rationalized that he knew what he was doing and besides, I asked him for his help. Since I did not know anything of his credentials and did not seek his help, resentment grew in me when he treated my originations as mere comments and used TR 3 to drive his points home. I can see that the resentment was part of my remaining case going into restim. I tried to harness my case but it got out of hand just a bit and for that I am sorry. Otherwise, I believe my reactions were proper. From MAB's point of view, I now believe that he was only trying to help. Perhaps that is some consolation.
Lakey
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
How about a slight modification?

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

You gotta tell me what the reaction to THAT was!

How about keeping the current motto and adding your motto to it?

For example, "We return until we get the money and keep returning until we get all your money."

Are there any Latin scholars here who can translate that into Latin?

It might go something like, "Revenemus por el dinero et revenemus mas hasta todo el dinero obtenemus est."

A bastardize combination of Latin made up of a little Latin, a liittle Spanish and a lot of imagination.
Lakey
 
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

You gotta tell me what the reaction to THAT was!

They were both wasting a hundred thou apiece, so there was no reaction from the SO. Phil, at the end of his auditing, was asked to attest to Clear OT. He came back crazy as a loon, looking for BTs everywhere in everyone. Never being able to just say "I went to the park." he'd say "someone went to the park"

He was silently declared as he left also. No goldenrod, just word of mouth declared. He was always a rabble rouser, had always been one. He had made comments, while he was there, that apparently weren't appreciated. So the t shirts were just more icing on the cake.

It was a typical LRH mind fuck. Just like when LRH picked Rocky Stump up personally, took him to the boat, feted him, and when he was on his way back to ASHO had him declared.

He slowly came back around to sanity, after having been declared. He could put the pieces together. What had made sense to me in 1976, when I left the fold on my own, then began to make sense to him after he was told to leave the fold.

Mucho decades later: He is closing on 80 years old, plays hard games of tennis each week, bike rides, gets about $4-5 K per painting that he does on a commission basis, audits a bit (for people looking to have their case cracked), was in the front office of the brand new Stanford football stadium (he's a civil engineer), spends time in the mountains, with the grandkids, does substitute teaching, writes on the IVy list -- not a bad lifestyle
In my wildest dreams, back then, I never thought I'd be sharing stories like this with former SO members.
 

RogerB

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Stated perfectly in 3 short sentences! I might add one thing more about trying to make it fit. If TR 4 was used, treating my comments as originations from me, the being, I probably would not have become upset, but an insistant TR3 was used and that exacerbated the bad reaction I was feeling.

One final comment, if I knew what MAB's training level and qualifications were and knew them to be superior to mine and/or had I asked him for help, then even the insistant TR 3 would not have upset me because I would have rationalized that he knew what he was doing and besides, I asked him for his help. Since I did not know anything of his credentials and did not seek his help, resentment grew in me when he treated my originations as mere comments and used TR 3 to drive his points home. I can see that the resentment was part of my remaining case going into restim. I tried to harness my case but it got out of hand just a bit and for that I am sorry. Otherwise, I believe my reactions were proper. From MAB's point of view, I now believe that he was only trying to help. Perhaps that is some consolation.
Lakey

Yes, his intention was to do good and help. That is his nature.

Just that he told instead of asking:D

The more correct procedure is to make a correct observation (which he did, by the way) and to ask, "Is it?" Not state, "It is."

AS you agree, one is mainly hung up due to one's own considerations. Hubbard coined the term "Serfacs" to refer to variations on this basic theme.

The fact is, however, it is our considerations/thoughts that are the basis of our belief systems, operating paradigms and many of our hang-ups . . . and yes, one could use Hubbard's term "serfacs."

There is much milage to be won by picking up such "thoughts"/"considerations." and running the "Thoughts are Things Procedure" I posted on this thread.:yes:

I benefit from it on a regular basis. :happydance: Indeed, I last ran it only last week.

Rog
 
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