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Div6

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Thank You!

You are welcome. Just got through watching the Ted presentation.
Powerful presentation. It is fascinating to me that a "neuro-scientist" would adopt such new age lingo to describe her experience.

But then, no one can "own" the truth.....
 
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Dave

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You are welcome. Just got through watching the Ted presentation.
Powerful presentation. It is fascinating to me that a "neuro-scientist" would adopt such new age lingo to describe her experience.

But then, no one can "own" the truth.....

My current feeling is that the truth can be looked at from many angles, described in many ways, and even experienced differently by different people through the filters of their own experiences, but is rarely if ever fully grasped. It is bigger than us. Life is grand when not being conqured, but lived as both cause and effect.

Her experience had me thinking who was it watching? And how powerful an amplifier the body mind system is, how attractive, addicting and also a bit entrapping, but then too, our own creation.

It is interesting to watch the path of science progress to the door of spirituality as our spiritual institutions head the other direction.
 

byte301

Crusader
Wow. Thanks for posting this, Dave. I am going to think about this for a long time.

And welcome.
 

Pixie

Crusader
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html

A bit long, but powerful at the end.

Who are we? What were we looking for in Scientology? Why when it went bad, have we been stuck looking to the past of it, rather than to the future we are able to create?

Who is Ted and why does he have a dot com?

My name is Dave and I was a scientologist.

Well this all sounds very intriguing but I have to have my dinner first. Meanwhile, I'd just like to welcome you to the board and look forward to getting to know you better. What you're saying so far sounds very interesting indeed and I can't wait for more.. so until then.. :welcome2: :yes:
 

gomorrhan

Gold Meritorious Patron
Welcome, Dave.

I, too, was a scientologist.

What I was looking for in scientology was release from my "held down sevens" and the ability to help others with the same. I got a lot more than that, both positive and negative.

The reason I look backwards is twofold: one, to help myself "get over it", with whatever remaining charge I have on the subject, its founder, the organizations operating as churches, and people I knew, things I did, etc., and two because it can be fun to remember the good times (which I had many of, although it sounds like others here didn't).

It would be incorrect to say that I couldn't look forward or create new life for myself, because I certainly have. Part of integrity, however, involves being true to your past: pretending it didn't happen, repressing the whole thing, can only be bad for you. Coming to terms with it can be good for you, and this can be a long process. Similar to divorce, "they" say that it sometimes takes an equivalent time being divorced, or being out from the Church, as it took you to get truely in and staying in, in order to become fully operational again as yourself. For me, this is a truism, although I did the "decompression" in spurts over a long period of time. I feel it's behind me, now, but I enjoy talking to others who've had similar experiences, and I enjoy getting views people have concerning value and lack of value of those experiences.

I choose not to research Ted at this time for you.
 

Pixie

Crusader
Video

Wow!! I think someone else posted this video before but I didn't watch all of it, today, I just did and I thought it was incredible. "The We Inside of Me" blew my socks off for sure.

Thanks for posting this again Dave. :thumbsup:
 

gomorrhan

Gold Meritorious Patron
For a demo on "the we inside of me", try smoking Salvia Divinorum in high concentrations. I'm not a doctor, and any damage received from this demo is strictly your own problem.
 

byte301

Crusader
"I choose not to research Ted at this time for you."


I don't think he asked you to. It was rhetorical imo.
 

Pixie

Crusader
For a demo on "the we inside of me", try smoking Salvia Divinorum in high concentrations. I'm not a doctor, and any damage received from this demo is strictly your own problem.

Thank for that gomorrhan, however I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon, my drug filled days are over. :yes:
 
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Ladybird

Silver Meritorious Patron
Salvia is legal in most countries, I had a jar of it myself from a chef class...once the psychotropic properties of this herb hit the 'net my jar disappeared. I am a foster parent, and I have experience with "kids".

They will smoke dirty socks or banana peels if they think it will get them high enough to forget about reality.
 

byte301

Crusader
Salvia is legal in most countries, I had a jar of it myself from a chef class...once the psychotropic properties of this herb hit the 'net my jar disappeared. I am a foster parent, and I have experience with "kids".

They will smoke dirty socks or banana peels if they think it will get them high enough to forget about reality.

Sorta like Cheech and Chong. lol Oh wait...Dave's not her....
 

gomorrhan

Gold Meritorious Patron
People who smoke salvia quickly learn that it's not done for "pleasure". It's a very seriously psychedelic drug, and people who do it are incapacitated for any real function for it's duration, which is usually less than forty minutes.

As Arnold Schwarzenegger said of weed, "it's not a drug, it's a leaf".
 

FinallyMe

Silver Meritorious Patron
Who TED is

From the ted.com web site

TED stands for Technology, Entertainment, Design. It started out (in 1984) as a conference bringing together people from those three worlds. Since then its scope has become ever broader.

The video is pretty interesting, enlightening and tells of an amazing experience!

Patte
 

Feral

Rogue male
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html

A bit long, but powerful at the end.

Who are we? What were we looking for in Scientology? Why when it went bad, have we been stuck looking to the past of it, rather than to the future we are able to create?

Who is Ted and why does he have a dot com?

My name is Dave and I was a scientologist.

So many questions...grasshopper!

Welcome to esmb...Dave!

I loved her story thank you for posting it. I thought about it as I went about my work. She had a profound experience and I think she is an absolutely brilliant thinker and an inspirational speaker. Her explaination of it, however, falls down a bit when she tried to interpret it through the standpoint of her education. She had mind and brain a bit mixed together I thought.

I think it does look foolish to try to perform the obligatory autopsy on our experience with scientology....and yet I still feel the need to explain to myself how it happened the way it did, how I ended up like the frog who was placed in the cold water and was slowly boiled, without jumping out.
 

happynow

Patron
Welcome Dave and thanks so much for posting this. I caught the tail end of this lady on NPR and really wanted to look her up but forgot.
I have felt for a few years that things are happening, big things, spiritually on this planet. I don't know if it's because of the amazingly aware people I've been around or if it's happening all over but despite all the crap that's going on I can still feel something happening and it's good and I really like it.
It's definitely not because of $cientology. Sorta perturbs me that they feel responsible. But hey I was them too. This is bigger, different. And hey if it's just all in my head who cares. I like it. It's good. Whatever. Party on, dude.
 
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Dave

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Namaste

Wow!! I think someone else posted this video before but I didn't watch all of it, today, I just did and I thought it was incredible. "The We Inside of Me" blew my socks off for sure.

Thanks for posting this again Dave. :thumbsup:

I think it was posted on one of the freezone lists too.

Here is another viewpoint on the we idea;
 

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