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Do you think that the auto manufacturing cities in Michigan can be brought back to their former sizes if Ford and GM have a major resurgence?
Lakey

no.

GM now sells more cars in China than in the US.

It is a whole new world.

we are in a global economy.

The people on the lower end of the totem pole are in BIG trouble.

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In the United States, the entitlement philosophy of the government has caused people of low work ethic to expect as "rights" such things as color TVs, a roof over their head, food, etc.

***just to make this clear, I am white, of English background***

The white "good deed doers" and the whites of Irish, English, other European stock generally feel that they need to work at desk jobs because they are smart and educated. Soiling their hands with manual labor is beneath them.

Farms from Maine to California survive on illegal Mexican workers. The California State Forestry Service has mainly illegals fighting fires.

If some of these entitled honkies faced starvation and death, they might not be so snotty about work.

My wife and most of my family voted for Obama. We would do it again. McCain wasn't and isn't in present time. Furthermore , he sold out to the Christian right.

Be that as it may, my health insurance has gone up over $400.00 a month, simply because of health care reform. I'm not really thrilled with this.

Taking from the "haves" of the middle class, and giving to the poor and the bureaucrats and giving the rich rich wealthy 1% a tax deduction doesn't thrill me. The Republicans and Democrats of Congress are both equally culpable. Grrrr.

As I see it, the only hope is auditing and training that a groundswell of people (on the grass roots level) use to become smarter, wiser, more pro active, and involved with their communities.

to make it worse, from my viewpoint, there is no paradigm, at the moment of sane auditing and training. The Co$ is an abomination. The Freezone is a joke. EST has become Landmark -- whoopee. There is no benchmark of sanity. This little teeny weenie thread is the sanest strand of sanity that I know which is global. Happy Fucking New Year.
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
Lovely talk by Phil there. Thank you Lakey.

The person he was referring to as having gone clear on Help is Alison Parkhouse. She is/was married to Jack who is mentioned on some of the early PABs; he is the brother of Herbie Parkhouse who was in the G.O. at St Hill.

The course they attended in 1958 where all this happened was the 22nd ACC - The Rock Course - where they hunted for "The Rock" - being the first mest creation of a thetan which he then used as a substitute for himself. So it was the first "body", if you like. They then ran Help on that item found.

BTW the word "rock" was not coined by Hubbard bet by the auditor's working there. This is where the term "rockslam" also comes from.

Now I have known two people who did the Rock auditing on that course and who found their Rocks, and what I always found so interesting is that neither of them seemed to age much. Yes their bodies did change with the years but never in the sense that one would look at them and think "Gosh, she's aged over the last 30 years." They mellowed a bit, and git a bit plumper perhaps, but that youthful glow was always noticeably with them.

Go figure.
 
This is a belated reply to post #511 from page 52 of the Apollo thread, dated 18 Dec, 2009. We have traveled a long way in a year.



The vast majority of ClX11's I have encountered have been obsessed with their "status". How many of them are actually processing nowadays?

I know a few of them meet as the "Council of X11's", but what do they actually DO?

I remember Alex Sibersky as being touted as "the" person to be processed by. Well, if you look in the book of Case Remedies, what does it say about a pc only wahting to be processed by one auditor? It tells you that the auditor EVALUATES for the client.

So, when Alex came to run me on L 12 (btw, he was a friend of mine), he chose to process me, I did not have to pay any "preference" BS to have him.

Anyway in the middle of the session, (about 3 minutes in) he suddenly tries to tell me what I should be thinking about. I stopped the session and said "Alex, this is me you are processing, don't try any of that eval on me". He stopped, blinked and began apologising. I told him to give me the process concept and I ran it by inspection until it was gone.

After the session I went to Art Webb (D of P) and instructed him to cram Alex on auditor evaluation. This was done forthwith.

I remember arriving at Flag. Boy, were they "antsy". Ron Anderson, Public MAA sat in his office, complete with his SO hat on. I sat down and said "I didn't know you were Jewish". He took his hat off. I told him I had come to do L12, was that all ok with him? He assured me it was.

David Light, in the Reg office, tried to bump me for "setups". I told him I had paid for L12 and that is what I was going to receive. Any "set ups" could come out of the hours I had paid for. Did he have a problem with that?

Er, no, everything was simply fine etc. He remembered me from when I had "visited" Boston org on behalf of Sibersky.

All in all, my L12 trip went very smoothly. I was given an upgrade on my room, sessions were scheduled according to my schedule, everyone was very helpful.

Dart

My friend, Ant Phillips, who turned 81 on Dec.31, 2010 is a fundamentalist scientologist. He still audits, mostly daily, friends and others.

He ( and I) subscribe to the basics: handling what the PC is sitting in, NOT doing a lot of admin, not reading every word in the PC folder, not correcting corrections. Just auditing the guy or gal we are talking to.

I am impressed by the body of written words that is "Scientology," and I reject it. It is too much of solution upon solution. By 2011, it has become dumbed down and made politically correct, and perfect diction, and perfect admin. And ethics only for robots.

We deal with people. If you get into ARC with your PC, you can make miracles happen. if you don't, then they are dog PCs. pretty simple.

If you have bought into the complexity of cases, you have already lost the game.

I do not begrudge anyone who bought into the complexity. It was like boiling frogs, an incremental change at a time. auditing is really very simple: Find out what the PC wants as a goal for the session. Help them get it--- in that session!!!!!.
 

Free Being Me

Crusader
no.

GM now sells more cars in China than in the US.

It is a whole new world.

we are in a global economy.

The people on the lower end of the totem pole are in BIG trouble.

picture.php

In the United States, the entitlement philosophy of the government has caused people of low work ethic to expect as "rights" such things as color TVs, a roof over their head, food, etc.

***just to make this clear, I am white, of English background***

The white "good deed doers" and the whites of Irish, English, other European stock generally feel that they need to work at desk jobs because they are smart and educated. Soiling their hands with manual labor is beneath them.

Farms from Maine to California survive on illegal Mexican workers. The California State Forestry Service has mainly illegals fighting fires.

If some of these entitled honkies faced starvation and death, they might not be so snotty about work.

My wife and most of my family voted for Obama. We would do it again. McCain wasn't and isn't in present time. Furthermore , he sold out to the Christian right.

Be that as it may, my health insurance has gone up over $400.00 a month, simply because of health care reform. I'm not really thrilled with this.

Taking from the "haves" of the middle class, and giving to the poor and the bureaucrats and giving the rich rich wealthy 1% a tax deduction doesn't thrill me. The Republicans and Democrats of Congress are both equally culpable. Grrrr.

As I see it, the only hope is auditing and training that a groundswell of people (on the grass roots level) use to become smarter, wiser, more pro active, and involved with their communities.

to make it worse, from my viewpoint, there is no paradigm, at the moment of sane auditing and training. The Co$ is an abomination. The Freezone is a joke. EST has become Landmark -- whoopee. There is no benchmark of sanity. This little teeny weenie thread is the sanest strand of sanity that I know which is global. Happy Fucking New Year.

Auditing and training? Who's might I ask? Under what standard is auditing and training to be implemented? The information about $ci has been widely distributed, not many people are going to be willing to embrace Hubbardism as any solution to societies shortcomings much less a basis for financial improvement. Wouldn't a $ci based education based effort be a reverse of achieving any education at all?

You're certainly entitled to beat the $ci based drum of life if you wish, I'm not judging you for your beliefs. I do question $ci as a solution to problems. The last 61 years have demonstrated a real time enactment, the results aren't favorable.

As a suggestion, how about reforming school systems to teach a well balanced spectrum instead of a politicized platform to create sheeple?
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
no.

....................<snip>

The Republicans and Democrats of Congress are both equally culpable. Grrrr.

As I see it, the only hope is auditing and training that a groundswell of people (on the grass roots level) use to become smarter, wiser, more pro active, and involved with their communities.

to make it worse, from my viewpoint, there is no paradigm, at the moment of sane auditing and training. The Co$ is an abomination. The Freezone is a joke. EST has become Landmark -- whoopee. There is no benchmark of sanity. This little teeny weenie thread is the sanest strand of sanity that I know which is global. Happy Fucking New Year.

Thanks for your reply Carmelo.

Purple Haze is giving a PCA test which is similar in some ways to the OCA. Purp is a pro and knows what she is doing. In a 3 day period, she admistered 4 PCA's plus I got a session from her arising from an item found on my PCA taken a week earlier. Of these 4 PCA's. all were friends of mine, one was a male in my age group who had no prior processing experience and the other 3 had no Scio background but were familiar with New Age type religions and were well versed in psychic phenomena.

All of us, including me, seemed to get something major from doing the PCA and having it evaluated by Purp. I also had a 2 hour full on session from Purp. I will tell more about it soon but not now.

Perhaps a sane method of evaluating and delivering mental and spiritual tech can be derived from first giving and then evaluating PCA tests on people? Any system, including the PCA test must be given with the main intent to help the person taking the test. The monetary aspect is necessary, of course, not just so that the processor can eat and have a roof over her head but also so that the one being processed keeps in their exchange. Sometimes, exchange can be bartered for,

We have come this far, providing this thread with the strong elements of sanity present here. Who is to say that a home base for training and processiong people in sane mental and spiritual technology cannot also arise from this thread?
Lakey
 
Auditing and training? Who's might I ask? Under what standard is auditing and training to be implemented? The information about $ci has been widely distributed, not many people are going to be willing to embrace Hubbardism as any solution to societies shortcomings much less a basis for financial improvement. Wouldn't a $ci based education based effort be a reverse of achieving any education at all?

You're certainly entitled to beat the $ci based drum of life if you wish, I'm not judging you for your beliefs. I do question $ci as a solution to problems. The last 61 years have demonstrated a real time enactment, the results aren't favorable.

As a suggestion, how about reforming school systems to teach a well balanced spectrum instead of a politicized platform to create sheeple?

Free Being,

First let me say, I think you are really cool. Most likely female, and someone I would definitely like to have as a friend.

READ what I said. I think the Cof$ is the devil incarnate. I think the freezone are / is idiocy. UMMm - what I'm sort of saying, and I'm not even saying that I'm saying, is that I've gotten, and have been able to give a whole lot of help to some people based on the culture of the scientology mission that I hung with, the hcobs that I (personally) bought into, the tapes I bought into, and the auditing I did (both got and gave).

I don't have any answers to give you forthright. I do know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that I got more from Sientology auditing and training THAN I COULD HAVE GOTTEN ANYWHERE ELSE.

WHAT SCIENTOLOGY BECAME, I NEVER SAW UNTIL A COUPLE OF YAERS AGO. I left in 1976. It had turned to GREED INCARNATE THEN.

I was really fucked up in 1968. by 1971 I was FLYING. I left in 1976. The group, under Hubbard's fucked up mind went downhill from there. I consider myself lucky.

Somewhere, somehow, someone will codify a technology of the mind and spirit and body that will help many people. Maybe like "Stranger in a Strange Land' it will work . That's what I am working for.

I started the Los Gatos Org in my living room in the san jose suburb of Willow Glen in the early 1970s. I sold it to Alan Albert, who has since committed suicide because his wife of many decades divorced him (he sold it to Joey Alesandrini) because he left the Co$ and she didn't.

I have as many personal issues with the Co$ that you or anyone else has. I also have a looooong track record of really actually helping people (individuals) by auditing. Not Co$ auditing, but auditing, my brand, my personal take on whatever works, for decades. Nothing that I've written down. Nothing I've promoted.

This is a personal message to Free Being; call me. let's chat. I don't have an agenda. At this point, regarding scientology and the freezone, i don't give a fuck. I have seen that you are smarter that the average bear, and I know, as a gut level feeling, that I really like you.
 
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FoTi

Crusader
Carmelo, this post is very interesting to me. I have followed census figures and tracked this type of stuff since I was a teenager. Everything you say is correct plus I have learned much that is new from your article. Even so, however, there is one nuance that you have not touched on.

FLIGHT OUT OF THE BIG CITY AND INTO THE SUBURBS
I know that in the 1950 census, Cleveland Ohio was the 5th or 6th largest city in the USA behind New York City, 7.8 million, Chicago, 3.6 million, L.A. 1.97 million and Detroit 1.8 milliion. Cleveland and Baltimore were running 5th and 6th, both in the 900.000 range. I forget which one was larger but they were close. Now, at 431,000, Cleveland is not even on the charts. Long Beach, California at about 490,000 is larger than Cleveland!

However, not necessarily all of Cleveland's loss is to distant parts of the country, far from it. If you look at Cayuhoga County, where Cleveland is the County seat, its population has been getting larger. The census bureau tracks not only the cities but the Greater Metropolitan Statistical Areas as well and in places such as Cleveland and Dayton in Ohio, usually the counties and the Metro areas have continued to grow, even though the central cities have shrunk.

Now you take something like Flint, Michigan, in the auto manufacturing belt, and that will not be the case. With the big 3 automakers taking a bath in recent years and playing second fiddle to the Japanese and European manufacturers, who are building their American plants mainly in the Southern states, any city relying on American auto manufacturing is going to be shrinking and losing population out of their cities and also their counties and Metro areas.

Ford has been doing very well the last two years or so and has improved their quality to Japanese standards and his fielded a very successful line of cars of late and GM, emerging from bankruptcy, has recently exhibited a lot of resurgence and a much more attractive line of cars. They also, like Ford, seem to be on a mission to recapture much of their lost glory. Their new electric car, the Volt, is introducing new state of the art hybrid electric and gas technology that no one else has and if this is as successful as it looks like it is going to be, it is major enough to restore GM to its former glory. Volt technology is capable of achieving something like the equivalent of 93 miles per gallon when used as recommended while the buyer gives up very little in amenities when he switches to a Volt. To achieve mileage in this range, it is only necessary that the majority of a person's driving during the day be 40 miles or less. In this manner, they will use electric power only and can recharge the batteries at home during the night. If they do long range driving, there is enough gasoline capacity for another 300 miles, yielding a total range of 340 miles. In this mode, the Volt will still achieve around 50 mpg.

Do you think that the auto manufacturing cities in Michigan can be brought back to their former sizes if Ford and GM have a major resurgence?
Lakey

If a person drives 20 miles to work and 20 miles home again and recharges their Volt overnight, what kind of an electric bill are they going to have?
 

Free Being Me

Crusader
<snip>.As I see it, the only hope is auditing and training that a groundswell of people (on the grass roots level) use to become smarter, wiser, more pro active, and involved with their communities.

to make it worse, from my viewpoint, there is no paradigm, at the moment of sane auditing and training. The Co$ is an abomination. The Freezone is a joke. EST has become Landmark -- whoopee. There is no benchmark of sanity. This little teeny weenie thread is the sanest strand of sanity that I know which is global. Happy Fucking New Year.<snip>

Auditing and training? Who's might I ask? Under what standard is auditing and training to be implemented? The information about $ci has been widely distributed, not many people are going to be willing to embrace Hubbardism as any solution to societies shortcomings much less a basis for financial improvement. Wouldn't a $ci based education based effort be a reverse of achieving any education at all?

You're certainly entitled to beat the $ci based drum of life if you wish, I'm not judging you for your beliefs. I do question $ci as a solution to problems. The last 61 years have demonstrated a real time enactment, the results aren't favorable.

As a suggestion, how about reforming school systems to teach a well balanced spectrum instead of a politicized platform to create sheeple?

Free Being,

First let me say, I think you are really cool. Most likely female, and someone I would definitely like to have as a friend.

READ what I said. I think the Cof$ is the devil incarnate. I think the freezone are / is idiocy. UMMm - what I'm sort of saying, and I'm not even saying that I'm saying, is that I've gotten, and have been able to give a whole lot of help to some people based on the culture of the scientology mission hat I hung with, the hcobs that I (personally) bought into, the tapes I bought into, and the auditing I did (both got and gave).

I don't have any answers to give you forthright. I do know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that I got more from Sientology auditing and training THAN I COULD HAVE GOTTEN ANYWHERE ELSE.

WHAT SCIENTOLOGY BECAME, I NEVER SAW UNTIL A COUPLE OF YAERS AGO. I left in 1976. It had turned to GREED INCARNATE THEN.

I was really fucked up in 1968. by 1971 I was FLYING. I left in 1976. The group, under Hubbard's fucked up mind went downhill from there. I consider myself lucky.

Somewhere, somehow, someone will codify a technology of the mind and spirit and body that will help many people. Maybe like "Stranger in a Strange Land' it will work . That's what I am working for.

My cell phone number is (650) 906-6286. My name is Ed Berwick. I live in Los Altos, CA, USA. (Silicon Valley). I started the Los Gatos Org in my living room in the san jose suburb of Willow Glen in the early 1970s. i sold it to Alan Albert, who has since committed suicide because his wife of many decades divorced him (he sold it to Joey Alesandrini) because he left the Co$ and she didn't.

I have as many personal issues with the Co$ that you or anyone else has. I also have a looooong track record of really actually helping people (individuals) by auditing. Not Co$ auditing, but auditing, my brand, my personal take on whatever works, for decades. Nothing that I've written down. Nothing I've promoted.

This is a personal message to Free Being; call me. let's chat. I don't have an agenda. At this point, regarding scientology and the freezone, i don't give a fuck. I have seen that you are smarter that the average bear, and I know, as a gut level feeling, that I really like you.

The above snipped quote is what I was responding to re auditing and training (in bold). I'm not a fan of a Hubbardarian Mythos either. I'm puzzled though that an individual personal brand of $ci based on what has brought so much hurt and harm to others is an answer. Never mind, just enjoying the paradox. I apologize for the derailment. P.S. I'm not female :dieslaughing:
 
The above snipped quote is what I was responding to re auditing and training (in bold). I'm not a fan of a Hubbardarian Mythos either. I'm puzzled though that an individual personal brand of $ci based on what has brought so much hurt and harm to others is an answer. Never mind, just enjoying the paradox. I apologize for the derailment. P.S. I'm not female :dieslaughing:

Basically to boil it all down. i think the world is in big trouble.

i've seen some ( my own and friends') auditing and training help others to be smarter, act quicker, create better.

Some auditing and training is of value.

Do I have anyone -- I MEAN ANYONE---- who I would recommend anyone else to? NO

I think that that is a real fucking bummer.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
If a person drives 20 miles to work and 20 miles home again and recharges their Volt overnight, what kind of an electric bill are they going to have?

FoTi - Their electrical cost is already factored in to the 93 miles per gallon. I got these figures out of Motor Trend magazine. I believe it is in the most recent issue, Jan, 2011 or if not that it is in Dec 2010.

You see, FoTi, if the person only drives twenty miles to work each day and twenty miles home, they will consume no gasoline whatsoever. Yet the article does not claim infinite miles per gallon but only 93 miles per gallon. They come up with the 93 mph figure by fiiguring gas at $3.50 per gallon.

Let's say a person does the 40 mile trip 5 times a week which is 200 miles a week plus 3 more days in a 31 day month. This equates to 920 miles for the entire month. If the person's car used gasoline and got 93 mph, he or she would consume just about 10 gallons of fuel and at $3.50 per gallon, that would work out to about $35 in that month. Therefore, the Volt uses up about $35 in electricity for the month which is the answer to the question you asked. Whatever their bill normally is, it would now be $35 higher but to more than offset that, they would save $92 on gasoline.
Lakey
 

Leon

Gold Meritorious Patron
My friend, Ant Phillips, who turned 81 on Dec.31, 2010 is a fundamentalist scientologist. He still audits, mostly daily, friends and others.

He ( and I) subscribe to the basics: handling what the PC is sitting in, NOT doing a lot of admin, not reading every word in the PC folder, not correcting corrections. Just auditing the guy or gal we are talking to.

I am impressed by the body of written words that is "Scientology," and I reject it. It is too much of solution upon solution. By 2011, it has become dumbed down and made politically correct, and perfect diction, and perfect admin. And ethics only for robots.

We deal with people. If you get into ARC with your PC, you can make miracles happen. if you don't, then they are dog PCs. pretty simple.

If you have bought into the complexity of cases, you have already lost the game.

I do not begrudge anyone who bought into the complexity. It was like boiling frogs, an incremental change at a time. auditing is really very simple: Find out what the PC wants as a goal for the session. Help them get it--- in that session!!!!!.


This ^^^^^^^ :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: NOW you're talking my language!
 
Lovely talk by Phil there. Thank you Lakey.

The person he was referring to as having gone clear on Help is Alison Parkhouse. She is/was married to Jack who is mentioned on some of the early PABs; he is the brother of Herbie Parkhouse who was in the G.O. at St Hill.

The course they attended in 1958 where all this happened was the 22nd ACC - The Rock Course - where they hunted for "The Rock" - being the first mest creation of a thetan which he then used as a substitute for himself. So it was the first "body", if you like. They then ran Help on that item found.

BTW the word "rock" was not coined by Hubbard bet by the auditor's working there. This is where the term "rockslam" also comes from.

Now I have known two people who did the Rock auditing on that course and who found their Rocks, and what I always found so interesting is that neither of them seemed to age much. Yes their bodies did change with the years but never in the sense that one would look at them and think "Gosh, she's aged over the last 30 years." They mellowed a bit, and git a bit plumper perhaps, but that youthful glow was always noticeably with them.

Go figure.

Just some mild comments;

I was talking to Ant Phillips in Denmark, my other night, his other morning. He had just turned 81. the weather where he lives is -1 (centigrade). he isn't riding his bicycle for fear of falling, but he still runs and walks and does Ti Chi in the cold.

Phil is going to turn 80 this year. He plays tennis competitively with guys in their 40s. rides his bicycles for miles. leads a normal life, teaches school in a very competitive district.
 
Thank you Face for your unique participation on this thread. Your role was in

Carmerlo, your article on Mexico is intriguing. I could probably live there like a king just on my Social Security stipend. As a 26 year old, I traveled in Mexico and fell in love with the City of Taxco. It was then a small city of about 25,000 nestled in the mountains at about 6,000 ft. altitude with a large cathedral befitting a city ten times its size. The city is known as a center for silver goods and also leather goods. Back in 1966, the streets were running free with pigs and chickens and the people were totally friendly and mostly in spirit of play.

My Hotel welcomed us with a banquet which actually featured a cooked pig with an apple in its mouth. We hotel guests dined on this sumptious banquet buffet style in an all you can eat set up while a small group of musicians serenaded us mariachi style with lovely Mexican and Spanish music.

Some 18 year old young man who spoke good English, offered to be my guide and tour the city with me for a ridiculously low fee of $5. I went to his favorite hang outs; I remember a coffee house where all his friends gathered and watching two of his friends play chess. I was only 26 and he introduced me to his friends including several beautiful lady friends. I was tempted to stay but the logistics would have been difficult and I had my job at IBM to return to so I decided not to stay. As the Lakey of today, I would take an extra few days vacation from work, change my plane tickets and stay in Taxco a extra few days. Had I done so, I'll bet that I would have made some long term friends and gone back to visit them over the years. I have never forgotten that wonderful city and have always longed to return.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotos-g150803-Taxco_Pacific_Coast.html

Taxco looks beautiful. a neighbor of ours used to go there every year.

i posted the Mexico thing because there are a lot of people, who have lost a good deal of their savings to Scientology and to the economic collapse. I think Mexico is one way of living high on the hog with not very much money.

I like Mexico. The people are really down to the core friendly.
 
When I was twenty through twenty-four, my girl friend, (we lived together) always wore Chanel No.5. I've loved the subtle olfactory flavor ever since. When our youngest daughter reached a certain age, on her birthday, I took her to Nordstom in the City, and bought her a bottle of Chanel No.5.







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you can hear this story from NPR at

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/01/132480988/the-enduring-allure-of-chanel-no-5


January 1, 2011
The Chanel boutique, at 31 Rue Cambon in the heart of Paris, is a glittering shrine to fashion and fragrance. And that fragrance, of course, is Chanel No. 5, the world's most famous perfume.

Supposedly, someone somewhere in the world buys a bottle every 30 seconds. Marilyn Monroe notoriously claimed to wear nothing to bed but a few drops of Chanel No. 5.

Cultural historian Tilar Mazzeo has written a new book about this legendary scent, The Secret of Chanel No. 5: The Intimate History of the World's Most Famous Perfume.

The world knows Coco Chanel as the inventor of the little black dress, the embodiment of style and luxury. But Mazzeo tells NPR's Jacki Lyden that you can find the earliest inspirations for her perfume in her unlikely childhood. Chanel was abandoned by her parents at an austere medieval convent in southwestern France.


The Secret of Chanel No. 5: The Intimate History of the World's Most Famous Perfume
By Tilar Mazzeo
Hardcover, 304 pages
Harper
List Price: $25.99
Read An Excerpt

The Smell Of Clean

"There are two things about the convent that are very, very important for her, I think," Mazzeo says. "Because it's Cistercian, and the Cistercians believed in the symbolism of numbers, the number five was all around her."

Mazzeo says that mystical belief in numbers was at the root of Chanel's obsession with the number five, a number that she considered lucky all her life.

And more important, the convent gave young Coco Chanel a deep appreciation for the simple scent of cleanliness, of fresh laundry and scrubbed skin.

"I think that also was a register of cleanliness that really influenced her interest in scent," says Mazzeo.

When Chanel set out to invent her perfume, she was living as a kept woman with a succession of rich lovers. By the conventions of the day, that meant heavy, exotic scents like jasmine and musk.

"If you wore jasmine, you were a racy lady," says Mazzeo. "What a respectable young lady would wear would be rose or violet."

But Chanel thought women shouldn't smell like flowers; they should smell like women. So she designed a scent that married sensual jasmine and musk with new fragrance chemicals called aldehydes that created the clean laundry smell she remembered from the convent.

The combination was revolutionary at the time — and it remains a best-seller even now, 90 years after Coco Chanel first put the tester bottle to her nose.

Excerpt: 'The Secret Of Chanel No. 5'
by TILAR MAZZEO


The Secret of Chanel No. 5: The Intimate History of the World's Most Famous Perfume
By Tilar Mazzeo
Hardcover, 304 pages
Harper
List Price: $25.99
One: Aubazine And The Secret Code Of Scent

For the better part a century, the scent of Chanel No. 5 has been a sultry whisper that says we are in the presence of something rich and sensuous. It's the quiet rustle of elegant self-indulgence, the scent of a world that is splendidly and beautifully opulent. And, at nearly four hundred dollars an ounce, it's no wonder Chanel No. 5 suggests nothing in our minds so much as the idea of luxury.

It's a powerful association. Chanel No. 5 is sumptuous. In fact, the story of this famous scent is the tale of how a singular perfume captured precisely the fast-living and carefree spirit of the young and the rich in the Roaring Twenties — and of how it went on to capture the world's imagination and desires. Chanel No. 5, from the moment of its first great heyday, was the scent of beautiful extravagance.

The originas of the perfume and its creator, however, could no have been more different from all of this. Indeed, part of the complexity of telling Chanel No. 5's history is the great divide between how we think of this iconic perfume and the place where it began. Chanel No. 5 calls to mind all that is rich and lovely. It's surprising to think that it started in a place that was the antithesis of what would later come to define it. The truth is that the fragrance that epitomizes all those worldly pleasures began with miserable impoverishment and amid the most staggering kinds of losses.

Gabrielle Chanel's peasant roots went deep into the earth of provincial southwestern France, and, in 1895, her mother, Jeanne Chanel — worn out by work and childbirth — succumbed to the tuberculosis that had slowly destroyed her. The disease spread quickly in the wet and cold conditions of the rural provinces, and in the nineteenth century it was called "consumption" for a reason. It ate away at the health of its victems from the inside, corrupting the lungs hopelessly and painfully. Gabrielle — named after the nun who delivered her — and her four surviving brothers and sisters had watched it all. She was just twelve years old at the time of her mother's death.

Her father, Albert, was an itinerant peddler, and perhaps he simply had no idea how to care for five yound children. Perhaps he didn't particularly care. He had about him a rakish charm and a lifelong knack for dodging responsibility. Whatever the case, in the span of only a few weeks, the young Gabrielle would also lose her second parent. The boys were sent out to work and to make their way in the world as best they could. Albert loaded his three daughters into a wagon without explanation and abandoned them at an orphanage in a rural hillside town in Correze, at a convent abbey known as Aubazine.

It was there that the girl who would become known around the world simply as Coco grew up a charity-case orphan. It was a profound desertion, and the wounds of loss and abandonment were themes that would become as entwined in the story of Chanel No. 5 as they were in Coco's. They formed an emotional register that would shape the history of the world's most famous perfume and Coco Chanel's often complicated relationship to it.

Today, the abbey at Aubazine remains much as it was during her hard and lonely girlhood. Indeed, it remains much as it was during the twelfth century, when the saint Etienne d'Obazine — as his name was rendered in the original Latin — founded it. During their time at the orphanage, Coco Chanel and the other girls were assigned to read and reread the story of his exemplary life, and the unrelenting dullness of his good deeds is crushing.

The saintly Etienne, however, had a keen sense of aesthetics at a moment when Western culture's ideas about beauty and proportion were in radical transition. He and the monks who followed him to this wilderness in a remote corner of southwestern France were members of a new and rapidly growing Cistercian clerical order, which prized nothing no much as a life and an art of elemental simplicity. Etienne's isolated retreat from the world at Aubazine was — and remains — a space of echoing austere grandeur.

The road from the valley that winds up to Aubazine is steep and narrow, and the forests slant down sharply into long ravines. At the summit, there is nothing more than a small village, with a cluster of low stone buildings, a few shops, and quiet houses overshadowed by the looming presence of one of France's great medieval abbeys. By middle of the nineteenth century, it had been transformed from a monastery into a convent orphanage for girls. For the children who lived there, it was a youth of hard work and strict discipline and, fortunately for the future prospects of the young Gabrielle, much of it focused on clothing. There was nothing luxurious about it, however. Days were spent washing laundry and mending, and it was here that she learned, of course, to sew.

Coco Chanel once later said that fashion was architecture, and the architecture she meant was based on this convent home, with its brutally clean lines and the stark beauty of simple contrasts. The connection has never been fully explored in any of the books have been written on Coco Chanel's revolutionary fashions. Perhaps the first person to recognize Aubazine's profound importance was Coco Chanel's biographer, Edmonde Charles-Roux, who was one of the few people to know the story of this lonely childhood. She mentions it in passing. Thinking of Aubazine and Gabrielle's longing for a certain kind of starkness, Charles-Roux always believed that:

Whenever [Coco] began yearning for austerity, for the ultimate in cleanliness, for faces scrubbed with yellow soap; or waxed nostalgic for all things white, simple and clear, for linen piled high in cupboards, whitewashed walls … one had to understand that she was speaking in a secret code, and that every work she uttered meant only one word. Aubazine.

It was at the heart of Coco Chanel's aesthetics — her obsession with purity and minimalism. It would shape the dresses she designed and the way she lived. It would shape Chanel No. 5, her great olfactory creation, no less profoundly.

Excerpted from The Secret of Chanel No. 5: The Intimate History of the World's Most Famous Perfume by Tilar Mazzeo. Copyright 2010 by Tilar Mazzeo. Excerpted by permission of Harper.
 

lkwdblds

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You must have had me in mind when you wrote this.

Taxco looks beautiful. a neighbor of ours used to go there every year.

i posted the Mexico thing because there are a lot of people, who have lost a good deal of their savings to Scientology and to the economic collapse. I think Mexico is one way of living high on the hog with not very much money.

I like Mexico. The people are really down to the core friendly.

Carmelo - Your sentence highlighted in blue above describes me to a tee. I also mirror your views of the Mexican people.

Sticking around here, I am looking at various ways to generate income. My choices are: Tutor math to high school and jr. college students, give massages, sell ionized water machines, do occasional construction jobs
for friends or referrals

There is now a new possibility, working with Purple Haze, getting trained to deliver those PCA tests and do the handlings which they require. How about that, two ex staff at CCLA who barely knew each other 39 years ago, becomming good friends and work associates half a lifetime later.

Working with Purp would be my preferred choice since it aligns the most with my basic goal of helping people. Right now it is just in an exploratory phase. She is an amazing person to work with. I have never been around anyone with as much energy as she has. I am learning much from her as I assist her.

BTW - I enjoyed your dialogue with Free Being. You did an excellent job of stating your position. You said it much better than I ever could. The bottom line is very simple. Just because Hubbard was involved with something does not mean that the something has to be thrown out in the trash. The test is whether or not it works to help people when applied to them. If it doesn't, it should be discarded but if it does, then it should be used. It really is that simple.

I applaud you greatly for the many years of successful auditing you have provided to people. As Leon just concurred above, your approach, to find out what the person wants in session and then deliver it to him/her, whatever it takes, should be what auditing is all about and where the main emphasis must lie. The other things such as tone and lilt of voice, extensive admin and red tape procedures should be very secondary. A certain amount of admin should be present and can be very important but admin is not an end in itself.
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Hatshepsut

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When I was twenty through twenty-four, my girl friend, (we lived together) always wore Chanel No.5. I've loved the subtle olfactory flavor ever since. When our youngest daughter reached a certain age, on her birthday, I took her to Nordstom in the City, and bought her a bottle of Chanel No.5.







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you can hear this story from NPR at

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/01/132480988/the-enduring-allure-of-chanel-no-5


January 1, 2011
The Chanel boutique, at 31 Rue Cambon in the heart of Paris, is a glittering shrine to fashion and fragrance. And that fragrance, of course, is Chanel No. 5, the world's most famous perfume.

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FoTi

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FoTi - Their electrical cost is already factored in to the 93 miles per gallon. I got these figures out of Motor Trend magazine. I believe it is in the most recent issue, Jan, 2011 or if not that it is in Dec 2010.

You see, FoTi, if the person only drives twenty miles to work each day and twenty miles home, they will consume no gasoline whatsoever. Yet the article does not claim infinite miles per gallon but only 93 miles per gallon. They come up with the 93 mph figure by fiiguring gas at $3.50 per gallon.

Let's say a person does the 40 mile trip 5 times a week which is 200 miles a week plus 3 more days in a 31 day month. This equates to 920 miles for the entire month. If the person's car used gasoline and got 93 mph, he or she would consume just about 10 gallons of fuel and at $3.50 per gallon, that would work out to about $35 in that month. Therefore, the Volt uses up about $35 in electricity for the month which is the answer to the question you asked. Whatever their bill normally is, it would now be $35 higher but to more than offset that, they would save $92 on gasoline.
Lakey

That's quite a savings. So it's little over $1.00 a day to drive 40 miles? I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around that, since it costs me about twice that just for the electric bill in my apartment for 4 flourescent light bulbs, my laptop, heating up a couple of meals for one person and very little heat now and then.

So if a person drives 920 miles in a month that would be 15 1/3 straight hours of driving at 60mph for $35 electricity or 23 straight hours of driving at 40mph for $35.00. That means that it only costs $1.43 worth of electricity to drive an automobile for an hour at 40mph or about $2.00 for an hour at 60mph. It just seems to me like it would take a lot more juice to run a car than that. Somehow this doesn't seem to make sense to me. Would $1.43 worth of electricity really run an automobile at 40mph for an hour or $2.00 worth of electricity run an automobile at 60mph for an hour?

How big is the car? Is it one of those little one or two seaters or a bigger car?

Anyway if someone can drive their car for 40 miles during the day and juice it up for $1.43 at home at night, that's a hell of a deal.

I guess the oil companies will have to jack up their prices to compensate for the loss of sales in gasoline as there are more and more of these electric cars.

And I wonder how it's going to affect the larger cities like L.A. that have blackouts in the summer with all the air conditioners running. There will have to be some way to deliver more electricity to the area if a lot of people in the city end up with these cars sucking juice. Maybe someone will come up with a better way to harness solar power to use with this.

It sure would be nice if the cars in L.A. were run on electricity instead of gasoline. Just think how much better the air would be. L.A. is really nice on the days when there is no smog, which is pretty rare.

If the car manufacturers would adopt the Pogue Carburator, it would also help with the polution a lot, but the oil companies are sitting on that one.
 
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