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The Virtue of Selfishness

I'm making the comment below based on a post by Synthia tonight on another thread. I put it here because I didn't want to distract the Debbie Cook thread the post appeared in.

Can't say I can argue with you here. I really need to examine how I feel about all of this exactly.

Just because I am against the cult doesn't mean I am for efforts to reform it. I just absolutely hate to watch the church getting away with its thuggery but, is it really capable of becoming a kinder, gentler organization as long as it runs off LRH's policies where an enemy was seen around every corner?

Truth is, if someone came and asked me for a donation to the C of S, I would tell them to go jump in a lake.

My husband worked for 25 years straight for the church, during his most formative years where he should have been building a better future. His average W-2 over the 25 years was $6,000/year. That's $115.00 per week before taxes and he had to pay for his own rent, food, clothes, etc. which SO members don't have to pay. In addition, no one was cooking his food and doing his dishes, grocery shopping, laundry, etc.

I'm sure he had less disposable income than Debbie or any other SO member. He gave them 25 years of full-time service 9 am-10:30 pm most of those years. He got NOTHING when he left, not even a thank you.

Still, I think I'm going to help Debbie but, I am done wrapping my life and my attention around this atrocious cult. Both my husband and I have a lot of time to make up. So, even though I am still going to contribute to this motion, I am not going to get all wound up in it.


Back in the summer of 1965, when I was 14, in the general store in Camp Curry in Yosemite Valley, I found a little paperback book, The Virtue of Selfishness by Ayn Rand. I was already on board Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley, Jr.'s political train. Ayn Rand was a welcome addition to my reading material. What she had to say resonated very deeply with me.

If you're on an airplane and the oxygen masks come down. They tell you to put yours on FIRST. Then help someone else.

If you have a job to do, it's probably a better idea to get it done first before you go to a movie.

Back in the early 1970s, when I was single I worked in Scientology for $80 - 100 a week.

When it was my own Scientology center, I plowed the money back in and didn't take more than $50 a week, but I had a day job that paid $25 an hour. I took care of me first. I bought a house, I fixed it up. Wallpaper, wiring, insulation, trees, flowers - none of those things come free.

When my wife and I got together, it was summer heading into fall. She was married to a guy, who ran a Scientology center. One week after we went on a date, we moved in together. She took the kids, four boys aged 3 through 14. School was starting, I took the boys out to Macy*s and bought them "back to school" clothing. It was close to $500 in one shopping expedition.

Somehow (go figure), because I was disaffected from Scientology, money stopped flowing from the kids' dad.It stopped dead in the tracks, (and never restarted flowing, even when he left the Co$, 3 or 4 years later).

They were being raised by an auditor, a briefing course grad, (me) who didn't buy the juju anymore. And... the kids' momma, my girl friend, a Class Vlll, was also not feeling warm and fuzzy about the church trying to shake her down for 10% of her school's gross income. She had, and still has, a K-12 private school that she started, ran, and now is only chairman of the board. I think our united, tho unstated, opinion of the Co$, was "fuck 'em."

Money is the mothers' milk of families. In short order, we had kids in ballet, gymnastics, soccer, musical theater. Singing lessons, acting lessons, sports - all cost money. Food costs money. We used to go to Safeway (in the 70s) every Sunday, and fill two shopping carts. We never got out of there for less than $250. Five kids eat. Usually their friends ate too. One winter, I gathered fallen trees, and cut them up with my chain saw, then split them with a wedge and a sledgehammer. It was cheap heat.

Even when we were poor as church mice, during the recession around 1980, we managed to take the kids on a train trip across the country from San Jose to Washington, D.C, and back through Chicago, and then the Empire Builder across Montana to Seattle and then down the west coast to San Jose and home.

It radically disturbs me that the "church" that I helped build became so money hungry and depraved. I find it so upsetting just reading what Synthia wrote above about her husband's wages, that I just want to DESTROY that lying, greedy, monolithic black hole.

It really makes me angry.

As Dolly Levy (in Hello Dolly) said, "Money is like fertilizer, it isn't worth anything, until it's put to use encouraging young things to grow." (I paraphrased, I don't remember exactly)

Money buys security. if you're reading this, and you work for Scientology, please walk out the door now. Quit. get a real job. Get a life. Have some kids. Buy a house, See the world. Get out. Get out now!
 
Re: The old days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973

Jack Benny with salesmen at Christmas

[video=youtube;kZvZI-TlSso]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZvZI-TlSso[/video]

Going back to our roots! Jack Benny was one of the first topics we started talking about when the thread moved away from my CCLA story and began taking on our current format, circa November of 2009.

It is hard to believe how good and how funny Jack was! He was a one of a kind original. There never has been another comedian who was anything like him. His era featured a lot of "originals". Groucho Marx, Jimmy Durante, Jacky Gleason, and a bit later, Johnny Carson come to mind.

The things that he was known for are simple but they became part of the fabric of society:
Never aging beyond age 39.
Being a tightwad with his money.
Driving a WWI vintage Maxwell automobile.
Creating his own radio and TV family - Mary Livingstone, Rochester, Don Wilson, Dennis Day, Phil Harris. Several comedians such as Howard Stern have copied this.
Being a mediocre violin player.
His dialogues and skits with Mel Blanc.

BTW, he was really a pretty decent violin player. Check out this performance he did with the L.A. Philharmonic where he and Isaac Stern played the Bach Concerto for 2 violins. There are gags until about 2:20 when the serious music starts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EofKXc-EOo

Not too shabby!

How about the Mel Blanc skit at the train station - one of his best. Here's Jack and Mel Blanc on the Johnny Carson show - 3 immortals all at one time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ6-y_aMLhw

Lakey
 
Johnny being roasted

[video=youtube;NfTgzZb-VVs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfTgzZb-VVs&NR=1&feature=endscreen[/video]

[video=youtube;lqmB1uVSFm0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqmB1uVSFm0&feature=endscreen&NR=1[/video]

[video=youtube;BbeWQcc_6UY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbeWQcc_6UY&feature=related[/video]

God, I miss Johnny!
 
Good Roads, Fair Weather

Here is a dictated letter from an old, former slave to his former master. The simply stated, near-deadpan letter serves as a good example of how to compose a response to recruiters, registrars, call-in personnel, etc. representing CoS. You will note that the letter contains "standard tech" of "good roads, fair weather," states nothing but the truth, and asks for "fair exchange" as evidence of intent. This is all very in-tech and on-policy. The parallels between cotton-picking slavery and enforced CoS servitude are spooky.

From www.huffingtonpost.com/

In the summer of 1865, a former slave by the name of Jourdan Anderson sent a letter to his former master. And 147 years later, the document reads as richly as it must have back then.

The roughly 800-word letter, which has resurfaced via various blogs, websites, Twitter and Facebook, is a response to a missive from Colonel P.H. Anderson, Jourdan's former master back in Big Spring, Tennessee. Apparently, Col. Anderson had written Jourdan asking him to come on back to the big house to work.

In a tone that could be described either as "impressively measured" or "the deadest of deadpan comedy," the former slave, in the most genteel manner, basically tells the old slave master to kiss his rear end. He laments his being shot at by Col. Anderson when he fled slavery, the mistreatment of his children and that there "was never pay-day for the Negroes any more than for the horses and cows."

Below is Jourdan’s letter in full, as it appears on lettersofnote.com. To take a look at what appears to be a scan of the original letter, which appeared in an August 22, 1865 edition of the New York Daily Tribune, click here. As Letters Of Note points out, the newspaper account makes clear that the letter was dictated.

Dayton, Ohio,
August 7, 1865

To My Old Master, Colonel P.H. Anderson, Big Spring, Tennessee

Sir: I got your letter, and was glad to find that you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this, for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Colonel Martin's to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living.

It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again, and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me that Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.

I want to know particularly what the good chance is you propose to give me. I am doing tolerably well here. I get twenty-five dollars a month, with victuals and clothing; have a comfortable home for Mandy,—the folks call her Mrs. Anderson,—and the children—Milly, Jane, and Grundy—go to school and are learning well. The teacher says Grundy has a head for a preacher. They go to Sunday school, and Mandy and me attend church regularly. We are kindly treated. Sometimes we overhear others saying, "Them colored people were slaves" down in Tennessee. The children feel hurt when they hear such remarks; but I tell them it was no disgrace in Tennessee to belong to Colonel Anderson. Many darkeys would have been proud, as I used to be, to call you master. Now if you will write and say what wages you will give me, I will be better able to decide whether it would be to my advantage to move back again.

As to my freedom, which you say I can have, there is nothing to be gained on that score, as I got my free papers in 1864 from the Provost-Marshal-General of the Department of Nashville. Mandy says she would be afraid to go back without some proof that you were disposed to treat us justly and kindly; and we have concluded to test your sincerity by asking you to send us our wages for the time we served you. This will make us forget and forgive old scores, and rely on your justice and friendship in the future. I served you faithfully for thirty-two years, and Mandy twenty years. At twenty-five dollars a month for me, and two dollars a week for Mandy, our earnings would amount to eleven thousand six hundred and eighty dollars. Add to this the interest for the time our wages have been kept back, and deduct what you paid for our clothing, and three doctor's visits to me, and pulling a tooth for Mandy, and the balance will show what we are in justice entitled to. Please send the money by Adams's Express, in care of V. Winters, Esq., Dayton, Ohio. If you fail to pay us for faithful labors in the past, we can have little faith in your promises in the future. We trust the good Maker has opened your eyes to the wrongs which you and your fathers have done to me and my fathers, in making us toil for you for generations without recompense. Here I draw my wages every Saturday night; but in Tennessee there was never any pay-day for the negroes any more than for the horses and cows. Surely there will be a day of reckoning for those who defraud the laborer of his hire.

In answering this letter, please state if there would be any safety for my Milly and Jane, who are now grown up, and both good-looking girls. You know how it was with poor Matilda and Catherine. I would rather stay here and starve—and die, if it come to that—than have my girls brought to shame by the violence and wickedness of their young masters. You will also please state if there has been any schools opened for the colored children in your neighborhood. The great desire of my life now is to give my children an education, and have them form virtuous habits.

Say howdy to George Carter, and thank him for taking the pistol from you when you were shooting at me.

From your old servant,

Jourdon Anderson.​

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Disneyland

How special is Disneyland to some children? I love this little girl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msbNldnGVoc&feature=related

That girl is SPECIAL!!!!

Here is a picture of the long gone Skull Rock,with the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship in the left of the frame. I took it with my little Kodak brownie in 1956.

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Stars and Stripes Forever

This didn't even get a view on another thread, so I'm reposting it here. I love the words. I love the music.

[video=youtube;VSmD9hrbrF0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSmD9hrbrF0[/video]


the words are incredible, I don't know why it isn't sung (no sarcasm) more often.

[video=youtube;EDrz3N0H2Ew]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDrz3N0H2Ew[/video]


The Story Behind The Music
In late 1896, Sousa and his wife took a much-deserved vacation to Europe. While there, Sousa received word that the manager of the Sousa Band, David Blakely, had died suddenly. The band was scheduled to begin another cross-country tour soon, and Sousa knew he must return to America at once to take over the band's business affairs. Sousa tells the rest of the story in his autobiography, Marching Along: Recollections of Men, Women and Music:

Here came one of the most vivid incidents of my career. As the vessel (the Teutonic) steamed out of the harbor I was pacing on the deck, absorbed in thoughts of my manager's death and the many duties and decisions which awaited me in New York. Suddenly, I began to sense a rhythmic beat of a band playing within my brain. Throughout the whole tense voyage, that imaginary band continued to unfold the same themes, echoing and re-echoing the most distinct melody. I did not transfer a note of that music to paper while I was on the steamer, but when we reached shore, I set down the measures that my brain-band had been playing for me, and not a note of it has ever changed.
The march was an immediate success - Sousa's Band played it at almost every concert until his death over 35 years later. Sousa even set words to it:

The Stars and Stripes Forever! (lyrics by John Philip Sousa)
Let martial note in triumph float
And liberty extend its mighty hand
A flag appears 'mid thunderous cheers,
The banner of the Western land.
The emblem of the brave and true
Its folds protect no tyrant crew;
The red and white and starry blue
Is freedom's shield and hope.

Other nations may deem their flags the best
And cheer them with fervid elation
But the flag of the North and South and West
Is the flag of flags, the flag of Freedom's nation.

Hurrah for the flag of the free!
May it wave as our standard forever,
The gem of the land and the sea,
The banner of the right.
Let despots remember the day
When our fathers with mighty endeavor
Proclaimed as they marched to the fray
That by their might and by their right
It waves forever.

Let eagle shriek from lofty peak
The never-ending watchword of our land;
Let summer breeze waft through the trees
The echo of the chorus grand.
Sing out for liberty and light,
Sing out for freedom and the right.
Sing out for Union and its might,
O patriotic sons.

Other nations may deem their flags the best
And cheer them with fervid elation,
But the flag of the North and South and West
Is the flag of flags, the flag of Freedom's nation.

Hurrah for the flag of the free.
May it wave as our standard forever
The gem of the land and the sea,
The banner of the right.
Let despots remember the day
When our fathers with might endeavor
Proclaimed as they marched to the fray,
That by their might and by their right
It waves forever.

(alternate version)

Be Kind To Your Web-Footed Friends (attributed to Fred Allen)

Be kind to your web-footed friends.
For a duck may be somebody's mother.
They live all alone in the swamp,
Where the weather is cold and damp.
Well, you may think that this is the end.
Yes, it is, but to prove that you are wrong,
We're going to sing it once again,
Oh, yes we will, but it will be just a bit louder!

Be kind to your web-footed friends.
For a duck may be somebody's mother.
They live at the bottom of the swamp,
Where the weather is cold and damp.
You may think that this is the end.
Well, it is ## you are right!
So, just remember:
Be kind to your web-footed friends!
Be ever kind, yes, oh, so kind to all the duckies!
 
Re: Bible sales

so who do you like for best actress this year?

Glenn Close. She's due. 5 times nominated, never won.

[video=youtube;P-BF1YE9BEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-BF1YE9BEM[/video]

I like Michelle Williams and Meryl Streep better.

[video=youtube;RDkHrq8GtNs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDkHrq8GtNs[/video]

[video=youtube;JDGrh7e7ahE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGrh7e7ahE[/video]
 
Re: Bible sales

Glenn Close. She's due. 5 times nominated, never won.

[video=youtube;P-BF1YE9BEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-BF1YE9BEM[/video]

I like Michelle Williams and Meryl Streep better.

[video=youtube;RDkHrq8GtNs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDkHrq8GtNs[/video]

[video=youtube;JDGrh7e7ahE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGrh7e7ahE[/video]

glenn is overdue. the film appears sumptuous but i don't favor the role.

i've always despised and detested meryl streep with a black passion. her 17th nomination. a new record. absolutely utterly uncanny performance which i enjoyed immensely

but...

not only is michelle...uhh...rather appealing the massively unbearable schlock of presenting marilyn monroe with an oscar may prove an irresistable temptation
 
Didja ever notice...?

That when you have extra money in your pocket, things that were working fine suddenly break down? Then you have less extra money.

How about this one: Watching the police interview my neighbor across the street. Didja ever notice that when the police come to the neighborhood, it's always to the same address?

It's the second observation that would apply to Hubbard's Data Series in that observation of an outpoint is a good starting point for an investigation, provided the end product of the investigation will yield equitable ROI. (I added that last as one can't prosper on out-point/correct, out-point/correct... :yes:)

There go your tax dollars, an investment into the same black holes over and over.

Oh, well... It's just an observation and a comment. I am not going to do anything about it right now.

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She's Hot!

We rolled in late last night after having the pleasure of listening to our own Kaleigh Baker perform in a smokey, little dive here in town. I am on a self-assigned mission to find her some great songs. Right now that's the only thing between her and artistic success and public acclaim.

Blues, funk, rock, ... She does it all except pop schlock. Know of any songwriter who wants to have a song considered?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aewb1ATsjg
 
Re: She's Hot!

We rolled in late last night after having the pleasure of listening to our own Kaleigh Baker perform in a smokey, little dive here in town. I am on a self-assigned mission to find her some great songs. Right now that's the only thing between her and artistic success and public acclaim.

Blues, funk, rock, ... She does it all except pop schlock. Know of any songwriter who wants to have a song considered?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aewb1ATsjg

What a voice!
 
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