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The State of Clear

Lovesnightsky said:
Buddha: "Sanskrit; literally, "awakened one"; a person who has been released from the world of cyclic existence (samsara) and attained liberation from desire, craving, and attachment in nirvana"

Clear: fill in your own definition. It will still have no resemblance to the above. A "Clear" still has case, still has to do the OT levels etc before achieving total freedom - liberation.
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"Awakened one" seems more akin to Theta clear. Or possibly above.

Being a nerdy word clearer type, from Tech Dict:-

def 4 of 9 " ...would mean clear of the mest body or cleared of the necessity to have a mest body.

I separated from someone like that on OT 2.
 
Whatever the state of clear is, and there are 50+ LRH defs,
something remarkable is that the " Clear Cog", seems to come up time and time again by people.
 
Terril park said:
Whatever the state of clear is, and there are 50+ LRH defs,
something remarkable is that the " Clear Cog", seems to come up time and time again by people.
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One retort I've head - lots! Is Scientologists challenging others to prove that they understand "anything" about scientology They love asking; What's a clear!

As near as I can tell the only good answer is; "Do you mean a Dianetics clear, a Theta Clear, a Theta Cleared Thetan, or what? Be more specific please."

The few times I've used that reply they've sat there silently - assumed they were trying to clear all the terms in their head, then they'd change the subject. It was nice coming in here to see that Clear is just Unclear, which must be why they pick that question.
 
13heathens said:
One retort I've head - lots! Is Scientologists challenging others to prove that they understand "anything" about scientology They love asking; What's a clear!

As near as I can tell the only good answer is; "Do you mean a Dianetics clear, a Theta Clear, a Theta Cleared Thetan, or what? Be more specific please."

The few times I've used that reply they've sat there silently - assumed they were trying to clear all the terms in their head, then they'd change the subject. It was nice coming in here to see that Clear is just Unclear, which must be why they pick that question.
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Also, people tend not to like being backed into corners, conversational or otherwise. This is true of roughly 99% of humanity.
 
fluffy said:
Also, people tend not to like being backed into corners, conversational or otherwise. This is true of roughly 99% of humanity.
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Mary Mary,
quite contrary,
how does your garden grow?
With silver bells and cockle shells
and "yes buts" all in a row!: p
 
fluffy said:
Well, you know, I'd rather someone occasionally be a bit snarky but amusing and fun to talk to then bland.
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I'm just waiting for the day someone calls my bluff.. Dianetics clear is cleared of entheta, Theta cleared thetan is someone who no longer needs a body I think, and the theta clear no bloody clue LOL. It's a cheep way to get them to stop asking me to define clear at least :>

trick answers for trick questions.
 
DartSmohen said:
I am sure many readers out there can connect with this. If you went clear doing something other than Scn, then acknowledge it.
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Sidenote:
The Clear (capital C) is a trademark. You can go clear wherever you want, you can go Clear(tm) in Scn only.

Just like LRH is also a trademark thus they can put it under any text they want, since they own that trademark.
 
AMAZING that there are people to aspire to a 'spiritual' state that has a trade marked name. Really it gets so asinine that one can only follow through by allowing themselves to be made stupid by their guided advisors.
 
KnightVision said:
AMAZING that there are people to aspire to a 'spiritual' state that has a trade marked name. Really it gets so asinine that one can only follow through by allowing themselves to be made stupid by their guided advisors.
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One could also say that it is amazing that people can deny a state, just because at some point, someone (whether a fuckwit or not) decided to give it a trademarked name.

It is what it is, whatever we call it, AND it is so, despite whoever may have "named" it, and/or despite whoever may have claimed that it was something that they created.
 
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