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Enthetan

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@ around 1:27 Sylvia Standard says "congolmerations of scientologists" LOL :omg:

Sylvia really comes across as rather lacking in education.

Not only does Scien lie.....they hide.

Second-generation Scientologists tend to have their educations neglected.

I remember a friend telling me about a conversation he had with a staff member some years back. He had noticed that the staff member's young daughter was functionally illiterate, and asked her if she was taking any steps to handle that. The staff member said "It doesn't matter, she's just going to go into the Sea Org". The attitude blew my friend's mind.
 

Karen#1

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Former Sea Org member Mark Fisher served as "Corporate Liason" a fictitious post or job to pretend separation of the the for-profit Author Services and the management of the Church.
In Part one of this series, Mark talks about day to day operations
giving up college for what he then thought was a "noble cause"
Didn't we all !
Mark was spied on with Private Investigators for some 25 years after he left. ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cWZSE4LgMk
 

Gib

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Former Sea Org member Mark Fisher served as "Corporate Liason" a fictitious post or job to pretend separation of the the for-profit Author Services and the management of the Church.
In Part one of this series, Mark talks about day to day operations
giving up college for what he then thought was a "noble cause"
Didn't we all !
Mark was spied on with Private Investigators for some 25 years after he left. ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cWZSE4LgMk

Thanks Mark,

I was like you, if I'm on staff, I'm gonna get the training auditing and study time. I was a big promoter for that while on staff. Standard tech an all. :hysterical:
 

Karen#1

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Note the language of David Miscavige.
"The War is over" He called it a *WAR*.
He did not say, "We settled with the IRS and negotiated a good outcome"
No, Miscavige says "The WAR is Over !"
All the while the Cult craves recognition as a RELIGION.
Hobnobbing at Religious conferences, pretending religiosity and not confessing that their "Commanding officer" lieutenant commander Joe Schmo in his lanyards and fake insignia and navy cap had screamed 1/2 hour earlier to "get the product".
This video gives you glimpses behind the scenes of The War is over"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_nYZDThj84
 

Opter

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Thank you for another good video.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


Life as a SO member-especially working with/close to DM_ is horrible.:angry::omg:



Opter
 

Karen#1

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This video is not really a discussion into the theology of Scientology Inc although it might appear to be without seeing Part 2.
It is more a whistle blowing of the deception because new people walking in the door often ask the question and it is answered evasively with a hush. The answer will be discovered on OT levels or some such.
Why not say straight out that this is a Church with no God? Why not acknowledge that ?
By the way the *Way to Happiness* moral code which suddenly emerged in the 1980s was from Religious Academics stating what components make a Religion, one of which was a Moral code like the "Ten Commandments."
Religious Cloaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u5bAfcq5kA
 

Karen#1

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Lots of previously undisclosed stories, Tom Cruise Stories.
Hierarchy insider stories and always...
continuing purges.
Just another coup.
Just another Purge.
Just another bloodbath in the mentality of power and paranoid cosmic
psycho-politics in the "Church" of Scientology
Good history from Mark Fisher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ip9X2XwVc
 

cleared cannibal

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This video is not really a discussion into the theology of Scientology Inc although it might appear to be without seeing Part 2.
It is more a whistle blowing of the deception because new people walking in the door often ask the question and it is answered evasively with a hush. The answer will be discovered on OT levels or some such.
Why not say straight out that this is a Church with no God? Why not acknowledge that ?
By the way the *Way to Happiness* moral code which suddenly emerged in the 1980s was from Religious Academics stating what components make a Religion, one of which was a Moral code like the "Ten Commandments."
Religious Cloaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u5bAfcq5kA

It's nice to see someone voice what I feel. It is almost uncanny how my own case followed what you said. I did ok in processing until after the grades and probably the reason I am a cleared cannibal is that I had so many disagreements with the course materials. You could have probably pieced this video together if you went back and looked at my posts here on ESMB.

It's nice to know that at least some one else thinks like me on this. I have been told so many times over the last few years that I am wrong or I just don't understand what hubbard is trying to say. Bull I know exactly what he is saying and I disagree.

You know I think I got a release with this video. Where is the examiner!!!
 

HelluvaHoax!

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@ around 1:27 Sylvia Standard says "congolmerations of scientologists" LOL :omg:

Sylvia really comes across as rather lacking in education.

Not only does Scien lie.....they hide.


LOLOL.

That's exactly how she comes across. She has been educated in Scientology and the stench of her having spent decades STUDYING & DRILLING on how to lie is overwhelming.

But, on that "conglomerations of Scientologists", she may in fact be telling the truth. . .

conglomeration
n.
1. the act of conglomerating or the state of being conglomerated.​
2. a cohering mass; cluster.
3. a mixed collection: a conglomeration of ideas.



:giggle:


 
Former Sea Org member Mark Fisher served as "Corporate Liason" a fictitious post or job to pretend separation of the the for-profit Author Services and the management of the Church.
In Part one of this series, Mark talks about day to day operations
giving up college for what he then thought was a "noble cause"
Didn't we all !
Mark was spied on with Private Investigators for some 25 years after he left. ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cWZSE4LgMk

Jeff - can you do something about the sound on your next pod cast? The sound warbles, goes soft and loud etc. on this one. Thanks Mimsey
 

Karen#1

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Mimsey please check your end

1) Your internet speed and connection and connectivity
2) Your computer.

No one else has sound problems on these podcasts. We have the very best equipment...

Thanks !
 

sallydannce

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Mimsey please check your end

1) Your internet speed and connection and connectivity
2) Your computer.

No one else has sound problems on these podcasts. We have the very best equipment...

Thanks !

Sound is fine for me here out in the middle of nowhere (but-very-nice-middle-of-nowhere). :)
 
Ok - it's ATT DSL. OOkla said 62 ms on ping, 4.04 mbps on download, and 0,64 mbs on upload whatever in hell that means. Lessee. Google, um what do my test results mean? Umm - What! I'm pregnant!??!! Oops. lemme try that again... Ah. There it is. Thank god for geeks
4-6 Mbps
According to the Federal Communications Commission, this is the minimum speed "generally required for using today's video rich broadband applications and services." Users at this speed should not have any trouble with streaming audio or video. Service at this speed will allow some file sharing and should work fine for streaming Internet TV (IP TV).
Ehh.. lessee the other one... dum de dum... I have a rich uncle in Uganda? Wow. Didn't know that. Oh, here it is:
We have a 2 Minute Miracle video on our YouTube channel that will show you how to...
Ahh. I think I'll just book mark that.. Ahem.

Well, lemme just sort of paraphrase - it says "you're cool" or something like that.

So, jeeze. Sorry please tell Jeff I am sorry and it won't happen again.

Mimsey
 

sallydannce

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Ok - it's ATT DSL. OOkla said 62 ms on ping, 4.04 mbps on download, and 0,64 mbs on upload whatever in hell that means. Lessee. Google, um what do my test results mean? Umm - What! I'm pregnant!??!! Oops. lemme try that again... Ah. There it is. Thank god for geeks Ehh.. lessee the other one... dum de dum... I have a rich uncle in Uganda? Wow. Didn't know that. Oh, here it is: Ahh. I think I'll just book mark that.. Ahem.

Well, lemme just sort of paraphrase - it says "you're cool" or something like that.

So, jeeze. Sorry please tell Jeff I am sorry and it won't happen again.

Mimsey

Congratulations on your wonderful news about pending little bundle of joy. :wink2:

And how lovely you have a rich uncle in Uganda. Just lovely. :)
 

Karen#1

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This anecdotal history of Anne Tidman's death history covers a bigger picture within Radical Official Scientology. It is how they cover up a death. Death is treated as an embarrassment, distasteful, "Bad PR"
Anne served in the Sea Org decades. Find out what happened when she died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuvusO-28PQ
 
Karen - I felt exactly the same way when Gretchen Swartz passed away at her desk at FSC. They did nothing. I have known her for years, and she was a good friend. At least ASHO gave a damn about Ruthie and did the right thing. They had a good service for her, and it was packed. Unfortunately DM will get an obituary when he starts feeding worms, but he won't deserve it.

Personally, I hope they toss him up in a tree and let the vultures pick his bones dry.

Mimsey
 

Leland

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Mimsey...I was going to PM..and ask...but may as well do so here. I am bad at names and faces...

Was Gretchen Swartz the young willowy blonde girl at FSC?

Was Ruthie at ASHO....the very heavy set red headed woman? If not do you know the red headed womans' name?

Do you know anything about the current status of those two OT 8 FSC FSMs.....I believe "Barbara and Francine" were their names. One fat, one tiny and thin.

Do you know anything current about FSC OT 8 FSM Shihab Emrani.....or OT 8 Meri Dolan (she remarried...so last name would be different.)

Thanks so much.

Sorry for the thread derail....
 
Mimsey...I was going to PM..and ask...but may as well do so here. I am bad at names and faces...

Was Gretchen Swartz the young willowy blonde girl at FSC?

Was Ruthie at ASHO....the very heavy set red headed woman? If not do you know the red headed womans' name?

Do you know anything about the current status of those two OT 8 FSC FSMs.....I believe "Barbara and Francine" were their names. One fat, one tiny and thin.

Do you know anything current about FSC OT 8 FSM Shihab Emrani.....or OT 8 Meri Dolan (she remarried...so last name would be different.)

Thanks so much.

Sorry for the thread derail....

Gretchen was the head of the FSC for quite a while - she was a brunette, and overweight - in her 50's - The willowy blonde may be Ann Mintz. Ruthie was skinny as a rail - the only tiny and fat FSM's I knew were Wendy Ettrics and Joanne Schnitzer. I couldn't find any pictures of them on google. Dunno to your other q's. Mimsey
 

Karen#1

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The video is not a debate on whether there is or is not a God. It is about Scientology Inc evasiveness on admission that it is Church without a God.
I am in touch with so many who served the Church 20 years, 30 years, 40 years and exited. They are in very very rough shape, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
The *Church* that was supposed to make them higher and enlightened spiritual beings battered, clobbered and abused them.
Some have PTSD symptoms from serving in the Sea Org with sleep deprivation and imprisonment. They have nightmares.
And all along they were made to believe they were *saving* the planet ! Clearing the planet !
Oh my.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6-hs3c_NTM
 

RogerB

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Karen and Jeffrey . . . again brilliant stuff!

Hearing this today, I was caused to reflect on my experience of Scientology from my first joining in 1957, and I have to say you two have summed up the deception of it succinctly and exactly.

Yes, they do sell and falsely promise "you being at cause" while they indeed practice the inversion of subjugation of all who get involved . . . of course, that is the exact nature of cults: all who enter are cultized by the methods of domination and subjugation practiced therein. And a key to the practice of cultization is the false promises and deception of untrue principles taught by it.

One must realize that the nature of all successful deception is that the falsehoods and damaging lies are always hidden under the wrapping of what is wanted by the sucker and apparently true based on inability to do a full inspection of the "product" . . . One must realize that the Scientology enterprise is a cleverly constructed set up with well schooled zealots in presenting Scientology carrots while skillfully hiding the sticks they will later beat you with . . . and one MUST realize that these zealots actually believe that being "beaten" by those sticks is good for you!

As I reflect on it, I observe there is actually no freedom of choice in or within or if you are in any way associated with the cult of Scientology . . . to exert one's own views of belief or sovereign volition, per its own doctrines, results in you being disciplined and subjugated to "ethics handlings" that employ the threat . . . the actual dire threat they have inculcated in you . . . of the loss of your spiritual eternity.

This "standard Scientology" practice of theirs is on a par with the medieval Church of Rome practice of burning heretics and witches. You disagree or see differently than the Scientology doctrine; you dare to wish to stand by your family who do not see eye to eye with Scientology dogma, and you are subjected to its written doctrinal policy that demands the organization apply its disciplinary technology to, to use their phrase: "Give you a severe reality adjustment."

The cancerous evil that is Scientology only becomes real to a person after getting sucked in through the cleverly structured introductory materials that promise deceptive but sweet sounding promises of what you "can achieve."

But, having done the route and knowing intimately many others who have, I can truthfully say the Scientology promise of its ultimate and "upper level" results is false. And I can assert this in the context of having worked with others who had been through the Scientology "standard technology" grinder of lies to both correct and repair Scientology false technology, errors and damage and myself being able to participate in the development of more honest, truthful, exact and more highly workable practices to attain what we went into Scientology to attempt to attain.
 
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