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lkwdblds

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Puccini goes to Hollywood, movie version. Musetta's Waltz

I have sent this to some special people earlier and posted it on the "Aesthetics" thread too - but, to me, this scene has never, ever, been done better. See what you think girls and boys. I love y'all. Mike


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0V6Bq0jU4Q


Here is a Wikepedia article on the aria, also known as Museta's waltz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quando_me'n_vo'


This gorgeous Puccini aria, "Quando m'en vo" had some real legs and ended up in the musical My Fair Lady and also appeared in American films as in the clip below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAsax7HZYBc&feature=related

Lakey
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Wasn't the GE a sort of degraded entity?

Remember the definition of the GE? "Not dissimilar to the Thetan"

Thetan = no mass, nor wavelength or time"

Does that sound like a body?

As I recall, the G.E. (Genetic Entity) was an entity alright but was a degraded entity of sorts, concentrating entirely on one's body. It had a major focus on bodily pleasures often dealing with food and sex. It had other major functions as well, all having to do with the body. It had its own time track, quite different from the thetan's time track. Thetan's and G.E.'s rarely linked up more than once, the G.E. went from generation to generation, keeping continuity through sperm and egg while the thetan took over bodies run by G.E.'s without regard to who the G.E. was for a given body.

Okay Leon, this is right up your alley. Would you please comment on this!
Lakey
 
Wow, I made it to the 40th page before I had to see how many pages were left. LOL. I felt pretty accomplished, until I clicked last and it took me to the 750th page! Still having trouble finding the info im interested in though.
 
Welcome Clearwater!

Welcome Newbie Clearwater! :) Good job on confronting your feelings of being overwhelmed! :D Yep, this thread has it all. There has been talk of creating an index of sorts, or of collating the historic parts, the tech talk parts, etc.

Don't know what it is you are looking for, but you are free to skip through the music vids, vacation photos, food, baseball and car talk, etc... :) "Skimming" is your friend! :)

No one will test you on any of it, or punish you if you have skipped over a word that you did not understand. :p

I hope you do find what you are looking for, both here and elsewhere.

Give us an idea of what it is, and perhaps there are folks here who may be of some help to you! :yes:
 
Who's the kid with the car?
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my kid. one day, she and some of her coworkers rented (what used to be Sears Point) Infineon Raceway, and spent the day practicing their safe driving skills. No parallel parking, just forward, braking on corners, down shifting, accelerating -- the good stuff.

kids and their toys!

I don't know where they get the idea that speed is fun. When I was a kid, I kept my International Harvester panel truck under 110 MPH no matter where I was.
 
Thanks for the comment on my username, its where I live so I figured it would work out nicely. I am enthralled with reading the stories of the people who have left. Autobiographical writing at its best. Ive been reading stories here since 08, but im now more interested in specifics. I am interested in learning about what exactly all these classes/courses required you to do. Did you sit in a room, and talk to some one, did they talk to you, did they make you do exercises, stuff like that. Basically, what is auditing, how is it done, what does it consist of, how is it supposed to work. Im very interested in the specifics of what you guys were doing. I would love to read a full breakdown on start to finish on some kind of session. I see some of the classes require weeks of study, what exactly were you studying, was it worksheets, some kind of workbook or what? I know you guys dont delve to deep into that stuff because you guys were already there and it requires no explanation. Thanks guys!
 
Thank you! I know im not an Ex SCN, and I dont have any great stories to share, but I appreciate the time you guys spend responding to my noob questions. :thumbsup:
 
Thank you! I know im not an Ex SCN, and I dont have any great stories to share, but I appreciate the time you guys spend responding to my noob questions. :thumbsup:

Provision of hot women, money, & dark chocolate are considered acceptable means of demonstrating appreciation.


Mark A. Baker :)
 

Leon

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As I recall, the G.E. (Genetic Entity) was an entity alright but was a degraded entity of sorts, concentrating entirely on one's body. It had a major focus on bodily pleasures often dealing with food and sex. It had other major functions as well, all having to do with the body. It had its own time track, quite different from the thetan's time track. Thetan's and G.E.'s rarely linked up more than once, the G.E. went from generation to generation, keeping continuity through sperm and egg while the thetan took over bodies run by G.E.'s without regard to who the G.E. was for a given body.

Okay Leon, this is right up your alley. Would you please comment on this!
Lakey



What exactly is the question?
 
Well, it happened again!

Well, it's happened again! This time I was writing about Pepin and Lakey's comments and elaborating on GE and Thetan, drat...

This computer seems to time out with no warning, and I don't know how to save the draft of my post here... :no:

It's 10-10-10 everybody!!! Let's have a party! :happydance:

In Chinese culture 10 signifies completion or wholeness. So I guess we have completed a cycle of some sort, somewhere...:)

Does everybody feel complete? Feel whole? I do, for the moment. :whistling:

(Not gonna let my lack of computer know how get me down!) :thumbsup:

To Clearwater- I'm sure there are people here who can and will answer your questions...meanwhile, there are other threads which might hold many of the answers you are seeking, as well. Use the search feature on the board. Take a gander at Grundy's guide to Scientology, and check out the "Scientologese" glossary which is linked somewhere, it will be useful to you.

Just to get this concept~ there are different "types" of Scientologists who have different experiences. Public Scientologists are students (no matter their age) who pay thier own way up the bridge. (Take lots of classes and self-auditing to reach higher and higher levels of Scientology Certification. This is VERY expensive.) A few of these want to train to be Auditors (like counselors or ministers who work to help others), most just want to become more powerful over their own lives and circumstances.

There are people who can't afford to do so and so work on staff to get discounted training, but who often end up working for very little gain and making very slow progress up their own bridge, as they are working for the Scientology Organization full time and working a "wog" (ordinary) job as well to make ends meet. Some staff want to train to be Auditors, not everyone makes it, as they tend to get put into jobs where they are most needed by the organization.

Then there are people, (now who largely were born into Scientology) who join the Sea Organization, who sign a billion year contract to serve the COS their whole lives in return for room and board, medical care and training (which unfortunately is not alway provided to an adequate level by the COS). These are the folks who seem to be used and abused the most. At the upper reaches of the Sea Org are the executives or management who control all the money and lives in the COS.

Then we have several varieties of Independant and/or Free Zone Scientologists, people who are interested in continuing to study Scientology outside and "Free" from the COS. Some are organized into groups and some are largely working on their own. There is a whole section with threads here on the board where you can learm more about Freezone and Indy Scientologists, including vids of lectures, etc... Sometimes there are conferences and other gatherings, also.

The whole scene of COS has changed drastically over time, so folks who were in the SO twenty or thirty years ago had a very different experience from that which SO folks are having now. The rules have changed, etc. The tech has changed, the literature has changed. The whole enterprise has been in a constant state of flux, and now is trying to change to accomodate our more global society and the information age. It's harder now to control people's access to knowledge and learning than ever before, thanks to the Internet, and our ability to communicate more easily and cheaply with each other across the miles.

Much of the information you seek is here on this board, however it's like a treasure hunt to find it all. We call it threadsurfing! Have fun with it!

Hey- did I mention that we have several very talented and well trained Auditors here on this thread who can answer more "advanced" questions, like Lakey is asking Leon to elaborate on the concept of the nature of "genetic entities" in Scientology. So cool!
 
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Hatshepsut

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Having a creative way to legally reduce employment costs allows them to hire people who otherwise might not have been hired. For part time workers, companies have also hired teenagers who are covered under their parents health insurance, and retirees who are covered under Medicare.

You would prefer the poor remain unemployed?

I'd rather see the feds go after illegal aliens and stop opening the gates to Third World immigration that's driving down wages for low-skill labor.



And the federal government shows little interest in deporting illegal immigrants. The feds now have a new policy where they stop accepting illegals for deportation if they were caught as part of a traffic stop (a large percentage of illegals are detected at traffic stops).

Apples and apples . 37 yrs of being around Disney property has taught me this. Hilton had so many people at one time working with permits expired for years that they almost closed us down. A new owner wanted to come in under the Hilton umbrella and run the property. An assessment was taken of the existing employees. My friend who was from Peru lost her job as she could not fly back to reinstate her work visa which was invalid by 3 yrs earlier. She just went to work next door at another hotel. She had her mom and dad over here. No papers living with her. All together we lost 40 employees that month because it was illegal to have them. They were good people. Most were from South America. The vast amounts arriving from Puerto Rico are already citizens.

In any subsidized Disney 'workers village' the legal residents help their families and friends as any of us would do. New arrivals only need bring a simple paper form with the signature of their sponsor and a valid address to the Florida 'Family' clinic. All benefits start rolling from there. That's where the The problem is so vast that very little attention goes to regulating who gets covered in the household group medically. My friend Vicky brought her mom over from Columbia for cancer treatment. Johnny brought his dad over from Mexico to handle a bad foot from diabetes. Jose brought his mentally handicapped nephew from Guatemala. Herve took in his dad from Hait. Luci had the big red firetruck with all the bells and whistles run to the front entrance 3 different times during one month because she was afraid she was going into contractions. The health insurance these folks had was provided by the govt or they had none at all. Would I deny any of my co_workers that care. HELL NO.!!!!!

But when my very expensive cobra Ins ran out after I had to take a break because of my health, I put everything in another's name . Everything I had woulda been at risk until I had been educated about our medical system's means of backup emergency support.
 
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What is the nature of the genetic entity?

O.K., Let me try this again~~~:nervous:

Thank you Pepin and Lakey for your comments on genetic entity. I was simplifying the concept for those of our lurkers who often are scratching their heads and thinking "what in the hell are they talking about?" :p

I know they are out there because I get pms and email from time to time from them asking questions...Hello 'dere! :wave:

I was oversimplifying and basically translating thetan into the commonly accepted soul or spirit, and GE into body... I'll write more about my take on this later when I have more time...I'm taking both my thetan and my GE off to church!

Love you guys! :happydance:

I think the question Leon, was is the GE in the physical body itself (made of matter as in DNA, built in as part of it's make up), or just controlling it, as in similar to a thetan? The thetan is NOT physical or bound by material (natural laws) and the GE is the physical vessel or vehical for the thetan, until the thetan fully unfolds its consciousness to realize that it doesn't need a body to operate from...

Sorry, in haste, more later.... :flowers2:

Leon, I think this is the question at hand...not to speak for Lakey: What is the nature of the genetic entity?
 
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SchwimmelPuckel

Genuine Meatball
Genetic Entity is similar to what we commonly refer to as dna.. With some embelishment, drama and misunderstoods by Hubbard.

As I recall, the G.E. (Genetic Entity) was an entity alright but was a degraded entity of sorts, concentrating entirely on one's body. It had a major focus on bodily pleasures often dealing with food and sex. It had other major functions as well, all having to do with the body. <snip>
Isn't it astonishing that important and major functions having to do with the body is seen by Hubbard as degraded?

:yes:
 
LOL Schwimmy!

As someone who once or twice in this lifetime couldn't breath...I find breathing autonomically to be a terrifically fabulous and wonderful accomplishment! Not to mention all the other great stuff our bodies regulate for us without our conscious thought dictating it! :thumbsup:

I LOVE and appreciate my body and my GE, whatever we may consider it to be...it's doing a great job for me and I want it to continue doing so for many happy years to come! :clap:

Even if I DO look like Schwimmy! :p :happydance:
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
I agree with you here Schwimmel!

Genetic Entity is similar to what we commonly refer to as dna.. With some embelishment, drama and misunderstoods by Hubbard.

Isn't it astonishing that important and major functions having to do with the body is seen by Hubbard as degraded?

:yes:

Excellent point. Hubbard at first merely de-eemphasized the body, then started taking pot shots at it and for the later part of his life he specialized in degrading it and then not-ising it. He had tremendous overts against his own body as well as those of his staffs, in particular Sea Org Members.

How could a very wealthy man allow his teeth to be all black and decayed in 1968 when he gave that videotaped interview to the BBC reporter on the Apollo? That was bad, but was child's play compared to the rigors which he put his body into in subsequent years.

From his early 60's on, he body was wracked with strokes, high blood pressure, heart attacks, rotten teeth, etc. Why is this considered so OT. It is'nt that he was so elevated as a being that his body was of only very minor concern to him. That is what we active Scientologists were led to believe and I totally bought into it at that time.

My friend Edey, who will turn 60 next week has an extremely healthy body, still very youthful, toned and sexy. She eats Vegan and drinks Gallons of alkaline and ionized water. I watch her stretch and bend forward and put her palms on the floor and then stretch lower where she can almost lay her elbows through wrists flat on the floor with her knees locked straight.

Today's 60 year old woman - my friend Edey

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=1383503821682&set=a.1429166523221.2053534.1054560212

I am learning more about the body at this point in my life. It is an amazing mechanism and piece of machinery. I am nearly 71 and don't have any aches and pains of aging and have 20/20 vision, read without glasses and have perfect and acute hearing as well as the same reflexes I had when I was 35.

One's body is no end all to survive for but it can be our friend and provide many years, perhaps decades more of healthy vibrant livingness to us then what is agreed on by our society. You know, a person gains wisdom as he or she goes through life. Let's say someone attains great wisdom at 60 and dies at 65 and another person attains great wisdom at 60 and dies at 100. Why not put your wisdom to use and enjoy it for 40 years instead of 5 years?

Why not make an effort to take care of one's body. Since our memories tend to be wiped out and our goals reset after body death, it seems to me that it makes sense to maximize one's healty and useful years by being respectful of his own body. LRH saw things differently and look what it got him.
Lakey
 
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