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Thank you Hatshepsut!

I'll start with this one!

(Now everyone can go back to serious work!)

WOW!

You iz healthy :unsure:

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I gotta get to bed. Mom wants her computer room back by 6:00 a.m. sharp.

Night everybody. Thanks for playing. Night David :clap:
 
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Obviously ....... I think the kiwi would've been even better! Kiwis are unique and precious - and there's not enough of them - and everybody loves them.
 
Thank you Hatshepsut!

I'll start with this one!

(Now everyone can go back to serious work!)

Dear David,

For your info, a LOT of the people "gagged" do "talk" but obviously privately, as you already know.

AND, if you have not heard, Lawrence Wright of the New Yorker, who did the Paul Haggis piece which summarized the recent years controversies of ongoing Scientology history, Lawrence Wright intends and is longer range researching for a book at present.

Thus, anyone of serious note in Scientology history WILL have a chance, off the record, or on, to help piece the whole picture together.

Lawrence Wright is the best writer, I believe, in the last couple decades, to take on Scientology.

I network anyone to anyone who wants to be networked, and any of the ex RTC, ex CMO Int, ex Guardian's Office, people with lots of history memories, I'll gladly network people to Lawrence Wright.

Suggest people read that New Yorker article again, to see what kind of quality writer is currently now undertaking a longer range book on Scientology.

There is SO MUCH history details now on the chat sites these last 10 years 15 years, I encourage everyone of note to write their own personal memoirs, like Nancy Many did, like Jeff Hawkins did, like Marc Headley did.

I'd like to see some of the bigger ex cheezes be interviewed by serious good writers like Lawrence Wright, if those bigger cheezes are not themselves going to do their own writing!

[email protected]
412-260-1170
 
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Obviously ....... I think the kiwi would've been even better! Kiwis are unique and precious - and there's not enough of them - and everybody loves them.

Kiwi bird is cute Kutta. But for now, my chubby squirrel was chosen. Woo hoo..

:woohoo:

:heartflower: Thankyou David.
 
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Ideology: '... set out enforce it on other people ...'

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Well, it takes an ideology - not just a "religion", for good people to do bad things. For example, take the ideologies of Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany. People can be encouraged to do really nasty things in the name of some set of BELIEFS - religious or otherwise.

Religion holds no monopoly on the bad actions seemingly "good people" can take to bring about some crazy version of an idealized "better world".

People who grasp onto some ideology and then set out to enforce it on all other people are the basic culprits, with religion and Scientology existing only as an EXAMPLE and subset of that much larger human tendency. end quote

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There were lots of similarities between the communist regime and Co$ - the communists did not acknowledge or allow religion, and thus they promoted the cult of anti-religion....
which, in many ways, was like other cults....

Marina

Marina,
You are brilliant. You have opened my eyes in your statement above, especially the part that I took the liberty of putting into bold.

Having experienced ill will and ill treatment from more than one religion during my life, I finally became utterly jaundiced against them. Of course there are evil belief systems but even for those belief systems that are not so negatively inclined, the harm happens when someone sets out to enforce their ideas, beliefs or opinions on other people.

Others have posted similarly enlightening comments on this thread, too and I thank them for their clarifications. I bow to your having "put the icing on the cake" for me,

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kiwi

Obviously ....... I think the kiwi would've been even better! Kiwis are unique and precious - and there's not enough of them - and everybody loves them.

Sorry Kutta. But Avatars come and avatars go. Guess what my next one will be?
 
Marina,
You are brilliant. You have opened my eyes in your statement above, especially the part that I took the liberty of putting into bold.

Having experienced ill will and ill treatment from more than one religion during my life, I finally became utterly jaundiced against them. Of course there are evil belief systems but even for those belief systems that are not so negatively inclined, the harm happens when someone sets out to enforce their ideas, beliefs or opinions on other people.

Others have posted similarly enlightening comments on this thread, too and I thank them for their clarifications. I bow to your having "put the icing on the cake" for me,

D

Implanting is the game.
 
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Dear David,
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Suggest people read that New Yorker article again, to see what kind of quality writer is currently now undertaking a longer range book on Scientology.
...

[email protected]
412-260-1170

Good to hear from you Chuck. Yes, I did read his article in the New Yorker and as you say he s an excellent journalist and writer.

AFAIK, I don't think I will participate for the obvious reason. However, I wish well upon those who will do so.

I also hope that the very few who may have strayed even a little from the truth in other statements/publications will take it upon themselves not only to be sure of their rightness in their own mind but also to verify, nay even exhaustively verify, their data before submitting such for inclusion.

For the sake of any who could be hurt, I make my plea. I sympathize and I know full well the depth of emotional hurt and sometimes real danger that factual discrepancies can cause --especially when such are published and will forever remain on the World Wide Web.

(Lest I create a wrong impression, nothing I have said above is intended or directed toward Chuck. I have read and admired many postings and articles of his.)

Keep up the good work, Chuck!

D
 
Marina,
You are brilliant. You have opened my eyes in your statement above, especially the part that I took the liberty of putting into bold.

Having experienced ill will and ill treatment from more than one religion during my life, I finally became utterly jaundiced against them. Of course there are evil belief systems but even for those belief systems that are not so negatively inclined, the harm happens when someone sets out to enforce their ideas, beliefs or opinions on other people.

Others have posted similarly enlightening comments on this thread, too and I thank them for their clarifications. I bow to your having "put the icing on the cake" for me,

D

Not anything I expect you to comment upon ....

ARC/X: CDEI? :coolwink:


Mark A. Baker :p
 
Fellbridge etc

How about a current photo of you with some orchids? I would like that, assuming you have some.

Paul

I don't have any orchids now.:no:

In the meantime, I grow old n grey, waiting for your next response to my last reply to your question about that day in the Fellbridge. :bigcry: So much so that ... oh no, now I don't even know who I really am. Ooops, almost put my foot in it there. For a moment I forgot that I'm "two fire ladder lengths below" that condition:omg:
 
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(Lest I create a wrong impression, nothing I have said above is intended or directed toward Chuck. I have read and admired many postings and articles of his.)

Keep up the good work, Chuck!

D

Whoa :D

You must've been lurking some before joining us here on ESMB, ay? :happydance:

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