The State of Clear

[Auditor's Toad]

She wasn't a red haired gal named Stacy was she? That was a gal I met when I stayed at the manor, she ran the elevator around that time. We wen't to Ensenada one year when I was out there....long interesting story that I don't know if I should get into.

No. But Stacy did make the rounds. I'd, uh, admit to. uh, knowing who she was - LOL !

Stories are good !

 

[DagwoodGum]

No. But Stacy did make the rounds. I'd, uh, admit to. uh, knowing who she was - LOL !

Stories are good !

I know I can't go there any further on this board. Let's just say we've met some very interesting personalities in SCN, especially in L.A. The saying should be, "what happens in L.A. stays in L.A." or LAY as they say, LOL!

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

In the forty years since you have done the Clearing Course, have you obtained the compete Clearing Course - not the incomplete, airbrushed, versions common on the Internet - and sat down and carefully reviewed the materials, with attention to the suggestive and manipulative nature of certain aspects of that level?

no, but if you know where to find them, and point me in the direction, I'd be interested

And, today, if someone new to Scientology approached you, upon hearing your glowing accounts of the Clearing Course, would you recommend that person do the Clearing Course?

anything and everything up through grade 6 from pre 1971 stuff, I would have no hesitation in saying, "go for it." I think there are better and faster techniques though. The CC, I'd want to look at before I just said go for it.

The stuff that harmed people was the culture pervading from the top. Lower levels auditing is good stuff. Not great, but good.

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The Insanity of Clear

I am CLEAR . . . . .







of Scientology!!!!!!

So why do you still practice $cientology or parts thereof? Do you want me to dig up the posts where you mentioned that you're doing exactly that?

OK, I guess now it's time for you to call me a Nazi again...

 

[Auditor's Toad]

The State of Clear = BatShitCrazy Beliefs

A clear is a Nazi ?

 

[MrNobody]

Re: The State of Clear = BatShitCrazy Beliefs

A clear is a Nazi ?

I don't know. What I do know is that a practicing $cilon named Gadfly thinks I am one.

 

[DagwoodGum]

I hate it when that happens.


NOT

Yes, but some of them were more than generous with STD's, just ask my friend Keith, except you can't because one of these STD's killed him. I was SO lucky!!

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Yes, but some of them were more than generous with STD's, just ask my friend Keith, except you can't because one of these STD's killed him. I was SO lucky!!

There but for the Grace of God go I.








( Yes, I did Grace, too )

 

[Gadfly]

Re: The Insanity of Clear

So why do you still practice $cientology or parts thereof? Do you want me to dig up the posts where you mentioned that you're doing exactly that?

OK, I guess now it's time for you to call me a Nazi again...

I won't call you a Nazi at the moment, but your statement seems to imply that you are apparently quite . . . . um, STUPID (or something, maybe "intellectually-challenged")?

Yes, I will use the occassional random IDEA from Hubbard's vast bundle of rantings IF it appeals to me, just as I use ideas from Buddhism, Christianity, psychology, magick and other fields of study. If an idea clicks for me, regardless WHERE it "comes from", I happily "use it". I sure do NOT forbid myself from using some idea simply because it might be associated with some "negative person or group" (i.e. Hubbard, Scientology).

Yes, please do dig up the posts.

I am curious how your absurd connections of data and logic allow you to come to the conclusion that I, the poster known as Gadfly, "practice Scientology". That is a stretch from almost ANY viewpoint - but not for you apparently!

That has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.

You are apparently really fucked up! (in the head)

I mean YES, I do the occassional "contact assist". I have used a very altered notion of ARC to save my life a few times (MANY years ago). Ummm, I still have a "three-basket system". I turn my lights out at night (just as per LRH policy). What other Scientology "tech" do I use, on any sort of regular basis?

Oh yes, I use a "spacation drill" from PAB #3 from time to time - it is an EXCELLENT form of "meditation". It "works" (for me). It "does the job". Should I lie or pretend that it doesn't?

Let's see, what else? I am looking . . . . . I am still looking. :confused2:

Umm, Hubbard mentions somewhere that "taking walks is a good way to de-stimulate". I take daily walks along the deer trails in the woods around my home. Does THAT make me a "practicing Scientolgist"?

Hubbard said somewhere that it is a good idea to "grant beingness". I do that for the most part. Am I bad? Am I evil for doing so? Does that make me a "practicing Scientologist"?

I like the ideas in the issue on "Personal Integrity", though of course these ideas are impossible to practice as a Scientology church member. You know, look, pay attention and OBSERVE what happens around oneself as a path to gaining "knowledge". Not a bad idea really. Do you disagree?

Me, a practicing Scientologist? I am curious, who else here gets the idea from all I have posted over the years that I "practice Scientology"? Have I really said much to give THAT idea?? Though, maybe in your over-active and strange imagination MR NOBODY.

HINT: I have studied and contacted a great many ideas over many years, and I have incorporated some of them into my personal bag of opinions, views and practices. Some had their origin through involvement with Scientology, but that is about as far as it goes, AND many have evolved due to contact with related mitigating subjects and views.

 

[DagwoodGum]

There but for the Grace of God go I.

Yes, I did Grace, too )

You know, I need to be more sensitive when I post something like that. It is so horrifying to watch someone die because of who they slept with. Fortunately, I got married before the real nasty stuff started going around. I'm SO sorry if I touched upon a sensitive area w/o having a clue. I'm so prone to doing that that it puts a shiver up my spine when I consider how I may have made someone feel by blabbering so inconsiderately.

 

[Dulloldfart]

Good one, Veda. Unusual for you.

Not really.

Paul

 

[Auditor's Toad]

You know, I need to be more sensitive when I post something like that. It is so horrifying to watch someone die because of who they slept with. Fortunately, I got married before the real nasty stuff started going around. I'm SO sorry if I touched upon a sensitive area w/o having a clue. I'm so prone to doing that that it puts a shiver up my spine when I consider how I may have made someone feel by blabbering so inconsiderately.

I just wanted to point out that I was aware that I took the same risks so many others did with unprotected sex in the 60s & 70s.

And I saw some of my friends, both homosexual and hetrosexual, die from AIDS before there was medication to even slow it down.

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Re: The Insanity of Clear

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Yes, I will use the occassional random IDEA from Hubbard's vast bundle of rantings IF it appeals to me, just as I use ideas from Buddhism, Christianity, psychology, magick and other fields of study. If an idea clicks for me, regardless WHERE it "comes from", I happily "use it". I sure do NOT forbid myself from using some idea simply because it might be associated with some "negative person or group" (i.e. Hubbard, Scientology).
<snip>You are apparently really fucked up! (in the head)
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Let's see, what else?
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Umm, Hubbard mentions somewhere that "taking walks is a good way to de-stimulate".
<snap>

If Gadfly is a scientologist then I certainly need to re-define scientologist !

And, troops, I must confess : I take walks therefore I must be a practicing scientologist. ( so send me all your money right now ! )

Do any of you not walk ?

 

[Auditor's Toad]

Re: The State of Clear=BatShit Crazy

clear is as clear does.

Anyone know one of these birds of a different feather?

Do these clears have that "altitude" so sought after by those immersed in scientology?

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

( Yes, I did Grace, too )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZluzt3H6tk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZA4L-1SmPU&NR=1&feature=fvwp

 

[Auditor's Toad]

I did not do the fuckin dog!

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

I did not do the fuckin dog!

You sound like an American President.

"I am not a crook." - Richard Millhouse Nixon

"I did not have sex with that woman. " - William Jefferson Clinton

"Read my lips. No new taxes." - George Herbert Walker Bush

 

[Auditor's Toad]

You sound like an American President.

"I am not a crook." - Richard Millhouse Nixon

"I did not have sex with that woman. " - William Jefferson Clinton

"Read my lips. No new taxes." - George Herbert Walker Bush

Nah, shucks. I ain't no American President.

I ain't no God either!

I think I'm one of them thar clear things. It just came natural.

 

[Ted]

Well now, I finally got caught up on this thread. Clear, not Clear... WTF? I am clear on some things and not clear on a lot of other things. But, great sex! WhaaHoo! And even greater sex with a Clear! Double whahoo! Who woulda thunk it?

This seems to be a guy thing. Are there any ladies on this thread?

 

[Hatshepsut]

Originally posted by Ted

Well now, I finally got caught up on this thread. Clear, not Clear... WTF? I am clear on some things and not clear on a lot of other things. But, great sex! WhaaHoo! And even greater sex with a Clear! Double whahoo! Who woulda thunk it?

This seems to be a guy thing. Are there any ladies on this thread?

Friday nights are always such a fog.

So it's YOU that has my Clear bracelet?​