The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[Blue Spirit]

Public Event

Really? Well, shazbot!!

See, if what you say is true, then by the process of elimination and with the application of logic one would have to reach the singular conclusion that YOU are the alien ET? Hmmmm . . . unless, of course, there were more than two entities present and the third and subsequent ones didn't truly care?

You have piqued my interest. I await TMT's story with baited breath.

It was a public event and if you lived in L.A. you could have attended too.

 

[Blue Spirit]

FACE's STORY

Face, that was a very beautiful and moving story.

Thank you for telling it; a tear in my eye.


EP, Face might give away his identity by using the teacher's name.
Likely she is not with us any longer if you consider dates/ages.

 

[The Magic Thetan]

WOW.. SO MANY WOWS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjxiJOye3Y

Thanks for the video. The Kleenex company made for money. I am such an emotional slob. Love Johnny

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Why so much 'bashing' of 'bashers'?

Zinj

Because they have chosen the game of "bashing". Thus they have made "bashing" their reality. Effective communication requires functioning at the "reality" level of the person to whom you are communicating. For a "basher" this implies "bashing".

Lovers get loved. The choice is yours. Which do you choose?


Mark A. Baker

 

[The Magic Thetan]

Who's Fringe and Who's Mainstream? Who's Playing a Minor Game and who is playing the Bigger Game?

When I arrived on ESMB a year and a half ago, in February, 2009, I believed this Message Board was interesting but it was a relatively minor game when contrasted with the huge game Miscavige and the C of S were playing!

They were dealing worldwide with 100's of thousands of people, spending tens of millions of dollars while we, the disgruntled few, were not spending any money and our carping complaints only reached a few hundred, maybe a few thousand, disgruntled souls.

We were as cur dogs, yipping at the feet of mightly Corporate Scientology. My God! what a difference a year and a half can be when it comes to a being changing his point of view. We are now dealing in the 5,000's and 10,000's as far as numbers of people reached and are moving into the 100,000's. In actuality, despite their claim of 10 million adherents, they deal only in the 10,000's themselves. Just look at the solo NOTs HGC, only about 5,200 people in the entire world registered on Solo NOTs and of those only about 3,100 not red tagged and of those, less than 2,000 actually auditing with good indicators and in high volume.

Yes, they still have a lot of money at their disposal but two things about that: First, most of the money is the result of out exchange, taking donations or large advanced payments and then not delivering a superlative product and Second, their expenses are high, especially their legal expenses.

THEIR GAME - "REMEMBERING THE STORY OF THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF" - HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY CRY WOLF AND STILL HAVE THEIR PUBLIC TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY? That is the game they are playing. When I was in they cried wolf maybe 25 times and all 25 times, people believed them and rallied to their cause. Somewhere between the 40th and 50th cry for wolf, some of the cries of wolf began to be ignored. Now after all these years, they continue to cry wolf but nobody but a few die hards are listening!

ALL THEY CAN DO IS REFORMAT AND RECYCLE, THE SAME OLD STUFF, ENDLESSLY REFORMATTED USUALLY UNDER FALSE PRETEXTS AND RECYCLED OVER AND OVER TO THE SAME DIEHARDS The few diehards who can afford these "services" are mostly senior citizens now, such as yours truly, Lakey.

All they can dispense are the teachings of one man, a man whom many consider brilliant and a great Savant, to be sure, but whom many others consider was a complete charlatan. This man, no matter how brilliant or not brilliant he actually was (or still is) has been totally exposed as not at all being averse to telling non truths as if they were truths. Blue Spirit, I am glad that he has changed is has continued to evolve spiritually and admits the last years of his life were a "train wreck".

The veracity of those claims is not relevant to my posts because of two reasons besides the obvious reason that Blue's claims will not be taken seriously by many people. The first of the other reasons, is the the C of $ has acknowledged that LRH is once again able to be communicated with and they are practicing only his old harmful poliicies and do not acknowledge the new, cleaned up, more truthful and benevolent versiion of LRH as "Source"

The second other reason is that though LRH may have gotten himself cleaned up as Blue asserts but LRH has not made that known broadly and has to date made no effort to do any ammends to the beings he has harmed nor to work up any conditions and repent and make up any damages. Perhaps, Blue will be his medium to get this process moving, I don't know.

Getting back on point, we are growing in numbers and in resources and , as stated in Fisherman's post, our combined resources are more vast and varied than those of just LRH alone. We encourage people to formulate their own ideas and then share them with us, as a result we are all moving up. We are exchanging n extreme abundance, gladly relaying anything and everything we know to anyone who wants it and without any monetary compensation.

COMMING FULL CIRCLE - I now feel in all good conscience that playing the game of this thred in particular and ESMB in general is a bigger and more important game than the game played by DM and C of S staff and public. DM and his minions, even though some of them are well intended, are just as cur dogs yipping at our heels. THE GAME OF LYING, COMMITTING CONTINUOUS OUT EXCHANG WITH PUBLIC AND STAFF, AND RECYCLING THE SAME OLD DIEHARDS OVER AND OVER ad nauseum, through the same old courses, REFORMATTED ENDLESSLY OVER AND OVER ad nauseum is a dead end game. The boys, LRH and then DM cried wolf over and over. The public heed LRH's cries when he was living amongst us and at first heeded DM's cries but somewhere along the line, there were just too many lies and exposures of truths and finally the boy, now just DM, cried wolf just one time too many and FINALLY after decades and decades people have stopped and his cries of Wolf are going unanswered,
Lakey

Brilliant! Beautiful! Thank You!!!

 

[auntpat]

Brother John

Dear John,

Please continue with your story and your truths. I would like very much to read both.

I left Scientology in 1973 because I had observed things that led me to believe that it was becoming something very different that the group I got into. I had completed Cl 6, Cs 7 training and was OT 1.

I believe you know my ex-husband Steve Muro since I heard you say "Hi, Steve" at the July 4th party. My leaving was the end of our marraige, but we are still friends and keep in touch.

I will soon be 76 and am still studying for enlightment. You sound like a person who may have some truths I would like to know. I would not like to miss what you have to share just because some members of ESMB are not interested. I would sugest that anyone who does not want to hear what you have to say to put you on ignore, rather then waste the time of the rest of us who are wanting to listen,

I am looking forward to your words.

Love & Light,
Pat

 

[Zinjifar]

Because they have chosen the game of "bashing". Thus they have made "bashing" their reality. Effective communication requires functioning at the "reality" level of the person to whom you are communicating. For a "basher" this implies "bashing".

Lovers get loved. The choice is yours. Which do you choose?


Mark A. Baker

I wear many hats. For Scientology, I'm an 'op-term'.

It's political.

Zinj

 

[The Magic Thetan]

Wow..

Raffy John, honey, it's all o.k. It really is!

I can share this viewpoint about what you have to say here:

"I seem to have instigated a “War of Viewpoints” and “An Ego War“, and I do not want to submit my story if it is going to cause people to war with each other."

This so-called ego war of viewpoints has been going on since way before you got here, and it will continue for some time to come. Scientology is a very divisive subject! Many people have been so badly hurt that their feelings are raw. Your experience is your experience. You haven't really hurt or harmed anybody here by writing about it and your recollections of your days "in" Scientology.

I too, have a very thin skin, and have been chewed up and spat out by more than one poster here...it's not pleasant, but it's not the end of anybody's world either, if folks don't like me or don't agree with what I have to say, or my attitude rubs them the wrong way.

The same is true for you.

I stay because I have really made friends here, and because I am still learning about the nature of Life, Love and the Universe, the learning of which is something that I value more than anything else, and because I perceive that I might just be able to help somebody sometime.

I know that you are someone who loves to help others too, as are most of the regular posters on this thread...I think this is the "real" glue that holds us together despite all our diversity and different viewpoints. (Pssst-that and the surfing!) I also think all of our collective "Spiritual Teammates" are assisting us in forwarding the "project" of this thread! Yeah, I experience them and I'm not afraid to say so!!!

You do have friends here John, it may just take a little time for you to locate them! I am here for one, and there is Lakey and Blue Spirit. I am sure there are others, as well. Grant us time to get to know each other.

Be the big being that you are, and don't take any criticism of your words too personally, or let it cause you to shut yourself down! I don't see that you have manifested harming anybody here, at all. It's good to be aware that our words have effect on people, but don't edit yourself into silence! What you have to share is important. It will help people to see the subject of Scientology more clearly.

I want to encourage you to stay. We all "re-stimulate" each other all the time, and it's just a part of the life process of learning, growing and healing. It's not a big sin in the world outside of COS. I like to think of us as rocks being tumbled about together by the flow of a mighty river, after a while, we become beautiful smooth stones. All the rough edges get chipped off or polished away.

Don't feel that you have to share anything earth-shattering to make an impression on us...the energy of your being, that you are kind and care about helping people comes through loud and clear, and people will be curious about your life experiences and want to learn more about you, as they get to know you. Let people get to know you a little more, and then telling your story will go more easily.

You do have a perspective based on your own personal experiences that is unique, and I know many of us want to hear your story. We love personal stories around here! Everyone has a piece of Scientology history, and I know yours can be a valuable contribution, because you worked with Ron directly and have not spoken of it publicly yet.

My heartfelt condolences on the passing of your beloved wife. It's very human to feel survivor's guilt after the passing of a loved one, I have grappled with it myself. It eases with time, and for you, it hasn't even been a year yet. In my personal experience, as well as by observation of others, the first year...with all the firsts of important dates and holidays without them is by far the hardest, so John, please be patient with yourself, and be kind to yourself. The worst year is almost behind you.

Be patient with the people here too...all of us are wounded in our own personal ways (the human condition), and many of us are conscious of being here to help each other to heal, while healing ourselves as well.

You haven't harmed anybody by posting here, not really. Many of the drama queens on the board enjoy getting all excited! They really do! They import drama from other websites sometimes, if things get too boring for them! I won't name any names, but some of them I like very much! Don't allow yourself to be disturbed or harmed either, by anything that anybody posts here.

Please continue with your story whenever you feel comfortable doing so. If it feels easier, just have fun being here for awhile, surf around on the threads and get to know some of the members here, and what's being discussed. Believe me, it's all over the map!

If you like, just play for awhile John, have some fun with being here...you are still a newbie, and there is no particular way to do it right. It's a process of getting to know people, and letting yourself be known.

You can do it, and let there be some joy in the doing!

Much Love from Sweetness

And People call me "The Magic Thetan" You are Magic. Love Johnny

 

[The Magic Thetan]

Thanks

John, a friend of mine called ESMB and ARS places where there were people with "Stuck Attention Units." To some extent, this is true.

There are people here who never liked one thing in Scientology (and were never in), and never will.

There are people here who have become anti-Scientologists.

There are people here who still use some of the tech. They may or may not call themselves Scientologists.

There are very few people here who still are hard-line Scientologists.

Right. Thanks for the broader viewpoint

 

[Mark A. Baker]

I wear many hats. For Scientology, I'm an 'op-term'.

It's political.

Zinj

If by "scientology" you mean the Co$, this isn't one of their sites and few of their members openly post on this board.

So, should we treat you as a "lover" or a "basher". :confused2:


Mark A. Baker

 

[The Magic Thetan]

Beautiful

the above is true. all that being said, this thread is a good place for you.

You just posted a real post. You talked about the death of your wife and coping with that. That was a very real communication. Most of us here post very real communications. We post about an idea that interests us or a particular passion that we have or a movie we liked.

Many of us have books. We haven't posted them even in serial form.

Please stay. Think of this as the volleyball / parking lot area of ASHO on W. Temple. This is a place to bullshit, talk tech, find a good spot to eat, maybe even hit on a cute girl. It isn't a place to give a seminar. We all want to talk and listen.

This little thread is very similar to the 4th of July party. Everyone participates, hangs with friends, meets new people, enjoys the music, and so on. Take a load off your feet. Push back and enjoy the camaraderie. Once you're comfortable with us, you'll know what to say. I think that you can say anything. This thread, the Apollo thread is more forgiving and tolerant of pro Scientology comm, but it is just like ASHO was. There are others' opinions that will chime in.

If love really is the most important thing to you, then this thread is the place for you to hang out at.

Before I ever heard of Scientology, I realized love was the most important thing to me. I've sent 45 years broadening my understanding of that simple powerful thought.

Love isn't the raison d'être for everyone. Some value knowledge first. Others - order. There is a different raison d'être for each and every person. Together, we all harmonize pretty well.

I attempt to make my posts entertaining. I also try to push tidbits of knowledge and or music or entertainment appreciation.

There is a shit load more to life than Scientology tech. Tell us something that you are passionate about. One thing, not a chapter of your book. Let your conversational skills come to the fore.

Live communication changes conditions better than anything.

I'm running out of ways to express my appreciation to all you beautiful beings, so I'll just say thanks.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

I'm running out of ways to express my appreciation to all you beautiful beings, so I'll just say thanks.

Money is also good.


Mark A. Baker

 

[lkwdblds]

Pass the Kleenex Johnny...sniff, sniff, sob

Thanks for the video. The Kleenex company made for money. I am such an emotional slob. Love Johnny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGjxiJOye3Y


The Lone Ranger and his faithful Indian companion Tonto, ride boldy and bravely out of some being's fertile imagination and into the huge, beautiful and colorful panorama which was the "American West" aboard their speedy mounts, "Silver" and "Scout" to fight yet anothere battle against the forces of evil. They don't make excuses, explain why things can't be done, ask for more help, THEY MAKE THINGS GO RIGHT!! THEY DO NOT ASK FOR REMUNERATION BUT RIDE OFF INTO THE SUNSET UNTIL THE NEXT VILLAIN REARS HIS UGLY HEAD AND TRIES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INNOCENT.

In the background the masterly crafted musical fanfare known as the William Tell Overture, written by the great Giaochino Rossini, sounds its trumpet fanfare and blares its immortal and glorious strains, similating the sound of fast horses racing at full speed.

Hi Ho Silver!.... get'um up Scout! Once more the Lone Ranger and Tonto ride out of the movie, TV or computer screen into our hearts, minds and souls to do battle with yet another tough and hardened villain in an attempt to bring law and order to the beautiful and vast American West!

Johnny, I've been watching these two guys battle the bad guys since I was 6 years old, Johnny, is there any more Kleenex in that box. Oh, good, could you please pass the box over here for a second, I'm kinda all choked up too,,,,,,
Lakey

 

[The Magic Thetan]

I haven't noticed anyone at all getting particularly upset over your posting here other than, I imagine, you. You seem to be a nice guy. It's not like you are picking on people here, or invalidating them personally. You haven't upset me, although you might have offended my sense of reality a few times.

ESMB houses a lot of people with different viewpoints, and they express them in different ways. Generally, people here are fairly tolerant of contrary views being expressed, although they don't have to accept them and will usually say why! Are you familiar with online message boards generally, especially unmoderated ones? I get the idea you are comparing ESMB to, say, conversation with friends who know you well or with strangers being socially polite. Try a different datum of comparable magnitude, like the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology, or the true believers at Marty Rathbun's blog or the funsters at WhyWeProtest's thunderdome (you're lucky as I don't have a Dome link handy) and you'll get a different viewpoint.


I would like to read them. Put them online somewhere, maybe on your website. If you don't want them there, there are virtually unlimited other options. Then put a link to them in your signature file. Or just have a "Johnny Raff Chronicles" thread with the link to them all at the beginning, and people can discuss them and quote snippets as they wish.


I won't talk for anyone else here, just myself. I want(ed) to know how much of what you wrote about doing came about on regular communication channels (spoken words, written words, body gestures between people) and how much was on "magical" channels. I have never asked you to prove the magical stuff, merely to indicate which is regular-world and which is magical-world.

It makes a difference! Maybe not to you, but it does to me. If someone says they worked with Ron and he said and did blah blah, I consider it different if they actually were with him in the flesh *in this lifetime*, or if it is something they are convinced happened in another way.

Anyway, do what you will.

Paul

Thanks for all the good advice. I have never been on any internet message boards. This is my 1st experiences.

I am still a little bit leery about detailing my experiences with Ron as I feel I went way out gradient in my first posting. However, that being said, I will dive off the board once more.

My first communication occurred about 2 AM in the morning in December of 1967 after I had sent him a letter regarding some OT experiences. Someone, a secretary or communicator came on the line wanting to know if the phone line was secure. I assured her it was, and then Ron came on shocking the hell out of me.

That's how it started.

There were more calls as time went on, and other interactions that I will detail in the Chronicles when I feel completely comfortable doing so.

I really don't feel completely comfortable saying this, for I do not know if it will open a can of worms. I don't want to spend all of my time answering questions, and I tend to feel obligated to answer things when I am asked. If this generates a hundred, or a thousand other inquiries, I tend to feel I will get overwhelmed. I have been working today from about 8 AM to get caught up on all the communications, and I have not done a dozen other important cycles that I scheduled today. It is now 5:53 PM, and I have a lot more to do to get caught up, and I haven't even started on the hundred and sixty eight regular E-Mails I have not answered. I am not nearly the OT I would like to be.

:wink2:I have a dream of materializing my WonderWorld theme park project into reality. That has, and is, taking a tremendous amount of time and effort, especially the effort of raising nine billion dollars when I find it even difficult to conceive of that amount of money.

So there it is.

Gradually over the years, and as part of my OT research, I developed a telepathic report with Ron. Then, after his death, that report moved into an amazing state. The telepathic report delivers me packages of information that it would take weeks to verbalize. It also is not something that many believe is real or even possible. And frankly I do not want to try to prove it to anyone, for I consider that is impossible, As Ron put it, the only real proof of it is experiencing it to be true. And actually, there is even more to it than that.

I hope this helps you to get the information you desire.

:wink2:I request that you allow me to tell the story in the Chronicles, for if I end up spending all of my time answering these questions, I fear I will not get the theme park to happen. I am only sleeping about two hours a night, and my body has a lot of not so nice things to say about that. I also eat all the things that the agreed upon reality says I should not eat, and my body has a lot to say about that also. BLUE SPIRIT has been attempting to get me to EAT RIGHT, but I am addicted to foods that assert that my taste buds are in treason with the rest of the system. I once wrote a book called "Health Food Makes Me Sick", and from one point of view it does, because it tends to release a bunch of the stored up toxins. I don't want to support that reality, but as yet, I have not become OT enough to chronically handle it.

:wink2:I do love to give people any information they desire, and I easily get caught up in trying to do a good job of fulfilling people's requests. I truly want for you everything you want for yourself. I truly do.

Thank you for any understanding and any tolerance you are willing to afford me.

Love, johnny

Love John

 

[lkwdblds]

Two of my favorite Western songs

Here is Whoopi Ti Yi Yo about a cattle drive in Texas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgYhfVc3mjQ



Next is the Ballad of Billy the Kidd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DIFiHqNkt0&feature=related

There was a New Mexico Lakey out of Las Cruces, New Mexico (1840-1861) shot with bow and arrow by an Indian while he and a ranch hand were stringing fencing on the family ranch. That New Mexico Lakey may have gone on a cattle drive, taking a herd to Texas as a teen ager. Thus Lakey's fascination with the Whoopi Ti Yi Yo song.
Lakey

 

[The Great Zorg]

wtf?

(snip)
Gradually over the years, and as part of my OT research, I developed a telepathic report with Ron. Then, after his death, that report moved into an amazing state. The telepathic report delivers me packages of information that it would take weeks to verbalize. It also is not something that many believe is real or even possible. And frankly I do not want to try to prove it to anyone, for I consider that is impossible, As Ron put it, the only real proof of it is experiencing it to be true. And actually, there is even more to it than that. Love, johnny Love John

Please tell me you're kidding, right? It's a joke: a play on words regarding the whole clam opera and all the failed promises of gains and abilities that never were? I just had to ask as I have experienced some of these mystical occurances and so I know them to be real. sooner or later I will find some one who also has and is willing to discuss and investigate these things. :confused2:

 

[lkwdblds]

Here's an email without comment from C of S

What's that they're saying, what's that they're playing {From the song "Waiting for the Robert E. Lee"}.

I know the writer of this email who is a very decent and dedicated person who believes all of this to be true.
Lakey


QUOTE FROM EMAIL I RECEIVED TODAY
An OT Boom of Unimaginable Proportions: 10,000 on Solo NOTs



“AT ANY ONE TIME ON EARTH THERE WERE NOT MORE THAN ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE OF A CALIBER THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TO DO A LITTLE STEERING OR LEADING…..THERE’S ONLY ABOUT 10,000 OF THEM REALLY.”

L RON HUBBARD 18 Dec 1952 “How to Talk to Friends About Scientology”



We have passed the halfway point in our quest to get to 10,000 at the top of the Gradation Chart.



Yes, that does mean we now have over 5000 New OT VIIs & OT VIIIs on earth! This is massively good news, of course, for the planet and the handling of this society! But what is actually more important is the next stage, getting the next 5000 onto Solo NOTs to bring us up to the 10,000 figure.



Why 10,000?



Per calculations done when the target was first launched it was estimated that these OTs, now Cause Over Life or close to it, would produce a large enough volume of field activity to get all orgs to Saint Hill size and consequently bring about the release of New OT IX and X. It was a mathematical equation, all extrapolated out.



From the real physical universe effects this would create in terms of case gain and resultant third dynamic activity, including mid – New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs joining staff, it was estimated we would achieve the goal of bringing about the release of New OT IX and X.



But not only that – it was also estimated that 10,000 on or through New OT VII would be able to do a lot of “steering or leading” per the quote above and thus the achievement of this target would go a long way towards handling our society.



There is another aspect to this: the technical fact is, that as one progresses up the Gradation Chart, one has a direct destimulating effect on the fourth dynamic.



When one hits the Second Wall of Fire (New OT V to New OT VII) this become a real factor. In fact, it has been said, very truthfully, that this level of The Bridge, “Every session counts.”



Thus, when discussing the target to have 10,000 Scientologists at the tope of The Bridge grade chart we are talking about a combination of the very tangible, direct effects these OTs create, combined with the not so tangible, but just as important, theta factors involved.



Having now made several thousand Golden Age of Tech Solo NOTs auditors and over 1400 New OT VII completions, activity in the physical universe more than confirms the theory above – we are seeing more and more major, planet-changing type activity every single week, with mid-New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs as one of the major thrusts behind all of these advances.



And it’s not just outside of orgs where these effects are being felt – most important of all, more mid New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs than ever before, are joining staff. Several Class V orgs now have whole executive structures composed of mid New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs, driving their orgs up to Saint Hill size from within.



Here are some successes from some OTs auditing on New OT VII: “One of the biggest wins I’ve had while on this level was gaining the true understanding of responsibility and cause” “My space has gotten to be so big, it has no limits. It feels wonderful to be here.”



Getting on up and through these New OT Levels is very important to you. I am available anytime for questions or whatever help I can give towards your climb up The Bridge!


An OT Boom of Unimaginable Proportions: 10,000 on Solo NOTs



“AT ANY ONE TIME ON EARTH THERE WERE NOT MORE THAN ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE OF A CALIBER THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TO DO A LITTLE STEERING OR LEADING…..THERE’S ONLY ABOUT 10,000 OF THEM REALLY.”

L RON HUBBARD 18 Dec 1952 “How to Talk to Friends About Scientology”



We have passed the halfway point in our quest to get to 10,000 at the top of the Gradation Chart.



Yes, that does mean we now have over 5000 New OT VIIs & OT VIIIs on earth! This is massively good news, of course, for the planet and the handling of this society! But what is actually more important is the next stage, getting the next 5000 onto Solo NOTs to bring us up to the 10,000 figure.



Why 10,000?



Per calculations done when the target was first launched it was estimated that these OTs, now Cause Over Life or close to it, would produce a large enough volume of field activity to get all orgs to Saint Hill size and consequently bring about the release of New OT IX and X. It was a mathematical equation, all extrapolated out.



From the real physical universe effects this would create in terms of case gain and resultant third dynamic activity, including mid – New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs joining staff, it was estimated we would achieve the goal of bringing about the release of New OT IX and X.



But not only that – it was also estimated that 10,000 on or through New OT VII would be able to do a lot of “steering or leading” per the quote above and thus the achievement of this target would go a long way towards handling our society.



There is another aspect to this: the technical fact is, that as one progresses up the Gradation Chart, one has a direct destimulating effect on the fourth dynamic.



When one hits the Second Wall of Fire (New OT V to New OT VII) this become a real factor. In fact, it has been said, very truthfully, that this level of The Bridge, “Every session counts.”



Thus, when discussing the target to have 10,000 Scientologists at the tope of The Bridge grade chart we are talking about a combination of the very tangible, direct effects these OTs create, combined with the not so tangible, but just as important, theta factors involved.



Having now made several thousand Golden Age of Tech Solo NOTs auditors and over 1400 New OT VII completions, activity in the physical universe more than confirms the theory above – we are seeing more and more major, planet-changing type activity every single week, with mid-New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs as one of the major thrusts behind all of these advances.



And it’s not just outside of orgs where these effects are being felt – most important of all, more mid New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs than ever before, are joining staff. Several Class V orgs now have whole executive structures composed of mid New OT VIIs and New OT VIIIs, driving their orgs up to Saint Hill size from within.



Here are some successes from some OTs auditing on New OT VII: “One of the biggest wins I’ve had while on this level was gaining the true understanding of responsibility and cause” “My space has gotten to be so big, it has no limits. It feels wonderful to be here.”



Getting on up and through these New OT Levels is very important to you. I am available anytime for questions or whatever help I can give towards your climb up The Bridge!



Love,
Barbera Dews

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Face might give away his identity by using the teacher's name.
Likely she is not with us any longer if you consider dates/ages.

The teacher's name was Miss Brooks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtk0PfA4wxY&feature=related

 

[Leon]

Do you really believe that?

Yes.

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Please tell me you're kidding, right? It's a joke: a play on words regarding the whole clam opera and all the failed promises of gains and abilities that never were? I just had to ask as I have experienced some of these mystical occurances and so I know them to be real. sooner or later I will find some one who also has and is willing to discuss and investigate these things. :confused2:

I belong to a little group called Foundation for Mind-Being Research. There are a number of people who worked for SRI doing investigations for the CIA into remote viewing etc and did Scientology who have been associated with this group. You can google SRI and the foundation if this topic tickles your funny bone. There is a lot of research and out of the box thinkers doing quite well without a spotlight on them.