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Commander Birdsong said:
yeah i remember you occaisionly giving my a little rap on the thetan knuckles for being less totally elron back then, which was just fine. and if you were then far to the right of me then on the subject. you're far to the left of me now

and yet...

you haven't changed a bit; you're just same high flyin' extremely extreme extremist you always were...


just by the way...

thanx for coming up with the concept of BPC. as i recently mentioned on another thread, in '93 i showed up for my stepfather who was dying of cancer and gave him some substantial relief by reason of my understanding of BPC...
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I've changed so much as to be unrecognizable. And very no, I am quite unextreme. Beings like me are in the vast, vast majority in and about the universe.
 
Dakota River said:
I am continually impressed with Arnie's posts. He is a master at exposing the myths of scifaggorty. I like exposing myths. I have been jokingly saying for years that the writers of those religions that come out of that desert over there east of Egypt now work for Marvel Comics.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120326164247AAGQ1ze
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And, thus, Son of God Comics, courtesy of our old friends at National Lampoon:

http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/417/index.html
 
Dakota River said:
I've changed so much as to be unrecognizable. And very no, I am quite unextreme. Beings like me are in the vast, vast majority in and about the universe.
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"extremely extreme extremist" are your own words published here on esmb

and you could get a sex change and paint yourself a color not found in the visible spectrum and you'd still be the remarkable and compelling unique soul you are...
 
Lermanet_com said:
In 1996 I was doing a radio show, a real one, not an internet one, that was playing on AM talk radio and I was talking about Quentin Hubbard's coroner report. A caller called in, said he had been doing something in the garage and had left the car radio playing, and heard me talking about Quentin's death.. He said and seemed to stress that Mary Sue (Not "Ron") had hired him to investigate Quentin's supposed suicide. He said that there was a hose going from the exhaust into the passenger window. And that footprints and the tire tracks had been brushed away out of the desert sand. He also said that a carpet was found in the trunk and that this carpet had hairs from Quentin in it, as if he had been transported to the car rolled up in the carpet... (Rolling up a body in a carpet is a handy way to transport a body in broad daylight). The caller said his name was Joe Lisa.


20 years later I found some more input from Joe Lisa on some youtube comments about a video titled: Bruce McGregor Davis surrenders & arrest 12/02/1970

Joe Lisa:
"You know Bruce Davis? You should feel lucky that you didn't end up dead in some downtown alley with 50 + knife wounds. I don't suppose he told you what he did with the bodys of Cindy Mellin, Robin Graham or Donna Lass, did he? Is there any way you could post that letter you reference or email ..."

Joe Lisa:
"Bruce Davis expalins how Shorty was Killed and his non- involvement (Charles Manson Family)"

Joe Lisa:
"It wasnt his mother or his sister or Manson who told him to surrender. It was Mary Sue Hubbard and Jane Kember - the GO - who ordered him to turn himself in. They knew the investigation would eventually reveal that Scientology was connected to the Zodiac killings, so when he went back to London after he killed Gaul and Sharp, Mary Sue & Jane told him to surrender. Anybody who tries to downplay Scientology's involvement in Manson & Zodiac killings is part of misinformation campaign."

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Arn't you all glad to have escaped $cientology alive? We are the lucky ones...
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i didn't learn of quentin's death until i read coryden in 2007. odd coincidence; he was found in the car 28 oct 76 the same day my son ian was born in boston

who are bruce davis, cindy mellin, robin graham, and donna lass?

as i understand it, semen was found in quentin's anus

also, another poster a while back said the person whose name i forget who "may or may not have been quentin's lover" was found murdered, i think in las vegas a couple years later in another unsolved case

personally i tend to be dubious of CoS hit men. after all, so many primary targets such as paulette cooper were never assasinated and other than quentin's potential lover i've never seen significant motive shown in any unsolved case...
 
Commander Birdsong said:
i didn't learn of quentin's death until i read coryden in 2007. odd coincidence; he was found in the car 28 oct 76 the same day my son ian was born in boston

who are bruce davis, cindy mellin, robin graham, and donna lass?

As i understand it, semen was found in quentin's anus.

also, another poster a while back said the person whose name i forget who "may or may not have been quentin's lover" was found murdered, i think in las vegas a couple years later in another unsolved case

personally i tend to be dubious of CoS hit men. after all, so many primary targets such as paulette cooper were never assasinated and other than quentin's potential lover i've never seen significant motive shown in any unsolved case...
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Homosexual rape anyone?

There was also alcohol, which he didn't use, and drugs, ditto. And he had apparently removed the car number plates and other ID and hidden them. Why?

He had just got away and none of this fits. Except in one way.

Admittedly the thugs hired by CoS are cheap and nasty, but they almost got Pauline Cooper, NOT a good example for you. There are dozens and perhaps hundreds of suspicious deaths and 'suicides' in Scientology circles, people drowning, falling out of buildings, car crashes, medical crises, mental breakdowns. The car-exhaust hose thing was used again for Sean Lonsdale, RIP, who almost made it just as Chanology was getting going. I am not dubious at all and never have been.
 
well SOG i don't know

in my own case both of the two major psychiatric episodes may have been at least partly induced by GO black dianetics and fairgaming...

but there are several other factors which were more certainly involved

numerous suspicious deaths have factors that indicate non- or anti-scn action

like the guy in vegas who went OTIII, thought he could use OT power to beat the house in the casinos, dropped a six digit figure at the tables and stormed into the org screaming that he wanted all his money back and hen his body is found in pieces in a bag

back in the day, not a week went by someone wasn't discovered buried in the desert with their hand sticking out holding five aces

his death has about 95% chance of being a "message pitch" from the casinos of the day
 
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Bald GO guy was still there when you arrived-wasn't he? Infinite valued logic my friend. The end justifies the means. Nice has no place in Scien-its about being effective.
 
Say hi to Lucy. She wants to howl for you. And she like rabbits too.

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He was before Duke Snyder. Though he did not have a lot of general staff contact, I thought he came around to all staff and personally check them out on a policy regarding legal threat being forwarded to him, the GO, for handling.
 
Commander Birdsong said:
"extremely extreme extremist" are your own words published here on esmb

and you could get a sex change and paint yourself a color not found in the visible spectrum and you'd still be the remarkable and compelling unique soul you are...
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I said that? Sheesh. I must be an extremely extreme extremist.
 
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