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Speaking of Esalen...
Abraham Maslow, 1908 - 1970
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Speaking of Esalen...
Abraham Maslow, 1908 - 1970
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Speaking of Esalen...
Abraham Maslow, 1908 - 1970 [1]
"I was awfully curious to find out why I didn't go insane," remarked
Abraham Maslow, one of the founders of humanistic psychology.
Snipped . . . . .
"Human nature is not nearly as bad as it has been thought to be."
***Creating peak experiences by focusing on them*** [2]
'Peak experiences are not mystical experiences but a normal part of
everyday life' Abraham Maslow, one of the founders of humanistic
psychology, argued that all healthy people have peak experiences, and
that these are not mystical experiences but a normal part of everyday
life. Colin Wilson, in this book's foreword, recounts how Maslow would
get his students to describe peak experiences they'd had in the past
and had then forgotten about. He discovered that once they began to
describe peak experiences and to listen to those of others, they
started having regular peak experiences of their own. Just this act of
focusing on peak experiences and regarding them as a normal and
necessary part of life, was sufficient to induce them.
But Maslow was critical of hippies who were gluttonous in
their approach to spiritual experience - and critical too of growth centres
such as Esalen in Big Sur, California. <http://www.esalen.org/>
In one essay he writes:
We must beware of people who are anti-intellectual, anti-rational,
anti-scientific, and anti-research. ... We must seek knowledge, values,
and wisdom. Why is there no library at Esalen?
We must join health psychology with sickness psychology. Esalen should
not exclude the insights of Sigmund Freud and psychoanalysis.
There needs to be a better balance at Esalen between the Dionysian and
the Apollonian. There needs to be more dignity, politeness, courtesy,
reserve, privacy, responsibility, and loyalty. There should be much
less talk about "instant intimacy" and "instant love" and much more
about the necessity for Apollonian controls such as pace and style.
At places like the Esalen Institute, there must be more
stress on work, discipline, and lifelong effort. The ladder of consciousness
must be climbed gradually, step by step.
It is important to differentiate between peak experiences and plateau
experiences, between the flash of insight and the patient working
through of self-knowledge and between psychedelic experience and
psychotherapy. Esalen staff members tend to view human
personality growth in terms of the big bang of tremendous inner breakthroughs,
but true growth is rather a lifelong task.
'The notion of consciousness for consciousness's sake is amoral' The
notion advocated by many at Esalen of "consciousness for
consciousness's sake" must be criticised and rejected. This notion has
all the inherent evil of "art for art's sake," or "science for
science's sake," or "high intelligence for high intelligence's sake."
The essential point is that all such philosophies are amoral.
'Using other people as a means to alter one's consciousness rather than
to enter an I-thou relationship' The various Being-values must be
determined in terms of each other, or else they can lead to the evil
results that have arisen in the psychedelic or hippie movement today.
With these movements, people tend to search for and value anything that
will produce another intense experience or alteration of ordinary
consciousness. Historically, this ideology has always led in mystical
movements to a kind of selfishness - that is, in using other people
simply as a means to alter one's consciousness rather than to enter
into what Martin Buber has called an I-thou relationship with them.
Such an outlook has usually led to magic and a fascination for such
arcana as astrology, card reading, and numerology.
'These viewpoints have led into sadism because sadism may give new
experiences and may turn some people on' In turn, these activities
historically have led to an anti-rationalism, anti-intellectualism,
anti-science, and, finally, an anti-fact. And then, these viewpoints
ultimately have led into sadism because sadism may give "new
experiences" and may "turn some people on." In any case, with the
"consciousness for consciousness's sake" mystique, there are no
principles by which to criticise an alteration of consciousness, that
is, to say whether it is good or evil or whether it causes good or
evil.
The final product of this whole line of ideological development can be
a death wish, because dying, suicide, and killing can, in themselves,
produce "new experiences" ...
Growth centres like the Esalen Institute must always be
judged by their actual products ... : Do places like Esalen make good
people or bad people? Do they make our society better or worse?
**14 ways of reaching the Being realm**
But besides warning of the dangers, Maslow had his own recommendations
for ways to reach a higher state of being:
(1) Get out of the Deficiency-world by deliberately going into the
Being-realm. Seek out art galleries, libraries, museums, beautiful or
grand trees, and the mountains or seashore.
(2) Contemplate people who are admirable, beautiful, lovable, or
respect-worthy.
(3) Step out into clean air on Mount Olympus. Step into the world of
pure philosophy, pure mathematics, or pure science.
(4) Try narrowed-down absorption or close-up fascination with the small
world, for instance, the ant hill, insects on the ground. Closely
inspect flowers or blades of grass, grains of sand, or the earth. Watch
intently without interfering.
(5) Use the artist's or photographer's trick of seeing the object in
itself. ... Gaze at it for a very long time. Gaze while free
associating or daydreaming.
(6) Be with babies or children for a long period of time. They are
closer to the Being-realm. Sometimes, you can experience the
Being-realm in the presence of animals like kittens, puppies, monkeys,
or apes.
**'Contemplate your life from the historian's viewpoint - 100 or even
1,000 years in the future'**
(7) Contemplate your life from the historian's viewpoint - 100 or even
1,000 years in the future.
(8) Contemplate your life from the viewpoint of a non-human species,
for example, as it might appear to ants.
(9) Imagine that you have only one year left to live.
(10) Contemplate your daily life as though being seen from a great
distance, such as from a remote village in Africa.
(11) Look at a familiar person or situation as though viewing it for
the very first time, freshly.
(12) Look at the same person or situation as though viewing it for the
very last time, for instance, that the individual is going to die
before you see him or her again.
(13) Contemplate the situation through the eyes of the great and wise
sages: Socrates, Spinoza, or Voltaire.
(14) Try addressing yourself, or talking or writing, not to the people
immediately around you but over their shoulders, that is, to history's
great figures like Beethoven, William James, Immanuel Kant, Socrates,
or Alfred Whitehead.
These last two pieces of advice were of course easier for Maslow to
follow than for us less lofty mortals.
[1] <http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/bhmasl.html>
[2] Future Visions - The unpublished papers of Abraham Maslow edited by
Edward Hoffman, published by Sage Publications (2455 Teller Road,
Thousand Oaks, California 91320, USA, e-mail: , UK
tel 020 7 374 0645; 1996, ISBN 0 7919 0051 9; £16-50). Reviewed by
Nicholas Albery. <http://www.globalideasbank.org/crespec/CS-176.HTML>
Wonderful, Ted.
Thanks for posting this. Very apropos.
It also caused me to go to wikipedia to refresh my memory on Emile Coué, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Émile_Coué
There's a link to a free PDF of his book there. It was one of my "bibles" for a number of years before I got in to Scn.
I say your post is apropos because it leads right into some stuff . . . the positive stuff I'll be writing on on my other thread.
Rog
Many years ago when I read the article, I realized I then had a source of information outside the Hubbard bubble that would help in its evaluation.
What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.
And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.
My own observation went immediately to violations of physiological needs: food, sleep or rest being prominent for SO.
Safety needs are constantly being violated with ethics conditions, face-ripping, attacks and erosion of one's bank accounts and property.
The need for love, affection, and a sense of belonging are violated by justice used as political control.
Consider the people who have attested Clear, gone on to OT-levels, then told they aren't Clear. That's a helluva violation of esteem.
I am certain you can think of your own examples. I initially noted how difficult it is to reach high levels of self-actualization in a dangerous environment, a huge but not the least dangers are having one's bank account and personal integrity always under attack.
We live in a time of tremendous corruption. A few individuals have done what can be done to fix that in their respective areas. Scientology has done nothing but contribute to corruption. When auditing was no longer for the pc but for the organization, the tech was corrupted. Ethics has been redefined to a Hubbard model, and thus corrupted. Admin is corrupting. The stats are everything; the beings's who produce them are just stat slaves.
Hubbard was right about one thing: Tech will not go in when ethics are out.
Many years ago when I read the article, I realized I then had a source of information outside the Hubbard bubble that would help in its evaluation.
What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.
And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.
My own observation went immediately to violations of physiological needs: food, sleep or rest being prominent for SO.
Safety needs are constantly being violated with ethics conditions, face-ripping, attacks and erosion of one's bank accounts and property.
The need for love, affection, and a sense of belonging are violated by justice used as political control.
Consider the people who have attested Clear, gone on to OT-levels, then told they aren't Clear. That's a helluva violation of esteem.
I am certain you can think of your own examples. I initially noted how difficult it is to reach high levels of self-actualization in a dangerous environment, a huge but not the least dangers are having one's bank account and personal integrity always under attack.
We live in a time of tremendous corruption. A few individuals have done what can be done to fix that in their respective areas. Scientology has done nothing but contribute to corruption. When auditing was no longer for the pc but for the organization, the tech was corrupted. Ethics has been redefined to a Hubbard model, and thus corrupted. Admin is corrupting. The stats are everything; the beings's who produce them are just stat slaves.
Hubbard was right about one thing: Tech will not go in when ethics are out.




JEZZUZZ, that above is bloody brilliant!
I'm still re-reading it and milking the magic juice of it.
It so completely summarizes the actuality of the key, gross outness and why of the CofS operation.
I had not before appreciated such a whole view of it till this above. I had only seen the parts, or the major parts. But this above is a wholly aligned exposition of the actual scenario.
Bloody brilliant
Rog



Ted;505521 Consider the people who have attested Clear said:I've met OTs who have had to go through that 5 times.

Many years ago when I read the article, I realized I then had a source of information outside the Hubbard bubble that would help in its evaluation.
What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.
And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.
My own observation went immediately to violations of physiological needs: food, sleep or rest being prominent for SO.
Safety needs are constantly being violated with ethics conditions, face-ripping, attacks and erosion of one's bank accounts and property.
The need for love, affection, and a sense of belonging are violated by justice used as political control.
Consider the people who have attested Clear, gone on to OT-levels, then told they aren't Clear. That's a helluva violation of esteem.
I am certain you can think of your own examples. I initially noted how difficult it is to reach high levels of self-actualization in a dangerous environment, a huge but not the least dangers are having one's bank account and personal integrity always under attack.
We live in a time of tremendous corruption. A few individuals have done what can be done to fix that in their respective areas. Scientology has done nothing but contribute to corruption. When auditing was no longer for the pc but for the organization, the tech was corrupted. Ethics has been redefined to a Hubbard model, and thus corrupted. Admin is corrupting. The stats are everything; the beings's who produce them are just stat slaves.
Hubbard was right about one thing: Tech will not go in when ethics are out.
JEZZUZZ, that above is bloody brilliant!
I'm still re-reading it and milking the magic juice of it.
It so completely summarizes the actuality of the key, gross outness and why of the CofS operation.
I had not before appreciated such a whole view of it till this above. I had only seen the parts, or the major parts. But this above is a wholly aligned exposition of the actual scenario.
Bloody brilliant
Rog





JEZZUZZ, that above is bloody brilliant!
I'm still re-reading it and milking the magic juice of it.
It so completely summarizes the actuality of the key, gross outness and why of the CofS operation.
I had not before appreciated such a whole view of it till this above. I had only seen the parts, or the major parts. But this above is a wholly aligned exposition of the actual scenario.
Bloody brilliant
Rog

...returning Saturday 
spot on both of you!
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aloha, purple
spot on both of you!
still fricken freezing up in Canada...returning Saturday
time to party, Gary!
aloha, purple
Originally Posted by afaceinthecrowd View Post
I'm big on "interactive triggering".
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Ted
What I saw was an impossible situation for most beings seeking enlightenment through Hubbard's system. The system marketed and sold people on the idea of self-actualization, Maslow's apex on his triangle of needs. This is what the right hand was doing. The left hand busied itself dismantling the being's triangle at the lower levels. In other words, the system rips out the base of the triangle leaving the apex, self-actualization, on shaky foundation.
And you wonder why a Release, Clear, OT-whatever can go PTS? The first and foremost "PTS to" is the church itself and the Hubbard system of management.

and the opposite
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It blew me out of the water when I read where ACW punched home that an individual's sense of his own RIGHTNESS is intimately connected with his ability to hold a position in space. This leads to the obvious conclusion that PTSness or instability is associated with a lack of integrity in holding one's postion. How could the SO be anything but PTS. The order of the day.....of every day.... routinely....is to assign blame and 'whys' and WRONGNESS. Looking for evil purposes and constant sec checks undermines the lower triangle and makes a person malleable and suseptible to losing their own anchors and accepting someone elses' stable data as the only acceptable way to be RIGHT. ( I watched as a lot of staff over the years disappeared from Miami, Orlando and Tampa and got absorbed into Flag.
The program incident seems to be..."You are not RIGHT" "We will find your CRIMES." "You have hidden counter-intentions to SOURCE." "You now have nowhere to go because we have taken all your ASSETS." "But you can redeem yourself by adopting our values and stable data which will allow you to remain SANE." I swear it all sounds so familiar. Just can't remember from where......![]()
'Ted's inciteful post seems to have opened the floodgates exposing more of the inconsistencies and falsehoods of the the S.O. and scientology in general. At the tiime sec checking was stepped up, I saw it as tacit admission that the processing people received and the study they did was not effective in truly making a person more sane.
The processing and courses were heavily promoted as "end alls" and were priced as if they were. Despite that, in the practical world, countless sec check intensives had to be paid for and delivered illustrating right from the start that the training and processing were not the "end all" which they were advertised to be.
Lakey
First stressing (for the wrong reasons originally) the FPRD and now this checking to see if PCs have been implanted this lifetime or are apt to become suggestible thru 'sex'...Gimme a break. Marty continues to remind me of Walter Brennan'
In my opinion DM has given off flashing neons cueing us that he believes humans are implanted to thwart his grand purpose and only he has the inside skinny as to the true depth of it. He is at war with the invaders' plan?First stressing (for the wrong reasons originally) the FPRD and now this checking to see if PCs have been implanted this lifetime or are apt to become suggestible thru 'sex'...Gimme a break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO2vLRrMWc
Take a look at this vid below from minutes 7:27 to 8:05 where Marty is telling Mike Rinder that David Miscavige is acting out of an implant and then starts describing which implants he's reminded of from DMs behavior. You can see Mike getting a little embarrassed as he knows the cameras are on them.....he gives Marty a quick succession of half acks and changes the subject. He thinks its bad PR? In the earlier vid by sthtexlensman Marty was joking that Miscavige didn't consider Rinder a good enough liar or wasn't stable enough to pull off an assignment. In this one Mike Rinder seems to be covering up for Marty's espoused beliefs in the 8-80 and stage-like implants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eW7_7XSvuI
Yeah, he kinda does. Only in this vid Walter aint got no teeth.Now who does Mike remind us of?
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In my opinion DM has given off flashing neons cueing us that he believes humans are implanted to thwart his grand purpose and only he has the inside skinny as to the true depth of it. He is at war with the invaders' plan?First stressing (for the wrong reasons originally) the FPRD and now this checking to see if PCs have been implanted this lifetime or are apt to become suggestible thru 'sex'...Gimme a break.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO2vLRrMWc
Take a look at this vid below from minutes 7:27 to 8:05 where Marty is telling Mike Rinder that David Miscavige is acting out of an implant and then starts describing which implants he's reminded of from DMs behavior. You can see Mike getting a little embarrassed as he knows the cameras are on them.....he gives Marty a quick succession of half acks and changes the subject. He thinks its bad PR? In the earlier vid by sthtexlensman Marty was joking that Miscavige didn't consider Rinder a good enough liar or wasn't stable enough to pull off an assignment. In this one Mike Rinder seems to be covering up for Marty's espoused beliefs in the 8-80 and stage-like implants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eW7_7XSvuI