The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[FoTi]

Nikola Tesla is turning over in his grave in a good way with this.

Maybe the fucking government will leave them alone this time.

There is also a secret and similar project coming out of Australia.

I assume this could be used in cars to power a hydraulic accumulator or generator/battery combo.

Airplanes too, where the reliability would probably match turbines or better.
Weight might be a problem though.


Much to my surprise Tesla was channeled on my questions on 12 June 10.

He said his magnetic planet field oscillator electricity generating device was not quite perfected before, implying that he knows the missing bit now.

He predicted that in 2023 a Time Travel Device will arrive. The government already has one at Mountauk Point, Long Island, but I am certain he means it would be an open accepted tech by that point, saying also 2012 will be an initial gradient starting point.
This is a necessary device to build ships for distant "light year" travel.

Tesla told me that he (using his cousin) blew up his own power generating tower on Long Island, because he was pissed at J.P. Morgan (a suppressive).

He maintains a research group of beings over many lifetimes.

Tesla is operating multiple bodies now.

There is more, but it is personal.

I twinned with one of his multiple bodies ex wife on the KTL. Apparently one of his bodies was in the SO for a while.

 

[FoTi]

TGZ,

You may be surprised to learn that Chen Ning Yang and Tsung Dao Lee won the Nobel in 1957 for proving it is possible.

Check it out

Why their discovery never got applied is one of those political conundrums . . . but being researchers at Princeton and Columbia in the US during the cold war might just have had something to do with the discovery getting suppressed.

R

Back in the mid 70's I met a man who was an inventor type person. He owned the garage where I took my car for repair. He told me that back in the 40's he had developed a perpetual motion machine, put it on an airplane and flew it and when he came down for a landing, representatives from some oil company were there to greet him and told him to cease what he was doing and never tell anybody how he did this or else they would kill his family. They put a bullet hole through his livingroom window to prove their point. He stopped his project and wouldn't ever tell anyone how he did it - he didn't want his family to pay the price.

My father also came up with a design for a perpetual motion machine, but never had the money to build a prototype before he died, so I have no idea if it would have worked or not. It looks to me like whoever comes forth with something like this, that really works, is in danger of having their life destroyed. The guys who make money off the oil industry stand to lose big time with this type of technology, and they don't play nice or care about you or the future of this planet....they only care about how much money they make. I've seen how these guys operate. They use the government to have their way. They also use destructive force to have their way and are not above murdering anyone to protect their interests.

I wish these guys all the best in the world with their new machine. I know perpetual motion machines are possible. I just hope they can make it through this alive, in good health and pull this off for the benefit of everyone. This would be really fabulous.

 

[SchwimmelPuckel]

And yet.. A perpetual motion machine that I have actually brought home from a vendor and started.. Ah.. and having run it for a time too.. That will convince me!

Nothing less!

Channeling Nicola Tesla a MIIIILLLION times at once will not do it either!

So.. We seemingly have a project underway from australia.. By reports soon to come. The perpetual machine may then ascend from a status of shildish, if not deluded, lies and hokum, to something that can be recognized to actually exist!

But perpetual motion machines still has the rather low and ignomious status!

 

[RogerB]

Back in the mid 70's I met a man who was an inventor type person. He owned the garage where I took my car for repair. He told me that back in the 40's he had developed a perpetual motion machine, put it on an airplane and flew it and when he came down for a landing, representatives from some oil company were there to greet him and told him to cease what he was doing and never tell anybody how he did this or else they would kill his family. They put a bullet hole through his livingroom window to prove their point. He stopped his project and wouldn't ever tell anyone how he did it - he didn't want his family to pay the price.

My father also came up with a design for a perpetual motion machine, but never had the money to build a prototype before he died, so I have no idea if it would have worked or not. It looks to me like whoever comes forth with something like this, that really works, is in danger of having their life destroyed. The guys who make money off the oil industry stand to lose big time with this type of technology, and they don't play nice or care about you or the future of this planet....they only care about how much money they make. I've seen how these guys operate. They use the government to have their way. They also use destructive force to have their way and are not above murdering anyone to protect their interests.

I wish these guys all the best in the world with their new machine. I know perpetual motion machines are possible. I just hope they can make it through this alive, in good health and pull this off for the benefit of everyone. This would be really fabulous.

Yep,

When I was about 14 back in Oz, the motorists association equivalent of the Royal Auto Club or American Auto Assoc (AAA) in my home state of NSW, the Nat. Road & Motorists Assoc. (NRMA) published a report in their monthly news mag of test they did of a claimed invention of a pill that when put in a tank of water converted the water into a combustible fluid comparable to gasoline.

It was big news. For the NRMA stated their test confirmed the invention worked.

My father said it would never get to market as the petrol companies would buy it out and keep it off the market . . . he tended to have that pragmatic, negative view of life

Anyhow, I remember AMPOL with Total bought the rights to the compound for the sum of £5,000,000 which was huge money in those days.

My dad was right. The pill never saw the light of day.

Rog

 

[Student of Trinity]

Lee and Yang got the Nobel prize for proving that parity is not conserved — in certain processes of radioactive decay. This had and has nothing whatever to do with magnetic perpetual motion machines. It doesn't have any known applications at all, in fact.

The Great Zorg has nailed this one. I frankly don't give a damn if anyone wants to believe in this nonsense, but in case you're investing any money in it, just mark his words.

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

For the first couple of years in my ANG (Air National Guard) experience we flew C-97s - the civilian version was called the Boeing "Stratocruiser" which was a lot like the B-29. Pressurized, Turbocharged and truly a lovely work of art. It cruised at around 250K indicated and got from Travis AFB in CA to Hickam Field, HI in comfort and style.

Later we transitioned into C-124's which were unpressurized, a bit slower - but could carry huge, outsized cargo anywhere on the globe. :confused2:

It was all good - but I vividly recall one late evening approaching "Diamond Head" which I had painted beautifully on the Radar; Don Nash, the flight engineer, drawling laconically on the intercom... well boys and girls, if we were in the RIGHT airplane, we'd be coming out of 29 thousand (feet), hours earlier, well rested and ready to do the town."

I dunno why I decided to post this...but it is such a wonderful "pleasure moment" that I just wanted to share it.

Your fellow traveller,

EP aka Mike Horton

Fabulous! You lucky dog you. Thanks, EP.

I’ve seen a cut-away of the C-97's engines (28 cylinder radial, 3,500+hp, Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major). Whatta machine…whatta machine!

Face

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Originally Posted by afaceinthecrowd
Lakey,

I don’t see that I pulled off some OT trick and cheated death…I just don’t look at it that way. It was truly a gift, for what reason and why me, I know not why.

Veda’s post re: SRI and “Mind Race” is exactly in concert with several of my “Readers Digest” posts in regards to the who’s and what’s that, in my opinion, “made” White Scientology.

Most folks have “psychic” abilities of one form or another, to one degree or another. Some are more “acute” than others and some of those have tried, are trying, to hone and expand them. The way I see it, most all of us have gifts and part of our path is to give of these gifts to others, and to be accepting and receptive of others giving of their gifts to us.

The Medicos never told me that my recovery was impossible...my Doctors were not expecting the extent and breadth of my recovery and they see it as a “miracle”. What they did do is remain positive with me and work diligently within the framework of all their medical skills and knowledge, step by step, day by day over a period of years. They were steadfast, resourceful and consistent. And, I know for a fact, many of them prayed for me.

El Ron was very concerned about the subject of being “Source”. His version of Scn was all about us being source within a universe of Hisself’s “Source-ness”. In effect, El Ron got us to buy into ourselves as being within his own image and view of “It” all…of being “source” with Hisself as “The Source” and the model of "Source-ness" and the possessor of the Majik "Source Boots".

El Ron spoke and wrote disparagingly about Mystics and Mysticism. In my view that was because Hisself was unable to accept and embrace the first predicate of Mysticism that is the key to open an individual’s first Mystical portal:

“This, That and It are all a collaboration.”

In my view, we are all dealing with and within “energies, forces, influences and confluences thereof” that we don’t fully “see or get” but are, to a greater or lesser degree, aware of and part of.

You have Psychic gifts, Mystic predilections and so does Ted, Roger, Carmelo, Leon, S&L, EP, TMT, Veda and on and on and on with so many others here…that, in part, is why we are all here, together, on this thread.

My recovery was not due to some great “OT Power” that I posses or that is me. My recovery was a serendipitous by-product of acceptance of and surrender to the ebb and flow of “The Collaboration”.

I don’t see myself as having any “OT” abilities…I have gifts, as do we all, and those gifts may be enjoyed or abused…the choice is mine, and yours. The way you enjoy a gift is to share it with others…the way you abuse a gift is to possess it. The way you replenish a gift is to give some away, let it go…the way you squander a gift is to ration it, hoard it. Enjoying a gift replenishes it, refines it. Hoarding a gift squelches it, corrupts it.

I think my comments above are in concert with what Ted and Rog said so well in their recent posts.

Face

Quote:
Originally Posted by CarmeloOrchards
yep

"Yep" to all the above. (Ted)

Can I just add my "yip" to these yeps?

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Jump on in the deep end of the pool and swim with us!

Thanks, I don't feel "knocked" by you at all. My post was an exercise in trying to" think with" Hubbard's ideas about it, nothing more. I have never been "in" the CoS but I find Hubbard's writings/lectures interesting/entertaining. Perhaps precisely because I was never "in" and was not subjected to the real-world applications of the "philosophy", other than having a little auditing from a Field Auditor in the 1970s, and doing some TRs and Objectives around that same time. All of that was a positive experience for me.

My point was mainly that an "OT" was neither basically good nor basically bad, or could be either. I am not actually comfortable using the word "thetan" and do not think of myself or others as "thetans". At the same time, I do think "theta" is a meaningful and useful concept.

To me, the meaningful word is "Being", not "thetan". A being can exist with or without an association with a body.
A being associated with a body and playing the role or game of "human being" is likely to be basically trying to survive. Only in that context could the concept of him being "basically good" apply. A person or being can only have an orientation when he has a context(game) towards which he orients himself. It is his basic impulse to further survival of himself and his dynamics, that Hubbard characterized as "basically good".
Otherwise he simply has the potential to be good, bad, indifferent, or whatever.
So both arguments are right - "Man" is basically good, and an "OT" may not be basically good. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I never did a "PE course" so I don't really recognize the reference, but what I outlined above often seems to be overlooked.

I was also trying to point out that members of the cult of scientology, by which I mean the organized, established "church" or "religion" of scientology are way wrong when they claim their little organization somehow deserves to survive because of all the good it is doing across the dynamics.

In the context of Hubbard's explanation of the 8 dynamics that I have heard in his lectures, it is actually just an inbred self-serving little group that has about as much "survival value" to the world as the Democratic Peoples Republic Of North Korea does. It contributes little or nothing positive to the larger society, and in fact, like North Korea, I see it as a destructive cancer on the larger scene.

My point is the cult members who believe their org deserves to survive are deluding themselves and completely failing to understand and apply the basic concepts about the dynamics, survival, goodness etc, of the philosophy as laid out by Hubbard, whom they supposedly revere as the "Founder"of their enterprise.

Greetings, compadre!!! Glad to have you join us, especially to welcome another "Non" to this thread...I see I am not the only one here with this viewpoint! I say being when describing "us" and always have.

"PE Course" is "Personal Efficiency", right guys? I never did it etither.

 

[SweetnessandLight]

I vote for no seperation!

That number 6 was another superb one, TMT. Than you very much indeed.

Whenever I read one of your chronicles I come back to the same question that I am gettng a better view of the more I progress, and that is "what exactly is a thetan?"

Is he a unit being? Or does he exist across all of his dynamics simultaneously while viewing only the tiny tiny portion he calls "self"? The more I look at it the more I tend to the latter viewpoint.

In other words - is Betsy just yourself on a broader unviewed dynamic or is she indeed a fully separate being? I don't know the final answer yet, or even if there is one. When you are dealing with infinity as a single concept, then the concept of 'one' is meaningless.

The other idea I cogitate on and try to unravel is just what exactly is 'present time'. For a being who is in no-time and can be at any time point anywhere, just wat is meant by this thing called "present time'. It seems to me to be just "total focus on one tiny sliver of infinite time".

But again, I'm still learning.


Thanks again.

I lean to this way of thinking myself, Leon. I am more than my name, my gender, my body, my mind, my profession, my nationality, my political orientation, my hobbies, my likes and dislikes, etc. (or what other people think of me!) All the mental constructs we use to define our "self". All lot of the time, I feel part of everybody and everything... (connected with and included in)... does that just make me wierd??? I definately am not a materialist, as Veda would say.

(O.K., I'm ready to sing Kum Bah Yah now!)

Leon, the more that I live and experience "things unseen", the more I perceive there IS no separation. That the appearance that we are all separate beings independant of each other is an illusion of some sort. Maybe the biggest illusion we deal with. (This is one of the viewpoints that I think Ron really got wrong.)

Maybe it's really a big old web of theta that we are all dancing on, and can "twang" certain threads or strands of it to communicate or create in extraordinary ways (what is being talked about here as OT type stuff). Remember what I said about fish supposedly not being able to perceive the water they are living in? That I thought that theta or spiritual energy/reality (Life) might be like that, for us, too. It's always all around us and in us and is us, but some of us perceive it more clearly and tangibly than others. (The rest of the fishies think we're nuts! )

I know I feel connected to something big, vast, endlessly interesting, and lively, and have ever since I can remember. Since before I could talk. I feel this way on my own, but it's fun when I get to touch different parts of this when in communication with other like-minded beings. I think Johhny Raff and others here enjoy playing a similar game. (A hug to the being known as Betsy!)

As Roger says, it's a fun game to be loving with others! Love is a Be and a Do. I heal much better when in collaboration with like-minded others. Both inflow and outflow! I create more easily, know more, can endure more struggles, have better insights, etc.

There is something about collective theta, or spirit, that helps to raise all boats. Casting our bread on the waters, paying it forward, piling up those "good karma" brownie points, etc. really does seem to put us at cause in the world. Maybe just being loving beings and getting outside of our own selfish viewpoints does it. Observing and experienceing this makes me think that we are all connected in both tangible and intangible ways, that we are just learning how to tap into and use our collective unconscious, or our collective spiritual energy.

Lakey, ask your daughter what she thinks about our collective unconscious. I'm not making these terms up, "on a whim". Thank you for communicating more with me and clarifying what you were thinking, I appreciate it!

Blue Spirit made a very valuable point about helping and helpers, and the quality of help being there for you when you need it, based on your own previous attitudes of abundance or scarcity in willingness to relieve another's burdons in some way.

I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!

 

[RogerB]

Lee and Yang got the Nobel prize for proving that parity is not conserved — in certain processes of radioactive decay. This had and has nothing whatever to do with magnetic perpetual motion machines. It doesn't have any known applications at all, in fact.

The Great Zorg has nailed this one. I frankly don't give a damn if anyone wants to believe in this nonsense, but in case you're investing any money in it, just mark his words.

Yes, this Lee and Yang got the Nobel prize for proving that parity is not conserved — is the point that is being applied here . . . it is the point that "violates" conventional wisdom, as applied, that a system as being claimed by these guys is quote "perpetual motion" and/or cannot occur because of all the usual fixed ideas of theory of the laws of thermodynamics etc., etc., and of "entropy" . . . . Jeezzuzz I do not have time to deal with all the tripe espoused on the subject of "entropy"!!!! and/or issues of effect of lost energy due to friction, and all that.

My view is that conventional wisdom and the fixed ideas of science are too often overthrown by cats who think outside of the limits of "authority" to out-of-hand reject someone who has a working model and is demonstrating what they claim . . . and in the case of the guys behind the press release posted by CarmelO . . . a working model is what they are demonstrating and are having validated by independent observers.

The fact that "parity is not conserved" is what enables their system to work . . . if it truly works as demonstrated and if it is not a trick machine rig. As, for me to be absolutely certain it is the real deal, I would have to go see and test it myself as things stand.

But, the history of science and technological development is rife with violations of "conventional wisdom" and the "laws of science" . . . . so I hang with those who propose advancement . . . and as Ronnie Regan said: "Trust but verify!"

However, if they are smart, they will not get hung up on trying to "convince investors" and all that shit. The quick way to fame and fortune for them is to build a couple of machines . . . the demo models look as cheap as piss to build, and to then hook them up to the electrical grid and reap the fortune the electricity companies are required by law to pay you . . . . hey, it won't take long to get so bloody rich you wouldn't need "investors" . . . . and you'd sure as hell have proved your point!

And if it is really workable, the electricity companies and mining companies around the world will be beating a path to their doors . . . . you any idea the cost of getting electricity to out-of-the-way mining sites???? It's big dollars This is a winner for that . . . if it works as demonstrated.

Hell, this is such a good way to go, I think I'll go offer my services as adviser!

R

 

[SweetnessandLight]

And now, for a moment of poetry!

This poem was written in 1875 by the english poet William Ernest.

It is called Invictus.

It is the poem that Nelson Mandela read to himself throughout his captivity.

"Invictus

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gait,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul."

Words to live by, fellow thetans!

 

[Blue Spirit]

Authoritarian Suppression

Yes, this Lee and Yang got the Nobel prize for proving that parity is not conserved — is the point that is being applied here . . . it is the point that "violates" conventional wisdom, as applied, that a system as being claimed by these guys is quote "perpetual motion" and/or cannot occur because of all the usual fixed ideas of theory of the laws of thermodynamics etc., etc., and of "entropy" . . . . Jeezzuzz I do not have time to deal with all the tripe espoused on the subject of "entropy"!!!! and/or issues of effect of lost energy due to friction, and all that.

My view is that conventional wisdom and the fixed ideas of science are too often overthrown by cats who think outside of the limits of "authority" to out-of-hand reject someone who has a working model and is demonstrating what they claim . . . and in the case of the guys behind the press release posted by CarmelO . . . a working model is what they are demonstrating and are having validated by independent observers.

The fact that "parity is not conserved" is what enables their system to work . . . if it truly works as demonstrated and if it is not a trick machine rig. As, for me to be absolutely certain it is the real deal, I would have to go see and test it myself as things stand.

But, the history of science and technological development is rife with violations of "conventional wisdom" and the "laws of science" . . . . so I hang with those who propose advancement . . . and as Ronnie Regan said: "Trust but verify!"

However, if they are smart, they will not get hung up on trying to "convince investors" and all that shit. The quick way to fame and fortune for them is to build a couple of machines . . . the demo models look as cheap as piss to build, and to then hook them up to the electrical grid and reap the fortune the electricity companies are required by law to pay you . . . . hey, it won't take long to get so bloody rich you wouldn't need "investors" . . . . and you'd sure as hell have proved your point!

And if it is really workable, the electricity companies and mining companies around the world will be beating a path to their doors . . . . you any idea the cost of getting electricity to out-of-the-way mining sites???? It's big dollars This is a winner for that . . . if it works as demonstrated.

Hell, this is such a good way to go, I think I'll go offer my services as adviser!

R

LRH: "Fixed ideas come from uninspected facts."

Until the suppression is lifted off one way or the other, we will never build a
viable space vehicle, for instance, instead of the crude junk we throw up there with crude fuels and even more crude thoughts.

Those thoughts include thin ideas of domination when in fact the ET's from out there just laugh themselves silly at our technical level and see that we are ONLY dominating ourselves to no avail.

When all of this plays out to its amusing and destructive end, only then can we do all of the things we have the power to do.

That includes making friends with our allies who are here right now waiting patiently for our silly, crude, and reactively destructive games to cease.
Current estimate is 2015+.

PS= I have carburetor plans on my shelf using vaporized gasoline bringing the MPG of a 400 cubic inch engine up to 140.

 

[FoTi]

Yep,

When I was about 14 back in Oz, the motorists association equivalent of the Royal Auto Club or American Auto Assoc (AAA) in my home state of NSW, the Nat. Road & Motorists Assoc. (NRMA) published a report in their monthly news mag of test they did of a claimed invention of a pill that when put in a tank of water converted the water into a combustible fluid comparable to gasoline.

It was big news. For the NRMA stated their test confirmed the invention worked.

My father said it would never get to market as the petrol companies would buy it out and keep it off the market . . . he tended to have that pragmatic, negative view of life

Anyhow, I remember AMPOL with Total bought the rights to the compound for the sum of £5,000,000 which was huge money in those days.

My dad was right. The pill never saw the light of day.

Rog

Back in the late 70's there were also a couple of guys that developed a way for a car to run on two hydrogen pellets for 2,000 miles before needing to replace the pellets. They had their car in an auto show in Burbank. Some nice person put a bomb in the car and blew it up at the show....proving this wasn't safe. Think the EPA would ever allow them to do anything with it again? That was the end of their project.

There also was a physicist who went around giving lectures in the late 70's on how to get 50-100 mpg on gasoline. The people who went to the lectures received information on how to do this and went home to apply it to their own cars. This was information on the Pogue Carburator that was used in twin Cadillac engines in the military during - I think it was World War II. The patent on it had expired so he was telling people how to do this. My husband did it on our car...it worked. Another fellow who had a machine shop figured out how to use a pressure cooker with this tech, which was a better way to do it, and rigged it up on a car and he started giving lectures also. People were trying to pass this info around. I was at one of his lectures with my husband when he received a court order to quit what he was doing and a summons to court, right in the middle of his demonstration on the car of how it worked....this was instigated by the EPA. This tech reduced emissions down to almost nothing, but the EPA wouldn't allow it to be used. Guess it cut into the sales on gasoline and wasn't too good for the money guys. This sort of died out after that except for one guy who was still trying and having nothing but trouble in his life.....this tech is not in use anywhere now. The physicist who originally gave the lectures also had a tech on how to pull electricity out of the air with some kind of rod, which would have eliminated the need for paying a bill to an electric company. Unfortunately when he told me and my husband about it, I neglected to get the info from him. He disappeared.

The powers that be on this planet right now do not want you to know anything about anything that will interfere with their income.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

If this is to be "The Poet's Corner", here is a translation of a cheeky favorite.

Invitation: to Fabullus

You’ll dine well, in a few days, with me,

if the gods are kind to you, my dear Fabullus,

and if you bring lots of good food with you,

and don’t come without a pretty girl

and wine and wit and all your laughter.

I say you’ll dine well, and charmingly,

if you bring all that: since your Catullus’s

purse alas is full of cobwebs.

But accept endearments in return for the wine

or whatever’s sweeter and finer:

since I’ll give you a perfume my girl

was given by the Loves and Cupids,

and when you’ve smelt it, you’ll ask the gods

to make you, Fabullus, all nose.

And here is the source version ...

CENABIS bene, mi Fabulle, apud me

paucis, si tibi di fauent, diebus,

si tecum attuleris bonam atque magnam

cenam, non sine candida puella

et uino et sale et omnibus cachinnis.

haec si, inquam, attuleris, uenuste noster,

cenabis bene; nam tui Catulli

plenus sacculus est aranearum.

sed contra accipies meros amores

seu quid suauius elegantiusue est:

nam unguentum dabo, quod meae puellae

donarunt Veneres Cupidinesque,

quod tu cum olfacies, deos rogabis,

totum ut te faciant, Fabulle, nasum.

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Very nice to have charming friends to entertain oneself!

I say you’ll dine well, and charmingly,

if you bring all that: since your Catullus’s

purse alas is full of cobwebs.

But accept endearments in return for the wine

LOL!!! I'm meeting one of my poet friends for dinner tonight, and this seems very appropo! Heh!

 

[afaceinthecrowd]

My 2 sense

One of the greatest boons to the economic well being of the US was the construction of the Interstate Highway system, seeded with DOD funds during the Eisenhower Administration as it was a national security issue.

The technology exists to take a nominal amount of useless land in West Texas and Nevada and power nearly every home, factory and eventually most personal transportation in the US from solar energy. The biggest problem would be re-designing the archaic grid, which is need of replacement anyway.

Nearly all of the remaining energy requirements could be handled efficiently and ecologically by the huge reserves of natural gas within the continental US.

The economic impact to the US over a generation would be staggering.

Sound national security policy has always brought economic benefit.

This is not a business issue, it’s a political issue, a national security issue.

Face

 

[SweetnessandLight]

And now a word for our Lurkers!

Int Base staffers and OSA- Marty is talkin' to you!!!

From Marty Rathbun's blog:

"Know Your Rights
Posted on August 26, 2010 by martyrathbun09| 115 Comments

To: Executives and staff of Int, Gold, OSA, etc

Know your rights.

I know you have heard horrific things about how former staff who left the church with evidence in their possession will be prosecuted . You should know that that is propaganda.

That propaganda is directed to one public and one public alone: YOU.

And it is FALSE PROPAGANDA.

The intent of the propaganda is the same intent behind forcing you to periodically sign five year employment contracts which make you think you have signed your rights to free speech away.

The purpose is to keep you in a state of electrified fear of ever even thinking a negative thought about David Miscavige and his rein of terror, let alone ever doing anything about it.

Now, let’s get to those rights of yours that you probably don’t know about.

In the United States of America, and in most civilized nations, one cannot sign away his or her freedom of speech. The fiats of David Miscavige do not trump the Bill or Rights nor the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Miscavige’s bloviating does not even have the slightest effect upon settled California case law.

So, no matter what you have signed or been told to the contrary, recognize it has no effect upon the following settled law:

If you harbor intentions to leave, and you have a reasonable belief that the church might pursue you in order to coerce you to return to some form of environment where you lack the freedom of movement, speech, or association you have the right to take with you evidence that supports that belief.

If you believe people who were once in your position, who have already left, are being attacked by the church in order to coerce them into giving up any of their rights to free movement, speech or association, you have the right to take with you evidence of infringement of such rights.

If you are leaving because you reasonably believe you have witnessed crimes against persons or acts that have denied people their God-given rights to freedom of speech, movement, or association then you are within your rights to take with you evidence of those crimes and/or denials of Civil and Human Rights.

If any doubt exists as to whether you will be protected should you choose to exercise these rights, I personally guarantee you protection. The legal minds available to protect your rights on the outside make Miscavige’s overpaid criminal cover-up artists look like the pikers they are.

Miscavige is less and less seen by the average staff member because he is figuratively burrowing himself further and further into his Hitlerian bunker. He has good reason to choose his ground hog strategy.

His rein of terror is under intense scrutiny by people who make their lives’ work to end effective slavery and mafia-like intimidation tactics by dictators.

Which leads to the next bit of propaganda you would be ill-served to heed. That is the notion being broadcast within that Miscavige is being hunted by the forces of evil on the planet. Quite the contrary, those investigating him firmly hold to the view that Scientology is a religion entitled to its own protections under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

The fact of the matter is the biggest threat to the viability of those protections for the future is Miscavige’s continuous crimes committed in the name of the religion.

Think about it.

Or, if you cannot confront thoughts along those lines, try not to think about it."

More freedom for all!

 

[Mark A. Baker]

I don't know if Hal Puthoff is still actively researching magnetic power, but down in Austin, for a decade or more, funded by Bill Church (Church's Fried Chicken) it was "any day now"

This distantly reminds me that "commercial fusion power" was promised by the physicists I was at school with "within five years - ten years tops" back when I was studying math at university. That was "unduly optimistic" being over 30 years back.

Significant strides over the years have certainly been made, but they really are nowhere near to developing a practical fusion facility which generates more energy than it consumes.

On the other side of the coin, the physics guys were all convinced that access to fusion power would "solve all the world's problems", hence much of the motivation driving the problem. I used to enjoy arguing this point with them. I simply pointed out that the "world's problems" didn't actually arise from a widespread technical insufficiency. They were instead a result of the nature of humanity. The world has long had access to a level of technology more than adequate to the purpose of arranging a long term, sustainable, progressive, liberal lifestyle for all persons on the planet. Several of them seemed to be shocked at such an idea, as though science & technology were not the ne plus ultra of human existence! More than a few saw and acknowledged the point as valid.

What has been lacking is a sufficiently high level of reason and rationality among humanity which is necessary to sustain the self-restraint, discipline, cooperation, and knowledge needed to pull such an achievement off. A significant part of my continuing interest in auditing tech is that such approaches, fully acknowledging their existing flaws, appear to be the best situated for evolving into the human technologies necessary for achieving such an objective.

When all humans are completely rational, it matters little what form government may take. Similarly, when all humans are not reliably rational, focus on addressing differences in governing style is simply an evasion of the actual problem.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Mark A. Baker]

He predicted that in 2023 a Time Travel Device will arrive. The government already has one at Mountauk Point, Long Island, but I am certain he means it would be an open accepted tech by that point, saying also 2012 will be an initial gradient starting point.

I want access so I can eliminate paul of tarsus.


Mark A. Baker
p.s. and Arminius!

 

[Zinjifar]

I want access so I can eliminate paul of tarsus.


Mark A. Baker
p.s. and Arminius!

Granted. Now you have John of Patmos

Zinj