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Discussion in 'David Miscavige and Current Management' started by Free to shine, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    For 25 years all Sea Org women were forced to have abortions.
    It was implemented sadistically.
    I posted Claire Headley's report a few posts back....
    [​IMG]
    Claire Headley


    I experienced an unforgettable scene at the Medical Liason's office The MLO was kind and compassionate and she did various things. Three other girls were with the MLO. They were back from abortions at Riverside Planned Parenthood.

    They are pale, they look bleak and wiped out, all were ashen faced. That's how you look after anesthesia. One of them asked the MLO if she could take the rest of the day off to rest. She asked for note from the MLO to give to her senior as she was still expected back on post. The other said her senior demanded she do Lower Conditions plus amends for allowing herself to get pregnant. I see birth control pills on the counter to be given to Sea Org Members to block pregnancies.


    Read Claire Headley's new post on her story of her 1st abortion


    Here is her posting, quite a read
    http://www.breakingfromscientology.com/on-forced-abortions-part-2/
     
  2. Markus

    Markus Silver Meritorious Patron

    I'm getting to a point in where it is getting very tough for me to read stories like this. It is getting too emotional for me. We always tried to stay in contact with my brother Uwe while he was working at the Int. Base and I remember one conversation with him when I was full of joy because of my wonderfull sweet daughters and I asked him if he will be a father soon too. Very sad Uwe told me that it is not possible for him to have children. Totally shocked I asked him why and was not able to find out the reason - not in that conversation and never ever after.
     
  3. onthepes

    onthepes Patron with Honors


    I consider you a true saint, Karen. After what you have been through, you show enormous compassion. I am still searching for that myself and I am in awe. Also the picture of the Headley family is truly beautiful.
     
  4. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    fuck osa
     
  5. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    When deeply involved in Scientology, drinking the Koolaid and being a good toeing-the-line Scientologist, there are 3 major FEARS

    1 A fear of being connected to SPs,
    2 A fear of becoming an SP
    3 A fear of being declared an SP.

    Incredulously, many believers in the flock are whipped into obedience with these fears hanging over them in a meaningful way !

    I have posted some grim posts on this thread, but want to lighten it up here.

    PLEASE LAUGH WITH ME...
    and I want to be flippant and cover once again the TYPES of SP "Suppressive Person" because it is good for a laugh.


    PART ONE

    We can all use a laugh now and again.

    In the never - never land of the "Church" of Scientology the Word "SP" has taken on "a whole new meaning"
    and whole new sub-divisions.

    This has slowly occurred over the last 2 decades. There is no textbook policy on any of this it is just "made up" by the Church as Time Marches on......

    FLIP-FLOP SPs. These are Suppressive persons, who the Church want back in the Church. Highly Embarrassed that their Top echelon RTC ("Religious Technology Center") staff members have fled to join M & M, the Church sent out "Missions" to recover them. Namely Hansuili Stahli, Marion Pouw and Mike Sutter. Now, for anyone who renounces M & M ~~ BAM they can be UNDECLARED and in a matter of hours a Suppressive person can become an UN-SUPPRESSIVE PERSON. :omg:

    TAME SPs. These are people who have been declared SP, run to do their A to E steps and even give the CHURCH Money $$$$ to get back in good standing !

    They even do spying for OSA as "amends" They do not talk to Bitter Defrocked Apostates, or other SPs, they keep their nose clean and pray on bended knee that they will get their eligibility to become advanced Spiritual Beings !

    INT BASE SPs. As far back as the issued of "Blown for a Good" Marc Headley a few years ago revealed how most of Senior Management at INT Base had been declared SPs. They cannot leave the base. Most of them cannot leave SP hole, they are doing massive "Amends" programs for their wicked evil deeds against David Miscavige! Even though they are "SPs", they may not communicate with other SPs.

    BOARDERLINE SPs A Boarderline Sp is one who is REFUSING to give new money to the Church, refusing to buy more books, Cds, refusing to attend more INT events and IAS events. They sometimes furtively read the Internet and read all these stories and do not confess and sometimes furtively pick up the phone and call someone like me. This is Boarderline SP !

    VERBAL SPs These SPs are so confidential that it is a secretly disclosed at the Ethics Office, sometimes, nothing is shown in writing. The
    Ethics officer" says "so and so is an SP," "so and so has gone over to the dark side" "so and so has been in touch with squirrels and apostates" "so and so is disaffected and reading the internet" 'so and so is refusing to un-friend these ex-scientologists on Facebook" so now they are verbally declared "SP."

    OVERNIGHT SP I made this up and it caught on fast when I posted it.... After serving in the Church for decades, yes, with slave labor, almost no pay, no day off, and enduring all the punishments etc. the Church who apparently with all their advanced spiritual qualities , could not even *DETECT* an SP,
    SUDDENLY
    *OVERNIGHT*
    determines that someone who was in the flock for the previous 25-50 years was a Suppressive Person all along !!!!!!

    ~~~To be Continued


    :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
     
  6. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    Hilarious and so true.

    How about, like Tory just posted,

    The Dedicated Accidental SP - The endless giver that becomes so "PTS" to the cult that he/she does something horrible like fall in a construction hole or get cancer. How dare they? So embarrassing. :no:
     
  7. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    DEFINITIONS OF SUPPRESSIVE PERSON ~~ Part 2.

    Requirements : YOU MUST LAUGH WITH ME :yes::whistling::whistling::whistling:


    :yes::yes:

    The declare of "Suppressive Person" has been nothing but a "TOOL" ~~ a political tool to label a disaffected person or a whistle blower so as to separate connection between 2 people so that the wisened up person is unable to reveal to the dupe what is really going on.
    It is meaningless as a label, but it does keep a certain amount of Kool-aid drinkers toeing the line.

    A huge number of people watched the Alexander Jentzsch enforced disconnection from me and saw to what lengths the "Church" would go to separate a mother and son...even in death, denying a last look before cremation.

    This is "Church" performance against a so-called "Suppressive Person" SP.

    Let's Continue.

    GOOD SP Good SPs keep it all "under the radar". They are not doing the A to E steps, but they are not speaking out either. If they post on the Boards, they do it anonymously. Overall, they do not make waves, do not talk to the media, and are nice and sweet. No combativeness on the Church, they do not ask for refunds even of unused pre-paid "donations."

    BAD SP These are troublemakers ! They post on the boards and blogs overtly using their own names....They talk to media. They reveal the abuses and atrocities. They influence others. They get deluged with Emails from those "on the fence' and "under the radar". They are a continuous headache for the "good repute" of Scientology Inc.

    PROVISIONAL SPS
    This is a relatively new invention of Radical Scientology Inc. It means You are already a Suppressive person, but it will not be broadcast if you toe the line and abide by the behaviour modification. And if you dare not be "good" voila ! the declaration of your Suppressive Person status will become more widespread. So you see, it is not a matter of whether you are, or not a suppressive person, it is merely a political tool, and the degree of broadcast of your SP declare is used as a threat to keep you in line !

    NEGOTIABLE SP This is a marketable commodity based on money. Does money $$$$ make you a Suppressive person or a non-suppressive person ? For Years and Years at "Int events" the flock were told how bad, evil, predatory the IRS was. The IRS was the devil incarnate. No one screamed the "Church" had sunk to depths of SPness as the IRS !
    So how did the IRS flip from being a Deep SP to a good *FRIENDLY* agency ?

    $$$$$$$$ Baby, $$$$$$ Show me the money !!!
    501C3 Tax exemption makes a deep SP enemy Government Agency NO LONGER an SP. Overnight. Just like that !
    Does Money $$$$$ make you SP or not SP ????

    a LARGE BIG BIG DONATION CAN UN-SP you in a New York Minute ! Giving a bunch of loot to the coffers means you were :::ahem:::not SP after all !
    :yes::confused2::confused2::confused2::confused2:

    [​IMG]

    There was a time when SPs were mostly EXTERNAL. Out there. Psychiatry, Psychology, The World Bankers, the Rockerfellers, the Freemasons, the Vatican, the media, the press, CBS, 60 minutes, ABC TV, NBC TV, the FBI, the IRS, the AMA, the Governments of the world, especially Germany, Eli Lilli and all the pharmaceutical companies, journalists and authors that wrote books and articles on Scientology, Intelligence agencies of the world, and on and on.
    But DM’s Cult in recent decades has indeed turned inward.

    The new breed of SPs are Long term ex staff members, Sea Org members, Veterans. Especially those who have served decades.
    Especially those who have worked for peanuts with SLEEP DEPRIVATION and hard labor.
    Especially those who have been punched, beaten and assaulted by Miscavige.

    Only a year and a half ago ago Miscavige told John Brousseau (escapee) how GOLD staff up there were a bunch of worthless criminals not worthy of the food they were given or the bed they had to lie on.

    True story.

    Ahhhhhhh the World of the “Church” of Scientology. Truth is stranger than fiction.
    You can’t make this stuff up. :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

    Acknowledgement to my dear Friend Jeff Hawkins who originally toyed with
    the various Types of SP and had me laughing out loud as we talked on the phone of the various
    Suppressive Person definitions..
    .
     
  8. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    PART 3
    Someone asked me, "What is the SP Status of someone who is a critic on the web, who has not been in Scientology ? ~~ the answer is ~~




    INTERNET SPs I even heard the "Church" use the term INTERNET PSYCHOS believe it or not. Internet SPs are those that know nothing about the "Church" and are just (from Church viewpoint) hatemongers who attack good forces, good religions because they have nothing better to do. (Church Definition)

    Also there is

    AMBUSHED SPs A good friend of mine was at a Home Owners Association and because her condo was in a building of Scientologists, the local DSA (OSA rep pounced) and distributed her SP declare to the entire Home Owner's Association members so everybody got a copy of the SP declare at once ! She had been in the church 20+ years ! Her SP declare was planned. Another recent exit of the Church was a girl who flip flopped back and forth and thought OSA was befriending her. She thought of going back into the Church. While OSA got all the intelligence they wanted out of her, they then handed her a declare !

    DEGRADED BEING SPs These are "squirrels". They are doing Scientology outside the Church ! The Church is not getting a cut of the revenue $$$$ and the Church is incensed claiming trademark as if they were Coca Cola !
    Literally wanting the world to believe you can trademark BELIEFS. The "squirrel" supposedly alters the original text but the real anger is the loss of revenue the "Church" feels its entitled to....


    WIMPY SP
    A Wimpy SP is a jellyfish. From the Sea Org viewpoint, has no SPINE.
    Too fainthearted for the RPF and RPF's RPF gulags, disconnection, the sadism, the beatings, the sleep deprivation, the physical and mental abuse, the WIMPY SP asks to leave the Sea Org, thus causing all HELL to Break LOOSE. In a culture where you are 100% in or 100% out, by asking to depart the most elite ethical beings on the planet, you are 100% OUT ~~which to the remainder of the flock means the departee has ENEMY thoughts, ENEMY plans, possible sedition, possible infiltration, perhaps even wilfully speaking about wanting to leave which is in any case an automatic SP declare.

    Remember when a WIMPY SP flees, a posse of Sea org Members do BLOW DRILL to bring the fleeing SP back in the fold !!!
    Incredulously the escapee must be pursued and brought back contaminating all the non-SPs who did not blow...How can this be. Helluva Hoax help out please..:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
     
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  9. Opter

    Opter Silver Meritorious Patron

    Oh Karen


    Your descriptions of the type of SPs are very funny, yet it is also very sad at the same time because of its insanity ( on behalf of Scientology ).


    Keep posting you are a treasure.


    Opter
     
  10. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    How Did Miscavige assume Power ~ Part 5


    On the evening of January 27th L Rom Hubbard died. The announcement was made at the Hollywood Palladium and Pat Broeker was seen for the first time in years by Sea Org and Public.

    [​IMG]

    He took center stage giving little anecdotes of this and that. It sounded like Hubbard had passed the baton to him and his wife Annie

    Above is how he looked at the event addressing the crowd.

    After Hubbard's death, . We were all given an issue to read. This is what it said.
    [​IMG]

    Shortly after we were all asked to donate $15 or $20 to Pat Broeker's Birthday present. Apparently he loved flying. The gift was to be for a set of flying lessons, and the gift (which amount to several thousand dollars) ~~ some 5000 Sea Org members donating $20 each...It was a kind of "mandatory" donation, the order came from the TOP of the Org Board.

    The first inkling I had that something had gone wrong was when it was announced (only some 2 weeks later!) that we were all being re-funded our $20 Birthday donation for Broeker. A refund of a Birthday donation ? I had lived through numerous purges and changing of the guard with ruthless psycho-dramas and I had a gut feeling one of those was on the horizon.....

    Every single person who still had a copy of the above "Flag Order 3879" was hounded down to "give it up". All copies were to be burned and shredded !

    It was all fantasy and all made up Miscagive announced in various ways......this was not a Hubbard writing at all. It was penned by Broeker. It was completely cancelled as fantasy !

    Barely a few short years previously the "Guardian's Office" had been purged as "a bunch of crims" (Criminals) and Mission Network likewise, "a bunch of egregious money grabbing thieves" and now the "senior Messenger Pat Broeker" it was rumoured was a grand larceny and theft merchant, buying horses galore, and his head was about to roll.......

    Well ~~ it Just another coup.
    Just another Purge.
    Just another bloodbath in the mentality of power and paranoid cosmic
    psycho-politics in the "Church" of Scientology.


    I liked Pat Broeker. I liked it when the Private Investigators who had followed him gave a report on his goodness after following him for a quarter of a century.
    Read more
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/article1254129.ece

    Here's a younger Pat Broeker. This is how he looked when I audited him on the Flag Ship Apollo on his "Leaving sec Check" for his Annual Leave. In those days, you had a 10 question "sec check" before you left the ship for 3 week annual leave. It occurred a week before we crossed the Atlantic.
    [​IMG]

    ~~~ to be continued NEXT POST.
    How the coup actually went down.


     
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  11. R2-D45

    R2-D45 Patron

    I was just watching that Tampa Bay Times piece on Pat Broeker and saw the bit where Karen Pouw says that COB has lead the church "to an entirely new level" of global growth and expansion generating "overwhelming interest in the religion today."

    Technically, that's all totally true. Shrinkage can be easily thought of as negative-growth, and it's a whole new level of shrinkage happening today because of COB. Also, scandal after scandal and repeated media inquiries into COB's behavior is generating overwhelming (and not in a positive way) interest in the religion today.
     
  12. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free


    Yes, and this is eloquently shown in the video on this thread: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?28906-Scientology-on-Gruen-Planet-tonight
     
  13. R2-D45

    R2-D45 Patron

    "Get somebody at 1.1 that tells you, "You know, I'm all in favor of having a board of standards. We've got to have standards because this has got to be an ethical operation. I am very ethical! I won't stand for anything unethical!" He may talk like that (and a lot of 1.1s do), but if you look up some of his manifestations and you see that these manifestations pin him at 1.1, watch out! I don't care how often this person says that he is ethical, this person will cut your throat." - L. Ron Hubbard, lecture 21 May 1951—Theta-MEST Theory, Part II (The Science of Survival lectures)
     
  14. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    A former Staff MAA that I have been in touch with, informed me of a pretty horrific punishment, a new breed of sadism in the Sea Org. He exited 2 years ago, after being one of the "Staff MAAs" or "Ethics Officers" of the Sea Organization at the Flag Land Base.

    The Sand Castle abuts the ocean and there is a wall against the side.
    See this image~~

    [​IMG]

    The Sandcastle is a property owned by "Church of Scientology Flag Service org" and the picture above is the Restaurant.
    When a surface is on the ocean, eventually crustaceans, barnacles, sea animals cling to it, like they do on a ship. (These are cleaned off when the ship is in DRY DOCK for maintenance.)

    So a new punishment was developed.
    The Sea org member was forced to clean off the Sea Wall at HIGH TIDE.
    That means the waves were slapping and thrashing at the Sea Org Member while he held on to the wall to do this cleaning detail.

    In this instance something went very wrong and the Sea org member had a very serious mishap and almost died.
    An Almost DEATH mid a Sea Org punishment !

    This is the kind of story not told with the glossy window dressing posters !


    [​IMG]
     
  15. Mark A. Baker

    Mark A. Baker Sponsor

    You are right, Karen, that is unbelievably dangerous as well as incredibly stupid an activity. Who ever has authorized it's use as an acceptable practice by the church is unquestionably guilty of some form of criminal negligence, leaving open the possibility of criminal charges.

    If it hasn't been, it should be reported to local authorities so they can be on the lookout for future such violations of public safety. Also, despite the church's religious character it might be subject to OSHA review, although the effectiveness of OSHA at ensuring workplace safety has unfortunately largely been intentionally gutted by republican political obstructionism.


    Mark A. Baker
     
  16. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on



    BEFORE SALVAGING. . .

    [​IMG]



    AFTER SALVAGING. . .


    [​IMG]
     
  17. Sindy

    Sindy Crusader

    HEY!!! This salvaging business ain't pri-tay!!
     
  18. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    I am guessing that it must be some kind of sheer coincidence that both the Scientology SALVAGERS and the fortunate souls they SALVAGED both likewise end up tragically disenfranchised, dispirited, disconnected, depressed or dead.

    They must be salvaging another sector, not this one. I'm sure the people in that sector are really winning!
     
  19. Karen#1

    Karen#1 Gold Meritorious Patron

    The "Church" of Scientology ~~ A Sociopathic "church" with a Sociopathic Leader ~~ David Miscavige who commits crimes in real time.


    PART ONE

    I think I can state very clearly and articulately what makes Scientology Inc different from any other religion.

    1) It has no conscience. NONE. It does not recognize when it commits atrocities and abuse. It has no feeling of regret, or shame, and never ever apologizes. It does occasionally BLAME a former staff member, now departed, as the SP that did such and such, but it has zero remorse for splitting up families, acting out on sadistic punishments of highly controlled behavior modification such as the RPF and RPF's RPF. It does not care that it has caused families to declare bankruptcy by stealing every last dollar it can in extra mortgages for frantic "world emergencies" while it stockpiles money on other people's foreclosures. This occurs on every continent. It has no conscience that it makes wild anonymous phone calls to Law Enforcement to "set up" its enemies, that it uses Intelligence in dark and devious ways, that it has an URGE to DESTROY its perceived enemies and "shudder them into silence" ~or So they think :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

    2) While other Religions often try to make a person MORE aware of their CONSCIENCE, the "Church" of Scientology uses a whip to control, dominate, make wrong and harm its publics while masquerading as a Church. It pretends technology to handle sins and transgressions but actually monetizes and weaponizes this for political and intelligence purposes. The weapons of MASS SEDUCTION where the "Church" gets all the revenue and you end up enslaved as a
    "Scientologist in good standing" who cannot think for yourself, cannot befriend who you want, cannot talk to or connect with family if the Church says you cannot and end up as a miserable mind controlled victim.

    [​IMG]
    3) Scientology Inc is completely free of any internal restraints to do as it pleases if it is "the greatest good" for the Church's survival. This is a strange advantage over others who do have a conscience. The "Church" lives to indoctrinate that if you think anything negative about the "Church" ~~ why ~~ it is YOU that are full of Black Propaganda, Enemy Lines, Critically and natter = YOU the thinker, must have CRIMES !

    This no-conscience whatsoever on the outcomes they create trickles right down to NO REFUNDS of unused money they are holding on account. NO refunds of service and hours even when they greatly mess up that counseling which can cost as much as $800 to $1000 an hour. The new trick is to SP declare you when you ask for refund, and then say you are not eligible to do the Refund Request Routing Form (per policy) because you are already a Declared Suppressive Person !

    In most large companies, entities, corporations, services, if the service given is very bad or negligible or even harmful, an entity with a CONSCIENCE would offer a refund, or a re-do of what what messed up. But not the "Church". You pay in a new unit of time to REPAIR what the "CHURCH" messed up in the first place !

    The "Church" of Scientology craves money and power over its flock (but above all money) pursuing political communication lines and opinion leaders but does not have a nagging conscience that normal people have which would prevent them from doing anything and everything to succeed even when it greatly harms others.

    HUMAN TRAFFICKING

    In a mockery that boggles the mind, the "Church" pretends a concern for Human Trafficking ~~ see here
    [​IMG]
    In actuality, from Email I have received, every 45 minutes some Sea org member licks bathroom floors
    or goes to the RPF's RPF
    or is beaten, punched, slapped, decked,
    or is made to suffer sleep deprivation
    or is deprived of pay/salary while made to work 80-100 hours for the week
    with no escape, (confiscation of passport, Security guards all around, no money to flee)
    goes to the RPF's RPF
    with no escape, (confiscation of passport, Security guards all around, no money to flee)
    Americans and US citizens are getting wise to the ABUSE and the new generation of Sea Org Members are mostly from Eastern European countries and Latin American countries.
    OSHA is invisible. (Office of Safety Hazard).
    The Sea Org live like sardines stacked up in illegal overcrowded dormitories while labor is sucked out of them for cents per hour.


    Scientology Inc considers itself unassailable, unimaginably globally successful.
    Why not ?
    It has no conscience to rein in its schemes. It believes it can do ANYTHING AT ALL ~~ ABOVE THE LAW
     
  20. sallydannce

    sallydannce Gold Meritorious Patron

    Bravo Karen, bravo! :clap::clap::clap:

    The cult of spiritual seduction! The cult of no conscience!

    For you Karen:

    :rose::rose::rose: