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RogerB

Crusader
Speaking of Esalen...

Abraham Maslow, 1908 - 1970 [1]


"I was awfully curious to find out why I didn't go insane," remarked
Abraham Maslow, one of the founders of humanistic psychology.

Snipped . . . . .

"Human nature is not nearly as bad as it has been thought to be."




***Creating peak experiences by focusing on them*** [2]


'Peak experiences are not mystical experiences but a normal part of
everyday life' Abraham Maslow, one of the founders of humanistic
psychology, argued that all healthy people have peak experiences, and
that these are not mystical experiences but a normal part of everyday
life. Colin Wilson, in this book's foreword, recounts how Maslow would
get his students to describe peak experiences they'd had in the past
and had then forgotten about. He discovered that once they began to
describe peak experiences and to listen to those of others, they
started having regular peak experiences of their own. Just this act of
focusing on peak experiences and regarding them as a normal and
necessary part of life, was sufficient to induce them.

But Maslow was critical of hippies who were gluttonous in
their approach to spiritual experience - and critical too of growth centres
such as Esalen in Big Sur, California.
<http://www.esalen.org/>

In one essay he writes:

We must beware of people who are anti-intellectual, anti-rational,
anti-scientific, and anti-research. ... We must seek knowledge, values,
and wisdom. Why is there no library at Esalen?

We must join health psychology with sickness psychology. Esalen should
not exclude the insights of Sigmund Freud and psychoanalysis.

There needs to be a better balance at Esalen between the Dionysian and
the Apollonian. There needs to be more dignity, politeness, courtesy,
reserve, privacy, responsibility, and loyalty. There should be much
less talk about "instant intimacy" and "instant love" and much more
about the necessity for Apollonian controls such as pace and style.

At places like the Esalen Institute, there must be more
stress on work, discipline, and lifelong effort. The ladder of consciousness
must be climbed gradually, step by step.


It is important to differentiate between peak experiences and plateau
experiences, between the flash of insight and the patient working
through of self-knowledge and between psychedelic experience and
psychotherapy. Esalen staff members tend to view human
personality growth in terms of the big bang of tremendous inner breakthroughs,
but true growth is rather a lifelong task.



'The notion of consciousness for consciousness's sake is amoral' The
notion advocated by many at Esalen of "consciousness for
consciousness's sake" must be criticised and rejected. This notion has
all the inherent evil of "art for art's sake," or "science for
science's sake," or "high intelligence for high intelligence's sake."
The essential point is that all such philosophies are amoral.


'Using other people as a means to alter one's consciousness rather than
to enter an I-thou relationship' The various Being-values must be
determined in terms of each other, or else they can lead to the evil
results that have arisen in the psychedelic or hippie movement today.
With these movements, people tend to search for and value anything that
will produce another intense experience or alteration of ordinary
consciousness. Historically, this ideology has always led in mystical
movements to a kind of selfishness - that is, in using other people
simply as a means to alter one's consciousness rather than to enter
into what Martin Buber has called an I-thou relationship with them.
Such an outlook has usually led to magic and a fascination for such
arcana as astrology, card reading, and numerology.


'These viewpoints have led into sadism because sadism may give new
experiences and may turn some people on' In turn, these activities
historically have led to an anti-rationalism, anti-intellectualism,
anti-science, and, finally, an anti-fact. And then, these viewpoints
ultimately have led into sadism because sadism may give "new
experiences" and may "turn some people on." In any case, with the
"consciousness for consciousness's sake" mystique, there are no
principles by which to criticise an alteration of consciousness, that
is, to say whether it is good or evil or whether it causes good or
evil.

The final product of this whole line of ideological development can be
a death wish, because dying, suicide, and killing can, in themselves,
produce "new experiences" ...

Growth centres like the Esalen Institute must always be
judged by their actual products ... : Do places like Esalen make good
people or bad people? Do they make our society better or worse?



**14 ways of reaching the Being realm**

But besides warning of the dangers, Maslow had his own recommendations
for ways to reach a higher state of being:

(1) Get out of the Deficiency-world by deliberately going into the
Being-realm. Seek out art galleries, libraries, museums, beautiful or
grand trees, and the mountains or seashore.

(2) Contemplate people who are admirable, beautiful, lovable, or
respect-worthy.

(3) Step out into clean air on Mount Olympus. Step into the world of
pure philosophy, pure mathematics, or pure science.

(4) Try narrowed-down absorption or close-up fascination with the small
world, for instance, the ant hill, insects on the ground. Closely
inspect flowers or blades of grass, grains of sand, or the earth. Watch
intently without interfering.

(5) Use the artist's or photographer's trick of seeing the object in
itself. ... Gaze at it for a very long time. Gaze while free
associating or daydreaming.

(6) Be with babies or children for a long period of time. They are
closer to the Being-realm. Sometimes, you can experience the
Being-realm in the presence of animals like kittens, puppies, monkeys,
or apes.


**'Contemplate your life from the historian's viewpoint - 100 or even
1,000 years in the future'**


(7) Contemplate your life from the historian's viewpoint - 100 or even
1,000 years in the future.


(8) Contemplate your life from the viewpoint of a non-human species,
for example, as it might appear to ants.

(9) Imagine that you have only one year left to live.

(10) Contemplate your daily life as though being seen from a great
distance, such as from a remote village in Africa.

(11) Look at a familiar person or situation as though viewing it for
the very first time, freshly.

(12) Look at the same person or situation as though viewing it for the
very last time, for instance, that the individual is going to die
before you see him or her again.

(13) Contemplate the situation through the eyes of the great and wise
sages: Socrates, Spinoza, or Voltaire.

(14) Try addressing yourself, or talking or writing, not to the people
immediately around you but over their shoulders, that is, to history's
great figures like Beethoven, William James, Immanuel Kant, Socrates,
or Alfred Whitehead.

These last two pieces of advice were of course easier for Maslow to
follow than for us less lofty mortals.



[1] <http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/bhmasl.html>

[2] Future Visions - The unpublished papers of Abraham Maslow edited by
Edward Hoffman, published by Sage Publications (2455 Teller Road,
Thousand Oaks, California 91320, USA, e-mail: , UK
tel 020 7 374 0645; 1996, ISBN 0 7919 0051 9; £16-50). Reviewed by
Nicholas Albery. <http://www.globalideasbank.org/crespec/CS-176.HTML>

Wonderful, Ted.

Thanks for posting this. Very apropos.

It also caused me to go to wikipedia to refresh my memory on Emile Coué, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Émile_Coué

There's a link to a free PDF of his book there. It was one of my "bibles" for a number of years before I got in to Scn.

I say your post is apropos because it leads right into some stuff . . . the positive stuff I'll be writing on on my other thread.

Rog
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
Wonderful, Ted.

Thanks for posting this. Very apropos.

It also caused me to go to wikipedia to refresh my memory on Emile Coué, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Émile_Coué

There's a link to a free PDF of his book there. It was one of my "bibles" for a number of years before I got in to Scn.

I say your post is apropos because it leads right into some stuff . . . the positive stuff I'll be writing on on my other thread.

Rog


Many years ago when I read the article, I realized I then had a source of information outside the Hubbard bubble that would help in its evaluation.

What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.

And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.

My own observation went immediately to violations of physiological needs: food, sleep or rest being prominent for SO.

Safety needs are constantly being violated with ethics conditions, face-ripping, attacks and erosion of one's bank accounts and property.

The need for love, affection, and a sense of belonging are violated by justice used as political control.

Consider the people who have attested Clear, gone on to OT-levels, then told they aren't Clear. That's a helluva violation of esteem.

I am certain you can think of your own examples. I initially noted how difficult it is to reach high levels of self-actualization in a dangerous environment, a huge but not the least dangers are having one's bank account and personal integrity always under attack.

We live in a time of tremendous corruption. A few individuals have done what can be done to fix that in their respective areas. Scientology has done nothing but contribute to corruption. When auditing was no longer for the pc but for the organization, the tech was corrupted. Ethics has been redefined to a Hubbard model, and thus corrupted. Admin is corrupting. The stats are everything; the beings's who produce them are just stat slaves.

Hubbard was right about one thing: Tech will not go in when ethics are out.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Its been said before in so many words but....

Many years ago when I read the article, I realized I then had a source of information outside the Hubbard bubble that would help in its evaluation.

What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.

And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.

My own observation went immediately to violations of physiological needs: food, sleep or rest being prominent for SO.

Safety needs are constantly being violated with ethics conditions, face-ripping, attacks and erosion of one's bank accounts and property.

The need for love, affection, and a sense of belonging are violated by justice used as political control.

Consider the people who have attested Clear, gone on to OT-levels, then told they aren't Clear. That's a helluva violation of esteem.

I am certain you can think of your own examples. I initially noted how difficult it is to reach high levels of self-actualization in a dangerous environment, a huge but not the least dangers are having one's bank account and personal integrity always under attack.

We live in a time of tremendous corruption. A few individuals have done what can be done to fix that in their respective areas. Scientology has done nothing but contribute to corruption. When auditing was no longer for the pc but for the organization, the tech was corrupted. Ethics has been redefined to a Hubbard model, and thus corrupted. Admin is corrupting. The stats are everything; the beings's who produce them are just stat slaves.

Hubbard was right about one thing: Tech will not go in when ethics are out.

It has been said before but it is always good to get a concise and fresh look at the topics commented on by Ted in his above post. The way Ted has put it here is refreshing and summarizes most of the key points using very few words. The post really gets to the heart of the matter is an excellent summary type post of a very broad subject.
Lakey
 

RogerB

Crusader
Many years ago when I read the article, I realized I then had a source of information outside the Hubbard bubble that would help in its evaluation.

What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.

And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.

My own observation went immediately to violations of physiological needs: food, sleep or rest being prominent for SO.

Safety needs are constantly being violated with ethics conditions, face-ripping, attacks and erosion of one's bank accounts and property.

The need for love, affection, and a sense of belonging are violated by justice used as political control.

Consider the people who have attested Clear, gone on to OT-levels, then told they aren't Clear. That's a helluva violation of esteem.

I am certain you can think of your own examples. I initially noted how difficult it is to reach high levels of self-actualization in a dangerous environment, a huge but not the least dangers are having one's bank account and personal integrity always under attack.

We live in a time of tremendous corruption. A few individuals have done what can be done to fix that in their respective areas. Scientology has done nothing but contribute to corruption. When auditing was no longer for the pc but for the organization, the tech was corrupted. Ethics has been redefined to a Hubbard model, and thus corrupted. Admin is corrupting. The stats are everything; the beings's who produce them are just stat slaves.

Hubbard was right about one thing: Tech will not go in when ethics are out.

JEZZUZZ, that above is bloody brilliant! :clap::clap:

I'm still re-reading it and milking the magic juice of it.

It so completely summarizes the actuality of the key, gross outness and why of the CofS operation.

I had not before appreciated such a whole view of it till this above. I had only seen the parts, or the major parts. But this above is a wholly aligned exposition of the actual scenario.

Bloody brilliant :yes::yes:

Rog
 

EP - Ethics Particle

Gold Meritorious Patron
Ted's the man!

JEZZUZZ, that above is bloody brilliant! :clap::clap:

I'm still re-reading it and milking the magic juice of it.

It so completely summarizes the actuality of the key, gross outness and why of the CofS operation.

I had not before appreciated such a whole view of it till this above. I had only seen the parts, or the major parts. But this above is a wholly aligned exposition of the actual scenario.

Bloody brilliant :yes::yes:

Rog

Rog said it perfectly and I agree. :clap:

The C/S will approve this fer shoor! :yes::whistling:

EP
 
Many years ago when I read the article, I realized I then had a source of information outside the Hubbard bubble that would help in its evaluation.

What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.

And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.

My own observation went immediately to violations of physiological needs: food, sleep or rest being prominent for SO.

Safety needs are constantly being violated with ethics conditions, face-ripping, attacks and erosion of one's bank accounts and property.

The need for love, affection, and a sense of belonging are violated by justice used as political control.

Consider the people who have attested Clear, gone on to OT-levels, then told they aren't Clear. That's a helluva violation of esteem.

I am certain you can think of your own examples. I initially noted how difficult it is to reach high levels of self-actualization in a dangerous environment, a huge but not the least dangers are having one's bank account and personal integrity always under attack.

We live in a time of tremendous corruption. A few individuals have done what can be done to fix that in their respective areas. Scientology has done nothing but contribute to corruption. When auditing was no longer for the pc but for the organization, the tech was corrupted. Ethics has been redefined to a Hubbard model, and thus corrupted. Admin is corrupting. The stats are everything; the beings's who produce them are just stat slaves.

Hubbard was right about one thing: Tech will not go in when ethics are out.


Very good, Ted. This ties in well with the observation I & many others made back in the early '80s at how many of the leaders & participants in the attempt to reform and subsequent Big Schism were completions on the then recently released Happiness Rundown. Having recently run out their own considerations and "case factors" dealing with convoluted moralities they weren't about to allow a bunch of church dictated "supposed to's" screw up their own personal ethics again. Hence the breach.


Mark A. Baker
 

afaceinthecrowd

Gold Meritorious Patron
JEZZUZZ, that above is bloody brilliant! :clap::clap:

I'm still re-reading it and milking the magic juice of it.

It so completely summarizes the actuality of the key, gross outness and why of the CofS operation.

I had not before appreciated such a whole view of it till this above. I had only seen the parts, or the major parts. But this above is a wholly aligned exposition of the actual scenario.

Bloody brilliant :yes::yes:

Rog

Yes, this is truly bloody, bloody brilliant!:clap::clap:

I'm gonna be chewin' on and brewin' this in me old rumen for a few days.:yes::yes:

I continually realize and am amazed at just how much "dismantling" I have yet to do and stuff like this from Ted and all y'all consistently post is soooooo good and soooooo helpful.:coolwink::coolwink:

Thanks for this, Ted...thanks a whole bunch.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Face:)
 

purple haze

Patron with Honors
Originally Posted by Ted

JEZZUZZ, that above is bloody brilliant! :clap::clap:

I'm still re-reading it and milking the magic juice of it.

It so completely summarizes the actuality of the key, gross outness and why of the CofS operation.

I had not before appreciated such a whole view of it till this above. I had only seen the parts, or the major parts. But this above is a wholly aligned exposition of the actual scenario.

Bloody brilliant :yes::yes:

Rog

spot on both of you!:coolwink::p

still fricken freezing up in Canada:omg:...returning Saturday :):p

time to party, Gary!:happydance:

aloha, purple
 
spot on both of you!:coolwink::p

still fricken freezing up in Canada:omg:...returning Saturday :):p

time to party, Gary!:happydance:

aloha, purple

Keep your coat handy on the plane, PH. It's been d@mn chilly here too. Although, no doubt much warmer than Toronto. Saturday is anticipated 68 hi, 51 low and that's by the beach.


Mark A. Baker
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Hurry Home Purple... Its not the same without you!

spot on both of you!:coolwink::p

still fricken freezing up in Canada:omg:...returning Saturday :):p

time to party, Gary!:happydance:

aloha, purple

On Ted's post, my calendar is so consummed wiith social activities plus my move to a new location that I just quickly perused Ted's post and while giving Ted Kudos, I did not put a lot into the post and give him the kind of credit he really deserves. Roger and others have recognized Ted's post as being landmark and not just a fresh statement of something most people already knew. I want to get on board as well that Ted's post is a landmark post with new original data and is not just a good post but a BRILLIANT post.

For Purple Haze, you are missed, its not the same around here without you! My birthday party is going to be sooo fantastic, I am counting the hours, only about 96 hours until it starts.

THE FINAL CHAPTER OF MY LIFE STARTS WITH THIS PARTY Candy, you said that you wanted to keep me going to age 110. That would give me nearly 40 more years. Well, my Grandma made it to within one month of 106. Anyway, I want the last portion of my life to be very long, well over 20 more years, at least. All the key people in my life who I am closest with will be there. I have representation from high school friends, going back into the 1950's, construction friends, ex Scios, my new "intuitive" friends and then, as they say in Yiddish, the "Mispoche" or family, represented by my ex wife (with her new boyfriend) and my daughter plus 2 first cousins plus one of their spouses. My Son is in France and will be returning to California on Dec 7th, three days after the party. Whenever various factions from my life have met before, mainly the ex Scios and the "intuitives", the sparks have really ignited and great times were had by all.

This party will be a precursor of the final chapter of my life. I will be doing what I want to be doing with whom I want to be with and the focus will be on connecting with people, having tremendous fun and enjoying personal and group expansion. 39 more years of that before moving on?......What an intriguing thought. Perhaps at age 110, I can still darken my hair and people will only take me for not a day over 95!
Lakey aka Gary
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Originally Posted by afaceinthecrowd View Post
I'm big on "interactive triggering".

roy-rogers-trigger-th.jpg

and the opposite

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Ted
What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.

And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.

It blew me out of the water when I read where ACW punched home that an individual's sense of his own RIGHTNESS is intimately connected with his ability to hold a position in space. This leads to the obvious conclusion that PTSness or instability is associated with a lack of integrity in holding one's postion. How could the SO be anything but PTS. The order of the day.....of every day.... routinely....is to assign blame and 'whys' and WRONGNESS. Looking for evil purposes and constant sec checks undermines the lower triangle and makes a person malleable and suseptible to losing their own anchors and accepting someone elses' stable data as the only acceptable way to be RIGHT. ( I watched as a lot of staff over the years disappeared from Miami, Orlando and Tampa and got absorbed into Flag.
The program incident seems to be..."You are not RIGHT" "We will find your CRIMES." "You have hidden counter-intentions to SOURCE." "You now have nowhere to go because we have taken all your ASSETS." "But you can redeem yourself by adopting our values and stable data which will allow you to remain SANE." I swear it all sounds so familiar. Just can't remember from where......:whistling:
 
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lkwdblds

Crusader
More Briallance!

and the opposite

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It blew me out of the water when I read where ACW punched home that an individual's sense of his own RIGHTNESS is intimately connected with his ability to hold a position in space. This leads to the obvious conclusion that PTSness or instability is associated with a lack of integrity in holding one's postion. How could the SO be anything but PTS. The order of the day.....of every day.... routinely....is to assign blame and 'whys' and WRONGNESS. Looking for evil purposes and constant sec checks undermines the lower triangle and makes a person malleable and suseptible to losing their own anchors and accepting someone elses' stable data as the only acceptable way to be RIGHT. ( I watched as a lot of staff over the years disappeared from Miami, Orlando and Tampa and got absorbed into Flag.
The program incident seems to be..."You are not RIGHT" "We will find your CRIMES." "You have hidden counter-intentions to SOURCE." "You now have nowhere to go because we have taken all your ASSETS." "But you can redeem yourself by adopting our values and stable data which will allow you to remain SANE." I swear it all sounds so familiar. Just can't remember from where......:whistling:

Ted's inciteful post seems to have opened the floodgates exposing more of the inconsistencies and falsehoods of the the S.O. and scientology in general. At the tiime sec checking was stepped up, I saw it as tacit admission that the processing people received and the study they did was not effective in truly making a person more sane.

The processing and courses were heavily promoted as "end alls" and were priced as if they were. Despite that, in the practical world, countless sec check intensives had to be paid for and delivered illustrating right from the start that the training and processing were not the "end all" which they were advertised to be.
Lakey
 

Hatshepsut

Crusader
Ted's inciteful post seems to have opened the floodgates exposing more of the inconsistencies and falsehoods of the the S.O. and scientology in general. At the tiime sec checking was stepped up, I saw it as tacit admission that the processing people received and the study they did was not effective in truly making a person more sane.

The processing and courses were heavily promoted as "end alls" and were priced as if they were. Despite that, in the practical world, countless sec check intensives had to be paid for and delivered illustrating right from the start that the training and processing were not the "end all" which they were advertised to be.
Lakey
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In my opinion DM has given off flashing neons cueing us that he believes humans are implanted to thwart his grand purpose and only he has the inside skinny as to the true depth of it. He is at war with the invaders' plan? :nervous: First stressing (for the wrong reasons originally) the FPRD and now this checking to see if PCs have been implanted this lifetime or are apt to become suggestible thru 'sex'...Gimme a break.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO2vLRrMWc

Take a look at this vid below from minutes 7:27 to 8:05 where Marty is telling Mike Rinder that David Miscavige is acting out of an implant and then starts describing which implants he's reminded of from DMs behavior. You can see Mike getting a little embarrassed as he knows the cameras are on them.....he gives Marty a quick succession of half acks and changes the subject. He thinks its bad PR? In the earlier vid by sthtexlensman Marty was joking that Miscavige didn't consider Rinder a good enough liar or wasn't stable enough to pull off an assignment. In this one Mike Rinder seems to be covering up for Marty's espoused beliefs in Scn 8-80 or stage-like implants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eW7_7XSvuI
 
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In my opinion DM has given off flashing neons cueing us that he believes humans are implanted to thwart his grand purpose and only he has the inside skinny as to the true depth of it. He is at war with the invaders' plan? :nervous: First stressing (for the wrong reasons originally) the FPRD and now this checking to see if PCs have been implanted this lifetime or are apt to become suggestible thru 'sex'...Gimme a break.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO2vLRrMWc

Take a look at this vid below from minutes 7:27 to 8:05 where Marty is telling Mike Rinder that David Miscavige is acting out of an implant and then starts describing which implants he's reminded of from DMs behavior. You can see Mike getting a little embarrassed as he knows the cameras are on them.....he gives Marty a quick succession of half acks and changes the subject. He thinks its bad PR? In the earlier vid by sthtexlensman Marty was joking that Miscavige didn't consider Rinder a good enough liar or wasn't stable enough to pull off an assignment. In this one Mike Rinder seems to be covering up for Marty's espoused beliefs in the 8-80 and stage-like implants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eW7_7XSvuI
Marty continues to remind me of Walter Brennan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsnPpt4r7mk
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Connecting up to a ground rod is valid tech!?

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In my opinion DM has given off flashing neons cueing us that he believes humans are implanted to thwart his grand purpose and only he has the inside skinny as to the true depth of it. He is at war with the invaders' plan? :nervous: First stressing (for the wrong reasons originally) the FPRD and now this checking to see if PCs have been implanted this lifetime or are apt to become suggestible thru 'sex'...Gimme a break.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO2vLRrMWc

Take a look at this vid below from minutes 7:27 to 8:05 where Marty is telling Mike Rinder that David Miscavige is acting out of an implant and then starts describing which implants he's reminded of from DMs behavior. You can see Mike getting a little embarrassed as he knows the cameras are on them.....he gives Marty a quick succession of half acks and changes the subject. He thinks its bad PR? In the earlier vid by sthtexlensman Marty was joking that Miscavige didn't consider Rinder a good enough liar or wasn't stable enough to pull off an assignment. In this one Mike Rinder seems to be covering up for Marty's espoused beliefs in the 8-80 and stage-like implants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eW7_7XSvuI

I have tremendous reality on being physically connected very well to the ground when engaging in massaging people and attempting more than just a massage but also attempting to release energy off of their bodies or their cases. I call this an "intuitive" massage. I believe an intuitive type of touch assist can also be performed and probably an intuitive type body comm process as well. I've experienced such touch assists myself.

In 18th and early 19th century Mesmerism, there was transfer of case going on between subject and processor.

Just recently I tried placing my head directly on a person's head to whom I was giving a massage. All knds of somatics jumped from her head to my head. I was not that well grounded and was retaining all her headaches and negative reactions. I had to request a session break and go outside and ground myself by holding on to some large trees. Eventually the somatics ran out into the ground.

One person who asked me for help had been sexually molested as a child. I found aome horribly turbulent energy on the person's head and no amount of finger pressure would discharge it so I put my head directly onto the head of my subject and all of this huge mass transfered on to my head. I felt nauseated and was reeling with disharmony. I actually felt the sensation of a child being molested by a trusted adult. I spent a long time after the session grounding myself to trees, chain link fences, block walls and the like. There was still plenty of this destructive energy on me when I went to bed. Thankfully, when I woke up in the morning, it was gone. I would not recommend doing this and am not going to practice this head to head technique any further. I am glad I did it, 3 times total, just to have reality on it.

I would guess that being well ground to planet Earth is vital in certain types of healing activities where the practitioner has to duplicate the negative energy of a patient in an effort to help the patient get rid of it.
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