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I AM A CHRISTIAN SCIENTOLOGIST

I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN.


Pip, being that you are NOT a Christian I am wondering why you'd name your new religion ChristianScientology? :confused2:

If you've already answered that question I apologize in advance. I gave this thread a break for some days.

Anyways, YOU are the Founder of this "new religion for the 21'st century" as you promote it on your website. You are not a Christian. You could have chosen any name for this religion yet you picked "ChristianScientology".

Why?
 
I have created the first new religion of the 21st century - ScientoChristianity (TM).

It's nothing like Christian Scientology

Anyone can join whose mind is so open their brains have fallen out. Bring your cheque book.
 
I know that Clarence! but as I have said elsewhere I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN. I am a fellower of a Jew called Jesus. Now just who this Jew was and is can only be known by revelation. Can we build from what we can agree on.

It is my understanding that some 2000 years ago there was a boy born to Jewish parents and they called this boy Jesus or whatever the Jewish equivalent was. He grew up to be a teacher and what he was teaching appeared to contradict the conventional teaching in his culture at that time. As a result he was put to death by crucifixion. Are we agreed about the story so far?
He didn't consider himself to be just a teacher. He said that no man could pass unto the Father save through him. Kind of a big ego for a teacher, don't you think? It's at this point that you should be giving him the finger and finding someone else to 'follow'. Only known by revelation? Why? Do the cops have to have a revelation to find a missing person. Why a revelation for a missing teacher? A missing teacher who told people to hate their parents. For that alone he deserved to be executed.

And as you know perfectly well, his followers consider him to be a diety. That would include you, I take it. Is there any particular reason why you do? Now, you seem not to know who or what he is. You admit it. Why would you worship such a figure? For he is worshipped. If you don't worship him, then why bother? Try Eckhart Tolle. THERE is a teacher! Revelation and hallucination can be bedfellows. I'd study the scene very closely if I were you.
 
Pip,

Your chosen label/religion is your choice entirely and there's no need to constantly explain it.

Why are you on an Ex scio message board though, have you come here to save us?

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Hi I.T.Y.I.W.T. I get that. As to why I am on an ex-scio message board, I suppose firstly because I like you, and want to be friends with all. And yes! if I can introduce you to your saviour, that's a bonus.
 
Pip, being that you are NOT a Christian I am wondering why you'd name your new religion ChristianScientology? :confused2:

If you've already answered that question I apologize in advance. I gave this thread a break for some days.

Anyways, YOU are the Founder of this "new religion for the 21'st century" as you promote it on your website. You are not a Christian. You could have chosen any name for this religion yet you picked "ChristianScientology".

Why?

When one combines Christianity and Scientology something brand new is created. Perhaps like combining Oxygen and Hydrogen we get water. To say it is not oxygen or hydrogen would be as confusing as saying it is oxygen or hydrogen no it is water.

I love being asked this question, and have been on many occasions, and each time I find a new way of attempting to explain what I am saying.

ChristianityScientology is indeed the religion for the 21st Century, but it is not my religion but God's. He says through James that the religion that is acceptable to Him is "to look after orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being tainted by the word". James 1:27. Traditionally Christianity would not fit this discription and nor would Scientology. To fulfil what is acceptable to God we need both love and understanding, hence ChristianScientology.
 
I have created the first new religion of the 21st century - ScientoChristianity (TM).

It's nothing like Christian Scientology

Anyone can join whose mind is so open their brains have fallen out. Bring your cheque book.

The wonderful thing about ChristianScientology is that it is completely free. Because it is not man-made there is no charge. It works on the premise that "only an unhealed healer charges". (A Course in Miracles)
 
He didn't consider himself to be just a teacher. He said that no man could pass unto the Father save through him. Kind of a big ego for a teacher, don't you think? It's at this point that you should be giving him the finger and finding someone else to 'follow'. Only known by revelation? Why? Do the cops have to have a revelation to find a missing person. Why a revelation for a missing teacher? A missing teacher who told people to hate their parents. For that alone he deserved to be executed.

And as you know perfectly well, his followers consider him to be a diety. That would include you, I take it. Is there any particular reason why you do? Now, you seem not to know who or what he is. You admit it. Why would you worship such a figure? For he is worshipped. If you don't worship him, then why bother? Try Eckhart Tolle. THERE is a teacher! Revelation and hallucination can be bedfellows. I'd study the scene very closely if I were you.

Hi Clarence, thanks for your reply. He did indeed say that, but it has been grossly mis-understood. What he is saying is that G-D is spirit, so to join with the Father we must be spiritual.

Just as we learn in Scientology that two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time, so to become "one with the Father" we must recognise our true identity - a no-thing - Holy Spirit (wholly spirit) - theta.

It is the ego that stops us recognising our spiritual essence. Jesus' job was to encourage us to recognise this essence as he had.

He, that is his teaching, can only be known by revelation because to do so necessitates going beyond the human mind. The teaching about hating your parents is to emphasis the supremacy of the need to focus on your true identity that lies beyond family ties and cultral orientations.

As for him being a diety if that is used in the sense of 'of God' then that is true for each of us. That is why I struggle with Christians (a bit) because they often think they are miserable sinners, when scripture says that if they have received the word of God they are a god (that is divine). So I see Jesus divine, in the same way I see each of us as divine, as well as you Clarence. I do not worship Jesus, I worship God through Jesus.

Incidentally I think Eckhart Tolle is great. I have read two of his books and also been to hear him talk. His understanding of God as Being is interesting, although I do like what Zizioulas has to say at www.leithart.com/archives/print/003435.php Thanks for your advice.

Love
Pip
 
Hi Clarence, thanks for your reply. He did indeed say that, but it has been grossly mis-understood. What he is saying is that G-D is spirit, so to join with the Father we must be spiritual.

Just as we learn in Scientology that two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time, so to become "one with the Father" we must recognise our true identity - a no-thing - Holy Spirit (wholly spirit) - theta.

It is the ego that stops us recognising our spiritual essence. Jesus' job was to encourage us to recognise this essence as he had.

He, that is his teaching, can only be known by revelation because to do so necessitates going beyond the human mind. The teaching about hating your parents is to emphasis the supremacy of the need to focus on your true identity that lies beyond family ties and cultral orientations.

As for him being a diety if that is used in the sense of 'of God' then that is true for each of us. That is why I struggle with Christians (a bit) because they often think they are miserable sinners, when scripture says that if they have received the word of God they are a god (that is divine). So I see Jesus divine, in the same way I see each of us as divine, as well as you Clarence. I do not worship Jesus, I worship God through Jesus.

Incidentally I think Eckhart Tolle is great. I have read two of his books and also been to hear him talk. His understanding of God as Being is interesting, although I do like what Zizioulas has to say at www.leithart.com/archives/print/003435.php Thanks for your advice.

Love
Pip
Try worshipping G-d without going through anybody. I think you'll find it far more edifying. You'll begin to see that Jesus is wholly superfluous. Also, your mumbo jumbo to remove the egomanical bullshit of 'I am the Light and the Way' is typical. It's just a bunch of insulting double-talk. Gnostics do a lot of that. He didn't really mean this he meant that when he said this. It's not worthy of you Pip. It's a low paltry device used to make bullshit respectable. It doesn't work with me. It doesn't work with those who aren't easily humbugged. You apparently are. If we are all divine then where is your church? Where is mine? We are all Gods? Hello, Shirley McClaine. Goodbye Pip.
 
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Hi I.T.Y.I.W.T. I get that. As to why I am on an ex-scio message board, I suppose firstly because I like you, and want to be friends with all. And yes! if I can introduce you to your saviour, that's a bonus.
You're not a Christian, but you want to introduce people to their Saviour? Sure Pip, you can feed the rabbits!

You recently explained how he isn't a divinity with a bunch of mealymouthed whitewash, and now he's her saviour. A mental case who defiled the one monotheistic religion in the world (that we know of) at the time, a thousand different ways; and he's somebody's saviour. If he's a saviour, I'm the emperor of Outer Mongolia.
 
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Not the Messiah ...

Hi I.T.Y.I.W.T. I get that. As to why I am on an ex-scio message board, I suppose firstly because I like you, and want to be friends with all. And yes! if I can introduce you to your saviour, that's a bonus.



I suppose we deserve that, based on past gullibility.


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Pip, I think it's more that you created your own religion. Just a word of caution, though-- don't evangelize here. People really aren't going to be receptive to that.

But on the upside, Clarence now has nothing to worry about. Since your religion only exists in your world, then you clearly didn't cause the Holocaust. :coolwink::lol:
 
Try worshipping G-d without going through anybody. I think you'll find it far more edifying. You'll begin to see that Jesus is wholly superfluous. Also, your mumbo jumbo to remove the egomanical bullshit of 'I am the Light and the Way' is typical. It's just a bunch of insulting double-talk. Gnostics do a lot of that. He didn't really mean this he meant that when he said this. It's not worthy of you Pip. It's a low paltry device used to make bullshit respectable. It doesn't work with me. It doesn't work with those who aren't easily humbugged. You apparently are. If we are all divine then where is your church? Where is mine? We are all Gods? Hello, Shirley McClaine. Goodbye Pip.

Oh ye of little faith. I would have thought someone like you would have understood the communication formula, you know Cause, Distance, Effect, and all that. The important part in this instance is the duplication. As our 'illustrious mentor' says (that's Ron to you and me) a thing cannot duplicate a no-thing. If God is spirit and He is, then we as human beings cannot duplicate him. We need a mediator someone who is both a thing and a no-thing. The rest is 'his-story' as they say.

Incidentally I have met Shirley McClaine here in London at a charity dinner. I had just finished reading her book "Out on a Limb". Just thought I would throw that in for good measure.

Love
Pip
 
You're not a Christian, but you want to introduce people their Saviour? Sure Pip, you can feed the rabbits!

You recently explained how he isn't a divinity with a bunch of mealymouthed whitewash, and now he's her saviour. A mental case who defiled the one monotheistic religion in the world (that we know of) at the time, a thousand different ways; and he's somebody's saviour. If he's a saviour, I'm the emperor of Outer Mongolia.

What's this 'feed the rabbits'. Really Clarence you must try to duplicate me. I never said he (that is Jesus) was not 'A' divinity but he is not 'The' divinity. Jesus is The Son of God, just as you and I are.

At no time did I say Jesus was I.T.Y.I.W.T's saviour, these are your words, she might disagree.

I just had to send you this, it was in my In Box today.

Perils of a Catholic Upbringing.​

As I walked down the busy sidewalk, knowing I was late for Mass, my eye fell upon one of those unfortunate, homeless vagabonds that are found in every city these days.




Some people turned to stare. Others quickly looked away as if the sight would somehow contaminate them.



Recalling my old pastor, Father Mike, who always admonished me to 'care for the sick, feed the hungry and clothe the naked,' I was moved by some powerful inner urge to reach out to this unfortunate person.




Wearing what can only be described as rags, carrying every worldly possession in two plastic bags, my heart was touched by this person's condition.




Yes, where some people saw only rags, I saw a true, hidden beauty.




A small voice inside my head called out, 'Reach out, reach out and touch this person!'
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[hey Clarence, is "Don't get bitter, get even" your motto? If Scn does nt do it for you why even get into discussion. Secretly you still love it but are in denial big time. You need to do some radical forgiveness work as you won't be going anywhere with that closed critical attitude! You should get a move on, as at your age, you are on borrowed time. Surely you are not so naive to believe in Satan, I don't. And while we're at it you probably see God as some old bearded man living in the sky. My God is my level of consciousness! Wake up Rockway before it's to late. Hey oldies leave us newbee's alone!=Clarence Rockaway;594817]Have you been to the Ex-Scientology Kids website? You sound like you're twelve years old. 'The influence of this stuff does not leave?' Oh Honey, you really need some help quick. Look, if Scn. covers so many aspects of survival, how come it has a suicide list a mile long? Including one of LRH's own offspring. Tech=Shreck. Why don't you just go back in? Seriously, Scn. and Christianity are perfectly compatible. Both have a history of torture and enslavement. The heads of both were delusional. One thought he was God, the other behaved as if he were. (Secretly he wanted to be Satan). Both have followers on whom reason and sanity have no effect. Eureka! I think you found it.[/QUOTE]
 
Oh ye of little faith. I would have thought someone like you would have understood the communication formula, you know Cause, Distance, Effect, and all that. The important part in this instance is the duplication. As our 'illustrious mentor' says (that's Ron to you and me) a thing cannot duplicate a no-thing. If God is spirit and He is, then we as human beings cannot duplicate him. We need a mediator someone who is both a thing and a no-thing. The rest is 'his-story' as they say.

Incidentally I have met Shirley McClaine here in London at a charity dinner. I had just finished reading her book "Out on a Limb". Just thought I would throw that in for good measure.

Love
Pip
A spirit is not a no thing. It is a thing, though untangible. And a teacher cannot be a no thing, save in the imagination of a spiritual simpleton. We don't need to duplicate God, we only need to get into communication with him/her/it. Thus we don't need a mentor. As to all the celebs you've met, I've lost track. But maybe you should put a sign out infront of your dock, reading "Look out for falling names."
 
[hey Clarence, is "Don't get bitter, get even" your motto? If Scn does nt do it for you why even get into discussion. Secretly you still love it but are in denial big time. You need to do some radical forgiveness work as you won't be going anywhere with that closed critical attitude! You should get a move on, as at your age, you are on borrowed time. Surely you are not so naive to believe in Satan, I don't. And while we're at it you probably see God as some old bearded man living in the sky. My God is my level of consciousness! Wake up Rockway before it's to late. Hey oldies leave us newbee's alone!=Clarence Rockaway;594817]Have you been to the Ex-Scientology Kids website? You sound like you're twelve years old. 'The influence of this stuff does not leave?' Oh Honey, you really need some help quick. Look, if Scn. covers so many aspects of survival, how come it has a suicide list a mile long? Including one of LRH's own offspring. Tech=Shreck. Why don't you just go back in? Seriously, Scn. and Christianity are perfectly compatible. Both have a history of torture and enslavement. The heads of both were delusional. One thought he was God, the other behaved as if he were. (Secretly he wanted to be Satan). Both have followers on whom reason and sanity have no effect. Eureka! I think you found it.
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Wow! You sure know a lot about someone you never met, or even heard of before three months ago. I secretly love Scn. I conceive of God as a bearded old man in the sky. It seems I don't even have to show up. You've got me all capsulated. I'm not yet seventy but I haven't got much time. What, you've hired a hit man? "If Scn. doesn't do it for you, why get into a discussion?" is what you said. "Well, Einstein, this is an EX-scientology site. Since you do believe in it. Why are YOU here? Do yourself and everyone else a favor. Don't hang out your shingle as a therapist, you're hopelessly unsuited for it.
 
What's this 'feed the rabbits'. Really Clarence you must try to duplicate me. I never said he (that is Jesus) was not 'A' divinity but he is not 'The' divinity. Jesus is The Son of God, just as you and I are.

At no time did I say Jesus was I.T.Y.I.W.T's saviour, these are your words, she might disagree.

I just had to send you this, it was in my In Box today.


Perils of a Catholic Upbringing.



As I walked down the busy sidewalk, knowing I was late for Mass, my eye fell upon one of those unfortunate, homeless vagabonds that are found in every city these days.




Some people turned to stare. Others quickly looked away as if the sight would somehow contaminate them.​
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Recalling my old pastor, Father Mike, who always admonished me to 'care for the sick, feed the hungry and clothe the naked,' I was moved by some powerful inner urge to reach out to this unfortunate person.​
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Wearing what can only be described as rags, carrying every worldly possession in two plastic bags, my heart was touched by this person's condition.​
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Yes, where some people saw only rags, I saw a true, hidden beauty.​
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A small voice inside my head called out, 'Reach out, reach out and touch this person!'​
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That's a funny joke. As for not referring I.T.Y.I.W.T,to Jesus... on this thread #424 you offered to introduce her to her saviour. Who else were we talking about other than the nutzoid from Nazareth? Who were you planning on introducing her to, Dirty Gertie from Bizerte?
 
That's a funny joke. As for not referring I.T.Y.I.W.T,to Jesus... on this thread #424 you offered to introduce her to her saviour. Who else were we talking about other than the nutzoid from Nazareth? Who were you planning on introducing her to, Dirty Gertie from Bizerte?



Ooooh, now your talking (at least she sounds like she'd be a laugh).
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